Wow, you would move back to malaysia just because you wanted more holidays?haha, nice one actually.
btw, singapore public holiday can check here

ahhahaa, i work in sg get msia holis ^^ best of both worlds..

if only u wanted to troll and started the fight

i checked and i hoped they forgot to put up substitue holiday for sunday.
and dont doubt it, some ppl i know do not want to work in sg because of the holidays.

In the organisation I work in, some of the departments have ridiculous naming conventions. Fresh grad right out of college as long as got a degree already "Assistant Manager." Their seniors are "Managers" who then report to "Senior Managers." So by title only Senior Manager but by responsibility and payscale is probably just a junior management position

Job title will benefit the company especially for frontliners in service sector/sales department.

Do you want a fund manager or an executive to manage your equity fund?

nah. just need an insensitive people with some inconsiderate statements to start it all.

Friendships with local can't be bad right? Unless you never spend quality time with your kids since young, else they pick up from their family members more than their teacher and freinds at school. Lingo and school are just small part of it. Upbringing is right at home.

Kids have to learn useful stuff, I don't think learning math and science in BM will do any good. I prefer to retire in MY but kids should freely go to any place that provide the best oppurtunity to them. They have to decide which IC they want to keep by then.

sorry bump back old reply, can i ask how much a month you paying for this?
Will be moving in next month and priority is in gaming, thus really need to know the best package to get else after sign cannot regret

I do not think msia education is a total failure, n I do not think sg education is the best either. We grew up studying recieving msia education. Do we lose out to the sgporeans? , don't think so. We grew learning how to juggle all 3 languages and we turned out just fine. Though saying that, I really do think that sending kids to reputable non Malaysia university is advisable and it is also my only regret. Having said that, sg schools on the other hand provide good quality education till The neglect or rather pay less attention to soft skills and other good qualities like courtesy, humble, respect and stuff which I think n of all, but many Singaporeans lack in.

I will definately send my children to malaysian school if given the choice.
I think malaysia education for us nons are better than SG, if you can manage your kids well.
The things i learn in m'sia is alot more than sg in terms of survival and real life applicable skills and mental preparation for the future mostly on the mentality side

like how we, the nons, fare and compete even though the playing field is not level. Like how despite being discriminated against, spat at and chew up, we still emerge better by working harder.
like how we, the nons, are taught in the hard way that the world is unfair, uncaring, racist and cold. The only way to survive and be come up is to have a siege mentality and hardwork.
like how we take everything anyone says with a pinch of salt and suspicion and we, unlike our sg counterpart, are not easily duped be it by the gov or other people.

some gov agencies are like that as well...

agree wif u to a certain extent..

If you don't mind me asking, when were you last in primary or secondary school? And are you talking about SRK/SMK (Sekolah Kebangsaan) or SRJK/SMJK (Sekolah Jenis Kebangsaan) or SMP (Persendirian)?

If you were a product of the SK, SMKs in the 80s and early 90s like me... you are right. We turned out okay, effectively multi-lingual, good English and reasonable maths & science. But that's when the Chinese and Indian teachers were still around. When there were still non-Malay principals in SKs.

In the mid 80s to early 90s, entire generations of Chinese and Indian teachers retired (those who went to Teacher Training, rather than Maktab Perguruan...). They were replaced entirely by ustazs and ninjas. By the late 90s... you can hardly find a non-Malay teacher in any of the SKs. Only the La Salle, ACS, convent, Methodist schools etc still had non-Malay principals. By now... the teaching faculty is virtually fully mono-racial. 99% of the teachers in SKs can't speak a damn sentence in English (not the kind that normal people can understand anyway). Religion and race permeates all aspects of the SK, despite the fact that there's still 10-30% of students who are non-Muslim, non-Malay and have parents who do not consider themselves to be subservient to tuans.

The SJK Cina are better, not in small part to the donations of Chinese businesses and public... since the entire system of a thousand or so SJK schools in Malaysia receive more or less the same amount of govt ie. tax funding as a SINGLE mono-racial sekolah berasrama penuh or maktab MARA... Tax that barring PETRONAS, the Chinese pay 90% of (according to Mahathir, ya... I'm not making this shit up). The majority of the teachers are Chinese. Many are not very well trained, but they are aware that their job is to teach language, science and math, not indoctrinate or practice their religion or display their racial or linguistic 'maruah'.

