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paranoid
post Oct 12 2012, 02:48 PM

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i agree what is mentioned up there about barbs, ww barbs doesnt tank. all they do is spin around everywhere. that build only benefit himself/herself in coop games. it's not much of difference for them to solo or go in co-op games actually. only thing good u can get is the warcry. in most games they are always rushing and move to new pack, they dont care and bother if the mobs are cleared or not.
it's a good build to level fast, not a good build to play and actually help in coop games.
although there are actually good ww barbs also i've met, other than that mostly disappointing.
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post Oct 12 2012, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Oct 12 2012, 02:52 PM)
that is true in the sense that there is nothing to tank. dead mobs don't need tanking, aye?
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agree on that point, was so happy when barbs are just melting everything down as they go.
but in public games, very few barbs wipe down the mobs by just spinning around.
i have met strong ww barbs, and the truth is, they are already that strong, they farm so fast and by joining public games will only slow them down. most of them go solo only.

most ww barbs in coop games are only at average level. some dps class are fairly weak, having a ww barb doesn't really help in most cases. mobs run around and scatter the dps classes.
well, different players see it differently maybe.

for me,
standing tank > running tank
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post Oct 22 2012, 05:02 PM

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i tried a different build sometime ago, im currently able to solo and tank up to MP5 with minimal deaths.
in coop, if with good dps team it's fairly easy.

im a cylone tank monk. so i was able to benefit from my LoH coz i used to spam cylclone together with an aoe skill ~altho my LoH is not that high (1.2k) if higher dps i would go for life steal already.
serenity is a life saver. and also 'keen eye'. i find surviving is more important than killing fast since im a tank.
white mobs dont need keen eye, only elite encounters requires me to spam keen reach.

killed my dps for this build but it was worth it, heavy dpser love farming with me. killing is real quick because of the cyclone skill also.

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post Oct 22 2012, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Oct 22 2012, 05:06 PM)
Please share your build.
Give me your battletag, i'll add you.
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http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/yulia-6616/hero/2336994

btag: yulia#6616
paranoid
post Oct 23 2012, 04:25 PM

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everyone's dps is a bomb when i look at it.
oh my.. my monk still at 30k range.

what to improve? what to target for upgrade?
i've never buy gold, or spent on gears other than the gold i've farmed in game. am so dead poor T_T
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post Oct 23 2012, 04:49 PM

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hah, my crit dont think even 100k
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post Oct 23 2012, 05:16 PM

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wa im close.. just need more AR, my LoH at 1.2k but running only star gem only.. still can increase
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post Oct 24 2012, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Oct 24 2012, 10:55 AM)
Yulia, you did very well tanking the Siegebreaker in the uber boss fight.

I see your profile and find you have a little weird skill setup.
You use 2 primary skills. And you don't use passive skill, Combination Strike.

I wonder which is the primary skill you use most?
IMO, you can stick to one primary skill.
And replace another one with sweeping wind/blade storm, breath of heaven/blazing wrath, or wave of light.
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hahah thanks it was really a good run.

i had sweeping wind with one primary skill build earlier but i tend to die often in insane elite encounters, because of my habit i tend to pull all mobs into me while tanking it's quite painful since my LoH is only at 1.2k+-
i love crippling wave for the aoe dmg, but i stil couldn't facetank bosses/elite alone with that skill even with the LoH. so in such situation i spam deadly reach (keen eye) every 4seconds to buff up my armor by another 50%, dps again and repeat sweat.gif sweat.gif
probably i dont really use that frequently i ought the passive does not really come into the picture, since i hve only about 35k life ~.~ will try that passive n see if it's good anyway
i been wanting to kill off this skill but have to wait for more dps upgrade maybe? or add in some awesome lifesteal fist.

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post Oct 24 2012, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(present me @ Oct 24 2012, 11:59 AM)
Yulia slowly build ur gear, u r really tank well i was saw u any possible u was atk, anyway as long wht u get yesterday nite, so v roll again....
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thanks happy.gif not bad for my first hellfire ring altho could be better.
working on improving my dps slowly.
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post Oct 29 2012, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(HenryLow @ Oct 29 2012, 10:25 AM)
shifu sekalian, my new update: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/HenryLo...52/hero/4553853

but still tofu in MP1 Inferno... i am sadding... sad.gif
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hahaha yea
my noob monk also can go up to mp6-7

maybe ur build more offensive, my build is a bit defensive. eh but ur LoH not bad lei


Added on October 29, 2012, 10:45 ami can tahan arcane but not like 3-4 arcane at once. desecrator i sure avoid also..
ur monk should be better than mine leh

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post Oct 29 2012, 10:49 AM

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oh ya i died alot i change all my gear to fix my AR. then only concentrate IAS+DEX

my helm, ammy, bracer n rings still very noob.
arcane as long as i dont stand on the pivot point, can tahan..
i also tipu wan.. when arcane come close i spam deadly reach skill (keen eye rune) so not that pain..

