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ioriamd
post Apr 22 2013, 09:52 AM

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Here in tok bali, we r into diy plane
This is one of the example...

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ioriamd
post Apr 22 2013, 10:09 AM

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Tok bali rc club
We r going to organize fun fly on june 2013 ( school holiday)
Hope lowyat member can participate too

U can register here, http://malaysia-rc.com/index.php?topic=34807.0
or just pm me in lowyat.net

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=lEkUvjxxRVY...v%3DlEkUvjxxRVY

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TSQiW
post Apr 22 2013, 01:09 PM

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QUOTE(zamorin @ Apr 22 2013, 09:48 AM)
zeroglyph,

I think the problem I have with LOS flying is that I'm not good at orientation and unless you are just going forward (away from you) it is never a constant. I find that particularly hard.

It is also easier to launch it with my hands than from the floor. That only makes the helicopter spin around on the ground. I more or less rectified it as there was a strand of hair stuck in between the tail rotor and it couldn't spin as it should causing the whole helicopter to spin. It still spins but it can be controlled better.

That's why I thought FPV flying maybe a better choice and I can get an AR Drone for about $1100+.
infrasonic,

Actually, I've been trying for more than 3 months (maybe 10 days flight of 20 min each). I've crashed it more than 20 times per flight (in that short time it is in the air: 5 to 15 seconds). The stabilizer bar broke after it got entangled with my blanket.I thought this will be marginally more difficult than r/c cars but the difference is significant.

babyandy,

Thanks a lot bro. I'll sure check out the link for any tips and locate a flying field with some experts near my house.
BTW I also tried/use an android based simulator.
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LOS orientation experience can only be gained thru practice (whether SIMULATOR or real life)
learn the hard way ... master each orientation b4 moving on to the next ... tail in ... side in ... the other side in ... then nose in
always try to find someone to fly with .. flying alone is boring and one of the fastest way to kill your interest in this
AR DRONE is only good for short distance as it is wifi operated using I/ANDROID devices and will not go far ... u will need proper RC stuff as it will go out of range very quickly when u FPV .. it is a very stable flyer though
it preferred to use a SIMULATOR with a proper radio size controller ... that way u get the "feel" of the stick instead of sliding around the screen on the phone
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post Apr 22 2013, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(zamorin @ Apr 22 2013, 09:48 AM)
zeroglyph,

I think the problem I have with LOS flying is that I'm not good at orientation and unless you are just going forward (away from you) it is never a constant. I find that particularly hard.

It is also easier to launch it with my hands than from the floor. That only makes the helicopter spin around on the ground. I more or less rectified it as there was a strand of hair stuck in between the tail rotor and it couldn't spin as it should causing the whole helicopter to spin. It still spins but it can be controlled better.

That's why I thought FPV flying maybe a better choice and I can get an AR Drone for about $1100+.
infrasonic,

Actually, I've been trying for more than 3 months (maybe 10 days flight of 20 min each). I've crashed it more than 20 times per flight (in that short time it is in the air: 5 to 15 seconds). The stabilizer bar broke after it got entangled with my blanket.I thought this will be marginally more difficult than r/c cars but the difference is significant.

babyandy,

Thanks a lot bro. I'll sure check out the link for any tips and locate a flying field with some experts near my house.
BTW I also tried/use an android based simulator.
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what QiW said plus thumbup.gif :

orientations is practically the bane of this hobby. you just need to get use to it. which is why you 1st need to learn to hover tail-in(heli tail facing you). you should only starts different orientation after you can hover in tail-in with muscle memory. as in you don't have to think about it anymore. this is so that if you panicked in some other orientation, you can always go back to tail-in in a heart beat.

then only starts forward flight, circles, figure 8 and what not. i came from RC heli sim games, so yeah, i too have orientation problems in the beginning, but getting more confident nowadays.

911 are pretty stable, i could hover it in mode 2 even though i'm only used to mode 1. so it should no pose much threat. the easy thing to do is to reposition yourself to tail-in everytime the heli changed direction, that how i practice.
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post Apr 24 2013, 03:50 PM

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QiW,zeroglyph,

Thanks bros, for all your advices.

I think the first time you try r/c flying, you tend to think you are a hero. Especially when the box advertise "Ready to fly". The big heli I bought went from ground to my neighbours house in a single finger action. I didn't get to do anything else. I'm going to try hovering for now.
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post Apr 24 2013, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(zamorin @ Apr 24 2013, 03:50 PM)
QiW,zeroglyph,

Thanks bros, for all your advices.

I think the first time you try r/c flying, you tend to think you are a hero. Especially when the box advertise "Ready to fly". The big heli I bought went from ground to my neighbours house in a single finger action. I didn't get to do anything else. I'm going to try hovering for now.
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yup...its all in the word RTF. But at same time it can be either...RTF for both heli and flyer or RTF in terms of that you need no other components and that particular heli is really ready to be flown out of the box regardless whether we as flyer are already ok, still learning or a 1st timer. Most of us can learn to fly with or without sims. So...take it one at a time...good luck bro.

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post May 10 2013, 11:00 AM

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need a little verification here in regards to FPV flights. the basic things you would need for this would be:
1. a camera(duh!): this needs to be able to output the video to a screen (like tv or something). any camera will do as long as it can output the recorded video(i.e: what it sees).
2. a video tx: this will basically take the video output from the cam and transmit it wirelessly
3. a video rx: the will receive the signal from the tx and in turn, output it to something else
4. display unit: this will receive the video from the video rx and display it. can be either an LCD unit, a goggle or whatever that can receive the signal.

am i getting this correctly? obviously the interfaces which these devices connects to each other needs to be considered, right? not likely it'll be standardized.


