Thanks.

Yes, the best price quoted is RM3050 (cash), credit card +4%.

Patiently wait for a great deal at lazada.
Cheers.

Hi guys, wassup?
I've just installed a new shower screen..

This post has been edited by mel5582: Apr 10 2015, 07:07 PM


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if you're planning to pay >rm2k for an espresso machine, at least avoid those plastic pannarello wand.. just make the setup looks toyish.. btw, what's the reason/factor for considering the gaggia classic?

since you already knew taobao, there're plenty offers to consider there too.. you may even spot some e61 machines there as well..

anyone watching WBC live stream? Cheers
http://livestream.com/accounts/738645/events/3952873

ooo, IMS. how's the coffee from it?

Hi,
Actually, i have yet to decide on which machine to get. Still exploring and researching. No particular reason on gaggia classic as my shortlisted machine are consider popular entry level. All has pros and cons and features base on price.

Yes, i saw a lot e61. However, same brand n model, price so much different eg. Expobar. Fake or imitation?Saw 2 model abt rmb3200 n rmb 1300, milesto n raccea. Cheapest e61, anyone has expereince abt this models?

Saw another type em18, em19 machine. Looks promising. Btw, i don really read chinese. So a bit difficult to know the info listed on taobao.

Btw, which wpm grinder u ordered? Together with ur kd-210s2? When u expected to receive ur new gadgets?

Cheers.

I think it works better with precision baskets.. But the coffee extracted tastes very smooth and less bitter. I've tried with same dose with stock basket, VST, and IMS.. VST and IMS, I can grind finer than I usually do with this screen. For stock basket, not much effect.. But for precision baskets, less donuts.. More forgiving on the level and tamp.

being someone who probably drinks 2 cups of coffee a week.. i find it hard to quantify the kind of cost you'd want to spend on such indulgence.. mind you, the path towards this coffee aficionado can be very mind boggling and costly.. at every stage of investment, be it material(hardware, beans, etc), time and skill.. it may bring you away from actually enjoying a simple cup of coffee to a near manic-state of being a perfectionist.

that being said, you decide on your own path.. any espresso machines do have it's strength and weakness.. preferentials can be had over:
1. the type of boiler/heater used
2. the type of group head at dispensing the extract
3. the type of materials(brass, nickel, composite, etc) of all the internals and peripherals(that includes the portafilters, etc)
4. the aesthetics and functions(which includes the electronics)

for whatever machines you found on taobao, your outmost leverage, is it's cost.. retail prices here in m'sia has quite a fat margin to begin with.. since it's your 1st machine, you can spend some time understanding all the intricacies of #1-4 and perhaps you can also avail yourself to some coffee-related expo/exhibition.. something like the mbc(m'sia barista championship), fhm and one upcoming at matrade, called cafe malaysia which happens to be on may-2015(next month). there are lots of samples you can try and appreciate from these events.. unlike those you try on cafes which may brew you some not-so-fresh beans.

then you can comfortably decide, what type of espresso machine you may want to invest given your frequency of usage and the cost and time you're willing to invest in it.

at this point of time, why an e61? is it because somebody said so? can you discern the difference? if you're born with a insensitive taste buds, you wouldn't tell the subtle differences from the roasted beans extracted from different machines.. not all e61 are made the same..

machine and grinder are just part of the equation.. how about coffee beans, where are you planning to source them?

when we're at dankoff the other day, the particular salesman brewed us a terribly bitter espresso.. it wasn't a committed sales pitching, just routine perhaps.. so a good espresso machine too can produce a terrible drink.. lol

wpm zd-12 .. heard of it? all the stuff should be arriving within these few weeks i suppose.. the grinder is surprizingly good, given it's price (it's just a fraction of all those grinders that you mentioned earlier).. consistency is good for a low volume grinder. that's what we liked..

fake or not.. pay attention to the wattage and weight of the machines.. that's the hint. unless they pack "bricks" inside.. #3(material) can be substantial in weight.. and to generate a good extraction, you'd need a certain wattage to generate the kind of pressure/heat.. don't be surprize that an espresso machine will probably be the highest wattage rated appliances in your home if you're considering a good machine.. 3,000 - 5,000 watt can be the norm.. if it's below 1,000 watt.. we'll look away.

jason loo got bumped out?

