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zeroglyph
post Nov 23 2012, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(QiW @ Nov 23 2012, 04:07 PM)
the new one u listed will handle wind much better and fly better
but flying it will be slightly harder than your old coaxial copter
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looks like the new one listed has a 45 degree flybar, so most likely it will fly quite similar to a coax, just a bit better. as oppose to something like a HBFP.

QUOTE(adriankhoo153 @ Nov 23 2012, 04:26 PM)
Thanks for the head up bro.. think i will jes get a new one instead.  laugh.gif
Is flying small heli same as in flying medium or big one?
maybe i will jes get the smallest one and try flying that first.  hmm.gif
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small helis are a little more twitchy and sensitive. bigger ones, because of the weight is less twitchy and more stable, which is why it can handle wind better.

also do note that this hobby requires spare parts. so go with something that you can easily find spare parts. else, you'll be grounded after just a few crashes. remember, spare parts are a must, upgrade parts are optional. definitely true for any beginners. so getting something from walkera or esky is another option as oppose to getting some brand-less one, as these 2 brands have easily accessible parts should you need any, especially in the klang valley.
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post Nov 23 2012, 06:37 PM

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QUOTE(adriankhoo153 @ Nov 23 2012, 05:06 PM)
U guys are pro. 45 degree flybar lagi..  rclxub.gif
Yeah, all the parts come with parts. I think i am gonna get that. This time might fly low and maybe indoor training b4 going outdoor. Starting to like flying..haha  nod.gif
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indoors is definitely the starting point, to eliminate any wind interference while you're trying get used to the controls. make sure you have enough spave though.
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post Jan 7 2013, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(Chongster @ Jan 7 2013, 01:36 PM)
Ok.
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Just wondering if the Align 100S/X does feel the same like the v911 "mode 1" flight? Or it's more toward the "mode 2" response? Personally find the Mode 2 a bit too sensitive ....
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shouldn't have much differences in handling. clones usually handles the same way, if it's setup the same.

mode-wise, no difference either. it depends on you. which mode your controller is in has no affect on how the heli flies. i prefer mode 1, as i don't trust my left hand with the throttle rclxub.gif .
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post Jan 7 2013, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(Chongster @ Jan 7 2013, 03:05 PM)
I am referring to the speed mode for the v911. The mode 1 for V911 is mild mode and the mode 2 meant to be turbo mode where it'll response more to the stick input tongue.gif i.e. Using the stock radio to toggle between mode 1 and 2 using the upper left button. wink.gif I find it a bit hard to control on the Turbo mode (mode 2).
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ah...ok. my bad then. i thought you were referring to controller mode. "turbo" mode is probably just a fancy gimmick, but i think if trex100 has that mode, it's just the same.
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post Jan 8 2013, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(OH- @ Jan 8 2013, 08:41 AM)
Okay thanks for the info. Also I was thinking, should I get specifically 250mah? Or could I go higher? Say 1000 mah? As far as I know, the higher the mah, the longer the run of the battery right? Would it damage the player, or should I stick to the 250?

About the connections, I prefer to just purchase the battery, then go to my local electronic shop and ask them to solder it for me.

Also, where can I buy the batteries here in malaysia? Anyone selling online through postage, would be much easier smile.gif

Thanks a lot!!
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in terms of circuitry, a circuit will only draw as much power as it needs (as in amps). more mah simply means the batt will last longer, no damage what so ever. over voltage however, is dangerous. 1000mah lipos are fairly big though, so you might want to check fitting. here's a sample(with measurement):
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/_...ngle_Cell_.html

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post Apr 12 2013, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(sLapshock @ Apr 12 2013, 02:08 AM)
Its ok to slow down.... eventually one day people will slow down... in the first thread... v1... year 2010 that was mr daddoo exact words for me...heheh...still remember it... now..unfortunately...he ate his own word but he did a good job...at least he survive for almost 3 years...
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haha...i only see 2 reason why one would slow down and maybe quit:
1. money
2. boredom

my 2 cents on it is to take slow. the slower you progress the longer this hobby will last and the least likely you get bored with it. if you decide to go hardcore from the beginning, you'll probably stop before 3 years(due to money spent or boredom). icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Apr 19 2013, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(zamorin @ Apr 19 2013, 02:58 PM)
I got myself a v911 type helicopter and all I do when I try to fly it, is crash it. So I got myself a bigger heli (V-max) but that crashed on the very first flight (into the neighbor's roof) and cannot fly properly, it just keeps rotating on the ground. I have changed the stabilizer bar, had to resolder the wire and change other parts on the v911.

