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post Sep 11 2012, 09:33 AM, updated 7 months ago

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This thread is to address a particular investment in Singapore REITS or S-REITS

The very basic things we should consider when investing in REITs are non other than DPU and yield.

DPU
DPU, the Distribution per Unit, is how much dividend we get for every unit/share of the REIT. This information can be easily found in the SGX portal @ www.sgx.com, under "Listed Companies" -> "Corporation Action". Example select CapitaMall Trust for Company Name, select Dividend for the Category. Following is what you should see for the DPU since January 2009 for CapitaMall Trust (CMT):



For SREITs, the DPU is given either quarterly (4 times per year) or semi-annually (2 times per year). From the above table, base on the Dates of Expiry or Date Payable, we can see that CapitaMall Trust distributes the DPU every quarter. Following are the details of the SREITs distribution frequency:


REIT Frequency of Distribution
AscendasReit -Quarterly
AIMSAMPIReit - Quarterly
AscottReit - Semi-Annually around Jul and Jan period.
Cache - Quarterly
Cambridge - Quarterly
CapitaComm - Semi-Annually around Jul and Jan period.
CapitaMall - Quarterly
CapitaRChina - Semi-Annually around Jul and Jan period.
CDL H-Trust - Semi-Annually around Jul and Jan period.
FirstREIT - Quarterly
Fortune (HK cents)- Semi-Annually around Jul and Jan period.
FrasersComm - Semi-Annually around Oct and Apr period.
FrasersCT - Quarterly
K-Reit - Semi-Annually around Jul and Jan period.
LippoMapleTrust - Quarterly
MapleTreeLog - Quarterly
PLife - Quarterly
Saizen - Semi-Annually around Jul and Jan period.
Saban - Quaterly
Starhill Gbl - Quarterly
Suntec - Quarterly




Yield
Yield is the annualised DPU divided by the share price. Annualised DPU means how much DPU we can get for the whole year. The usual practice in calculation of annualised DPU is to take the latest DPU and mulitply by number of distributions per year, i.e. X 4 for quarterly distribution, X 2 for semi-annual distribution.
Of course there are variations to the way in calculating yield. For a REIT giving a stable and consistent amount of DPU, the above method should be accurate. For a REIT with widely varying DPU every distribution, you may add up all the distributions per year, or half a year than multipy by 2, to get a more accurate estimate of the annualized DPU. From observation, the DPU of SREIT is fairly stable, with very little % variable QoQ, other than when there is a rights issue in which the DPU is diluted, or when a troubled REIT temporarily cuts the DPU.

Distributable Income
The DPU is derived from the distributable income of a REIT. The distributable income is how much cash the REIT is able to distribute. Now there is a subtle difference between the REIT and a normal company in terms of dividend payment. For a normal company, it may pay out a certain percentage of its net profit as dividend. But net profit may not consist of purely cash earnings, as some earnings that are posted as profit may not be cash income, example increase in valuation of a property. Similarly, decrease in valuation of a property may be posted as a loss in the calculation of net profit, but it does not mean a loss of cash. For REITs, the distributable income is derived from its cash earnings, so technically it is possible for a REIT to post a net loss when the decrease in valuation of its properties is much more than the rental income, and yet it is still able to have a postive distributable income.

The distributable income statement can be determined from the quartly earnings report of the REIT. You can get the quarterly report from the SGX portal, under "Listed Companies" -> "Company Announcements". Select "Last 3 Months" for the Announcement Period, and say for example "CapitaMall Trust" for the Company Name. Look out for something along the line of "MISCELLANEOUS :: 2009 THIRD QUARTER UNAUDITED FINANCIAL STATEMENT & DISTRIBUTION ANNOUNCEMENT".

Once you get hold of the report, look for the "Statement of Total Return & Distribution Statement". The Distribution Statement will tell you how much cash is available for distribution (Amount available for distribution to Unitholders), and how much cash is actually paid out for that quarter (Distributable income to Unitholders). The Distributable income to Unitholders divided by the total number of units/shares of the REIT will give you the DPU. The total number of units in issue by the REIT can be found out in the same report. Look for Total issued and issuable Units as at end of period under Details of any change in the issued and issuable Units.

By MAS regulation, a REIT is supposed to give out at least 90% of its amount available for distribution to Unitholders. Currently most of the REITs are giving out 100%, and as far as I know CDL HTrust has cut its distribution to 90% since early this year.

Of course there are other indicators such as NAV, Gearing, etc. Please pop into the following useful site.


http://sreitinvestor.blogspot.com/2009/11/...dpu-and_13.html

Witholding Taxes- As far as i know, if the REIT distributes at least 90% of its Distributable Income, there is NO withholding taxes
for individuals with regards to S-REITS, making it more attractive than M-REITS.


For news

http://sreit.reitdata.com/

For updated investment Data Summary

http://reitdata.com/


DISCUSS AND ENJOY! biggrin.gif


Added on September 11, 2012, 9:34 amREITs – Phillip

5 September 2012
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Results Season Takeaways


Sector Overview


The Real Estate Investment Trust (REIT) Sector in our Singapore coverage consists of 23 REITs listed on Singapore exchange with a market capitalization of USD35 billion.

Majority of S-REITs turned in positive DPU

S-REIT’s dividend yield of 5.5% is less appealing than a quarter ago and there is limited upside given rich valuation based on +1 STD of P/B ratio


Earnings Surprise?


Across the S-REITs universe, majority of them turned in positive DPU. Negative rental reversion was not the main reason for the dip in DPU. The drag in DPU was caused by some other factors such as divestment of property assets, issuance of new units, on-going major asset enhancement works and amongst others.


Under our coverage, the DPU estimates for CDL HT, PLife REIT and Sabana REIT were largely in-line, forming 49%, 51% and 50% of our FY12 projections.


Capital management outlook

The variable-rate loans that are pegged to swap offer rates maintained flat

Liquidity is expected to remain healthy at current loan-to-deposit ratio (LDR) level of 91.9%

Financial position of REITs looks healthy, with comfortable gearing and longer weighted average debt to maturity


Recommendation


P/B ratio has progressively moved towards +1 SD and it had served as a strong resistance level for the past four years. From our viewpoint, it is going to be an uphill struggle to break above +1 STD. Given there is no major negative shocks from the western countries, P/B ratio should hover around this level as the current situation is not much better compared to two years before, undermined by lingering Euro debt problems and anaemic US growth.


For investors with mid- to long- term horizon, they may want to place their bet on Suntec REIT which is undergoing major makeover (phase 1-4) at Suntec City, stretching from Jun-12 to 2014. In this regard, return on investment from the refurbishments is likely to stream in in staggered phases. The tax savings from MBFC Phase I and potential ORQ could make up the loss for the drop in vacancy. Valuation is also undemanding and trading at a steep discount of 26.5% relative to Mapletree Commercial Trust (MCT) and Starhill Global REIT.


Added on September 11, 2012, 9:38 amSingapore REITs Yield World’s Best Returns: Southeast Asia

By Pooja Thakur - Sep 5, 2012 9:29 AM GMT+0800

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-09-04/s...heast-asia.html

Singapore’s real estate investment trusts, the best performing in the world this year, are luring investors after a shopping spree for properties across Asia gives them a broader stream of rental income.

Singapore’s $38 billion REIT market has returned an average 37 percent in 2012, twice the gains in the U.S., U.K. and Japan, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. Australia, the largest REIT market in the Asia-Pacific region with $86 billion, advanced 24 percent.

Growth among Singapore REITs was led by asset acquisitions and rental appreciation, with total rental revenue increasing 5.8 percent annually between 2008 and 2011, according to property broker CBRE Group Inc. In the first half, Singapore REITs were the second-most active purchasers after Japan in Asia, buying assets in Australia, China, Japan, Malaysia and South Korea, and accounting for 33 percent of acquisitions by the region’s REITs since 2009, CBRE said.

“Singapore remains amongst the last few AAA rated economies,” Priyaranjan Kumar, Singapore-based regional director of the capital markets group at broker Cushman & Wakefield, said in an interview. “Its real estate market has received unprecedented attention from most investors as it’s seen to offer a good proxy for the increasingly recognized strength of the Asian consumer.”

The gap between their yield and interest rates is double that in Australia, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. Property trusts in the island-state offer an average 413 basis- point income return premium relative to 10-year government bonds, while in Australia they average 192 basis points, data compiled by Bloomberg showed. A basis point is 0.01 percentage point.

Game Change

Singapore’s REITs have a dividend yield of 6.47 percent, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. That compares with to 4.97 percent in Hong Kong and 5.01 percent in Australia.

Economic growth in the Southeast Asian island-nation across the Johor Strait from Malaysia will probably accelerate to 3.9 percent next year from 2.7 percent in 2012, the International Monetary Fund forecast in its World Economic Outlook report in April. The advanced economies, including the U.S. and U.K., are estimated to expand 2 percent in 2013.

“The game has changed from capital appreciation to capital preservation,” Tim Gibson, a Singapore-based fund manager for Asia-Pacific property equities at Henderson Global Investors, said.

Budget Surplus

Singapore boasts the world’s biggest budget surplus relative to economic output, adding to demand for its currency as Europe’s fiscal woes roil global markets, the IMF said. The Singapore dollar is the best performer this year after the Philippine peso among the 11 most-traded Asian currencies tracked by Bloomberg. Singapore is one of seven nations with AAA ratings and stable outlooks from Moody’s Investors Service, Standard & Poor’s and Fitch Ratings.

Tax incentives, which include exemptions on foreign income received by Singapore-listed REITs and distributing at least 90 percent of their income as dividends to unit holders, also helped boost demand.

Singapore offers a pipeline of assets from developers, a fair regulatory environment and a base of international investors and quality sponsors, Jason Kern, Hong Kong-based managing director and head of real estate and lodging advisory for Asia-Pacific at HSBC Holdings Plc, said in an interview. A sponsor is a developer with a stake in the REIT and whose properties form the trust’s pipeline of assets to be purchased.

Outperforming Stocks

“Coming out of the global financial crisis, investors have focused on transparent, predictable markets with sustainable income profiles,” Cushman’s Kumar said.

Singapore REITs also have a liquid secondary market, low transaction costs, and low leverage compared with Japan and other large REIT markets, Kumar added.

Four of the top 10 best-performing REITs with assets of more than $250 million in the region are from Singapore, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. Including dividend yields, Frasers Commercial Trust (FCOT) has returned 58 percent this year, AIMS AMP Capital Industrial REIT 48 percent, and Keppel Land Ltd.’s K-REIT Asia (KREIT) 46 percent.