I have this type of coffee machine :



Question is;

Can I buy the ground coffee bean from, say, Lavazza,
and use it with my coffee machine ?



And if I may ask, what are the 'keyword' I need to look for to see whether
the coffee beans are suitable for my coffee machine?

This post has been edited by nujikabane: Apr 11 2015, 11:24 PM

Ppl who drinks 2 cups a week just go outside to buy cheaper. Don't need any machine to begin with.

I think this darn good but watt just 2400 so not the norm?
https://londiniumespresso.com/store/londini...nes/londinium-i
This also just 1400 but price at £1.6k
http://www.coffeeitalia.co.uk/proddetail.p...kmill_vetrano2b

Espresso grind for your machine is too fine.
Yes u can buy lavazza
Look for something like the below
https://www.shoplavazza.com/collections/the...ffee-experience

In fact many pre ground coffee as long as they didn't indicate espresso ground can be used
Ie
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B001EQ54IM/r...i=AC_SY200_QL40

This post has been edited by patryn33: Apr 12 2015, 01:13 AM

Taobao buy Italian brand is risky

I saw Singaporean buying from online Italian shop as it's cheaper even after tax and shipping fees. Look below if u want to go for E61.
https://www.espressocoffeeshop.com/index.ph...path=122_87_167

Buy China mushroom brand such as raccea risky.
http://m.intl.taobao.com/detail/detail.html?id=36296970502

This post has been edited by patryn33: Apr 12 2015, 01:30 AM

Thanks for the reply!

If I understand it correctly, my coffee machine is not meant for espresso. Is it correct?

Say, if I were to buy from Starbucks, and they mention how'd I like my ground coffee to be,
do I mention extra fine, fine, or coarse?

Medium
http://ineedcoffee.com/coffee-grind-chart/

Actually, the choices of Italian machines on Taobao is not bad.. the main problem is the import tax, AND maintenance. These machines come in huge boxes.. yes, maybe you might not pay for shipping based on volumetric weight, but in general they're heavy.. and tax, is a whole different story.

Best to get a trusted distributor or reseller to help import it for you if you're certain you want a particular machine not available in Malaysia.

As for most pre-grounded coffee off the shelf, they're mostly medium/medium fine grind. You can use a brew pot with them.

This post has been edited by mel5582: Apr 12 2015, 09:29 AM

Wow, so many replies in the last couple of days. Welcome to those who have just discovered this topic!

A friend of mine bought his simonelli from taobao at 2.5k, 1k cheaper than Malaysia. It's been good to him so far.

This post has been edited by Keng: Apr 12 2015, 09:47 AM

quick into conclusion eh? that's the problem with selective comprehension..
try to pair these 2 sentences.. "good machine 3,000 - 5,000 Watt" and "avoid those below 1,000 Watt"
showing a lever machine just defeat the purpose of having a high wattage to begin with.. i did mentioned the specific reason for having a high wattage.. and it's a bit shallow of you to compare that to a lever machine.. read the following carefully.. Londinium "The electric pump is not used to load water from the boiler into the group"

i'd understand you're probably a person who doesn't have a good grasp of risk-mitigation.. it's risky to you, but not to us.. your stereotype of "china product" is exactly how taiwan went through their period being stigmatized nearly 20 years ago.. and japan; 3-4 decades ago.. and look at how perception of taiwainese/japanese stuff compared today?

if they ship via air.. it's going to cost a bomb.. sea freight is a more reasonable method though.. irony is that, if your espresso machine weights more than 60kg.. it's totally/automatically tax free!


unfortunately this patryn33 guy sort of carpet-bombed the whole notion of sourcing it from china..

^ What type of coffee machine is this?
I don't mean the brand, but the variant.

It is drip machine, is it not?

Sourcing from China isn't bad if you know your supplier and what u buying. My friends living in China source branded things outside China not on taobao. Risk mitigation, it's your money not mine I not losing sleep on how u going to spend it.

Don't jump the gun too quick dude, insinuate carpet bombing just on this? Don't have to edu us on history, perception with these nation and their products change over time as a country progress is that anything new?

Thank you For the private message, you really go ways out to make your point cover all the bases. wow u have time

This post has been edited by patryn33: Apr 12 2015, 06:22 PM