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post May 10 2013, 08:05 PM

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QUOTE(zeroglyph @ May 10 2013, 11:00 AM)
need a little verification here in regards to FPV flights. the basic things you would need for this would be:
1. a camera(duh!): this needs to be able to output the video to a screen (like tv or something). any camera will do as long as it can output the recorded video(i.e: what it sees).
2. a video tx: this will basically take the video output from the cam and transmit it wirelessly
3. a video rx: the will receive the signal from the tx and in turn, output it to something else
4. display unit: this will receive the video from the video rx and display it. can be either an LCD unit, a goggle or whatever that can receive the signal.

am i getting this correctly? obviously the interfaces which these devices connects to each other needs to be considered, right? not likely it'll be standardized.
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that is basically what u need ...
choice is video transmission is important .. eg if u flying u are using 2.4 obviously u will not wanna use 2.4 as video
try to place vtx and rc rx as far apart as possible to avoid interference

try to get someone to spot for u on the 1st few flight to avoid mishaps

the rest u will figure out as u go by .. hehehe

edit ... i use servo connectors to connect between these video devices
u will only need 3 wires (video power & ground) if u do not need audio which u prolly wont coz all u will hear is the motor sound unless u power off and just glide high up

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post May 13 2013, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(QiW @ May 10 2013, 08:05 PM)
that is basically what u need ...
choice is video transmission is important .. eg if u flying u are using 2.4 obviously u will not wanna use 2.4 as video
try to place vtx and rc rx as far apart as possible to avoid interference

try to get someone to spot for u on the 1st few flight to avoid mishaps

the rest u will figure out as u go by .. hehehe

edit ... i use servo connectors to connect between these video devices
u will only need 3 wires (video power & ground) if u do not need audio which u prolly wont coz all u will hear is the motor sound unless u power off and just glide high up
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ok got it, thanks. how much weight is a vtx anyway, in average? i've only seen pictures of it, no 1st hand experience holding it. some of it looks big.
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depending on which vtx u choose
typically .. the specs includes weight
eg. this one http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/_...ransmitter.html
weighs 25gm ... but thats without antenna and wires attached laa

some like this one http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/_...amera_NTSC.html
comes in a casing ... that casing oso acts as heatsink
but the casing is super heavy ... can be removed .. u will need to make a lighter fin type heatsink for it la
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post May 13 2013, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(QiW @ May 13 2013, 02:08 PM)
depending on which vtx u choose
typically .. the specs includes weight
eg. this one http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/_...ransmitter.html
weighs 25gm ... but thats without antenna and wires attached laa

some like this one http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/_...amera_NTSC.html
comes in a casing ... that casing oso acts as heatsink
but the casing is super heavy ... can be removed .. u will need to make a lighter fin type heatsink for it la
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oh man...looks like i'm gonna need a bigger bird to mount all these stuff. definitely can't go FPV with a small honey bee. sweat.gif

btw, you got any experience with those KDS CP heli? how's the quality on those things? so many variations. rclxub.gif not looking for too much stunt flying(not really ready for that), just looking for a 450 worthy of outdoor flying.
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honey bee ... i think still able laa
provided u are not expecting crazy range la
a 200mW 5.8 system should be good (with the proper antennas of coz)
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post May 16 2013, 02:22 AM

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hai.. mau sibuk sibuk sini n promo my poisonos video to get ppl FPV
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FPV FPV FPV FPV! thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(neato4u @ May 16 2013, 02:22 AM)
hai.. mau sibuk sibuk sini n promo my poisonos video to get ppl FPV
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FPV FPV FPV FPV!  thumbup.gif
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was this last saturday? someone i know that was there last saturday is in the vid. fancy screen effect. thumbup.gif
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post May 16 2013, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(zeroglyph @ May 16 2013, 10:00 AM)
was this last saturday? someone i know that was there last saturday is in the vid. fancy screen effect.  thumbup.gif
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Who? Is this him from the photo below? tongue.gif




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post May 16 2013, 07:19 PM

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QUOTE(zeroglyph @ May 16 2013, 10:00 AM)
was this last saturday? someone i know that was there last saturday is in the vid. fancy screen effect.  thumbup.gif
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zeroglyph - yes yes last saturday laugh.gif
come fpv with us next time thumbup.gif

QUOTE(daddoo @ May 16 2013, 01:18 PM)
Who? Is this him from the photo below?  tongue.gif
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daddoo - rclxms.gif haha screenshot summore.. this is my sifoo lah notworthy.gif

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QUOTE(daddoo @ May 16 2013, 01:18 PM)
Who? Is this him from the photo below?  tongue.gif
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nope. laugh.gif

QUOTE(neato4u @ May 16 2013, 07:19 PM)
zeroglyph - yes yes last saturday laugh.gif
come fpv with us next time  thumbup.gif
daddoo -  rclxms.gif haha screenshot summore.. this is my sifoo lah  notworthy.gif
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i live around the area, but only got to fly there once. don't have the time cry.gif .
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QUOTE(neato4u @ May 16 2013, 07:19 PM)
daddoo -  rclxms.gif haha screenshot summore.. this is my sifoo lah  notworthy.gif
He is sifoo of a lot of people including me. thumbup.gif
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post May 21 2013, 12:48 PM

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eh ... u ppl dont simply say la
later i kena from the "real" sifoos when i go fly sites .. hahaha
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