@ M2K2LAND,
Amazing 220k DPS monk u have there.
@ sangtupperware
Wow, nice EHP. And nice site u have there for calculating.
Monk Discussion V3, guides, opinions and builds for Monk!
Monk Discussion V3, guides, opinions and builds for Monk!
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Oct 31 2012, 01:33 PM
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@ M2K2LAND,
Amazing 220k DPS monk u have there. @ sangtupperware Wow, nice EHP. And nice site u have there for calculating. |
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Oct 31 2012, 01:39 PM
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Oct 31 2012, 01:44 PM
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QUOTE(sangtupperware @ Oct 31 2012, 01:40 PM) Inna got better dex roll + CC + AR/VIT. But yeah witching is the best DPS belt out there.Added on October 31, 2012, 1:45 pm QUOTE(M2K2Land @ Oct 31 2012, 01:39 PM) Dont trust the website... is max buffed... my DPS only got 101k cant see ur damageThis is my real damage~ » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « This post has been edited by 2890: Oct 31 2012, 01:45 PM |
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Oct 31 2012, 01:54 PM
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QUOTE(sangtupperware @ Oct 31 2012, 01:48 PM) between im happy i havent sold my old belt n glove yet...i havent try this setup in group play...therefore if i have a hard time, i just change back to my 83K DPS unbuffed set-up...well i say a hard time cuz...im lacking in LOH n LS department..so high eHP is very very important to me... u have paragon 100 right? go roll a new char man.. Monk chapter can close already. =)last time with a 700k++ eHP...everything is simple....short story.. this time around i donno...just begging to myself plssss..let the char still can tank in MP8 above when fighting uber... and btw, i'm sure u can tank ubers on MP8 and above, i played with worst monk and they do fine. This post has been edited by 2890: Oct 31 2012, 01:54 PM |
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Oct 31 2012, 01:55 PM
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Oct 31 2012, 02:09 PM
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THe monk forums here are nice. Well organized and the majority of people here knows what they are saying/advising/doing.
in the DH forums, u see part time DH players coming in and giving misleading information. SAD. |
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Oct 31 2012, 02:35 PM
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I sell junk on RMAH to use the money to get gold to reinvest back into my DH. Seems like junk sells faster on the RMAH than GAH. I sold a 3mil WF for 4 GBP on the RMAH.
3GB = 9mil ish. |
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Oct 31 2012, 02:38 PM
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QUOTE(paranoid @ Oct 31 2012, 02:34 PM) heated discussions are good, i enjoy very detailed information shared during the discussion. but of course we dont expect to keep it in ur hearts. Well, sometimes is hard to have a heated discussion without offending the other person if u get what i mean. Or say a constructive discussion is also hard to come by here. monk wouldn't hv such a nice community if everyone argues all the time yuhhaur, ur monk somehow became my benchmark.. i was upgrading my monk recently. still lacking the other shenlong gloves and my inna chest.. waiting to see how much additional dps it can give me If one person provides facts and numbers to their argument and the other counters is by saying i've tested it, i play this so i know better or any ridiculous interpretation of their own the discussion is just gets annoying. p.s: don't intend to offend anyone here. |
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Oct 31 2012, 02:49 PM
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QUOTE(paranoid @ Oct 31 2012, 02:44 PM) does crit chance give more dps hike compared to IAS? I think that website d3up website gives you a value for your dex, 1 percent IAS, 1 percent CC and CD and so on. Check it out and find out.im a bit confused i stacked high dex (2.3k) with att speed (53% increase) but my dps cant go beyond even 60k yet. |
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Oct 31 2012, 03:06 PM
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QUOTE(sangtupperware @ Oct 31 2012, 02:58 PM) from my point of view after completing the 100K DPS challenge... But low IAS makes u crit left often and makes high CC and CD irrelevant.CC+CD> AIS.... why do i say this.. simple examples is my old bracer with CC 5 ....when i put back into my body (pull my lacuni bracer out)...i get back 3K more dmg then when im wearing my lacuni....... lacuni stats: 80 dex 70 vit 70 AR 8 AIS old bracer stats: 140 dex (not so much different in DPS i guess) 70 vit 73 AR 5 CC |
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Oct 31 2012, 03:17 PM
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QUOTE(sangtupperware @ Oct 31 2012, 03:10 PM) im not ignoring AIS completely though...u have to balance it referring to the formula CC+CD> AIS....heck i wont reach 100K DPS if i don have AIS in my arsenal... Yeah DPS wise CC and CD gives u a bigger boost. I prefer IAS and CC before CD. u have to get it all...but put a priority on certain stats first...thats what im trying to say.. @ Henry, how do u create a ring in that website? |
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Oct 31 2012, 03:36 PM
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Is this website accurate?