Singapore REITs have outperformed the city-state’s benchmark Straits Times Index, which has climbed 13 percent this year. The 10-year government bond yield in Singapore was 1.38 percent as of Aug. 29. Adjusted for inflation, Singaporean savers currently receive a negative real return on their savings of 4.79 percent.

Market Recovery

The REIT market in the Asia-Pacific region is worth $205 billion, more than before the global financial crisis, according to the Asia Pacific Real Estate Association. European REITs are below the levels before the crisis, while North America, the world’s largest REIT market, has seen assets climb 82 percent from December 2007, the data showed.

Singapore is the region’s third-largest REIT market after Australia and Japan’s $45 billion, according to data compiled by Bloomberg.

The real estate market in Singapore recovered sharply after the first quarter of 2009, with prime rents and capital values increasing in excess of 60 percent over lows during the global financial crisis, according to New York-based Cushman.

Total investment turnover for Asian REITs reached US$7 billion during the first six months of the year, a 14 percent decline from the second half of 2011, on concerns over the eurozone debt crisis and the weaker outlook for the regional economy, Los Angeles-based CBRE said.

More Selective

“Although Asian REITs are expected to remain in buying mode, they will likely turn more selective towards future acquisitions, with yield enhancement and insulation from the global economic slowdown emerging as important criteria,” CBRE analysts Ada Choi and Leo Chung wrote in a report on Asia’s REIT market last month.

Earnings growth, or distribution per unit of Singapore REITs, will slow to 4 percent in the two years ending 2014, with the previous highs of a 13 percent growth rate between 2006 and 2008 appearing unachievable, Singapore-based analysts, led by Derek Tan, at DBS Group Holdings Ltd. said in an Aug. 21 note. Maturing portfolios will add to slowing growth, Tan said.

The outlook for Singapore’s commercial-leasing segment is becoming more challenging and the funding environment is likely to become more volatile over the next two years, Standard & Poor’s credit analyst Wee Khim Loy said in a note on Aug. 2. A dislocation in the credit markets may cause significant financial stress because the trusts rely on bank funding, the rating company said. Leverage levels of most office REITs could become weak if property values decline by as much as 10 percent, it said, maintaining a negative outlook for the office segment.

Uncertain Outlook

Still, Singapore REITs are well placed to weather tight operating conditions as the trusts have increased their financial flexibility and diversified their funding sources, the rating company said.

There remains ample room for future growth in REITs as prime rents remain 25 percent to 30 percent off their peak in the second quarter of 2008, Kumar said. At current yields, Singapore REITs are attractive for investors looking for total returns, he said.

“There are a lot of uncertainties in terms of economic outlook, so investors are actually looking for stability, defensive earnings,” Eddy Loh, a Singapore-based equity strategist for Asia at Barclays Plc, said in a phone interview. “Coupled with the fact that we still have a very low interest rate environment and the dividend yields for some of these REITs can go up 6 percent to 7 percent that seems to be very attractive to investors actually.” Loh is advising clients to bet on industrial and retail REITs.

REIT IPOs

The three-month Singapore Interbank Offered Rate is at an all-time low of just under 0.4 percent, compared with a peak of 3.56 percent in 2006, according to data compiled by Bloomberg.

The performance of real estate trusts is prompting a flurry of initial share sales by REITs that may top $2 billion, with as many as six companies planning to list their assets, according to HSBC’s Kern. That’s the most since 2010 when Singapore REITs raised $4.13 billion, according to data compiled by Bloomberg.

Ascendas Hospitality Trust (ASHT) raised about S$459 million ($369 million) in July, while Far East Organization, Singapore’s biggest closely held developer, drew S$717.6 million in an initial share sale of a hotel trust last month.

“If we think we are five years through a lost decade from a global economic standpoint, then we will see money flowing into REITs as people will continue to chase yields,” Gibson said. “Unless we see interest rates increasing at any point in time, then that will stop the party, but I don’t think you need to be dancing too close to the door just yet.”

To contact the reporter on this story: Pooja Thakur in Singapore at pthakur@bloomberg.net

To contact the editor responsible for this story: Andreea Papuc at apapuc1@bloomberg.net


Added on September 11, 2012, 9:47 amSREITs – Kim Eng

10 September 2012



The allure of S-REITs


Gravity Defying: Highest Yield-Spreads and Returns Globally.

S-REITs has risen 28.7% YTD, outperforming even major REITs markets such as US, Australia and Japan etc

We pointed out that S-REITs has one of the highest yield spreads globally in our previous report dated 3 Sep 2012. We took a deeper look at global/regional peers and below are our assumptions and proposed theses why this may be the case:


Why Asian REITs have much higher yield spreads.

The Asian REITs (S-REITs, J-REITs, and HK-REITs, excluding M-REITs), outperformed the non-Asian REITs (US-REITs, UK-REITs, A-REITs) in terms of yield spreads partly due to higher borrowing costs in the West (consequence of US/European deleveraging) and Australia.

With the exception of M-REITs, the Asian REITs incur average cost of borrowing (sector average) of ~1.5%-3.1%, much lower than the 5.5%-6.9% expensed by non-Asian REITs.

We noted that despite risk-free rates being low in the US (1.7%) and UK (1.8%), the actual borrowing costs to companies on the ground are relatively higher, compared to Asia. Western banks have become parsimonious in their lending vis-à-vis the robust loan growth situation amongst Asian banks.

From our observations, A-REITs and UK-REITs have average cost of borrowings much higher than normalized1cap rates, rendering DPU yields to be trading near cap-rates levels. As a result, yield spreads are much lower in comparison. For US-REITs, the high borrowing costs are partly offset by their higher cap rates, but this is still insufficient to cover the 178-211 bps yield spread lag behind Asian REITs (excluding M-REITs).

In M-REITs case, both the cost of borrowing and risk free rates are much higher than S-REITs, J-REITs and HK-REITs, resulting in much lower yield spreads.


What gives S-REITs the edge over other Asian REITs.


Higher Capitalization Rates:

On a sector basis, Singapore has relatively higher normalised2 cap rates (net property income that can be extracted per annum for each S$ dollar invested in investment properties), compared to Hong Kong and Japan.

For example in HK, cap rates (net basis) for prime office and prime retail buildings on a stabilized basis are around 3%-3.5% and 3.5%-4% respectively. However, in Singapore, cap rates for prime office and prime retail properties are at least 4.0% and 5.0% respectively.

This enables S-REITs to offer DPU yields of ~6% without trading at price-to-book discount (1.07x PBR). On the other hand, in order to offer DPU yields of ~5%, HK-REITs and J-REITs have to trade at ~0.8x PBR.


Unlikely interest rates hike until end 2014:

The MAS manages the Sing dollar’s strength by buying or selling currencies to keep its exchange rate against major currencies within a policy band, and by adjusting the band occasionally to steer the exchange rate. This FX-centred monetary policy regime means that Singapore’s short-term interest rates are essentially a function of US short-term interest rates.

Most economists do not expect any significant interest rates hike until end of 2014, following the US Fed’s intent to keep short-term interest rates near zero till then. If correct, this would imply that the cost of borrowings for S-REITs (some pegged to SIBOR) will stay at current low levels through 2012-2014.


Others reasons:

The strong SGD, chasing yields climate and lack of investable alternatives in the market are other factors providing price support for S-REITs. Investors are also drawn to the transparency and predictability of S-REIT dividends, particularly in the midst of the external market uncertainty



Yields can compress another 70-90 bps (Peak Valuations).


S-REITs are presently trading at 5.9% FY12 yield and a yield spread of 463 bps. We think there is downside room for another 70-90 bps compression in view of the following two reasons:

The S-REITs’ average and stabilized long-term yield spread (excluding the GFC period) is around ~370 bps.

The effective cap rate for S-REITs is around 5.3%. If we take cap rates as the floor for FY12 DPU yield (since overall S-REITs sector trading at P/B of ~1x), there is another 70 bps for yields to be compressed further.


A yield-spread compression of another 70-90 bps equates to an average price appreciation of 13%-19% for the sector.


Maintain OVERWEIGHT on S-REITs.

We conducted a 2QCY12 results round-up and target price update for S-REITs under our coverage. Most S-REITs reported 2QCY12 distributable incomes that were in-line with our forecasts. Moving forward, we expect DPU growth of 1.4%-9.6% per annum over FY11-FY13F (except Suntec REIT which will likely suffer DPU decline due to ongoing refurbishments at Suntec City).

Our top BUYS remain with the more defensible industrial and retail REITs with total returns of 10%-17%. We think their risk-reward proposition still appear favorable to yield-driven investors. Maintain OVERWEIGHT on the overall S-REITs sector.

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http://fifthperson.com/5-important-factors...st-in-any-reit/


If you’re looking for passive income, then investing in stocks that pay you a stable and growing dividend is something that you need to keep your eye open for. In that vein, REITs are great investments if you plan to invest for stable, passive income. Why so?

Firstly, REITs (or real estate investment trusts), as their name suggests, invest in real estate. And in land-scarce Singapore, property in general makes for a great long-term investment. Our country is also safe, politically stable, and well run (although some of us would disagree!) which means the value of our real estate is likely to hold and appreciate over time. And although many of our REITs also invest in assets overseas, most of them own properties that are mainly located in Singapore.
Secondly, REITs pay a high dividend yield. There are currently 35 REITs listed in Singapore with an average dividend yield of 7.5% (as at Feb 2016). With the current market downturn, some REITs have yields as high as 10% right now! One of the main reasons why REITs offer such high yields is because they enjoy tax-exempt status as long they pay out at least 90% of taxable income to shareholders. The tax breaks and high payouts mean higher yields for investors. The recent 2015 Singapore budget extended tax breaks for REITs for another five years.
Thirdly, REITs also pay their dividends (or distributions) four times a year. In comparison, a typical company usually only pays dividends once or twice a year. So if you’re an investor who wants to receive a steady, regular stream of passive income throughout the entire year, REITs will do very well for you.
So now that we’ve established that REITs offer a high, steady stream of passive income for investors, what are the important factors you need to look at before you invest in any particular REIT?

Here are five important factors you need to consider:

#1 Type of Industry
Not all REITs are made the same. Singapore REITs fall into six broad categories: office, retail, residential, healthcare, hospitality, and industrial. Each sector has its own specific characteristics that will affect a REIT’s growth, risk profile, and performance.

