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post Dec 14 2012, 10:38 PM

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All taikos out there in SG, I would like to ask a few questions regarding SG, I hope u can help me out. TQ.

I will be starting work in SG in January, so I need to prepare for it now.

1) I plan to get a Note II from a telecom subscriber, may I know which subscriber offers better packages? Starhub or Singtel? From what I know, data plans in Sg actually offers a 2 year contract, is there any 1 that offers 1 yr contract, I fear I might be relocated. Is it better to get an individual line and data plan or rather data and phone line bundled with the phone? Which is more worth it?

2) Are we allowed to ride bicycles on the road like we do in Malaysia? Rather is it safe or more convenient to cycle or walk around in Sg?

3) My friends asked me to be prepared for the cultural shock in Sg, which i don't really get what they mean. Can someone plz explain to me?

4) Is there anything else which I need to be aware when working in Sg?

Thanks for all replies and advices in advance. Tq
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post Dec 18 2012, 01:31 AM

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QUOTE(Dark NT @ Dec 17 2012, 04:45 PM)
Just wanted to share the JPJ extract experience.

I went to request for the letter at Penang (my hometown) JPJ. Paid RM10 for it, and was told that I will be black-listed, however the black list will only last for 2 months, after that we can request any JPJ to "buka black list", and will be able to renew our Malaysian License as usual.

Not sure how true it is (the Buka Black list part). Anybody tried?
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Mind to explain what does JPJ extract means?
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post Dec 18 2012, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(lightwerker @ Dec 18 2012, 09:49 AM)
aihhh sad.gif

Food : Malaysia obviously better so I won't comment much liao
Car : I'm sick of taking the public transportation sad.gif (b4 going to SG I used to work in Cyberjaya, 100% traffic clear.. no jam at all, vrooom highway saja)
Family : they're here
Friends : they're here too
My hse : my big house is so comfortable here sad.gif whereelse in SG I cram myself in a small room sad.gif

my previous company outsource everything to India & China liao and I resigned coz I don't agree with the relocation package and new job role. Currently still job hunting sad.gif

the only thing SG attracts me is the money only sad.gif
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Food : Sg is not much diff compare to M'sia, but even cheaper if u do not convert the currency
Car : No need car in SG. Public transportation in SG is unlike M'sia ones, theirs are much more on time. I seem to find jams in Sg more manageable compare to KL jams.
Family : Definitely in M'sia
Friends : Part of them in M'sia, part of them in Sg
House : Thats the sad part. Double storey house and big room in M'sia, but small HDB room with prices like SGD of 700 and above at prime areas.

Well said that $$ is the only thing that attracts. Which is also the only thing that cased many to actually flock to Sg.
To be honest, if M'sia was doing a little better in its economy, say closing in the currency gap, who'd rather work in Sg compare to our homeland? All of us have no choice but to bear with the Sg cultural shock and the living environment and lifestyle in SG. I've decided to finally make my move after 5 years of working in Malaysia and seeing no future to it. My friends who started out in Sg already has more than SGD 50k savings and I don't even have RM 30k to begin with, many of them are eyeing on property investments in M'sia and I don't even think of owning a property in M'sia. This is so sad.
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post Dec 18 2012, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(lightwerker @ Dec 18 2012, 10:42 AM)
both lo... somehow sg like more prospect.. msia when i ask my frens they said budget on hold this n that (i think due to PRU... they on hold everything sleep.gif )
I brought back the SGDs to msia, can feed family for 6 months i think.
hmm.. i agree with all ur points except the FOOD.... really har SG not much diff sleep.gif are u realllyy sure tongue.gif maybe different food preferences. if u are those jap food lover or western food lover, maybe no prob coz they have high quality stuff there (mostly imported) whereelse their foodcourt food.... msia is much better.. (i always eat foodcourt here, or those kopitiam)... esp a wan tan mee lover like me (every morning wan tan mee + kopi ping) msia is much much better (i wont touch abt BKT yet).

strongly agree on the currency part... if the gap not that wide like now, i might stay ... but with its 2.5x ... very haaardddddd toooooo resisttttttttt.... i think more suitable for freshies.. they should go there after graduate and suffer first but earn the money... me old unker liao baru go, tat's why very tak biasa
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Actually, food courts below the HDB apartments offer cheap food priced at SGD 3/4/5, which are stil ledible if u ask me.