I had 374k EHP when i had my 180dex, 160 vit, 60 AR belt, 75 DEX 55 AR legacy NAT shoes, 57 DEX, 140 VIT, 6 percent life legacy chest. I made 3 upgrades. - inna's favor: 99 dex, 52 AR - NAT shoes: 199 DEX, 65 VIT, 77 AR - NAT armor: 96 DEX, 156 DEX, 7 DISC, 10 percent life by doing so, i loose 95 VIT, 8AR and gain 40 DEX. and guess what my EHP is now 215K. ARE YOU SERIOUS??? |
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Oct 31 2012, 03:40 PM
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Oct 31 2012, 04:02 PM
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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Oct 31 2012, 03:53 PM) Sturdy and solid nice monk, indeed. Your mempo IS VERY NICE!!!Added on October 31, 2012, 3:56 pm May I share with you my barb's specs from http://d3up.com/b/43551 Seems right to me! |
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Nov 17 2012, 04:00 AM
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QUOTE(gladfly @ Nov 17 2012, 03:29 AM) Yes ..it stacks.Loh stacks you can see fro the stats details. So is it safe to say that LOH sucks if it is in the 300-400 region?To answer the Q above as when LS makes more sense..well it depends on your crits. The more you crit at bigger dps, the more LS you get back..so it depends on how frequent can you crit. If you low crits..high dex..LS maynot be suitable as you dishing out say average 50-60k per hit...which translate to 300-400 life back only. Anyways, I need PC on an 1 hand Axe:- Stats 1028.7 DPS, +954 (max) LoH, 2.3% Lifesteal and OS. How much should it go for? AH prices are inconsistent ranging from 25M right up to 250M.. Here's my problem. I have two rings that i'm currently looking into beside NAT reflection. Unity with LOH on it and Litany with the AR on it. Both rings have 160 ish DEX, 4.5 CC, 8/9 IAS. Unity has the average damage but litany doesn't. Unity has 4 percent bonus against elites and litany has 7percent dmg reduction from elites. So here is my problem, the Unity gives me 7.8k DPS boost but the litany gives me 1.5k DPS boost. However, the litany gives me more AR (60-65 region) la and with it have around 470 ish with perfectionist. (i'm a DH). BUT.. i just can't convince myself to pay 100mil ++ and hating the LOH roll on the unity. and i also can't convince myself to pay for the 1.5k DPS boost from litany. I'm asking here in the MOnk threads because no DH here seems to be using LOH. Hope you monks can help me decide. Thanks. EDITED: How does LOH works on inferno? 300 means 300? Or does it work like LS? This post has been edited by 2890: Nov 17 2012, 04:04 AM |
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Nov 17 2012, 04:26 AM
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QUOTE(gladfly @ Nov 17 2012, 04:16 AM) Hey 2890...nice to see you here.. Hey thanks for the swift response gladfly.Well..to be honest..it depends what your LoH is for..as a complement to gloom or just as a side extra. To be effective as a life sustain factor LoH needs to be in big numbers...1.5k-2k. loH at Rings max at i think 450 which will never be enough. Look at it this way, the LoH is a complement to your life regen...treat it as that.I take the unity over the litany (but then you have a wailing ..so u miss the OMG MF/GF bonus) No 300 is not 300. LoH has proc rates which is determine by the skills runes...certain skill proc more. Eg Fist of Thunder+Thunderclap procs 150% of LoH for 2 hits and 75% on 3rd hit. Okay, now that u mention procs. I need to go find how bola shot procs with LOH. The skill says 160percent to main target and 110 to mobs within a 20 yard radius. And the way you put it just made Unity much more interesting. The LOH might be amazing. Currently, i have ZERO LOH ZERO LS. =D How is 300 LOH with procs a compliment to gloom? I don't think the LOH is going to make a big difference. The set bonus suck of legacy of wicked dreams suck =( So now, u suggested the Unity because LOH on Unity > AR on Litany? or cuz of the DPS increase? Thanks again!!! |
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Nov 17 2012, 04:32 AM
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Nov 17 2012, 04:25 AM) Are you going to use the ring on your DH? The thing is a LS manticore is CRAZILY EXPENSIVE AND LOW ON THE DPS scale (1k region). I know that the LOH just doesn't cut it for a DH.If yes, you don't need LOH. DH doesn't need LOH. Just get LS on your bow (i.e. Manticore) and spam Gloom. DH has very high damage per hit, 500K-800K is quite normal. With Bola & spike trap, you can hit multiple targets and dish out millions of damage (in total) in a second. I think you get a better answer at DH thread. Forget about LOH, you DH just doesn't need that. Do you have sufficient AR? If yes, pick the one that gives you the most DPS. So, for monk, it's a total different ball game. For my case, LOH is still quite important for me (112K DPS unbuff) in terms of survivability in high MP. I hope i could drop my LOH soon. P/S Monk has better life recovery from LOH because he has faster attack speed, generally. If you use 2 xbow, you don't see the fast life recovery. Unless you use 2 x 1H bow with 900+ LOH each. You said getting more DPS, well the Unity gives me the most DPS boost cuz the litany is a defensive ring. and u just said not to bother with LOH. So this is exactly what i'm confuse with. I have 400ish AR and hoping to get into the 450 region. Can't get an answer there cuz no one seems to be bothered about LOH and to some extent LS. I have 2.08 APS so i don't hit that slow. The way we DH recover life is pop Gloom and use Cluster Arrow. So this all comes back to square one again. LOH is useless for DH so the Unity kinda isn't that attractive but gives more DPS than litany. but litany gives AR. You get me? Thanks! Added on November 17, 2012, 4:33 am QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Nov 17 2012, 04:28 AM) Please PM me a snapshot of the axe. Thanks. yeah i know which is why i'm having a hard time deciding which ring.Added on November 17, 2012, 4:32 am Shadow power works like LS. This post has been edited by 2890: Nov 17 2012, 04:33 AM |
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Nov 17 2012, 04:36 AM
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Nov 17 2012, 04:46 AM
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Nov 17 2012, 04:40 AM) AR is more of defence for survival. Well the only ring that offers both is a reflection with AR on it and getting the 130 dex bonus. I'll go have a hard look at my build again.Do you have problem to survive in game? If you don't encounter any issue, your build is just good enough. In that case, I'd pick DPS. If you can't really survive in games, choosing AR could be the right move. So, you need to know what you need. Of course, if there is a ring that offers both DPS and AR (that you need), why not? Thanks for the insight. |
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