For example, office REITs like CapitaCommercial Trust, own office buildings. During a bull economy, businesses do well and demand for office space is high. This translates to higher rents and property income for the REIT. During a recession, the chips fall the other way – some businesses go bust, demand tumbles and office rents fall in tandem. The economic cycle largely affects the performance of an office REIT.

On the other hand, retail REITs like Starhill Global own shopping malls. Even in times of recession, many malls are usually still packed with shoppers and shop spaces are fully tenanted. Demand for retail space remains high which means rents and property income for the REIT barely drop.



All things equal, investing in a retail REIT is less volatile than investing in an office REIT. Of course, investors are aware of this and hence generally willing to pay higher prices for a retail REIT which lowers your dividend yield.

#2 Dividend Yield
This is probably the first ratio that every investor looks for when investing for dividends. While everyone enjoys a high dividend yield, what’s more important is to examine a REIT’s dividend track record.

Does a REIT pay a stable or rising dividend per share (or distributions per unit) year after year? Or does it tend to fluctuate every year?

A REIT that’s able to steadily grow its income and dividend per share year after year is understandably a more attractive investment than a REIT whose dividend payouts fluctuate all the time.



A REIT with a higher dividend yield doesn’t necessarily mean that it’s a “better” investment. For example, an office REIT usually has higher yields compared to a retail REIT, but office REITs are also more volatile and less resilient than retail REITs.

#3 Property Yield
Property yield is the amount of income a REIT can generate from a property. For example, if a property is worth 10 million dollars and earns $400K in rent in one year, then its property yield is 4%. Understandably, the higher the yield, the better. But what’s more important is to examine whether a REIT’s property yield is stable or rising over the years. A well-managed REIT will look for ways to continually improve its property yield.



One common way for a REIT to improve its property yield is to acquire yield-accretive properties. For example, if a REIT’s property yield is 4% and it acquires a new property that generates a 5% yield, the new acquisition will help to increase the REIT’s overall property yield.

#4 Gearing Ratio
Gearing ratio represents a REIT’s amount of debt over its total assets. The higher the ratio, the more debt a REIT has.

In Singapore, REITs are tightly regulated and only allowed to borrow up to 45% of their total assets. So if a REIT owns a billion dollars in assets, it can only borrow up to $450 million in loans. A REIT can borrow the money to fund new acquisitions for growth, upgrade its buildings, etc.


The lower the gearing ratio, the more conservative a REIT is. At the same time, a high gearing ratio does not necessarily mean that a REIT is a poor investment – it just means that a REIT is willing to take on more debt (and risk) for growth.

#5 P/B Ratio
P/B ratio measures a REIT’s share price against its net asset value (NAV) per share. Theoretically, a P/B ratio of 1 indicates a fair valuation. A ratio above 1 means a REIT is overvalued and a ratio below 1 means it is undervalued.

For example, if a REIT’s share price is $1 and its NAV per share is $2, then its P/B is 0.5 – essentially you’re only paying 50 cents for every dollar of net assets.



In practice though, you shouldn’t simply rely on P/B alone to value a REIT. Other important factors, like the ones we’ve discussed above and more, must also be taken into consideration when choosing to invest in a REIT.

While REITs in general are great investments for dividends, not all REITs are equal – it’s important to pick only the best-managed REITs that are able to pay you a long-term growing dividend and appreciate in value over time.

QUOTE(TOS @ Jun 11 2021, 10:40 PM)
Hello.

- Price is a function of supply and demand. You are right that since supply is limited the equilibrium price should be high, but demand plays its role too. Also, how price behaves depends on market structure. Is it perfect competition, monopolistic competition, oligopoly or monopoly?

Generally as land is limited, while SG's population growing, investors attracted by its various offerings, high demand and low supply, price will go up. But in the long run supply and demand side are rather elastic, so it's hard to tell. No one has a magic crystal ball after all. Things may change for the better or the worse.

- REITs are income-oriented vehicles, so dividend yields are prime consideration for many. Capital growth comes with increasing AUM, and factors like inclusion in indices, liquidity etc. Overall, both capital growth and dividend income play important roles and how they are distributed depends on the asset classes, AUM and liquidity. REITs with new economy asset classes, fast-growing AUM and higher margins tend to have higher capital gain components in total return and hence low yield. But as they mature, the capital gain component vanishes but the yield rises. 

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Minimum target really depends on industry/asset classes/AUM/sponsor. Blue chip REITs generally large/mid-caps tend to have lower yields and after adding capital gain, total return on par with typical blue chips stocks. Small-caps have higher yields but that also mean higher risk. Risk here refers to refinancing risk. REITs are highly leveraged, and in the event of downturn, there is a higher chance that banks don't want to refinance their loans, with small-caps the most vulnerable to this. So higher yields mean higher risk. Other factors to consider are sponsors (Temasek/GLC-linked?, or IHH). Sponsors with poor reputation/quality may require higher risk premium to compensate. Hence higher yields. Certain asset classes have higher yields than others, say PBSA, while new economy assets can have lower yields, say data centers.

6% would be a typical yield for a mid-cap or the large ones in the small-cap space. Blue chips ones can range for the low 3-4% like Keppel DC/Parkway LIFE to 5% like Ascendas REIT. Small-caps can go up to 7-8% as seen in major US office REITs.

- Yes, different REITs have different strategies. Some concentrate on certain areas like Ascendas mainly focuses in SG while a small portion is invested in developed markets. Some entirely invest outside of SG, say Elite Commercial (entirely UK government properties), or Cromwell EU REIT (all EU properties). US Office REITs, as the name suggest focus on US office assets. They include KORE, MUST, and Prime US REIT. There can also be mixed REITs that do not have any particular restriction on geographical exposure. In general, it's the trust deed that stipulates the geographical limitations, it's up to the REIT's management and investors to decide the geographical locations of the assets.

- Criteria for blue chips: (Not all are needed in order to qualify for a blue-chip)

1. Scale/AUM: Large cap or mid-cap, large number of properties, diversified tenant base
2. Liquidity: Included in major indices, high turnover/volume, easily buy and sell with little influence to market 
3. Track record: Increasing dividends over, long run, generally positive long-run trend
4. Sponsors: Who are the major shareholders? Are they GLCs in SG? ROFR pipelines available?
5. Yields: Generally low to medium, low not because they are worthless, but because they are growing or command higher premium due to their stability.
6. P/BV: Higher price to book value, somewhat growth-oriented or stable, only 2 REITs fit into this criteria, Parkway LIFE and Keppel DC.

Please don't forget your investment. REITs, especially blue-chip ones, almost always have EFR, equity fund raising annually to purchase new properties and investors should subscribe to them. Otherwise your investment will be diluted over time. As they can purchase properties anytime in a year, constant monitoring is needed.

-Not qualified to answer anything Moomoo-related. You can ask here though: https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5135077/+140

Malaysians access SREITs via foreign brokers in general, like TSG/Moomoo that you have. Some buy via Syfe (https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4969696/+80). Other avenues include indirect investment via various ETFs like STI ETFs, SREIT ETFs. Or actually if you are "rich" enough, and has less risk appetite, you can buy SREIT bonds too. https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=5020731

Lastly have a look at some of the links and resources I posted here: https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry99272404
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kudos to prophet !!!! but not many vested in Sreit,, not so crowded over here ...... see singapore shares thread only few were active ........ hmm.gif anyway will check on this thread more often, lastly thanks for all the news posting ...... notworthy.gif
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Finally there is a thread on singapore reit. Will come here more often.
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kudos to prophet !!!! but not many vested in Sreit,, not so crowded over here ...... see singapore shares thread only few were active ........ hmm.gif anyway will check on this thread more often, lastly thanks for all the news posting ...... notworthy.gif
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Looks like we are still the few! biggrin.gif

Anyway the purpose is to inform others know theres another REIT out there.
Maybe with better rewards? biggrin.gif


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Welcome.

i will try to update the news.

However, you guys have to post so that there is a BUMP* on the thread.
Otherwise it will disappear into oblivion! biggrin.gif

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hi sifu-sifu
i am attracted by that 5%+ DY, "defensive" nature and no tax part ..

if newbie like me wants to buy these S-Reits .. how do i go about it ?
(the only thing i have is a Hong Leong E-broking account .. )



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hi sifu-sifu
i am attracted by that 5%+ DY, "defensive" nature and no tax part ..

if newbie like me wants to buy these S-Reits .. how do i go about it ?
(the only thing i have is a Hong Leong E-broking account .. )
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i think the killer part is the cost of trading shares overseas. the exchange rate, tradings fees, stamp duties etc...

all these cost might constitute a few % of your capital, unless you have big capital to invest
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i think the killer part is the cost of trading shares overseas. the exchange rate, tradings fees, stamp duties etc...

all these cost might constitute a few % of your capital, unless you have big capital to invest
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i sugggest that in buying REITs we tend to HOLD for the passive income from DPUs

In my trading S-REITs my total cost per trade is around

a) Brokerage - 0.6%
b)Stamp Duty - 0.1%
c) Clearing fee - 0.03%
d) Misc cost - Rm50

Total Approx cost = 1%

Unless you are actively trading the stocks, its nota real concern.

Compare the yields from M-REITS ....6%(before tax)

Vs S-REITs - There are quite a few still offering more than 7% DPU.

As for exchange rate, ONE of the purposes in buying singapore shares is i believe our Ringgit will continue to
DEpreciate against the SGD in the long term.


