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 Working in Singapore V12, Yusheng - 23rd Feb (Saturday)

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JohnJon82
post Jan 29 2013, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(MatXSelamat @ Jan 29 2013, 01:00 AM)
Just a quick one.

If i bought Electric Appliance for personal use worth SGD 300, do i need to declare it when going back to Malaysia? (at Malaysia kastam) smile.gif
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If in doubt, always declare. I think personal use also need to pay tax. Throw the box and bring in your bag. How much is the tax for electric appliance tax if bring back btw?
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post Jan 29 2013, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(JohnJon82 @ Jan 29 2013, 01:26 PM)
If in doubt, always declare. I think personal use also need to pay tax. Throw the box and bring in your bag. How much is the tax for electric appliance tax if bring back btw?
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post Jan 29 2013, 02:13 PM

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anyone know what is the salary range for service engineer in tobacco industry in sg? with a 3 years experience in service eng.
Was surprise when they call me for interview as i'm in semi-con industry.

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post Jan 29 2013, 02:31 PM

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Hi everyone..
I'm going to join the work force in singapore soon..

Anyway, I just received confirmation from my future company that the application for my employment pass completed and successful, do I need to collect the pass? From who? Do I need to bring along documents to collect the pass..

And also, any room to let nearby Clementi mrt or boon lay mrt..?
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QUOTE(ameil @ Jan 29 2013, 02:31 PM)
Anyway, I just received confirmation from my future company that the application for my employment pass completed and successful, do I need to collect the pass? From who? Do I need to bring along documents to collect the pass..

Congrats and welcome to the club. The company is supposed to give you the IPA (in principal approval) letter from MOM (ministry of manpower). You print this and enter SG (do note that you still need to fill up immigration white card). Once in SG, do medical check up if necessary, then follow the instructions on the IPA to schedule the completion of formalities to get your EP card issued by MOM.

Also, PM your contact number/details to MacKiddo and ask him to add you to "the list." There's about 20 of us who meet up fairly regularly to do BBQ's, TCSS, yumcha, etc etc.

QUOTE(ameil @ Jan 29 2013, 02:31 PM)
And also, any room to let nearby Clementi mrt or boon lay mrt..?

PM yeahs4.1, this one is Boon Lay kaki and I think also looking for housemates.
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QUOTE(JohnJon82 @ Jan 27 2013, 12:17 AM)
Does those agency charge you commission if you found a job? Like half or a month of your salary? Very annoyed with those kind of agency. Apply direct to the company's website or adv. Degree holder with 3 years exp not bad already.
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No. They didn't.. Coz I haven't get SG job. I also refer to KL recruitment firm to help but they tell me the economy situation and what they know from those who is worked in SG and returned to KL!... I applied for both recruitment firm sg and direct employers! One thing really make me dissapointed is they just want to looking for Singaporean/ SPR to fill those posts! Actually, I got 5 years working experiences.. 2 years from others fields. I'm very interested to the buyer and supply chains jobs but my relevant working experiences in this field is only 3 years!... I received a few calls from US MNC & domestic company in SG, they conducted phone interview with me. But, there's no news from them. I really want to know the salary range offer in SG for those positions!... I know that they are very straight to looking for a candidates to fill those positions! Hope yours can provide some information regarding my case. Thanks.
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QUOTE(samual8833 @ Jan 29 2013, 05:26 PM)
No. They didn't.. Coz I haven't get SG job. I also refer to KL recruitment firm to help but they tell me the economy situation and what they know from those who is worked in SG and returned to KL!... I applied for both recruitment firm sg and direct employers! One thing really make me dissapointed is they just want to looking for Singaporean/ SPR to fill those posts! Actually, I got 5 years working experiences.. 2 years from others fields. I'm very interested to the buyer and supply chains jobs but my relevant working experiences in this field is only 3 years!... I received a few calls from US MNC & domestic company in SG, they conducted phone interview with me. But, there's no news from them. I really want to know the salary range offer in SG for those positions!... I know that they are very straight to looking for a candidates to fill those positions! Hope yours can provide some information regarding my case. Thanks.
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a quick google with jobsdb, i notice it range up to 8k rolleyes.gif ,
so lower your expectation below 8k
5 figure maybe next few year later ok nod.gif


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post Jan 29 2013, 06:05 PM

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QUOTE(tailtwist @ Jan 29 2013, 02:07 PM)
10-20% iianm
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Thanks for info!
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post Jan 29 2013, 06:25 PM

