I wish to bypass agent but i heard that it is actually very risky..Why is that so?
This post has been edited by gseed87: Oct 22 2012, 11:20 AM
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Oct 22 2012, 11:16 AM
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I wish to bypass agent but i heard that it is actually very risky..Why is that so? This post has been edited by gseed87: Oct 22 2012, 11:20 AM |
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Oct 22 2012, 11:22 AM
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Oct 22 2012, 01:03 PM
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QUOTE(gseed87 @ Oct 18 2012, 11:25 AM) hi to all the brother and sister, Cant they provide you a scanned copy and email it you all the relevant documents that your employer requires?Recently i was getting a job offer as project engineer in SG. However, i have a question regarding the EP. I'm a fresh graduate in degree. I do not have the letter of study completion and all the semester transcript. My university is at Sabah where it is expensive for me to go back. My convo is at next week and i'm not going back. I request my uni to post back the cert and transcript for me. But it takes time. So, can i start working while waiting my cert posted to me? |
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Oct 22 2012, 01:37 PM
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QUOTE(icycokes @ Oct 5 2012, 10:59 PM) Hi Kiero, hope you find my reply useful. Thank You So Much for this reply 1) I would say its quite easy for Msians. Some company might have quota issues as in not enough quota to hire foreigners. But no worries if you're getting an EP since there is no quota for EP. 2) If you have relatives or friends currently in SG it would be much more easier maybe you can ask them to provide lodging? If not, there are some cheap hostels around which rent for $20~$30 daily, but be prepared to live with all sorts of people. 3) Not in the industry so can't advice but please bear in mind that competition is stiff nowadays (PRCs, Indians and even Europeans are flocking to Singapore). Your pay may be lower than locals. 4) Usually 2 years (I've a friend given 1 year validity though, he need to renew it every year). Added on October 22, 2012, 1:39 pm QUOTE(icycokes @ Oct 6 2012, 09:06 AM) Thanks for this too This post has been edited by Success_Kiero: Oct 22 2012, 01:39 PM |
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Oct 22 2012, 02:11 PM
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Oct 22 2012, 02:27 PM
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it's not really advisable to bypass agent especially when you're new to renting a new place, and moreover new to sg.
some people take their risk, i guess it's alright if you're able to draft out a written contract signed by you and your landlord. most people start to bypass agent when they're renewing their contract. |
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Oct 22 2012, 05:41 PM
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is it legal to do freelance as a permit holder in Singapore?
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Oct 23 2012, 01:43 AM
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hi fellows, i do have a question here
do i able to work at SG if i only have spm cert? only able to work untill august 2013, is it posible to get a job since i do not have diploma or further cert should find job through agent, or go SG personally to find? no problem on accomodation as my sis live there |
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Oct 23 2012, 07:58 AM
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QUOTE(busyman @ Oct 23 2012, 01:43 AM) hi fellows, i do have a question here yes, you could work in Sg with only a spm cert. Heard Sakae Sushi is hiring last month, SGD3k/month do i able to work at SG if i only have spm cert? only able to work untill august 2013, is it posible to get a job since i do not have diploma or further cert should find job through agent, or go SG personally to find? no problem on accomodation as my sis live there |
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Oct 23 2012, 08:21 AM
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QUOTE(jasonkwk @ Oct 22 2012, 05:41 PM) is it legal to do freelance as a permit holder in Singapore? No it's not. If MOM finds out, they can/will/could cancel your permit. |
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Oct 23 2012, 08:48 AM
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QUOTE(jasonkwk @ Oct 22 2012, 05:41 PM) Play safe, convert to PR only do freelance. Added on October 23, 2012, 8:49 am QUOTE(PepsiCo @ Oct 23 2012, 07:58 AM) Yeah, since his plannning is work in short term, go for the highest salary offer.XDThis post has been edited by yhoong12: Oct 23 2012, 08:49 AM |
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Oct 23 2012, 05:21 PM
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This is puzzling.
I was looking at SG-Ipoh flights on Firefly. Date is specific 30 Nov to 2 Dec I dont understand why this route is priced so expensively. Take SG - Kota Bharu as comparison (which is further than Ipoh), is significantly cheaper. I dont think the passenger service charge/ security charge cause the huge difference. So I am obviously very agitated now and ready to write to http://www.mycc.gov.my/ and cc: customer_care@fireflyz.com.my. Attaching the price comparison as supporting document. Do you think that will do the magic or it would be another mail in the trash folder, giving those people some good laughs? This post has been edited by keelim: Oct 23 2012, 05:33 PM |
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Oct 23 2012, 06:51 PM
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QUOTE(keelim @ Oct 23 2012, 05:21 PM) This is puzzling. It's not priced solely on distance. Also based on supply/competition (who else is offering alternative flights or alternative modes of transport ie. express bus); and based on demand. There is no other airline flying into Ipoh, the bus takes 8 hours and flying via KLIA takes 8 hours also. There are other airlines besides Firefly that flies into KB. And in terms of demand, there are a lot of Ipohites working in Sg compared to KBites. Additionally, I noticed that there are now a lot more people from Ipoh flying to other destinations out of Changi (via Firefly) rather than fly out of KLIA. Now that Firefly flies out of Changi Terminal 2 instead of Budget Terminal, I think this section of demand will grow.I was looking at SG-Ipoh flights on Firefly. Date is specific 30 Nov to 2 Dec I dont understand why this route is priced so expensively. Take SG - Kota Bharu as comparison (which is further than Ipoh), is significantly cheaper. I dont think the passenger service charge/ security charge cause the huge difference. So I am obviously very agitated now and ready to write to http://www.mycc.gov.my/ and cc: customer_care@fireflyz.com.my. Attaching the price comparison as supporting document. Do you think that will do the magic or it would be another mail in the trash folder, giving those people some good laughs? |