I'm turning 30 soon, still I've decided to go to SG.
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post Dec 18 2012, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(Materazzi @ Dec 18 2012, 12:53 PM)
How come u dont hv 30k rm after worked for 5 yrs? Maybe u already had house here?
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Well, I have a 2nd hand car to begin with, need to pay parents, insurance, handphone, room rental, what else is left?
As an engineer, u will be earning peanuts everywhere in malaysia unless u r in oil and gas.
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post Dec 18 2012, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(Materazzi @ Dec 18 2012, 01:03 PM)
Then why don't you aim the oil and gas?
Engineers are more in demand in singapore than accounting. If you don't have family then go for it.
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Aim is 1 thing, getting it is another. lol
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post Dec 19 2012, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(stevenlee1989 @ Dec 19 2012, 02:42 PM)
Hi, I'm looking for a position in Singapore, would you mind recommend some? I hereby attached my CV for your kind perusal.
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1) Its too long. A good resume should range from between 2-3 pages, spaced out properly for reading comfort.
2) It contains too many unnecessary details, no one wants to know much about ur part time jobs, furthermore no one wants to know ur height.
3) It looked like it had been copied from somewhere, a standard format
4) Is there something wrong with ur graduation date? It states Oct 2013, unless u retake a couple of subjects or extended ur course.
5) Since u grad in software eng. Shouldn't u state what programming softwares that u have knowledge in and description on the projects or tasks that u r involved in.

Bear in mind that we might be harsh on comments but its all for ur good. This resume will either end up in the trash bin or either it will never even see daylight. My advice is, write this resume in the view of the person reading it. eg, interviewer, HR or ur future boss. U will have to express urself to display ur good points and hide ur weak points cleverly, but not cheat. Always ask this question, Why do u think u r worth wat u r demanding for in terms of salary and wat can u do to help the company increase its profit.

All the best.

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post Dec 20 2012, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(stevenlee1989 @ Dec 20 2012, 12:36 PM)
YTL Corperation in KL. smile.gif
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how much did they offer u and wat position?

YTL is a construction based company, for future sake, it might not be the best company to start of with, just my opinion.
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post Dec 27 2012, 11:54 PM

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Will be starting work at Singapore in January 2013, any good advices guys, so that I'm prepared for whats coming?
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post Dec 30 2012, 02:43 AM

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QUOTE(mercury8400 @ Dec 29 2012, 08:26 PM)
Prepare to squeeze into the MRT or bus (unless you drive), prepare to be bored to death if you don't want to leave the island and prepare to line up everywhere you go (be it for food, pay bills, etc). Sometimes quite sickening. But I'm not complaining.
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Well, my work place is just 1 stop away from where i live, so shouldn't be too bad. I was more worried bout the lifestyle and the people instead.
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post Dec 30 2012, 11:18 PM

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A friend once gave me some advice b4 I leave for Sg. He said : Do not treat your M'sia friends who are working in Sg the same way you treat Singaporeans.

Is there really such a big gap between Malaysians and Singaporeans? Is it true that Malaysians will always have a gap with Singaporeans, no matter what? Have anyone met any Singaporeans that do not inherit their darker side of the Singaporean character?
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post Dec 31 2012, 12:26 AM

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Well, most of my friends actually warned me about the cultural shock i'm about to get when i get to singapore, an eye opener instead, but refuse to elaborate more about it, which worries me a lot. Guess I will have to see for myself.

Kiasu is 1, sellfishness is another, bad attitude, likes to complain, well, these are part of the info I've gathered. Partially, I do not really blame them being such for the sheer reason that there are being brought up in such a competitive environment which cultivated them into how they are today. I guess not all singaporeans are the same to begin with, and judging them based a on a few bad examples is simply unfair to the whole lot.
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post Jan 9 2013, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(deodorant @ Jan 9 2013, 03:34 PM)
Yes. Any lower than $7k and you would find your standard of living dropping substantially. Even at 7k there will be some ... lifestyle adjustments you'll need to make (most notably, you'll need to take a downgrade on housing, and you may not be able to afford private transportation).
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Please be realistic. It varies from field to field. Like for engineering (except for o&g) don't even expect anything close to that. Banking and the rest, maybe.
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post Jan 9 2013, 03:55 PM

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Well, sacrifices are a must. 1st thing would be living conditions, decent condo would cost like 1500sgd, with facilities, hdb, which to me is a little better compare to penchala flats, 700sgd. Transportation, driving is quite expensive, have to get used to public transportation. Food, somehow still manageable. Shopping and entertainment actually made me think twice due to the currency exchange. If you were to earn the same salary as in malaysia on a 1:1 ratio, then I would say u can live a better life in sg partially due to the buying power.
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post Jan 10 2013, 08:07 PM

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QUOTE(r1v3r @ Jan 10 2013, 05:36 PM)
Seantang, are your figures monthly salary or annual total package. All the while people focus on (montly salary - local expenses = saving) and they decide their move based on that monthly saving. With more variable component in SG pay structure, I see that our basic grow slower but the variable component become heavier. If you have 100% of your basic salary in My then your total annual package is even better.

If you get 100%, fresh grad and those with less experience should be contented with less than 100% to get a foot in SG.

For the benefit of new comer, shall we combine effort and together some factors to consider before one decide to come over.

