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waklu
post Dec 11 2012, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Dec 11 2012, 03:14 PM)
SO, u guys prefer:
1. DW fist that deals fast but lower average damages (300-800 damage), or
2. 2H skorn that deals super high damage but slow (900-1600), or
3. DW spear/mace/axe/etc that sits in between (500-1000)

That day cow and I was mentioned about this ingame, while I jelly on his shenlong fists, it couldn't convince me enough to get a pair to test water.

I know there are some Skorn users please give me your thought also...
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I can offer a few insight why "currently" I prefer the 2H Skorn.

1. Perfect weapon for Low MP para leveling/farming
2. Like the SSS with high dmg 2hander. Bell also viable.


If once I got bored of para levelling and decided to go for high MP, AND still prefer the Skorn then I will make a few tweak to items because:

1. Skorn is so fu*kin' slow. Need to get IAS items
2. Less headache to find BIS MH and OH

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post Dec 11 2012, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(waklu @ Dec 11 2012, 04:33 PM)
I can offer a few insight why "currently" I prefer the 2H Skorn.

1. Perfect weapon for Low MP para leveling/farming
2. Like the SSS with high dmg 2hander. Bell also viable.
If once I got bored of para levelling and decided to go for high MP, AND still prefer the Skorn then I will make a few tweak to items because:

1. Skorn is so fu*kin' slow. Need to get IAS items
2. Less headache to find BIS MH and OH

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Try Sever. The best weapon for lower MP for me.
Highest damage i've ever seen (with Sever) was 30million. laugh.gif

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post Dec 11 2012, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Dec 11 2012, 05:05 PM)
Try Sever. The best weapon for lower MP for me.
Highest damage i've ever seen (with Sever) was 30million.  laugh.gif
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+15-25% Damage to Demons
  Critical Hit Chance Increased by 1.0%
  Slain enemies rest in pieces.


Due to the 1st line or last? hmm.gif
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post Dec 11 2012, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Dec 11 2012, 05:09 PM)
Due to the 1st line or last?  hmm.gif
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slain enemies rest in pieces.

Awesome weapon for tempest rush.
MP0-3, millions and millions of damage on screen.
2% LS is more than enough. laugh.gif

P/S Sabenarian used this on his monk. He should know.

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post Dec 11 2012, 05:12 PM

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imnaked     11/26/2012
                           using this on my wd to play around. getting 15-24million execute crits, highest was well over 100million. it all depends on what skill you land for the last hit. critical hit damage makes this go WAY out of control.
                       


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Added on December 11, 2012, 5:13 pmgonna get a cheap one to have the millions damages fuul

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post Dec 11 2012, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Dec 11 2012, 05:05 PM)
Try Sever. The best weapon for lower MP for me.
Highest damage i've ever seen (with Sever) was 30million.  laugh.gif
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million???? how is that possible?
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post Dec 11 2012, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(Klawo @ Dec 11 2012, 05:17 PM)
million???? how is that possible?
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Try it... you never know. brows.gif

NOTE: This is only for low MP. For high MP, this weapon is not really effective (for me).

P/S Oh... it's time to sell my Sever.

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post Dec 11 2012, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Dec 11 2012, 05:22 PM)
Try it... you never know.  brows.gif

NOTE: This is only for low MP. For high MP, this weapon is not really effective (for me).

P/S Oh... it's time to sell my Sever.
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post Dec 11 2012, 05:28 PM

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This was the highest DPS Sever found at AH yesterday.
Let me know if anyone wanna get it.

Millions damage guaranteed. laugh.gif


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post Dec 11 2012, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Dec 11 2012, 05:22 PM)
Try it... you never know.  brows.gif

NOTE: This is only for low MP. For high MP, this weapon is not really effective (for me).

P/S Oh... it's time to sell my Sever.
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hmm.. yeah too bad ah close d lol. but puzzle whether it really does millions of damage

oh only kiling blow. watching youtube video of it.. lol

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post Dec 11 2012, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Dec 11 2012, 03:14 PM)
SO, u guys prefer:
1. DW fist that deals fast but lower average damages (300-800 damage), or
2. 2H skorn that deals super high damage but slow (900-1600), or
3. DW spear/mace/axe/etc that sits in between (500-1000)

That day cow and I was mentioned about this ingame, while I jelly on his shenlong fists, it couldn't convince me enough to get a pair to test water.

I know there are some Skorn users please give me your thought also...
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Tried the 2H (skorn) life, didn't care for it... too slow, not enough action...

At the Jedi Academy, they recommend all three options. Put in your inventory, use when you need it, especially for 7SS and Bell skill. Also good to 'buff' sweeping wind.

Personally, I always chose DW (although I was with sheild for a long time... back then when 1H was super expensive). Love to see continuous hits and fast actions. Fast first attack, with 2H, your first attacks is delayed. Fast to reach 3rd hit which proc with a number of things. With 2H, your LoH also not very effective. For high MP, I recommend using both LoH + LS.