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Oct 23 2012, 07:46 PM
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QUOTE(jasonkwk @ Oct 22 2012, 05:41 PM) Yes.QUOTE If MOM finds out, they can/will/could cancel your permit. As the saying goes, "You can do whatever you want, just dont get caught". Its not uncommon for ppl to do things illegally in singapore, their just careful not to attract to much attention from the authorities. How else can you explain prominent people having paid sex with minors. This post has been edited by crapp0: Oct 23 2012, 07:50 PM |
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Oct 23 2012, 08:36 PM
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QUOTE(jasonkwk @ Oct 22 2012, 05:41 PM) is it legal to do freelance as a permit holder in Singapore? QUOTE(crapp0 @ Oct 23 2012, 07:46 PM) Yes. Yes your head. Whether somebody wants to take the risk or not is up to them, but you shouldn't be telling them "yes it's legal" when in fact is is not. |
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Oct 23 2012, 08:40 PM
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QUOTE(deodorant @ Oct 23 2012, 08:36 PM) Yes your head. Whether somebody wants to take the risk or not is up to them, but you shouldn't be telling them "yes it's legal" when in fact is is not. My bad. Sorry about that. I guess being civil is in short supply.This post has been edited by crapp0: Oct 23 2012, 08:42 PM |
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Oct 23 2012, 09:12 PM
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QUOTE(seantang @ Oct 23 2012, 06:51 PM) It's not priced solely on distance. Also based on supply/competition (who else is offering alternative flights or alternative modes of transport ie. express bus); and based on demand. There is no other airline flying into Ipoh, the bus takes 8 hours and flying via KLIA takes 8 hours also. There are other airlines besides Firefly that flies into KB. And in terms of demand, there are a lot of Ipohites working in Sg compared to KBites. Additionally, I noticed that there are now a lot more people from Ipoh flying to other destinations out of Changi (via Firefly) rather than fly out of KLIA. Now that Firefly flies out of Changi Terminal 2 instead of Budget Terminal, I think this section of demand will grow. My observation is the airline is highly confident in selling Sg-Ipoh tickets despite a price premium at launch. A check on pricing across the available dates confirm this. Compared to KB where the airport is further but managed by the same operator, clearly Firefly is milking substantial profit on this route assuming the same unit cost base. I wonder why Ipoh tourism board (well if there is one to begin with) or the anti competition body did not make an effort to look into/regulate monopolized public infrastructure. This should be a social service for a start. If demand alone is the sole reason for price increment, thats profit maximization Firefly is allowed to earn its cost of capital only, more so the reason when it is a monopoly. For the same price, I can travel to Bangkok and telling the airline to keep the change! |
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Oct 23 2012, 10:44 PM
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Guys, I got an job offer at Woodland, planning to stay at JB after settle down, is that a good option? What time need to leave from home as my working hour starts from 9am? How long does it takes travel from JB to Woodland?
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Oct 23 2012, 11:19 PM
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QUOTE(gseed87 @ Oct 18 2012, 11:25 AM) hi to all the brother and sister, It is illegal to start working without a work pass (work permit, S-Pass, EP). You need letter of completion and full transcript for work pass application.Recently i was getting a job offer as project engineer in SG. However, i have a question regarding the EP. I'm a fresh graduate in degree. I do not have the letter of study completion and all the semester transcript. My university is at Sabah where it is expensive for me to go back. My convo is at next week and i'm not going back. I request my uni to post back the cert and transcript for me. But it takes time. So, can i start working while waiting my cert posted to me? |
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Oct 24 2012, 12:05 AM
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QUOTE(keelim @ Oct 23 2012, 09:12 PM) My observation is the airline is highly confident in selling Sg-Ipoh tickets despite a price premium at launch. A check on pricing across the available dates confirm this. Compared to KB where the airport is further but managed by the same operator, clearly Firefly is milking substantial profit on this route assuming the same unit cost base. I wonder why Ipoh tourism board (well if there is one to begin with) or the anti competition body did not make an effort to look into/regulate monopolized public infrastructure. This should be a social service for a start. MAS has been traditionally servicing domestic interstate and pendalaman routes as national service. But this is a commercial international route. No way this will be construed as a "social service".If demand alone is the sole reason for price increment, thats profit maximization Firefly is allowed to earn its cost of capital only, more so the reason when it is a monopoly. For the same price, I can travel to Bangkok and telling the airline to keep the change! Where did you get the idea that Firefly is allowed to earn cost of capital only? It's part of a listed company with shareholders. It's not a public utility or public transport operator. International airfares are not regulated. As for the argument it is a monopoly, I remember reading the valid counter-argument that although it is the sole provider of Ipoh-Sg flights, it is not the only provider of commercial passenger transport between Ipoh-Sg. The express bus service carries far more passengers at a much greater service frequency and it is these buses which are the actual/traditional "public service" or "social service". Firefly is positioned as a niche and premium service, aimed at high value customers who are looking for convenience not provided by the bus service. It is therefore fulfilling a "discretionary want" rather than "basic need" by providing a service that was not available before and as such is not displacing the existing public good ie. the express bus service. And there is alternative air service flying to Sg from KLIA. But ultimately you are right. The Ipoh-Sg route is Firefly's cash cow. It is normally 75%+ filled even on weekdays, in both directions. It subsidises the highly competitive routes like KL-Sg and lower passenger load routes like Sg-KB where prices are low to put bums on seats to earn a small margin above variable cost to keep their fleet's operating rate high. This post has been edited by seantang: Oct 24 2012, 12:40 AM |
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