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ioriamd
post Apr 19 2013, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(DeLarafi @ Apr 14 2013, 08:33 PM)
i've bought a Futaba T6J already.. but still looking for Phoenix 4 Simulator... really hard to find stock..
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I have extra unit of phoenix sim v4
Can upgrade online

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post Apr 19 2013, 12:10 PM

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Does anyone know or been using/flying with the cockpit view option in Phoenix V4?
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post Apr 19 2013, 02:58 PM

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I got myself a v911 type helicopter and all I do when I try to fly it, is crash it. So I got myself a bigger heli (V-max) but that crashed on the very first flight (into the neighbor's roof) and cannot fly properly, it just keeps rotating on the ground. I have changed the stabilizer bar, had to resolder the wire and change other parts on the v911.

I'm thinking, this r/c helicopter hobby is not for everybody. Even hovering indoors takes so much of an effort and only to crash it. I think I'm giving up on this as I'm not going anywhere. Or maybe I'll try the FPV type flying.

Any comments or suggestions are appreciated. Thank you.
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post Apr 19 2013, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(zamorin @ Apr 19 2013, 02:58 PM)
I got myself a v911 type helicopter and all I do when I try to fly it, is crash it. So I got myself a bigger heli (V-max) but that crashed on the very first flight (into the neighbor's roof) and cannot fly properly, it just keeps rotating on the ground. I have changed the stabilizer bar, had to resolder the wire and change other parts on the v911.

I'm thinking, this r/c helicopter hobby is not for everybody. Even hovering indoors takes so much of an effort and only to crash it. I think I'm giving up on this as I'm not going anywhere. Or maybe I'll try the FPV type flying.

Any comments or suggestions are appreciated. Thank you.
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well...that's the challenge, is it not? hovering is actually quite hard for beginners until you get the hang of it, but it's the staple maneuver.

FPV actually requires more budget and if you can't even hover in tail-in without it, then i don't see how it can help.
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post Apr 19 2013, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(zamorin @ Apr 19 2013, 02:58 PM)
I got myself a v911 type helicopter and all I do when I try to fly it, is crash it. So I got myself a bigger heli (V-max) but that crashed on the very first flight (into the neighbor's roof) and cannot fly properly, it just keeps rotating on the ground. I have changed the stabilizer bar, had to resolder the wire and change other parts on the v911.

I'm thinking, this r/c helicopter hobby is not for everybody. Even hovering indoors takes so much of an effort and only to crash it. I think I'm giving up on this as I'm not going anywhere. Or maybe I'll try the FPV type flying.

Any comments or suggestions are appreciated. Thank you.
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hovering is quite hard actually, took me 2 days to not crash so much on the air ( still can't hover smoothly ). btw, how do you crashed your v911? my v911 survived at least 30 times of crash lol
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post Apr 20 2013, 01:40 AM

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QUOTE(cpmboy @ Apr 19 2013, 01:10 PM)
Does anyone know or been using/flying with the cockpit view option in Phoenix V4?
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u need to use the 3D map in order to use the cockpit view
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post Apr 20 2013, 01:43 AM

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QUOTE(zamorin @ Apr 19 2013, 03:58 PM)
I got myself a v911 type helicopter and all I do when I try to fly it, is crash it. So I got myself a bigger heli (V-max) but that crashed on the very first flight (into the neighbor's roof) and cannot fly properly, it just keeps rotating on the ground. I have changed the stabilizer bar, had to resolder the wire and change other parts on the v911.

I'm thinking, this r/c helicopter hobby is not for everybody. Even hovering indoors takes so much of an effort and only to crash it. I think I'm giving up on this as I'm not going anywhere. Or maybe I'll try the FPV type flying.

Any comments or suggestions are appreciated. Thank you.
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bro, did u even try on the simulator? u crash there cost u nothing man! icon_rolleyes.gif and u need to find experts from the flying field to trim your Rc b4 your own personal flight (solo fly) it is recommended to seek help in RC because RC is all about communicating and sharing knowledge icon_rolleyes.gif

here go to this forum, it is all about RC and u may find the nearest flight zone that u can seek advice and some additional knowledge

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post Apr 20 2013, 01:50 AM

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anyone here letting go their turnigy9x or Flysky, FS-TH9B 2.4G 9 Channel Radio System TX plus RX ? quote me a price for the item =)
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post Apr 20 2013, 08:07 AM

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QUOTE(babyandy @ Apr 20 2013, 01:40 AM)
u need to use the 3D map in order to use the cockpit view
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i see...thanks bro
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post Apr 20 2013, 08:09 AM

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QUOTE(babyandy @ Apr 20 2013, 01:43 AM)
bro, did u even try on the simulator? u crash there cost u nothing man!  icon_rolleyes.gif and u need to find experts from the flying field to trim your Rc b4 your own personal flight (solo fly) it is recommended to seek help in RC because RC is all about communicating and sharing knowledge  icon_rolleyes.gif

here go to this forum,  it is all about RC and u may find the nearest flight zone that u can seek advice and some additional knowledge
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post Apr 21 2013, 02:04 AM

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I too, taught myself to fly. Got started in 2011. Practiced flying on simulator for months before flying an actual airplane. My first plane was an electric C182 foamy by ST Model. Got the RTF one with a China-made radio. On the first flight it dawned on me how different real world is to flying in the simulator. In the simulator there's very little depth perception unlike real world, so your eyes kinda get used to staring at the model all the time and you need to retrain yourself to rely on peripheral vision. Anyway my first flights were not so good, my landings were hard and I constantly had issues with the nosewheel of the plane (the plane was a scale plane, not built with beginners in mind, my mistake ). The final straw was when the motor threw a magnet and the C182 has never been flown since.

