Hi,
Thanks for the correction. So, the KD-210S2 is an improved version of EM6910/KD-210S. Should be less problems then. Mind to PM me the contact for China seller? Which model did you order for the grinder? Z-15?

Just noticed lazada reduced the price for Gaggia Classic to RM2,111. Very good price. Tempting.

Anyone has experience with Gaggia MDF Grinder? Any good?

Cheers. Have a great weekend!

Sourcing from China isn't bad if you know your supplier and what u buying. My friends living in China source branded things outside China not on taobao. Risk mitigation, it's your money not mine I not losing sleep on how u going to spend it.

Don't jump the gun too quick dude, insinuate carpet bombing just on this? Don't have to edu us on history, perception with these nation and their products change over time as a country progress is that anything new?

Thank you For the private message, you really go ways out to make your point cover all the bases. wow u have time

Hi cschuang. I myself is using the Gaggia MDF grinder. It grinds great for espresso sized grinds. Fine enough to choke the machine. Only grinding at step 4 out of 34 grind settings. Less than 15 seconds to grind 18g of coffee. One down side is the grind retention in the chute. You'll need to sweep the excess into the doser. Otherwise it's a great machine to start up with. Do check out my thread if you wish to get a used unit. https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...6&hl=gaggia+mdf.

Ppl who drinks 2 cups a week just go outside to buy cheaper. Don't need any machine to begin with.

I think this darn good but watt just 2400 so not the norm?
https://londiniumespresso.com/store/londini...nes/londinium-i
This also just 1400 but price at £1.6k
http://www.coffeeitalia.co.uk/proddetail.p...kmill_vetrano2b

being someone who probably drinks 2 cups of coffee a week.. i find it hard to quantify the kind of cost you'd want to spend on such indulgence.. mind you, the path towards this coffee aficionado can be very mind boggling and costly.. at every stage of investment, be it material(hardware, beans, etc), time and skill.. it may bring you away from actually enjoying a simple cup of coffee to a near manic-state of being a perfectionist.

that being said, you decide on your own path.. any espresso machines do have it's strength and weakness.. preferentials can be had over:
1. the type of boiler/heater used
2. the type of group head at dispensing the extract
3. the type of materials(brass, nickel, composite, etc) of all the internals and peripherals(that includes the portafilters, etc)
4. the aesthetics and functions(which includes the electronics)

for whatever machines you found on taobao, your outmost leverage, is it's cost.. retail prices here in m'sia has quite a fat margin to begin with.. since it's your 1st machine, you can spend some time understanding all the intricacies of #1-4 and perhaps you can also avail yourself to some coffee-related expo/exhibition.. something like the mbc(m'sia barista championship), fhm and one upcoming at matrade, called cafe malaysia which happens to be on may-2015(next month). there are lots of samples you can try and appreciate from these events.. unlike those you try on cafes which may brew you some not-so-fresh beans.

then you can comfortably decide, what type of espresso machine you may want to invest given your frequency of usage and the cost and time you're willing to invest in it.

at this point of time, why an e61? is it because somebody said so? can you discern the difference? if you're born with a insensitive taste buds, you wouldn't tell the subtle differences from the roasted beans extracted from different machines.. not all e61 are made the same..

machine and grinder are just part of the equation.. how about coffee beans, where are you planning to source them?

when we're at dankoff the other day, the particular salesman brewed us a terribly bitter espresso.. it wasn't a committed sales pitching, just routine perhaps.. so a good espresso machine too can produce a terrible drink.. lol

wpm zd-12 .. heard of it? all the stuff should be arriving within these few weeks i suppose.. the grinder is surprizingly good, given it's price (it's just a fraction of all those grinders that you mentioned earlier).. consistency is good for a low volume grinder. that's what we liked..

fake or not.. pay attention to the wattage and weight of the machines.. that's the hint. unless they pack "bricks" inside.. #3(material) can be substantial in weight.. and to generate a good extraction, you'd need a certain wattage to generate the kind of pressure/heat.. don't be surprize that an espresso machine will probably be the highest wattage rated appliances in your home if you're considering a good machine.. 3,000 - 5,000 watt can be the norm.. if it's below 1,000 watt.. we'll look away.

hi i'm currently using petrus pe3360 and what i can say is stay away from petrus because it is hard to find the parts when you need to modify or replacement. And the output of the espresso is  not as concentrated as better machine even though i use the non-pressurized basket, for the milk steaming I taken out the plastic and used about few months to master it and create microfoam. In my opinion, Petrus is a forever no for me in the future 

I see, even the a lil higher version which is 3300 will hv the same issues I guess.
The other similar one is D&K.