I'm thinking, this r/c helicopter hobby is not for everybody. Even hovering indoors takes so much of an effort and only to crash it. I think I'm giving up on this as I'm not going anywhere. Or maybe I'll try the FPV type flying.

Any comments or suggestions are appreciated. Thank you.
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well...that's the challenge, is it not? hovering is actually quite hard for beginners until you get the hang of it, but it's the staple maneuver.

FPV actually requires more budget and if you can't even hover in tail-in without it, then i don't see how it can help.
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post Apr 22 2013, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(zamorin @ Apr 22 2013, 09:48 AM)
zeroglyph,

I think the problem I have with LOS flying is that I'm not good at orientation and unless you are just going forward (away from you) it is never a constant. I find that particularly hard.

It is also easier to launch it with my hands than from the floor. That only makes the helicopter spin around on the ground. I more or less rectified it as there was a strand of hair stuck in between the tail rotor and it couldn't spin as it should causing the whole helicopter to spin. It still spins but it can be controlled better.

That's why I thought FPV flying maybe a better choice and I can get an AR Drone for about $1100+.
infrasonic,

Actually, I've been trying for more than 3 months (maybe 10 days flight of 20 min each). I've crashed it more than 20 times per flight (in that short time it is in the air: 5 to 15 seconds). The stabilizer bar broke after it got entangled with my blanket.I thought this will be marginally more difficult than r/c cars but the difference is significant.

babyandy,

Thanks a lot bro. I'll sure check out the link for any tips and locate a flying field with some experts near my house.
BTW I also tried/use an android based simulator.
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what QiW said plus thumbup.gif :

orientations is practically the bane of this hobby. you just need to get use to it. which is why you 1st need to learn to hover tail-in(heli tail facing you). you should only starts different orientation after you can hover in tail-in with muscle memory. as in you don't have to think about it anymore. this is so that if you panicked in some other orientation, you can always go back to tail-in in a heart beat.

then only starts forward flight, circles, figure 8 and what not. i came from RC heli sim games, so yeah, i too have orientation problems in the beginning, but getting more confident nowadays.

911 are pretty stable, i could hover it in mode 2 even though i'm only used to mode 1. so it should no pose much threat. the easy thing to do is to reposition yourself to tail-in everytime the heli changed direction, that how i practice.
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post May 10 2013, 11:00 AM

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need a little verification here in regards to FPV flights. the basic things you would need for this would be:
1. a camera(duh!): this needs to be able to output the video to a screen (like tv or something). any camera will do as long as it can output the recorded video(i.e: what it sees).
2. a video tx: this will basically take the video output from the cam and transmit it wirelessly
3. a video rx: the will receive the signal from the tx and in turn, output it to something else
4. display unit: this will receive the video from the video rx and display it. can be either an LCD unit, a goggle or whatever that can receive the signal.

am i getting this correctly? obviously the interfaces which these devices connects to each other needs to be considered, right? not likely it'll be standardized.


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post May 13 2013, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(QiW @ May 10 2013, 08:05 PM)
that is basically what u need ...
choice is video transmission is important .. eg if u flying u are using 2.4 obviously u will not wanna use 2.4 as video
try to place vtx and rc rx as far apart as possible to avoid interference

try to get someone to spot for u on the 1st few flight to avoid mishaps

the rest u will figure out as u go by .. hehehe

edit ... i use servo connectors to connect between these video devices
u will only need 3 wires (video power & ground) if u do not need audio which u prolly wont coz all u will hear is the motor sound unless u power off and just glide high up
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ok got it, thanks. how much weight is a vtx anyway, in average? i've only seen pictures of it, no 1st hand experience holding it. some of it looks big.
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post May 13 2013, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(QiW @ May 13 2013, 02:08 PM)
depending on which vtx u choose
typically .. the specs includes weight
eg. this one http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/_...ransmitter.html
weighs 25gm ... but thats without antenna and wires attached laa

some like this one http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/_...amera_NTSC.html
comes in a casing ... that casing oso acts as heatsink
but the casing is super heavy ... can be removed .. u will need to make a lighter fin type heatsink for it la
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oh man...looks like i'm gonna need a bigger bird to mount all these stuff. definitely can't go FPV with a small honey bee. sweat.gif

btw, you got any experience with those KDS CP heli? how's the quality on those things? so many variations. rclxub.gif not looking for too much stunt flying(not really ready for that), just looking for a 450 worthy of outdoor flying.
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QUOTE(neato4u @ May 16 2013, 02:22 AM)
hai.. mau sibuk sibuk sini n promo my poisonos video to get ppl FPV
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FPV FPV FPV FPV!  thumbup.gif
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was this last saturday? someone i know that was there last saturday is in the vid. fancy screen effect. thumbup.gif
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post May 17 2013, 09:30 AM