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QUOTE(ivanswk @ Jan 29 2013, 05:51 PM)
a quick google with jobsdb, i notice it range up to 8k  rolleyes.gif ,
so lower your expectation below 8k
5 figure maybe next few year later ok  nod.gif
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8K SGD? That's X10miles far away from my expected salary!... I never request for that high salary! As I know it is impossible!... That salary range is for GM / AGM!... I also don't think they will offer 8K to the manager or Asst. manager!... I'm just apply for the small potato post in sg... I request for a reasonable expected salary according to my relevant experiences and qualification also got less chance... Is that KL MNC is far different from SG MNC/ even SG local companies? Those sg companies said that's KL experiences... I really don't understand why they said so? As I'm handle the SG business that's transfer from SG office... All the operation is still operate in SG... Moreover, we are using the international system and our system consultant and IT engineers all are from SG... Just, I'm physically working in KL... All of my knowledge is from SG too....
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QUOTE(samual8833 @ Jan 29 2013, 05:26 PM)
No. They didn't.. Coz I haven't get SG job. I also refer to KL recruitment firm to help but they tell me the economy situation and what they know from those who is worked in SG and returned to KL!... I applied for both recruitment firm sg and direct employers! One thing really make me dissapointed is they just want to looking for Singaporean/ SPR to fill those posts! Actually, I got 5 years working experiences.. 2 years from others fields. I'm very interested to the buyer and supply chains jobs but my relevant working experiences in this field is only 3 years!... I received a few calls from US MNC & domestic company in SG, they conducted phone interview with me. But, there's no news from them. I really want to know the salary range offer in SG for those positions!... I know that they are very straight to looking for a candidates to fill those positions! Hope yours can provide some information regarding my case. Thanks.
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Salary wise I don't know because I not in your field.

SG/SPR only is because of the quota for permit for foreigners by the ministry, even they hire you, the ministry don't give permit also no choice. So, don't be sad because of that. Maybe you can try to apply employment pass, like no quota for employment pass.
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QUOTE(JohnJon82 @ Jan 29 2013, 06:35 PM)
Salary wise I don't know because I not in your field.

SG/SPR only is because of the quota for permit for foreigners by the ministry, even they hire you, the ministry don't give permit also no choice. So, don't be sad because of that. Maybe you can try to apply employment pass, like no quota for employment pass.
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Hi John,
Thanks for your valuable information. I know that's impossible to get SPR nowaday. Unless, 3 years ago shouldn't be a problem. Coz my friends also got SPR and it is their company straight away help them to apply SPR. I don't think they will give EP for us nowaday. The most possible should be WP instead of EP. Only engineers may get EP, others fields should be quite hard to get EP. I views those jobs from web or ads almost all looking for SG/ SPR. I could only found 1 or 2 jobs out of 200 jobs stated want to hire SG/SPG/ Malaysian!.... Sad to the MAX!... :'( I believe that their govt is very straight now!... That's why many companies tends to only hire SG/SPR and they do not want to waste so many times to looking for foreigners if get reject by govt!...
By the way, you're working in what industry?
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QUOTE(seantang @ Jan 27 2013, 04:20 PM)
The vast majority of our employees retire at exec to senior exec level. But to be frank, the 'senior exec' salaries in the table would qualify for senior managerial salary in local listed, and director level salaries in SMEs.

Retiring at director's level is pretty good. It's S$500,000++ per annum including bonuses, share options and car allowances. That's as much as many C-suite salaries  (barring the CEO) in the vast majority of SGX companies.
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That's a very competitive remuneration.
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QUOTE(samual8833 @ Jan 29 2013, 08:51 PM)
Hi John,
Thanks for your valuable information. I know that's impossible to get SPR nowaday. Unless, 3 years ago shouldn't be a problem. Coz my friends also got SPR and it is their company straight away help them to apply SPR. I don't think they will give EP for us nowaday. The most possible should be WP instead of EP. Only engineers may get EP, others fields should be quite hard to get EP. I views those jobs from web or ads almost all looking for SG/ SPR. I could only found 1 or 2 jobs out of 200 jobs stated want to hire SG/SPG/ Malaysian!.... Sad to the MAX!... :'( I believe that their govt is very straight now!... That's why many companies tends to only hire SG/SPR and they do not want to waste so many times to looking for foreigners if get reject by govt!...
By the way, you're working in what industry?
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The SG Govt will continue to welcome foreigner. They have just published the White Paper on Population to be tabled in Parliament. In the paper, the SG Govt has a target population of 6.6 to 6.9mil population with almost 30% of non-resident composition. Following this, the the updated Land Use Plan will be released by end of the week.


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QUOTE(JohnJon82 @ Jan 29 2013, 06:35 PM)
Maybe you can try to apply employment pass, like no quota for employment pass.

Company decides what pass to apply for (prospective) employee leh. Employee got no say in the matter.

QUOTE(samual8833 @ Jan 29 2013, 08:51 PM)
I don't think they will give EP for us nowaday. The most possible should be WP instead of EP. Only engineers may get EP, others fields should be quite hard to get EP.

EP criteria isn't that high. degree + $3k/month job and you qualify liao. Considering you've already got 5 years work experience it shouldn't be a problem for you to get a job offer within EP range.

You are right, though, in that many companies won't bother with the trouble of hiring a foreigner unless the foreigner is very skilled or very cheap, etc etc.
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QUOTE(deodorant @ Jan 29 2013, 09:52 PM)
Company decides what pass to apply for (prospective) employee leh. Employee got no say in the matter.
EP criteria isn't that high. degree + $3k/month job and you qualify liao. Considering you've already got 5 years work experience it shouldn't be a problem for you to get a job offer within EP range.