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Do you need open sg bank account for reit to bank in dividend?
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so we can trade S-REIT when the link connected?
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Hi good to have a dedicated thread for S REIT. Only started SREIT investment few months ago, and so far giving already >10% paper profit excluding dividens. Anyway I am not concerned abt the paper profit since I am in for a long period and gunning for stable passive income like many REiTs investors

One question, i am using itrade CIMB. Recently when i received dividens for Q2/2012, I see that for every counter, I was deducted SGD10 from the dividen i received. Eg: if I receive SGD100 for my Suntec REIT, I got only nett SGD90 into my account. Similarly goes for other REiTs, 10 bucks is deducted from the dividen received. So if i have total 10 REIT, i got charged 10 bucks x 10 = 100 bucks flat every quarter

What is that 10 bucks for? Is it common for other brokerage firm as well? Pls advise, thx

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Hi good to have a dedicated thread for S REIT. Only started SREIT investment few months ago, and so far giving already >10% paper profit excluding dividens. Anyway I am not concerned abt the paper profit since I am in for a long period and gunning for stable passive income like many REiTs investors

One question, i am using itrade CIMB. Recently when i received dividens for Q2/2012, I see that for every counter, I was deducted SGD10 from the dividen i received. Eg: if I receive SGD100 for my Suntec REIT, I got only nett SGD90 into my account. Similarly goes for other REiTs, 10 bucks is deducted from the dividen received. So if i have total 10 REIT, i got charged 10 bucks x 10 = 100 bucks flat every quarter

What is that 10 bucks for? Is it common for other brokerage firm as well? Pls advise, thx
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is common as for my OSK brokerage firm ...... same charges for administration...... nod.gif

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which is the most cost effective SG trading and banking account to open

as long as decent services i.e. can access quite easily from Msia

Dont plan to remove funds from there so exchange rate will incur only during initial placement
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STILL HOT ON PORTFOLIO MANAGEMENT ACTIVITIES

Healthy debt maturity profile

Increased investment activity

Subsector yield remains attractive


Active capital management


Industrial landlords continue to be very engaged in their capital management activities. For 3Q to-date, we note that two industrial REITs, namely AIMS AMP Capital Industrial REIT and Mapletree Industrial REIT, had announced the issuance of fixed-rate notes, while Sabana REIT had entered into a financing agreement for S$258.6m additional Commodity Murabaha facilities. Based on our understanding, the proceeds from these issuances will be used to refinance part of their existing borrowings. This is in line with our view that the industrial REIT subsector’s debt maturity profile will remain healthy, with limited refinancing risks in the near term.


Pickup in acquisition activity


We also observe that there was a pickup in investment activity during the period. The most active REIT was Cambridge Industrial Trust, which announced the proposed acquisitions of Teban Gardens Crescent, 30 Marsiling Industrial Estate Road 8, and 11 Woodlands Walk for an aggregate consideration of S$97.3m. With just days to the close of 3Q, we estimate that the total subsector acquisition value for 3Q will be at S$182.9m. This significantly exceeds the S$66.0m acquisition size clocked in 2Q, albeit still lower than the S$678.2m value registered in 1Q. We are currently maintaining our view that the subsector acquisition activity is likely to be skewed more towards smaller REITs. We also believe that further acquisitions in the industrial space may possibly involve a combination of debt and equity, given that the subsector aggregate leverage is set to increase after funding committed acquisitions. In addition, some REITs (e.g. Ascendas REIT and Mapletree Logistics Trust) have also turned to capital recycling via divestments to enhance their portfolio returns, in line with our expectations.


Maintain OVERWEIGHT


We are retaining our OVERWEIGHT view on the industrial REIT subsector due to its high yields (7.0-7.1% for FY12-13F) and growth potential. Cache Logistics Trust remains our preferred pick, given its robust portfolio, healthy financial position and attractive forward DPU yield of 7.1%.


Added on September 28, 2012, 9:35 amOffice REITs – OCBC

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RENTAL DECLINES LIKELY SLOWING IN 3Q12

Rental decline likely slowing in 3Q12

Limited supply till 2H13

Maintain OVERWEIGHT




Office rentals decline likely to slow in 3Q12


We believe the office rentals are likely to show a more subdued dip in 3Q12 after three consecutive quarters of declines since 3Q11. Over 2Q12, Grade A office rentals fell 4.7% QoQ to S$10.10 which cumulated in an 8.7% decline over three quarters. Core CBD vacancies, however, showed a reversal from a rising trend in 2Q12 to register a 0.9 ppt dip to 8.4%. A similar picture was seen for islandwide vacancy rates which declined 0.9 ppt to 6.4% (end 2Q12) from 7.3% (end 1Q12). We expect a similar trend for vacancies in 3Q12 which would likely contribute to a muted rate of rental decline.


Office absorption coming in above expectations


The 2Q12 decline in vacancies was mostly due to net absorption coming in at ~470k sq ft – in line with our forecast but markedly above market expectations which had anticipated a softer demand on macro-economic weaknesses. Grade A capital values also dipped an estimated 2% QoQ marginally to $2,450 psf in 2Q12 (1Q12: S$2,500 psf) as investment sales slowed and market players adopted a wait and see attitude in light of the residual uncertainty in the macroeconomy.


Limited supply till 2H13


Looking ahead to the remainder of FY12, it is likely that a situation of limited office pipeline completion would ensue with only ~70k sq ft of office space slated for opening – a mixed use development in Upper Pickering St – which has been fully pre-leased to AGC. We see this dynamic continuing until mid 2013 when Asia Square T2 and The Metropolis T1&2 are slated for completion.


Maintain OVERWEIGHT on Office REITs


We note that, since we have upgraded Office REITs to OVERWEIGHT on 21 Aug 2012, our top pick CCT has appreciated 4.0% against the STI’s 0.2 gain%. We maintain an OVERWEIGHT rating on Office REITs. Our top picks in the sector are CCT [BUY, FV: S$1.53] and FCOT [BUY, FV: S$1.23].


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which is the most cost effective SG trading and banking account to open

as long as decent services i.e. can access quite easily from Msia

Dont plan to remove funds from there so exchange rate will incur only during initial placement
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I prefer opening a trading account and bank account in Singapore. Long run, it should be a lot cheaper.

I use UOB Kay Hian and DBS. I made a trip to Singapore and sort out both accounts in 1 morning...

After that, did everything else online.. Never have to make another trip there so far..

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Wow! The industrial REITs are rising fast!
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I prefer opening a trading account and bank account in Singapore.   Long run, it should be a lot cheaper.

I use  UOB Kay Hian and DBS.    I made a trip to Singapore and sort out both accounts in 1 morning...

After that, did everything else online..   Never have to make another trip there so far..
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Possible to share your experience in detail? Eg. How much do we need as a minimum deposit? What kind of documents are needed? Etc.
Thanks. rclxms.gif

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Possible to share your experience in detail? Eg. How much do we need as a minimum deposit? What kind of documents are needed? Etc.
Thanks.  rclxms.gif
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For DBS, I open a DBS Saving Plus account. I just brought my passport, IC and SGD. At that time, it was ok as the ac min balance was SGD500 and if below, there is a fee of SGD2 per month but now, looks like they have revised the min deposit to SGD5000 sad.gif:
http://www.dbs.com.sg/personal/deposit/sav...gners/fees.page?


I also looked at Standard Chartered Bank and their Esaver account is pretty good. No min deposit/balance, no monthly fees.
In addition, I have heard that if one TT from their Malaysia Standard Chartered Bank account to their Sing Standard Chartered Bank account, there are no charges. I have not tried this myself.

http://www.standardchartered.com.sg/person...ver-account/en/

From their website:
High Interest Rates
No lock-in period
No monthly fees
No minimum deposit
No minimum balance
No fixed term
No hardcopy statements to file
No ATM cards, passbooks or cheque books to lose


I think when you choose a bank, other than considering the bank fees/min balance, it is important that they are one of the below banks (maybe these are all the banks in Sing? smile.gif I have no idea):
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This service allows you to receive Singapore-dollar dividend payments or other cash distributions directly into your designated bank account. You can choose from one of the following participating banks in Singapore:

1. Citibank
2. DBS / POSB
3. HSBC
4. OCBC
5. Standard Chartered Bank
6. UOB
For Uob Kay Hian, to open an account, you need your IC & Income statements:
http://www.uobkayhian.com.sg/page/site/pub...copenSGXfr.html

If you don't have a CDP account, they will do it for you too. In Singapore, only 1 CDS account... not like in Malaysia. 1 CDS account for each broker.. pensang.

Anyway, found this useful thread:
http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/stocks-s...-a-3628498.html

Hope this help.


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Wow! The industrial REITs are rising fast!
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Thanks for the alert... smile.gif

I like to check out comparison table in this blog http://mystocksinvesting.com/:
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QUOTE(Anic @ Sep 30 2012, 08:59 AM)
For DBS, I open a DBS Saving Plus account.  I just brought my passport, IC and SGD.    At that time, it was ok as the ac min balance was SGD500 and if below, there is a fee of SGD2 per month but now, looks like they have revised the min deposit to SGD5000 sad.gif:
  http://www.dbs.com.sg/personal/deposit/sav...gners/fees.page?
I also looked at Standard Chartered Bank and their Esaver account is pretty good.    No min deposit/balance, no monthly fees.
In addition, I have heard that if one TT from their Malaysia Standard Chartered Bank account to their Sing Standard Chartered Bank account, there are no charges.  I have not tried this myself.

http://www.standardchartered.com.sg/person...ver-account/en/

From their website:
  High Interest Rates
  No lock-in period
  No monthly fees
  No minimum deposit
  No minimum balance
  No fixed term
  No hardcopy statements to file
  No ATM cards, passbooks or cheque books to lose
I think when you choose a bank,  other than considering the bank fees/min balance, it is important that they are one of the below banks (maybe these are all the banks in Sing? smile.gif  I have no idea):
For Uob Kay Hian, to open an account, you need your IC & Income statements:
  http://www.uobkayhian.com.sg/page/site/pub...copenSGXfr.html

If you don't have a CDP account, they will do it for you too.    In Singapore, only 1 CDS account...  not like in Malaysia.  1 CDS account for each broker..  pensang. 

Anyway, found this useful thread:
http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/stocks-s...-a-3628498.html

Hope this help.


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Thanks for the alert...  smile.gif

I like to check out comparison table in this blog  http://mystocksinvesting.com/:
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Thank you. Standard chartered eAccount looks interesting. thumbup.gif Now, contemplating which broker/investment bank should i choose. hmm.gif

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What about interest rate risk? in the end you will be spending RM not SGD.
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I think u meant currency risk.
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U mean forex risk. tongue.gif
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LOL whatever you call it.. it's the same thing smile.gif
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Erm, nope. rclxub.gif Interest rate risk and currency risk are too totally different risks. Google it to find out more.
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What about interest rate risk? in the end you will be spending RM not SGD.
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I think it depends on how soon you need to spend the RM...

I am not concerned about interest rate risk/currency risk/forex risk (whatever it is.. smile.gif)
1) I am in for longer period and the money is for retirement.. smile.gif
2) I have only seen SGD getting more expensive to buy and haven't seen it become cheaper yet... Is there a possibility of the trend will reverse? smile.gif I doubt it but I can't say there is zero risk...