1) Monthly Salary
Market rate :
http://eprise6.kellyglobal.net/eprise/main...de2010final.pdf  (MY)
    http://www.lithanhall.com/sapcareers/salar...%20Services.pdf (SG)

These are “projected” figures. Have to cross ref with the IRAS data.

2) Currency and Purchasing Power
http://www.ubs.com/global/en/wealth_manage...s_earnings.html

Beware, the “bundle of basket” for US may not be the same item you want to buy here. Example, it is cheaper to buy roti Canai here than Chicago but apples in US is cheaper than apple in cold storage. One COE alone is S$90k which you can buy several cars in US.
You can adjust your purchase to achieve home ground advantage. The number is just guide.

3) Income Tax
http://www.hasil.gov.my/goindex.php?kump=5...it=5000&sequ=11 (MY)
http://www.iras.gov.sg/irashome/page04.aspx?id=1190 (SG)

Income tax is lower in SG. Example,  S$80k vs RM80k. The income tax is $3300+  vs RM7300+

4) Statistic source (including household income)
(not found yet) (MY)
http://www.singstat.gov.sg/pubn/catalogue.html#hhldincome (SG)

A ref of how typical SG family earn and survive should you decide to bring your family over

5) … lets more to add?
The admin fee for all Pass will increse from 1 Apr 2013. SG Gov is narrowing the door. Unless you are hunted to move over else job seeker shuold be realistic with the offer they get.
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Very comprehensive info u've got there. But from what I see, it all weighs down to allocation of salary based on situation. For example, allocation for a family breadwinner and a single man is diff, likewise a young girl and a working lady, not forgetting those who are holding P1 passes compare to S pass. I personally moved to sg not solely because of the currency exchange only, but rather for the exposure, the experience, and to add credits to my portfolio, after all, sg is still regarded as an international market compare to malaysia.
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post Jan 11 2013, 07:51 PM

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QUOTE(pennyBBT @ Jan 11 2013, 02:21 PM)
Hello everyone,

I am a fresh graduate, majoring in Electrical (Electronic) Engineering. I would like to get a job in sg, preferably O&G industry. Does anyone have "lobang"?
Oh, btw, I graduated from the US, my result is not bad, and I am female. I have been looking for jobs, but haven't heard from any companies yet.... sad.gif kinda depressed.....
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1st of all, results. 2nd, reputable university. 3rd, presentation skills.
Electronics on an overall, I would say its less sought after compare to mechanical and chemical. But, I still see ppl from backgrounds like accounting, IT, finance, business who actually managed to get into oil and gas. I guess u will have to try much harder compare to jobs like semicon, sales and so on.
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post Jan 12 2013, 11:45 PM

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I dun care. I wan cheap rent !!!

Since if I'm not mistaken, to buy a hdb, u will need at least 30% deposit, which at my current state is still very distant from it, I might as well ignore it till I'm capable of doin so and put my time on other problems.
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post Jan 14 2013, 08:40 PM

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QUOTE(yhoong12 @ Jan 14 2013, 09:47 AM)
Actually looking for job in sg cannot say is so hard, it just your resume must review your strength because HR is the one who forward your resume to the hiring manager, if you resume does not catch the eyes of HR, they just browse through only.maybe should redo your resume, simplify it and show what you good at. as for interview presenting yourself, if those strength you put in the resume is done by you, confirm you can present it very well, i also not really good at presenting, just i know my resume very well, then i just presenting it the way i want, as long as the interviewer get the answer they looking for.

cheers, push yourself to the edge of cliff and you will survive.
dont say you cant when you never test yourself. thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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Not really that hard, just send in a good resume and dun flung the interview then u should be ok. And yea, please dun pay too much attention to the pay even though its low and enough for u to survive. After all, what u want is to set foot in sg and when u r steable or steady, then onli u start on moving to a better higher pay job. I've actually gotten a 30% percent pay cut moving to sg, but hey, once I've built up my reputation, even if u dun pay me enough, I'll find another better paying job.
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post Jan 15 2013, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(yhoong12 @ Jan 15 2013, 04:02 PM)
If you own a posb saving account, the posb go atm card they given got the mastercard functionality inside thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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Thats debit card
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post Jan 16 2013, 10:43 PM

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QUOTE(deodorant @ Jan 16 2013, 01:03 PM)
Since you already found your new room and not using your old room, just curious why do you need to be so difficult to the owner / tenant? Let them open the room to paint it no loss to you also mah.
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From my guess, he hasn't finished moving yet. Actually, depends on contract. Like mine, its stated if landlord wants to fix something or do small repairs, I would need to allow landlord to access my room, dat is of course with my supervision. To be honest, even its a sublet unit, a contract can still be signed. Rental agreement and contracts template are not that hard to find. But about the legality part, I'm not sure about that, but its still better than nothing.

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