You are right, though, in that many companies won't bother with the trouble of hiring a foreigner unless the foreigner is very skilled or very cheap, etc etc.
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Really,I thought mom to decide what pass to give and has the final say?
Why employer wanna pay extra levy while they can apply EP(zero levy&no quota) for foreigners(with degree qualification)?
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QUOTE(keelim @ Jan 29 2013, 09:51 PM)
The SG Govt will continue to welcome foreigner. They have just published the White Paper on Population to be tabled in Parliament. In the paper,  the SG Govt has a target population of 6.6 to 6.9mil population with almost 30% of non-resident composition. Following this, the the updated Land Use Plan will be released by end of the week.
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Nah, realistically I don't think that is do-able.
I believe it wayang only.
Firstly I don't think SG has the infrastructure in place to cope with 7 million people.
Secondly, PAP knows the general, very strong ill feeling of Singaporeans towards foreigners. The Punggol by-election is a wake up call for them.
Thridly Singapore cannot create that many jobs for both foreigners and singaporeans. And if that happens, the ill feelings of Singaporeans towards foreigners will be intensified

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QUOTE(mercury8400 @ Jan 29 2013, 10:09 PM)
Nah, realistically I don't think that is do-able.
I believe it wayang only.
Firstly I don't think SG has the infrastructure in place to cope with 7 million people.
Secondly, PAP knows the general, very strong ill feeling of Singaporeans towards foreigners. The Punggol by-election is a wake up call for them.
Thridly Singapore cannot create that many jobs for both foreigners and singaporeans. And if that happens, the ill feelings of Singaporeans towards foreigners will be intensified
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i agree with u
even the jams at checkpoint are getting longer by the minute cry.gif
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QUOTE(mercury8400 @ Jan 29 2013, 10:09 PM)
Nah, realistically I don't think that is do-able.
I believe it wayang only.
Firstly I don't think SG has the infrastructure in place to cope with 7 million people.
Secondly, PAP knows the general, very strong ill feeling of Singaporeans towards foreigners. The Punggol by-election is a wake up call for them.
Thridly Singapore cannot create that many jobs for both foreigners and singaporeans. And if that happens, the ill feelings of Singaporeans towards foreigners will be intensified
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Housing, infrastructure and transport are progressively ramped up to support the growing population. Well, at least empirically. On the ground you cant control the general resentment, and this will continue especially amongst the younger ones. Putting things into perspective, the influx has catalyzed cohesion among different races in Singapore and averted the much feared racial tension.

New York is about the size of SG (excl the water catchment) and accommodates 8mil people. It is definitely doable with the verticals.
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QUOTE(keelim @ Jan 29 2013, 10:54 PM)
Housing, infrastructure and transport are progressively ramped up to support the growing population. Well, at least empirically. On the ground you cant control the general resentment, and this will continue especially amongst the younger ones. Putting things into perspective, the influx has catalyzed cohesion among different races in Singapore and averted the much feared racial tension.

New York is about the size of SG (excl the water catchment) and accommodates 8mil people. It is definitely doable with the verticals.
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No.
1. far from fostering cohesion among the different races in SG, the influx of foreigners in SG has stoked the anger, fear and discontent of Singaporeans towards foreigners creating a "us vs them" mentality. Foreigners are blamed for a host of issues including stealing jobs from locals to acting brutish in public.
2. You forget that majority 8 million odd people don't live in new york. A large portion of them live in neighbouring New Jersey but work in New York. There is a difference. Majority of Singaporeans don't/can't/won't live in Johor and work in Singapore

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QUOTE(mercury8400 @ Jan 29 2013, 11:06 PM)
No.
1. far from fostering cohesion among the different races in SG, the influx of foreigners in SG has stoked the anger, fear and discontent of Singaporeans towards foreigners creating a "us vs them" mentality. Foreigners are blamed for a host of issues including stealing jobs from locals to acting brutish in public.
2. You forget that majority 8 million odd people don't live in new york. A large portion of them live in neighbouring New Jersey but work in New York. There is a difference. Majority of Singaporeans don't/can't/won't live in Johor and work in Singapore
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1. I think you misread. The influx has soften the tone on racial tension (among SGreans). On the contrary, it has fostered cohesion among themselves. The common language has been NS. Something we fail to achieve under similar circumstances.

2. That's why in the White Paper there is a segment on livability. Green parks will be enacted and all families will have access to them within 400m. The ultimate design is to connect these parks to ensure the theme "live and work" in the city state is brought out firmly. The red dot is experiencing the same thing with the daily commute by Msians across the border. There is no magic number in the implementation, but merely empirical guidance. If the country is on the verge of succeeding in its water conservation strategy, and being the 1st in the world, we may just be witnessing something of similar scale in population management. It requires no precedence.

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