QUOTE(jjsia @ Oct 1 2012, 10:20 AM)
Thank you. Standard chartered eAccount looks interesting.  thumbup.gif Now, contemplating which broker/investment bank should i choose.  hmm.gif
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Let us know which one you choose.. smile.gif

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Erm, nope.  rclxub.gif  Interest rate risk and currency risk are too totally different risks. Google it to find out more.
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I think it depends on how soon you need to spend the RM...

I am not concerned about interest rate risk/currency risk/forex risk (whatever it is.. smile.gif)
1) I am in for longer period and the money is for retirement..  smile.gif 
2) I have only seen SGD getting more expensive to buy and haven't seen it become cheaper yet...    Is there a possibility of the trend will reverse?  smile.gif  I doubt it but I can't say there is zero risk...
This.

Do you see the trend of SGD vs MYR reversing anytime soon.....not for me.

If anything, we should see SGD=3MYR pretty soon. nod.gif
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This.

Do you see the trend of SGD vs MYR reversing anytime soon.....not for me.

If anything, we should see SGD=3MYR pretty soon.  nod.gif
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I have to buy some more Singapore dollar.. smile.gif
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Oct 2 2012, 08:10 AM)
This.

Do you see the trend of SGD vs MYR reversing anytime soon.....not for me.

If anything, we should see SGD=3MYR pretty soon.  nod.gif
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not so soon lah .... in 5 years time is possible if our Gov still dun wanna wake up ...... but good for exporting biz (commodities and raw materials) so that we stay at competitive range..... but who like to travel a lots is different story lah ...... so either side can be negative or positive to our country ...... what am i talking hmm.gif doh.gif
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not so soon lah .... in 5 years time is possible if our Gov still dun wanna wake up ...... but good for exporting biz (commodities and raw materials) so that we stay at competitive range..... but who like to travel a lots is different story lah ...... so either side can be negative or positive to our country ...... what am i talking  hmm.gif  doh.gif
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5 years is pretty SOON? Dontchathink? biggrin.gif

Considering in 1970, twas 1=1, 2012 is 1=2.5, 2017 = 3 ?????? brows.gif


Added on October 2, 2012, 1:27 pmWhen i invested SREITs early this year, twas 1 = 2.42............ hmmmmm


Added on October 2, 2012, 2:59 pmLooking at the online trading brokerage between UOB and SC, seems SC fees are cheaper.



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Added on October 2, 2012, 2:59 pmLooking at the online trading brokerage between UOB and SC, seems SC fees are cheaper.
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Thanks anic.

Thanks for the link!
ITS VERY helpful! thumbup.gif

On the opening of accounts in Singapore, do you just open over the counter?

ie with all your documents and $$$$?

No problem for Msian opening a bank account?

As i understand, local Msian banks do not allow funds transfer to a Sing account held by a Malaysian Citizen.
Can anyone verify that?

TIA

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Thanks anic.

Thanks for the link!
ITS VERY helpful!  thumbup.gif
Glad that it helps.. smile.gif

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On the opening of accounts in Singapore, do you just open over the counter?

ie with all your documents and $$$$?

No problem for Msian opening a bank account?
Yes, over the counter. I didn't face any problem opening the bank account. DBS officer just asked what is the purpose, and I said for investment. Can't remember if Standard Chartered Bank officer asked the same question. smile.gif

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Can anyone verify that?     

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I don't think there is such restriction. Though I haven't done it myself but my friend did it before. If this is not allowed, how do Malaysian parents TT money to Children studying in Singapore? smile.gif
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Glad that it helps..  smile.gif
Yes, over the counter.  I didn't face any problem opening the bank account.  DBS officer just asked what is the purpose, and I said for investment.    Can't remember if Standard Chartered Bank officer asked the same question.  smile.gif
I don't think there is such restriction.  Though I haven't done it myself but my friend did it before.    If this is not allowed, how do Malaysian parents TT money to Children studying in Singapore?  smile.gif
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What stock brokers are you using?

i tried to TT some funds to my Msian friend in UK. It was not allowed.
Maybe only for education?
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I use UOB Kay Hian. I didn't shop around at that time when I opened the ac. I was new then and didn't pay attention to fees etc.. smile.gif

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I use UOB Kay Hian.  I didn't shop around at that time when I opened the ac.  I was new then and didn't pay attention to fees etc..  smile.gif
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Yay! Another round of cash distributions coming next month! smile.gif
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Yay! Another round of cash distributions coming next month! smile.gif
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Anyone could share their experience on Singapore's brokerage firms and rates? Standard chartered trading account looks interesting.
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ok so correct me if im wrong pls, very new in this... as a malaysian i will then need to open a scb trading account and a savings account with them and that should do it so I can start trading?
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cross border trading thru malaysia broker is also possible but its very expensive around Rm$80
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ok so correct me if im wrong pls, very new in this... as a malaysian i will then need to open a scb trading account and a savings account with them and that should do it so I can start trading?
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I need clarification or input on that too. smile.gif
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QUOTE(ruben7389 @ Oct 27 2012, 07:03 AM)
ok so correct me if im wrong pls, very new in this... as a malaysian i will then need to open a scb trading account and a savings account with them and that should do it so I can start trading?
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You will first need to open an eSaver account with your Passport and $$$.
Then SCB will send you your userid and pin via mailer.

When you received your userid and pin than proceed to login to your account.
You will then need to do an online applications for your trading account.
Once you trading account is approved, you can click the online trading button that will bring you the trading platform.

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QUOTE(aronteh @ Nov 1 2012, 01:22 PM)
You will first need to open an eSaver account with your Passport and $$$.
Then SCB will send you your userid and pin via mailer.

When you received your userid and pin than proceed to login to your account.
You will then need to do an online applications for your trading account.
Once you trading account is approved, you can click the online trading button that will bring you the trading platform.
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Ok great and thanks for the info

So all I need to do is go into Spore and open esavers account. CDS account no need?
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Ok great and thanks for the info

So all I need to do is go into Spore and open esavers account.  CDS account no need?
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You don't to open CDS account for Standard Chartered Bank Trading Platform as your shares will be deposit into a nominee account.
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You don't to open CDS account for Standard Chartered Bank Trading Platform as your shares will be deposit into a nominee account.
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Nominee account? Is it possible to open a principal account? I don't think we can apply IPO for nominee account. Plz correct me if I am wrong. Thx
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Nominee account? Is it possible to open a principal account? I don't think we can apply IPO for nominee account. Plz correct me if I am wrong. Thx
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For IPO you need to use other broker. SCB only use nominee account.
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Any major difference between nominee account n principal (normal) stock broking account? Is it the same with Malaysia? Thanl you.
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Any major difference between nominee account n principal (normal) stock broking account? Is it the same with Malaysia? Thanl you.
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For one, nominee means the stocks are under the banks name, you cannot vote at Agms.
If banks goes under, you may lose yer stocks. You stocks maybe used for shorting.
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For one, nominee means the stocks are under the banks name, you cannot vote at Agms.
If banks goes under, you may lose yer stocks. You stocks maybe used for shorting.
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i bought SG REIT with HwangDBS once. (back in year 2011 Feb. if i remember correctly)
below are the fees

Singapore brokerage fees 0.1% or min SGD12
Clearing fees 0.04%
Trading fees 0.0075%
Malaysia HDBS commission fees 0.8% or min RM40
Malaysia c/stamp MYR1 per MYR1,000 which is 0.1%
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If you are using UOB Kay Hian, why didnt you use UOB for Banking?
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Anyone could share their experience on Singapore's brokerage firms and rates? Standard chartered trading account looks interesting.
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there is some information about this here: http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/stocks-s...-a-3628498.html

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I also looked at Standard Chartered Bank and their Esaver account is pretty good.    No min deposit/balance, no monthly fees.
In addition, I have heard that if one TT from their Malaysia Standard Chartered Bank account to their Sing Standard Chartered Bank account, there are no charges.   I have not tried this myself.

http://www.standardchartered.com.sg/person...ver-account/en/

From their website:
   High Interest Rates
   No lock-in period
   No monthly fees
   No minimum deposit
   No minimum balance
   No fixed term
   No hardcopy statements to file
   No ATM cards, passbooks or cheque books to lose
so we just open standard chartered esaver account and CDS account in any standard chartered bank in SG, then we can start trading in SG?
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Added on December 11, 2012, 12:34 pmi got a reply from standard charted bank in sg, saying that I need to have an address in singapore to open a bank account there?
i do not have sg address, means i cannot open an account there and thus trading and cds account?



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also if say I sell my shares, how can I get the money withdrawn or transfered to KL?
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also if say I sell my shares, how can I get the money withdrawn or transfered to KL?
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so we just open standard chartered esaver account and CDS account in any standard chartered bank in SG, then we can start trading in SG?
thanks


Added on December 11, 2012, 12:34 pmi got a reply from standard charted bank in sg, saying that I need to have an address in singapore to open a bank account there?
i do not have sg address, means i cannot open an account there and thus trading and cds account?
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em... this requirement wasn't there when i opened my account.

I checked DBS website and their requirement for foreigner is much simpler, however there is monthly fee though for below S$5K balance:
http://www.dbs.com.sg/personal/deposit/sav...equirement.page?
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Temasek Unit Targets $1.36 Billion in REIT IPO

Singaporean property developer Mapletree Investments Pte. plans to raise up to 1.68 billion Singapore dollars ($1.36 billion) by listing a China-focused real-estate investment trust in Singapore, in what would be city-state's largest initial public offering in two years.

The planned flotation of Mapletree Greater China Commercial Trust would be Singapore's largest since Hutchison Port Holdings Trust raised US$5.5 billion in March 2011. It will also be Singapore's biggest-ever REIT offering, topping Mapletree Commercial Trust's S$949.5 million IPO in April 2011 and strengthening the city-state's position as a regional hub for REIT listings.

Mapletree Investments' China-focused REIT plans to sell at least 776.6 million units to institutional and retail investors at an indicative price range of S$0.88-S$0.93 each, according to a preliminary prospectus filed Friday with Singapore's central bank. The number of units available to such investors could rise to 856.5 million if an over-allotment option is exercised to meet strong demand, the prospectus said.

Cornerstone investors—among them Norges Bank Investment Management and units of AIA Group, CBRE Group, Henderson Global Investors and Morgan Stanley—have already agreed to take up about 953.5 million units, the prospectus showed.

Mapletree Investments, the real-estate arm of Singaporean state investment company Temasek Holdings Pte., would take up 851.7 million-931.6 million units, depending on whether the over-allotment option is exercised.