I never had problems with CG or with putting parts together (the foamies are simple enough to begin with), coming from an aeronautics background (I'm an aero-engineering final year student, did my homework on electric flight as well). Over the months I practiced a lot more in the sim and moved on to better and bigger planes (all foam so far) I can now fly simple aerobatics and do proper take offs and landings (as in scale-like take offs, not jumping off the ground and gentle touch-down-on-the-main-wheels landings). Got myself computer radios as well, the DX6i and Futaba 6J. I think I can now call myself a semi-beginner, still a lot to learn 'cause I've only been flying on-and-off, like every three months whenever I'm away from uni on breaks. Last month got my first balsa ARF kit, planning to put it together after graduating. Wish me luck.

You can teach yourself to fly, as long as you're prepared to at least learn how planes fly, to invest in a good simulator and spend endless hours practicing in said simulator and to always keep safety in mind. I fly alone all the time, never had anyone coaching me. Mind you, while the simulator is an indispensible tool, it's only good to train your orientation, it can never replace depth perception in 3-dimensional world, wind in your hair, turbulence, the heat, dust grass etc etc in the real world.

Bottom line is, it is very possible to teach yourself to fly/belajar terbang sendiri..


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ioriamd
post Apr 21 2013, 10:32 AM

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Diy para glider drive by ultramen
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post Apr 21 2013, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(ioriamd @ Apr 21 2013, 10:32 AM)
Diy para glider drive by ultramen
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hello! how much does it cost to build one?
mind to share the spec and the source to get it?
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post Apr 21 2013, 10:33 PM

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post Apr 21 2013, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(zeroglyph @ Apr 19 2013, 05:26 PM)
well...that's the challenge, is it not? hovering is actually quite hard for beginners until you get the hang of it, but it's the staple maneuver.

FPV actually requires more budget and if you can't even hover in tail-in without it, then i don't see how it can help.
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get a good model with a lot of spareparts
like v911,mjxf45

get more batteries


get a bigger indoor field like badmintion court

for v911, just prepare extra mainblade, and tail motor(other parts can hardly broke,even break, still can fly)

just play it anyhow you like, cut the throttle before you crash, it will survive almost any crash

after you get used to the stick , then you can start to learn hovering
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post Apr 22 2013, 01:31 AM

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QUOTE(ioriamd @ Apr 19 2013, 10:22 AM)
I have extra unit of phoenix sim v4
Can upgrade online
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should buy it from you.. already bought the one from RCSMART.. cry.gif
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post Apr 22 2013, 01:39 AM

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QUOTE(babyandy @ Apr 18 2013, 11:54 PM)
check Rc Smart! they just instock Pheonix 4.0  cool2.gif
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Thanks.. Bought... waiting for them to send it.. hope arrive by Wednesday.

ioriamd
post Apr 22 2013, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(ccfook2123 @ Apr 21 2013, 10:28 PM)
hello! how much does it cost to build one?
mind to share the spec and the source to get it?
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Parachute rm80
Ultramen - ur local shop
Some aluminium and steel rod...
Propeller rm8
Motor rm80
Esc rm85
Battery rm60
Servo rm30

Thats all i think
Its not mine... My rc member club building it... So cannot describe indetail.. But the concept is there
ioriamd
post Apr 22 2013, 09:44 AM

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QUOTE(DeLarafi @ Apr 22 2013, 01:31 AM)
should buy it from you.. already bought the one from RCSMART..  cry.gif
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Mine is copy...
Rcsmart one is ori

But function just same
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post Apr 22 2013, 09:48 AM

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zeroglyph,

I think the problem I have with LOS flying is that I'm not good at orientation and unless you are just going forward (away from you) it is never a constant. I find that particularly hard.

It is also easier to launch it with my hands than from the floor. That only makes the helicopter spin around on the ground. I more or less rectified it as there was a strand of hair stuck in between the tail rotor and it couldn't spin as it should causing the whole helicopter to spin. It still spins but it can be controlled better.

That's why I thought FPV flying maybe a better choice and I can get an AR Drone for about $1100+.


infrasonic,

Actually, I've been trying for more than 3 months (maybe 10 days flight of 20 min each). I've crashed it more than 20 times per flight (in that short time it is in the air: 5 to 15 seconds). The stabilizer bar broke after it got entangled with my blanket.I thought this will be marginally more difficult than r/c cars but the difference is significant.

babyandy,

Thanks a lot bro. I'll sure check out the link for any tips and locate a flying field with some experts near my house.



BTW I also tried/use an android based simulator.

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