7ss is a must have for me also.. can use to escape if locked by mobs, and when u cast 7ss, u're invisible to damage.
i rotate 7ss and serenity when im in a pinch.

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post Oct 29 2012, 10:57 AM

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guys/girls,
how much do u think i need to invest (in gold) to upgrade my monk?
to decent state, not godly state..


Added on October 29, 2012, 10:59 am
QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Oct 29 2012, 10:56 AM)
If you play co-op, you can use MoH/Time of Need + Guiding light combo. It's very good in both offensive (16% additional damage) and defensive (AR bonus).

As you use 2 primary skills, combination strike could be your best passive skill.
You must be busy spamming your deadly reach.  tongue.gif
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yeap i took that advice of urs, i changed my passive to combination strike.. not sure if that is the cause i died on SB ytd or it's with the lag issue.
desperately need to upgrade my monk

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post Oct 29 2012, 11:12 AM

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my monk lacks dps and a bit more defence to be able to go mp8-mp9 comfortably. that is somewhere i want my monk to achieve.

probably spending like up to 300-400mill is understandable.
by godly i mean i dont hope to upgrade a piece of gear which cost 300mill each.
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post Oct 29 2012, 11:24 AM

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noted, should i aim for Inna's set?
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post Oct 29 2012, 11:37 AM

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my aim is a tanking monk with good dps.
i can see many monks with high dps but they are as fragile as any other DH/Wiz when it comes to high MP elites. those are dps monks which dont tank all all.
i want my monk to be able to tank first, and then dps it up as high as it can be.
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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Oct 29 2012, 11:47 AM)
then try to work out :
6k armor+600AR, LoH 2k+LS 3% @ 50k dps aim
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so i see main problem is AR and the life steal
i've tried to stack as much IAS but the dps doesn't really go beyond 40k unbuffed.
im guessing next upgrade is CC%

QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Oct 29 2012, 11:48 AM)
considering this:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/yulia-6616/hero/2336994

why the contradiction then?

if tanking is your first priority, you should be wearing a shield (do not forget shield bearers also can have decent/high dps because there are shields that easily add over 300 dex and 8-9%++ (cant remember the limit) crit chance)

not to mention your mantra should probably be MoE + hard target (there are many monks here who uses that mantra and still have very respectable/high dps)

i mean, you're using blade storm rune for ur SW instead of cyclone anyways for dmg consistencies and prolly lack of crit %, might as well have the entire build fashioned to that same goal that you've intended, no?

if you're going to MoE as i suggested, can consider Guardian's path (if you insist on dual wielding), guiding light if you coop, or resolve (or transcendence so you can get healed while spamming MoE mantra when SW is already up) if you're solo + shield (this will let you tank a LOT better, and you can prolly focus more stats on dps)
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i thought about shields but previously all shields rolls barb stats only, which is why i invested on fist weapons because of the attack speed.
if you're looking at my current build it's not the usual build i go with coop.
i run on MoE most of the time, with cyclone, with combination strike passive. i only switch to conviction with SW when i go solo because i kill everything before i have problems tanking. im hoping to improve my monk to be able to have more dps when im tanking.


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post Oct 29 2012, 01:12 PM

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correction up there.. when i go coop is up to mp6-7
if solo i certainly would not be killing them that fast. i go solo max up to mp5

also, i do understand that shield will benefit more in terms of defense with the block% and AR, VIT, CC.
my current dps is already not high, if switching to shield it would require me to switch almost my entire build for my monk at the moment.
i see it possible to still tanking with dual fist weapon, if given a choice i'd prefer two fists over 1fist+1shield. smile.gif

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post Oct 30 2012, 10:47 AM

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guys..
im using fire walkers at the moment.
is ice climbers better than fire walker considering there's an extra slot there but no movement speed. is MS really that important? (i'm not going for the fleet footed passive anyway)

or i should stick to my initial plan
getting two nat's (the boots n the ring if im not wrong) for the 7%cc.
it's possible to get 2x inna's AND 2x nat's and get both the bonus rite?
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post Oct 30 2012, 11:12 AM

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does monk go for skorn?
1307dps, 305dx, 198CD, 1895 LOH

how much this worth?
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post Oct 30 2012, 11:16 AM

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hmm my build is more towards IAS.
i dare not think of getting skorn yet.

mempo of twilight is the helm to get right for IAS build.
i been browsing and inna's stat doesn't really favor my build.
considering if im planning to get inna's chest n pants, i dont need to go for the helm already.


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