D＆k DK-2075A (About RM500+ after shipping)
Product Link: D&K

Video: D&K
Functions are all the same with the Petrus and the only difference:
3 in one function either coffee powder, capsules or bag (refer to the photo below)





Petrus/柏翠 PE3300 (About RM500+ after shipping)
This is also Petrus but a little bit higher tier because of the steam controller
Product link: Petrus 3300

Video: Petrus 3300

Functions are also all the same, comes with aluminium body





I'm not an coffee expert at all. Appreciate if anyone could just enlightened me.

I know many is against buying 'made in china' / 'taobao' goods, but just comparing, if they're actually the same OEM, maybe can consider as well?
I've bought my pet blower, shaver and many other stuffs from taobao, they seemed to be working fine and well after many years. The price I paid was of course much lower. Pet blower, I paid RM250, here selling same for RM500+

I think more or less the same cause they copied Capresso EC50 LOL. In my opinion, saeco poemia is the best choice among these all taobao products and you can find quite number of guides or mods on the internet and also the parts for the poemia. For the warranty sides it's more reliable cause you can get the poemia in Malaysia although the price is higher. 

If I think it's better to get Philips Seaco Poemia HD8325 / 8323 than the China brand you posted.

Or maybe can consider this.

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1...9e-eec684718ed0

I'm interested on this

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z0k....&_u=drnfe7u2b3a

But the inner hose seem using rubber hoses, this make me drawback abit..

Fuh.. that's nice but a lil over budget for me. After shipping is at least 1k plus. Since I'm only looking at very basic entry level but definitely not Dolce Gusto or automatic ones.
I guess Philips is the best choice then.

If I think it's better to get Philips Seaco Poemia HD8325 / 8323 than the China brand you posted.

Or maybe can consider this.

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1...9e-eec684718ed0

I'm interested on this

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z0k....&_u=drnfe7u2b3a

But the inner hose seem using rubber hoses, this make me drawback abit..

fuyohhh that gemilai. the price tempting. I was aiming gaggia classic but now saw this. OMG

Hi everyone,
would like to seek some advice on semi-auto coffee machine, just the entry level ones. I'm not really a coffee person but this is a gift to someone else.
Looking at price ranges from RM500 - 900.

Considering between:
Philips Seaco Poemia HD8325 / 8323

I'm using Poemia now, so I guess my comment should be valid 

I bought it because:
1. Its sold here officially by Philips, so no worries about spare parts.
2. Ease of de-repressurized, and you can consider going for bottomless upgrade also from seattle coffee gear. Or you can just cut the bottom off if you dare.
3. You can take off the pannarello to have manual frother but there's a downside to this.

Why I won't?
1. Downside to the pannarello is its too short. You'll need to use say 12oz milk pitcher and fill up near the 'V', roughly about 4-5oz. So if you're making a 6oz latte, you'll have to waste a bit. You can buy a pannarello from another Saeco model to extend the wand, which I can't recall what right now.
2. Steam wand is not pillow ball type, delonghi EC155 can be upgraded for this.

I didn't mention about power or temp control coz that's what this range of budget can get you. You can consider adding PID to help you do that, I've done it halfway and left it there since LOL. Any other doubts, feel free to ask

I am newbie in espresso making and am planning to consider a espresso machine for my everyday coffee. I usually take one cup of coffee everyday before work. Usually Latte.
I can see that many are recommending Delonghi EC155 for beginner but I also seem to realized many were discussing about the wand. What exactly is the issue with its wand?

Is EC155 a good unit for starter to make good coffee? Does it require a coffee grinder?
How much does a decent coffee grinder typically cost? Could anyone recommend me few model for me as starting point for research?

Will EC155+decent coffee grinder a better deal than a all in one machine like Beville BES870?