Mapletree Greater China Commercial Trust—which would be Mapletree Investments' fourth REIT—plans to list on the Singapore Exchange on March 7, the prospectus said. It will take orders from institutional buyers beginning Monday, before opening its offering to retail investors on Feb. 28.


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Temasek Unit Targets $1.36 Billion in REIT IPO

Singaporean property developer Mapletree Investments Pte. plans to raise up to 1.68 billion Singapore dollars ($1.36 billion) by listing a China-focused real-estate investment trust in Singapore, in what would be city-state's largest initial public offering in two years.

The planned flotation of Mapletree Greater China Commercial Trust would be Singapore's largest since Hutchison Port Holdings Trust  raised US$5.5 billion in March 2011. It will also be Singapore's biggest-ever REIT offering, topping Mapletree Commercial Trust's S$949.5 million IPO in April 2011 and strengthening the city-state's position as a regional hub for REIT listings.

Mapletree Investments' China-focused REIT plans to sell at least 776.6 million units to institutional and retail investors at an indicative price range of S$0.88-S$0.93 each, according to a preliminary prospectus filed Friday with Singapore's central bank. The number of units available to such investors could rise to 856.5 million if an over-allotment option is exercised to meet strong demand, the prospectus said.

Cornerstone investors—among them Norges Bank Investment Management and units of AIA Group, CBRE Group, Henderson Global Investors and Morgan Stanley—have already agreed to take up about 953.5 million units, the prospectus showed.

Mapletree Investments, the real-estate arm of Singaporean state investment company Temasek Holdings Pte., would take up 851.7 million-931.6 million units, depending on whether the over-allotment option is exercised.

Mapletree Greater China Commercial Trust—which would be Mapletree Investments' fourth REIT—plans to list on the Singapore Exchange on March 7, the prospectus said. It will take orders from institutional buyers beginning Monday, before opening its offering to retail investors on Feb. 28.
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Hi All,

Anyone here using SG trading account to buy REITS? Which would be the cheapest brokerage when divvy auto debit to your sgd bank account,would there be any charges? Thanks in advance sifu notworthy.gif

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Hi All,

Anyone here using SG trading account to buy REITS? Which would  be the cheapest brokerage when divvy auto debit to your sgd bank account,would there be any charges? Thanks in advance sifu  notworthy.gif
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If you using maybank nominee account, now can activate for global trade. Trade thru maybank2u->global trading.
To activation global tading -Maybank will send the form to fill and the rate(SG, Indonesia, US and etc) in pdf scan image.
I have the attachment at my office computer send by maybank ampang park. I attach tomorw when i go to office.
The same rate charge broker fee as buying m'sia reits but in SGD, as i remember.

Not mistaken the dividen will bank back to ur maybank account.
I havent buy any SG reits, still pending activation since today. Hv call the jalan ampang, stated me to wait till next week monday.

if you are using maybank direct account, then the remiser will change your online to powerbroker, then you cant trade online for nominee(if you hv) cds account anymore.

hope this can help you. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(felixmask @ Feb 15 2013, 10:28 PM)
If you using maybank nominee account, now can activate for global trade. Trade thru maybank2u->global trading.
To activation global tading -Maybank will send the form to fill and the rate(SG, Indonesia, US and etc) in pdf scan image.
I have the attachment at my office computer send by maybank ampang park. I attach tomorw when i go to office.
The same rate charge broker fee as buying m'sia reits but in SGD, as i remember.

Not mistaken the dividen will bank back to ur maybank account.
I havent buy any SG reits, still pending activation since today. Hv call the jalan ampang, stated me to wait till next week monday.

if you are using maybank direct account, then the remiser will change your online to powerbroker, then you cant trade online for nominee(if you hv) cds account anymore.

hope this can help you.  biggrin.gif
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Thanks alot sifu. But as far as I know for nominee there will be a surcharge of RM2.50 for each divvy received (Based on my experience on Hle nominee account).
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Thanks alot sifu. But as far as I know for nominee there will be a surcharge of RM2.50 for each divvy received (Based on my experience on Hle nominee account).
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Yes, is true. Cant apply IPO , getting divident after 5 working day and dont recieve company financial statement.
Good thing is , there is is right issue, doesnt need to fill the form ourself juz a call to Investment branch.


Why i open nominee account....long story didnt do research when i want to open to buy Maxis IPO. After went tru the Q & A about stock jz realize my doh.gif mistake. Lesson learn going forward. Happy investing

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Thanks alot sifu. But as far as I know for nominee there will be a surcharge of RM2.50 for each divvy received (Based on my experience on Hle nominee account).
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Morning CP88,

  As promise attachment for the global trading charges.
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Mapletree's Greater China Reit priced at 93 Singapore cents



Mapletree Greater China Commercial Trust (MGCCT), the largest real estate investment trust (Reit) to be listed here to date, has been priced at 93 Singapore cents, the top end of the offering price range.

This was a result of the interest received from institutional investors during the bookbuilding process, it said on Wednesday as it registered its final prospectus with the Monetary Authority of Singapore.

The price range was guided at between 88 and 93 Singapore cents.

MGCCT will raise about S$1.68 billion in gross proceeds from the initial public offering. It will use the sum, together with HK$12.15 billion (S$1.94 billion) from an unsecured loan facility to pay the vendors for the acquisitions of the properties in its portfolio and for costs incurred from the offering and loan facility, as well as for working capital.

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QUOTE(felixmask @ Feb 15 2013, 10:28 PM)
If you using maybank nominee account, now can activate for global trade. Trade thru maybank2u->global trading.
To activation global tading -Maybank will send the form to fill and the rate(SG, Indonesia, US and etc) in pdf scan image.
I have the attachment at my office computer send by maybank ampang park. I attach tomorw when i go to office.
The same rate charge broker fee as buying m'sia reits but in SGD, as i remember.

Not mistaken the dividen will bank back to ur maybank account.
I havent buy any SG reits, still pending activation since today. Hv call the jalan ampang, stated me to wait till next week monday.

if you are using maybank direct account, then the remiser will change your online to powerbroker, then you cant trade online for nominee(if you hv) cds account anymore.

hope this can help you.  biggrin.gif
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I use CIMB itrade to buy.pretty high charge considering the forex.min SGD28 + $40rm + etc etc fees=about rm$100+
and my dividend they deduct min SGD10 service charge,while Hle deduct SGD6+rm10

that is the bad news,but the good news is my portfolio is doing pretty well 50% capital gain in 1 year
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I use CIMB itrade to buy.pretty high charge considering the forex.min SGD28 + $40rm + etc etc fees=about rm$100+
and my dividend they deduct min SGD10 service charge,while Hle deduct SGD6+rm10

that is the bad news,but the good news is my portfolio is doing pretty well 50% capital gain in 1 year
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nod.gif nod.gif EXPENSIVE...MUST buy big lot. nod.gif nod.gif

I still havent decide still looking/searching and studying.

Can share what u buy SREITS?
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nod.gif  nod.gif EXPENSIVE...MUST buy big lot. nod.gif  nod.gif

I still havent decide still looking/searching and studying.

Can share what u buy SREITS?
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i 'small fish' only can only buy 1 lot haha
i buy only starhill global reit since it has property in singapore,malaysia,australia,japan,china
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i 'small fish' only can only buy 1 lot haha
i buy only starhill global reit since it has property in singapore,malaysia,australia,japan,china
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better then noting...Do you look at Business Trust.
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better then noting...Do you look at Business Trust.
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Mapletree Greater China Commercial Trust: How will the court decide over Gateway Plaza loan claim? - We don't know – that's up to the court. But pending litigation in Supreme People’s Court of China could well be the most happening thing for the Trust in coming months. Along with property cooling measures. http://www.investorcentral.org/show_text.php?textid=17492

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So, any1 think which reits in Singapore worth buying? Almost all or all above NAV?
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suntec reit is below nav.....
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DPU is expected to increase. biggrin.gif
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Yes. Suntec is undergoing renovations now. Will be completed be year end.
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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142412...1312805200.html
SPH considering REIT

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Yup. Seletar Mall completing 2014 year end. thumbup.gif
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Hi guys.. look what i've found here!  brows.gif

Mapletree Greater China Commercial Trust: How will the court decide over Gateway Plaza loan claim? - We don't know – that's up to the court. But pending litigation in Supreme People’s Court of China could well be the most happening thing for the Trust in coming months. Along with property cooling measures. http://www.investorcentral.org/show_text.php?textid=17492
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Do you like fraser commercial trust? CIMB hardcore recommending this one. Still thinking.
So if use cimb (malaysia) account to buy Singapore stocks/reits, how much they charge for the dividend? I mean, how many % could be loss on dividend?
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Hi guys.. look what i've found here!  brows.gif

Mapletree Greater China Commercial Trust: How will the court decide over Gateway Plaza loan claim? - We don't know – that's up to the court. But pending litigation in Supreme People’s Court of China could well be the most happening thing for the Trust in coming months. Along with property cooling measures. http://www.investorcentral.org/show_text.php?textid=17492
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Do you like fraser commercial trust? CIMB hardcore recommending this one. Still thinking.
So if use cimb (malaysia) account to buy Singapore stocks/reits, how much they charge for the dividend? I mean, how many % could be loss on dividend?
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Anyone invested in Sabana REIT? Any advise can be provide?

I'm thinking to invest in it.
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REITs, Trusts and Stapled Securities


What is the difference between a REIT and a Property Trust? What about REITs and Stapled Securities?

Real Estate Investment Trusts (REITs), Property Trusts and Stapled Securities are three different vehicles that a security investor can get into property investments. But some investors are fond of using these terms loosely without understanding the fundamental differences between them. In fact, it is not uncommon to see even respected mainstream media confusing these terms and using them interchangeably and inappropriately.

It does not help that these terms are not regulated by the authorities. A REIT could call itself a Trust and similarly a property trust could call itself a REIT without having the obligation of operating as one as per the guidelines stipulated by regulators.

In this article we will present to you the key differences between these 3 types of securitized real estate investments and why it matters that you understand the nature of each carefully in order to make an informed investment decision.

REITs

In most jurisdictions, in order for a collective property investment to call itself a REIT it must pay out a minimum of 90 percent of its rental income to unit holders annually. This comes on the back of requirements of minimum assets sizes and restrictions on business activities. REITs are also subjected to limits on the amount of loans that they can take. In Singapore, the gearing limit is 35 percent for REITs with a credit rating and 60 percent for REITs that are unrated.