To get the best from both options, I always aim for high damage Black weapon. My main hand is a fist with 549-1092 damage with no other attribute (cheaper).

Anyway, if you just want to test the ShenLong Relentless Assault, you can test mine.


Added on December 11, 2012, 5:37 pm
QUOTE(Klawo @ Dec 11 2012, 05:34 PM)
hmm.. yeah too bad ah close d lol. but puzzle whether it really does millions of damage

oh only kiling blow. watching youtube video of it.. lol
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it will really deal with millions on damage but that only happen on last hit. so, to use as LS, your main source prolly just from white mobs. you will run into troubles with elites which give you almost nil LS before it dies...



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QUOTE(Klawo @ Dec 11 2012, 05:34 PM)
hmm.. yeah too bad ah close d lol. but puzzle whether it really does millions of damage
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google it or see youtube.
I tested it. Yes, guaranteed millions of damage.

Note#1: You need high enough DPS where you can kill mobs in 1-2 hits. Well, most of us can do that in MP0-5.
Note#2: Killing mobs in 1-2 hits? That tells you you need to do low MP.
Note#3: Cow reminded me. You need LS to have life recovery. So, you go dual-wield.


Added on December 11, 2012, 5:40 pmUse Sever where you can one-blow mobs.
It is much better than Skorn in low MP, at least for me.

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post Dec 11 2012, 05:45 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Dec 11 2012, 05:37 PM)
google it or see youtube.
I tested  it. Yes, guaranteed millions of damage.

Note#1: You need high enough DPS where you can kill mobs in 1-2 hits. Well, most of us can do that in MP0-5.
Note#2: Killing mobs in 1-2 hits? That tells you you need to do low MP.
Note#3: Cow reminded me. You need LS to have life recovery. So, you go dual-wield.


Added on December 11, 2012, 5:40 pmUse Sever where you can one-blow mobs.
It is much better than Skorn in low MP, at least for me.
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i know why u wanna sell that sick Sever... u never really farm low MP anyway. laugh.gif

i always see u in MP10 sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif
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post Dec 11 2012, 05:45 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Dec 11 2012, 03:14 PM)
SO, u guys prefer:
1. DW fist that deals fast but lower average damages (300-800 damage), or
2. 2H skorn that deals super high damage but slow (900-1600), or
3. DW spear/mace/axe/etc that sits in between (500-1000)

That day cow and I was mentioned about this ingame, while I jelly on his shenlong fists, it couldn't convince me enough to get a pair to test water.

I know there are some Skorn users please give me your thought also...
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hmm.... i dont know of anyone who go high mp with skorn. but for me skorn for Tempest rush (mo0-1) only and dw for higher mp.
so yeah, everybody should have 2 sets imo

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Dec 11 2012, 05:45 PM)
i know why u wanna sell that sick Sever... u never really farm low MP anyway.  laugh.gif

i always see u in MP10  sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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Sell it because i can't do MP10 uber with it.
Normal mobs & elites are no problem though.
Not enough LS/LOH and life recovery is too slow if i use this Sever.
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post Dec 11 2012, 06:22 PM

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gonna take a look at my mule see if there is any sever around or not.

so, DW must go for fist? (for the sake of monk feel)
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post Dec 11 2012, 06:28 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Dec 11 2012, 06:22 PM)
gonna take a look at my mule see if there is any sever around or not.

so, DW must go for fist? (for the sake of monk feel)
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I think there should be rare Black fist weapon (>1k dps) with cd, os and either LoH or ls available, that's the best but costly.

Just several days ago, a 98x dps specimen with the above mentioned specs was listed in gAH @ Bid 350M and no buyout.

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post Dec 11 2012, 06:32 PM

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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Dec 11 2012, 06:28 PM)
I think there should be rare Black fist weapon (>1k dps) with cd, os and either LoH or ls available, that's the best but costly.

Just several days ago, a 98x dps specimen with the above mentioned specs was listed in gAH @ Bid 350M and no buyout.
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doesnt FOT thunderclap make the atk lighting so black weapon is irregardless?
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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Dec 11 2012, 06:28 PM)
I think there should be rare Black fist weapon (1k dps) with cd, os and either both LoH or and ls available, that's the best but costly.
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fixed for the real bestest fist


Added on December 11, 2012, 6:34 pm
QUOTE(Klawo @ Dec 11 2012, 06:32 PM)
doesnt FOT thunderclap make the atk lighting so black weapon is irregardless?
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7ss, on the other hand deals holy damages

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QUOTE(Klawo @ Dec 11 2012, 06:32 PM)
doesnt FOT thunderclap make the atk lighting so black weapon is irregardless?
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If SoJ with Add % to cold damage property is used in conjunction with a Black weapon while making attacks with FoT -TC then the slow effect will not take place at all.

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