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QUOTE(daddoo @ May 16 2013, 01:18 PM)
Who? Is this him from the photo below?  tongue.gif
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nope. laugh.gif

QUOTE(neato4u @ May 16 2013, 07:19 PM)
zeroglyph - yes yes last saturday laugh.gif
come fpv with us next time  thumbup.gif
daddoo -  rclxms.gif haha screenshot summore.. this is my sifoo lah  notworthy.gif
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i live around the area, but only got to fly there once. don't have the time cry.gif .
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post May 30 2013, 01:43 PM

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anyone has any experience with KDS 450QS RTF? seems like a great choice for my next flyer. not too much into 3D, just need something that's really an outdoor flyer and that's bigger than a HBFP.
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post Jun 21 2013, 09:37 AM

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crashes are pretty much as frequent as charging in the beginning. and it doesn't end there. laugh.gif

so to save yourself the pain, get something that's crash resilient to train with. as much plastic parts as possible. plastics are cheaper to replace. it's not hard, thus it can break to save the other more expensive parts. a plastic heli rotor head > metal ones for training thumbup.gif .
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post Jul 9 2013, 02:05 PM

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-my info was incorrect-

v912 runs 2 cell lipos. so practically available at any RC stores that sells lipos.

This post has been edited by zeroglyph: Jul 9 2013, 04:55 PM
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post Aug 2 2013, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(zerouzer @ Jul 28 2013, 12:59 PM)
just got my v913.. still working on getting it to hover without moving sideways.. fun biggrin.gif

is there a way to check how much battery is left on the heli? or at least indications like harder to control etc? also what happens if the heli runs out of range? if say i put it on forward, then out of range will it continue going forward, or will it stop and just hover?
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generally, when you require more throttle to hover than usual, it's time to stop flying and recharge. those beepers works too, if you have room to mount 'em.

QUOTE(FourZeroFour @ Aug 2 2013, 09:38 AM)
Got eh? Link please  drool.gif
After that, it has to be left charging for >1 hour? laugh.gif
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depends on what you're running. obviously a brushless motor can run a bit longer than a brushed. also bigger batt capacity = longer flight. most stock 2 cell lipos heli could go 6-10mins. 3 cells lipos could go up to 12mins. most of the time, the concern is overheating motor(s) & overheating battery. helis requires constant power draw, this puts loads on the batt thus heating it up. and i'm sure most people know how dangerous a lipo can be when hot(cheap ones can downright goes bloated and explodes). try running a 15C lipo on any type of Extreme brushed motors for just 6mins laugh.gif .
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post Aug 5 2013, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(zerouzer @ Aug 3 2013, 07:10 AM)
sad to say i crashed the heli (~4-5m dive) after hitting a phone pole.. initial damage was minimal.. just had to reattach aileron/elevator arms to the servo. then the tail motor died.. seems the tail shaft bent from the crash.. now waiting for replacement motor to arrive sad.gif
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too eager, right? probably the main reason for crashes. brows.gif

take it slow. get hovering and orientation 1st, then only proceed to outdoor forward flight. else, it's pole and trees all the way.
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post Sep 27 2013, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(Chongster @ Sep 27 2013, 02:16 PM)
Anyone still flying the Honey Bee FP? I am thinking of giving up on mine. tongue.gif I got lots of parts and have one v1 and one v2 with me. I did managed to do a bit of hovering last time .. but since a couple of crashed quite some time ago, now that I am taking it out to try .. it does not seems to take off at all even at full throttler.  (like max about 1/2 inches from the ground) ....
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i'm on a v2. could use the spare parts. parts are pretty scarce nowadays. i plan to keep mine flying(love the thing). PM me the deal. thumbup.gif

probably your motor(s) and/or 4-in-1 is busted. or that ring-like-o-rod on the main rotor is broken. the HB is pretty simple to figure out. usually if it won't take off, it's something to do with the rotor head.
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QUOTE(jaykay4540 @ Sep 29 2013, 11:38 AM)
Hey guys. Im thinking of getting copter rc
And attached it with my gopro. Should i choose heli or quadcopter? Thanks!
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a quad would be a better choice. for stability and mounting space.

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