The regulations imposed on REIT are enforceable by the authorities and listed REITs are subjected to a high degree of transparency and scrutiny by the government and unit holders alike.

With so much restrictions, why does a collective property investment bother to go through the trouble of manifesting itself as a REIT? The short answer - favorable tax treatments. As long as a REIT satisfies the conditions stipulated by regulators, it is exempted from corporate taxes and duties that are usually leveled against property investments companies. This means more income from your properties overall despite the stricter amount of regulations that you will have to comply with

Property Trusts

Listed Property Trusts are also collective property investments that pool money from unit holders primarily to invest in income producing real estate. Rental income is similarly distributed to unit holders after deducting costs such as management fees and other overhead. Like REITs, Property Trusts are also by collective investment codes and other regulations that may be imposed by the bourses in which they are listed.

However, and herein the most important difference between REITs and Property Trusts, is that Property Trusts are not obligated to pay out a minimum amount of its rental income to unit holders. It is also not subjected to the leverage and asset size limits that REITs are imposed with. This means that should a Trust manager decide that business is bad for a particular year, it may not distribute any rental income and unit holders can be left with no income distribution for the units they hold at the end of the financial year. Property Trusts do not receive the same types of favorable tax rulings that REITs enjoy.

Examples of Property Trusts in Singapore that have often been confused as REITs by the media include the recently-listed Croesus Retail Trust and Perrenial China Retail Trust

Stapled Securities

In the context of securitized property investments, Stapled Securities are listed property investment securities that can be a bundle combination of either REITs, Property Trusts units or even property stocks.

This commonly happens when a securitized property investment vehicle decides to apply a REIT model to a certain segment of its property portfolio while taking on a Trust model for another segment to form a single trade-able unit known as the Stapled Security. In this manner, the manager of the Stapled Security need to be bound by REIT regulations only for the segment of the portfolio that adopts the REIT model. He is then free to pursue other plans for the properties that do not require compliance to REIT regulations. Hence a Stapled Security is obligated to pay a the minimum amount of rental to unit holders only for the properties that are adhering to a REIT structure.

An example of a Stapled Security is Singapore-listed CDL Hospitality Trusts which comprises of CDL Hospitality Real Estate Investment Trust and CDL Hospitality Business Trust. Another prominent example of a Stapled Security in this region is the KLCC REIT in Malaysia that comprises of REIT units and property stocks of KLCC Property Holdings Berhad (KLCCP).

Stapled Securities are similarly bound by listing and reporting regulations that may be imposed the the respective bourses.

These are the salient differences between a REIT, a Property Trust and a Stapled Security. Several more technical differences exist between the three but its full breadth will not be covered by this short article. But the main features covered above will help you to make a more informed decision as an investor.
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Weighted Average Lease to Expiry (WALE)
One of the bigger risks of managing commercial properties is vacancy. When a property, or parts of a property, is left vacant for too long, property income and distribution to shareholders will be affected. This is where the metric WALE comes in handy as an assessment tool.

Weighted Average Lease to Expiry (WALE) is used to measure the overall tenancy risks of a particular property with multiple tenants and is used by REIT investors to assess the likelihood of a property being vacated. In other parts of the world, other abbreviations such as WALT (Weighted Average Lease Term) and WAULT (Weighted Average Unexpired Lease Term) are sometimes used and practically means the same thing. In the Asia Pacific region, investors are more accustomed to WALE.

WALE is measured across all the tenants remaining lease in years in a property and is weighted by either the tenant’s lettable area or the tenant’s income against the total combined area or income of the other tenants.

Most investors are of the opinion that the longer the WALE is the better. But depending on your investment objectives, this may not necessarily be the case:

Commercial buildings with long WALE, typically of being 5 years or more, usually have the commitments of large tenants such as government departments or multinational corporations. They have little to worry about in terms of vacancy risk but larger tenants would usually mean that the property will not be able to negotiate for rent hikes as much as a property with smaller tenants. Therefore there will be a limitation in terms of internal growth.

Commercial buildings with shorter WALE, typically of between 1 to 4 years, usually have smaller businesses as their tenants who do not commit to lease terms of longer than 5 years. There is higher vacancy risk as compared to a property with larger tenants. But commercial properties like these are generally able to manifest more robust growth internally through periodic rent hikes, resulting in better growth in property income. But do bear in mind that commercial properties with shorter WALE may face higher costs in terms of leasing agent fees, advertising fees and legal fees.

So if robust internal income growth is your preference, REITs with long WALE may not exactly work in your favor. But if you are after predictability and stability of income, REITs with longer WALE may be your best bet.
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Singapore REITs Index Up 12.9 Percent in 2013

If you are investor holding on to a Singapore-listed REIT since the start of 2013, you will be sitting on average gains of about 12.9 percent so far this year. This is according to latest update by Singapore Exchange which shows that all 23 REITs listed on the Singapore bourse making gains for 2013 to date (With year-to-date taken as 17 May 2013).

REITs with the biggest gain in prices for 2013 so far are Hong Kong-focused Fortune REIT (34.81 percent) and healthcare landlords First REIT (34.43 percent) and Parkway Life REIT (25.58 percent). Also making respectable gains are Cambridge Industrial Trust (25.19 percent) and Keppel REIT (23.55 percent).

REITs with the weakest price gains this year to date are CapitaCommercial Trust (1.19 percent) CapitaRetail China Trust (4.86 percent) and Saizen REIT (4.97 percent). Performance for the rest of the Singapore-listed REITs are ranked below according to percentage change in price.

RANK REIT % CHANGE % DIV
1 FORTUNE REIT 34.81 3.87
2 FIRST REIT 34.43 3.12
3 PARKWAYLIFE REIT 25.58 3.85
4 CAMBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL TRUST 25.19 5.74
5 AIMS AMP CAPITAL INDUSTRIAL TRUST 24.08 4.89
6 KEPPEL REIT 23.55 3.69
7 MAPLETREE GREATER CHINA 21.51 NA
8 MAPLETREE COMMERCIAL TRUST 20.58 3.38
9 STARHILL GLOBAL REIT 19.75 4.99
10 FRASERS COMMERCIAL TRUST 19.70 4.52
11 SABANA REIT 18.86 6.96
12 MAPLETREE LOGISTICS TRUST 17.03 5.12
13 CACHE LOGISTICS TRUST 15.73 4.55
14 LIPPO MALLS INDONESIA RETAIL TRUST 15.31 5.58
15 ASCENDAS REIT 15.19 3.74
16 MAPLETREE INDUSTRIAL TRUST 14.34 5.94
17 SUNTEC REIT 12.84 4.90
18 FRASERS CENTREPOINT TRUST 12.50 4.63
19 CAPITAMALL TRUST 7.51 3.16
20 ASCOTT RESIDENCE TRUST 7.35 3.33
21 SAIZEN REIT 4.97 6.79
22 CAPITARETAIL CHINA TRUST 4.86 2.74
23 CAPITACOMMERCIAL TRUST 1.19 4.72



When ranked according to 12-month historical dividend distribution yields the REITs that came out on top are Sabana REIT (6.96 percent), Saizen REIT (6.79 percent) and Mapletree Industrial Trust (5.94 percent). Rank for Mapletree Greater China Commercial Trust is not available due to a lack of historical performance.


RANK REIT % CHANGE % DIV
1 SABANA REIT 18.86 6.96
2 SAIZEN REIT 4.97 6.79
3 MAPLETREE INDUSTRIAL TRUST 14.34 5.94
4 CAMBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL TRUST 25.19 5.74
5 LIPPO MALLS INDONESIA RETAIL TRUST 15.31 5.58
6 MAPLETREE LOGISTICS TRUST 17.03 5.12
7 STARHILL GLOBAL REIT 19.75 4.99
8 SUNTEC REIT 12.84 4.90
9 AIMS AMP CAPITAL INDUSTRIAL TRUST 24.08 4.89
10 CAPITACOMMERCIAL TRUST 1.19 4.72
11 FRASERS CENTREPOINT TRUST 12.50 4.63
12 CACHE LOGISTICS TRUST 15.73 4.55
13 FRASERS COMMERCIAL TRUST 19.70 4.52
14 FORTUNE REIT 34.81 3.87
15 PARKWAYLIFE REIT 25.58 3.85
16 ASCENDAS REIT 15.19 3.74
17 KEPPEL REIT 23.55 3.69
18 MAPLETREE COMMERCIAL TRUST 20.58 3.38
19 ASCOTT RESIDENCE TRUST 7.35 3.33
20 CAPITAMALL TRUST 7.51 3.16
21 FIRST REIT 34.43 3.12
22 CAPITARETAIL CHINA TRUST 4.86 2.74


Including dividends, S-REIT unit holders would have made an average gain of about 15.84 percent this year to date. All data have been compiled by Singapore Exchange from Bloomberg and ranked by REITSWEEK.

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Thanks Prophetjul this is a very helpful post indeed. It seems that the summary from REITSWEEK.com seem to suggest that Singapore Industrial REITS give the best dividends for investors looking for yield.

However if you are into price appreciation, it seems that its Singapore Healthcare REITs that is doing very well.

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Thanks Prophetjul this is a very helpful post indeed. It seems that the summary from REITSWEEK.com seem to suggest that Singapore Industrial REITS give the best dividends for investors looking for yield.

However if you are into price appreciation, it seems that its Singapore Healthcare REITs that is doing very well.
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Its very difficult to find bargains in this sector anymore with the div yield compression

But then some funds maybe happy with 5%.

The healthcare sector in SG is very strong and attractive as far as the future is concerned.
Altho the div yield is lower, its very stable in the foreseeable future.
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S-REITs continue to perform

Sector currently trading at 1.24x P/B

Prefer S-REITs with strong fundamentals and compelling valuations


Firm 1Q13 performance; mostly in line


In our latest assessment of the S-REITs sector, we continue to see familiar trends. REIT managers have generally maintained firm growth in their trusts’ rental income, on the back of contributions from past investments and improved operational performance. Of the 16 SREITs under our coverage, 10 of them reported results that were in line, three exceeded our expectations, while the remaining three fell short of our forecasts.


Leasing activities remained largely healthy


1Q13 operating metrics for most of the S-REITs had stayed resilient. Average portfolio occupancy was stable at 96.9%, whereas the weighted average lease to expiry improved from 4.3 years in 4Q12 to 4.5 years. In addition, positive rental reversions were also clocked. This clearly illustrates the healthy rental market demand and proactive lease management on the part of the REIT managers, in our view.