The SJK Tamil are... sigh... I pity those guys. Rock and a hard place.

This post has been edited by seantang: Jan 24 2013, 11:47 PM

To be honest, my primary school times was bumpy. I was being penalized by teachers whom were mostly kids fresh from the teachers training academy, at best, 22 or 23 years old. This actually happened because at 1 time I actually challenged my teacher on an exam question, which my teacher refuse to accept my answer even though I'm correct.
Caning during primary school, wad unavoidable for a hyperactive kid like me. Sooner or later, I grew accustomed to it. Do u really think a 22 or 23 year old girl is actually matured enough to handle a class of 40? Think again. Thus usually the case is that some kids will be neglected. But this is part and parcel of growing up, society is tough. And of course, I went to a chinese primary school.

Secondary, I went to smk damansara. Fortunately, the school actually has a fair share of chinese, being in the centre of pj. English was actually part of our teaching medium although the syllybus was totally in malay. Point is to send ur kids to the right school. If u r sending ur kids to mara, dun expect ur kids to be taught in english. I dun mean to be a bit racist but I'm speaking the truth. Its even worse for asrama students. My friend use to tell me that he is forced to stay fit coz of the constant beatings and bullying he gets in the asrama. And yes, if u have friends in such schools, ask them fir verification, they are playing the racial game in the asrama. And yes, I was born in 1985. And yes, although I did not went through ovrseas education and land myself in a high paying job, I do have friends who made their way all the way to oxford and cambridge phd level and they are all part if this system.

One problem that i've observed with Msians from local unis is that they are always in a frog inside the tempurung style mentality. They keep thinking the world is the tempurung, they have this mentality: "I know everything inside the tempurung better than other frogs inside the tempurung so I should be able to compete with other people outisde the tempurung."

While there are certainly some areas for improvement in the SG education system, it is definitely far more advanced than Msia's, speaking from experience.

Not sure if you have really experienced or have the knowledge to compare SG and MY's education system but if you have not this is the exact tempurung style thinking that we Msians should avoid. If we don't have the knowledge to compare, we try not to make concluding remarks.

Also the problem with the Msian language. if you're chinese you know a chinese dialect, english and Malay. Problem with this is you'll probably be a Jack of all languages and a master of none. A student with excellent English results in Msia does not equals to having excellent English language skills in another country.

Sharing my two cents. I've seen many first class honours and top Msia students from local universitites became the bottomline of group interviews at MNCs in SG, AU and even HK.

MY education is not the worst yet and SG is not the best. That's not the point. The question is which is better for your kids.

On languages, you need the environment to master one particular language and my priority is english. Many good SG student learn foreign language as their 3rd Language in school.

I dont recall there was a class to teach you soft skills in MY class room. Rather it is the environment and interaction with people that horn your soft skills. In Malaysia, you have at least 3 races in a class, while in SG you have at least 3 nationalies in class. Both student will mingle with different type of people thus gaining different type of skills.

There are really good students with good character here, I am not worried.

could be true
10 years now since most my peers graduate from the local U,
they were doing ok at the beginning
but like a marathon, the gap is widening now, what they really teach inside there

i am a failure in the MY education system, aggregate 33 pangkat 2 SPM
it was THE END for me at that time
looking back it could have been worst

come to think of it my best buddy din even turn up for the exam
both of us still doing ok in SG, hahah

think MY have a more lenient edu, u fail and still get second shot in life


This post has been edited by ivanswk: Jan 25 2013, 10:03 AM

Me too! But my year don't have the pangkat classification anymore. Sejarah, Moral... don't know what for... Most of the time went smoking in the toilet. Luckily still can get a job here.

If kids are very smart or above average type can benefit more if they study in SG else it is better to study in AUS or MY as the SG system was not design for below average student but things are improving. The most important things for below average kids are self confident and self esteem , hard to get that if they compete in SG school.