Active capital management


We also observe that S-REITs have been very active in refinancing its existing debts and maintaining an optimal capital structure. There were a slew of private placements in 1Q, which helped keep the aggregate leverage healthy at 32.1%. Going forward, we believe that the sector’s aggregate leverage is set to trend upwards. As such, SREITs may continue to tap the equity capital market to fund their proposed investments. The cost of debt is expected to maintain at current levels or increase marginally, as S-REITs trade possibly higher interest costs for diversified funding sources, longer term debt, and/or an improvement in their unencumbered asset ratios.


Sector outlook remains sanguine


For 2013, we are maintaining our view that S-REITs are likely to continue to deliver firm performance. All the S-REITs are either involved in asset enhancement initiatives/development projects, pursuing yield-accretive acquisitions, or enhancing their portfolio metrics through active leasing efforts, which should lead to continued strong numbers for their financial scorecards. For our coverage, we expect the S-REITs to post 6.6% growth in aggregate DPU for the current fiscal year, before experiencing another 8.6% growth in the next year.


Prudent to be selective


Nevertheless, the S-REIT index has been enjoying a good run-up, raking up 36.7% gain in 2012 and another 12.7% increase YTD. Given that the S-REITs are now trading at a 24% premium to book value on average, we feel that it is prudent to be selective on S-REITs. We continue to prefer S-REITs with good growth potential, strong financial position and compelling valuations (relatively lower P/B and decent DPU yields). In this respect, we continue to pick CapitaCommercial Trust [BUY, S$1.80 FV], Fortune REIT [BUY, HK$8.64 FV] and Starhill Global REIT [BUY, S$1.05 FV] as our preferred BUYs. Reiterate our OVERWEIGHT view on the broader SREITs sector.

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Singapore REITs tumbled by as much as 6 percent on Friday? Are REITs finally crashing from their astronomical prices?

Singapore REITs Dive on Chinese Data : REITSWEEK

Singapore REITs Dive on Weak Chinese Data
Singapore REITs were some of the Straits Times Index' biggest losers as markets closed sharply lower on Friday on weaker-than-expected Chinese economic data. Office REIT Frasers Commercial Trust dived nearly 6 percent while CapitaMall Trust and CapitaRetail China Trust bled about 5.6 percent each. This as compared to the Straits Times Index (STI) which lost only 1.8 percent.

The rest of the 10 worse losing REITs or Trusts are compiled as follows:

(actually there is a table but sorry I don't know how to copy tables lah doh.gif )



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Singapore’s Market for the Week: REITs Nosedive

By Ser Jing Chong - May 25, 2013

One of the big stories for the week was the 7% plunge in Japan’s Nikkei 225 Index on Thursday. That came after reports of weak manufacturing activity in China surfaced together with news of a rise in interest rates in Japan, sparking fears of a halt in Japan’s attempted economic recovery under Abenomics.

In Singapore, the Straits Times Index (SGX: ^STI) was down for the week by 1.6% to 3,393 from last Friday’s close of 3,449. The index had more-or-less stayed flat from Monday to Wednesday before Thursday’s 1.8% plunge to 3,393, possibly due to contagion with the Nikkei’s fall.

For investors who are focused on Singapore’s blue chips, they might have missed an interesting development in locally-listed Real Estate Investment Trust (REITs) which might have been a result of the rise in interest rates in Japan – none of the 23 REITs listed on the Mainboard stock exchange ended with gains on Thursday.

The losses ranged from the 2.1% decline to $0.192 for the Japanese real estate-related Saizen REIT (SGX: DZ8U), to the 6% drop to $1.49 that commercial property REIT Frasers Commercial Trust (SGX: KT8U) suffered. Even Singapore’s oldest REIT, CapitaMall Trust (SGX: C38U) wasn’t spared as the retail property REIT went down by 5.7% to $2.17.

In Japan, a big part of Abenomics involves the buying of bonds by the Japanese government, which was expected to continue to lower interest rates. But, interest rates started spiking in the midst of the bond-buying programme, putting questions into the efficacy of quantitative easing and if the prevalent low interest rate environment can continue. To see how this relates to REITs, we have to look at their capital structure.

REITs carry significant debt on their balance sheets and because of legal requirements for them to distribute almost all of their income, they only have three options to deal with debt: 1) Refinance due-debts with new debt, 2) Raise additional cash through an offering of units or 3) the worst-case option of having to sell-off income producing assets for cash to pay up for loans that are due.

If interest rates start rising across the board, REITs are going to find debt a lot more expensive to obtain during refinancing. With expensive debt come higher interest payments and if rental incomes are kept constant, unit-holders will find themselves with a much smaller income.

That’s not all. Both Option 2) and 3) will only cause existing unit holders to suffer, either through dilution (for the second option), or from the loss of partial rental-income (for the third option). It’s not a good position to be in for a REIT investor if they are caught between these insufferable situations.

No one can calculate with mathematical precision the odds of those adverse events I described earlier. But, those risks are present and some of them have been raised by ratings agency Fitch Ratings in March this year. With leverage, comes risk and so, investors ought to tread carefully.

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confirmed SPH REIT

MEDIA group Singapore Press Holdings will be spinning off a real estate investment trust (reit) of its retail malls, it announced Monday evening.

It has received a listing eligibility from the Singapore Exchange.

Chief executive Alan Chan said: "We plan to inject Paragon and The Clementi Mall into SPH Reit."

SPH is expected to hold about 70 per cent of the units in the Reit, and plans to declare a special dividend of 18 cents.

SPH's retail reit is expected to list in early July, said chief financial officer Tony Mallek at a press briefing on Monday. This is subject to shareholders' approval at an extraordinary general meeting in June.

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Rising Risks But Slower Growth


In 1Q13, the FSTREI performed slightly better than STI, with a YTD appreciation of +12% vs the latter +7.5%. During this period, the low interest rate and high liquidity environment have prompted investors to continue their chase for yield plays. In this report, apart from providing a recap and an outlook on the sector, we also examine the effects in the event if any/all the three main drivers of the S-REITs sector changes.


Stable results – grew through AEIs and acquisitions. The latest SREITs results posted market cap weighted average growth of +3.5% y-o-y and +1.4% q-o-q in DPU for the sector. Among the 23 REITs (excluding MAGIC) listed in Singapore, only four REITs reported a lower y-o-y DPU. Among the REITs that recorded a positive growth in earnings, 61.1% of them grew as a result of AEIs (16.7%) and new acquisitions (44.4%).This is inline with our earlier view that most REITs will focus on growing their earnings inorganically, on the back of a low interest rate and high liquidity environment.


Flattish outlook in the various subsectors of SREITs. Although the rental market continues to be well-supported by the various industries, the outlook for possible positive reversion appears dampen in the industrial, hospitality and retail market as the global economy remains uncertain. Coupled with ample supply of commercial buildings over the next two years, we retained a flattish outlook on these sub-sectors. However, in a mid-term timeframe, we remain positive on the outlook of the Grade-A office sector in Singapore as demand remains limited coupled with an expected uplift in rental rates as the economy recovers.


Risk in the SREITs sector increases. Although we do not expect the i) global outlook, ii) high liquidity and iii) prolonged low interest rate environment to change in the near term, a closer examination indicated that if any of these factors are to change, it could potentially result in a sell-down in SREITs. In our view, given the high sector valuations, the risk-reward profile is less sanguine than before. We, therefore, introduce a new return gearing metric that takes these factors into account to study the relationship between share price, risk and return.


Maintain NEUTRAL on rich valuations; positive bias remains. On the back of i) flattish outlook in the various SREITs subsectors; ii) high valuations of S-REITs; iii) lack of growth catalysts in the near term; and iv) rising risks in the SREITs sector, we maintain our NEUTRAL view in the SREITs sector. However, positive bias remains if more liquidity flows into the market due to the latest QE program from Japan.

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S-REIT: Are We Blinded By Yield?

In this low interest environment, investors have been actively seeking yield through investments in dividend paying stocks and REITs. However, the recent sell-off of Keppel REIT by Keppel Corp have sparked the question: Are we overpaying for S-REITs?

Sale Of K-Reit Stake
In the past week, the sale of Keppel Reit (K-Reit) by Keppel Corporation to Goldman Sachs has sparked the discussion of the overvaluation of S-REITs. This, the result of buying behaviour exhibited by investors chasing yield. This is the second divestment of K-Reit by Keppel Corp this year following the sale of stake through a placement to unknown buyers arranged by Barclays Bank.

Goldman Sach purchased 180 million units at $1.555 apiece which is a 6.7 percent stake in Keppel-REIT from Keppel Corp. The placement price of $1.555 was a 3.1 percent discount to the market price of $1.605 on the day the announcement was made. Based on the placement price of $1.555 and the dividend of $0.0777 per share paid to investors for FY2012, the implied yield for Goldman Sachs on K-Reit will be 5 percent compared to 4.84 percent retail investors based on the price of $1.605.

Liquidity And Chasing Yield
In the current low-interest environment with Singapore Government 10-year bonds yielding only 1.6 percent, investors in Singapore have been actively seeking yield from the market thus boosting liquidity. With such ample liquidity, Singapore has been attracting initial public offerings (IPOs) of various REITs and Business Trusts (BT) for IPOs.

This year alone, we saw the IPO of Mapletree Greater China Commercial Trust (REIT), Croesus Retail Trust (BT) and Asian Pay Television Trust (BT). Despite the large issues from these IPOs, more REIT IPOs are on the way.

Speculation is rife that companies such as SPH, OUE, Hoo Bee and Banyan Tree are looking to spin off assets to form the basis of REITs which will then list on the Singapore Exchange. A recent update from SPH mentioned that it expects to raise about $540 million from an asset spin-off (Paragon and the Clementi Mall) into a REIT. The IPO of this REIT is expected to be in early July.

Despite having new IPOs of REITs and BTs, there is still ample liquidity in the market which has led to the compression of yields of REITs. The compression was mainly attributed to the higher prices of REITs which have lead S-REITs to trade at an average of 1.24 times Price-to-Book based on reports by OCBC Investment Research.

K-REIT – Value Affirmation?
Looking back at K-REIT, the fact that it is able to attract institutional investors like Goldman Sachs can be viewed as value affirmation and a positive outlook to S-REITs.

K-Reit currently owns the highest-quality office portfolio among office Singapore Office REITs including prime office buildings such as Ocean Financial Centre, One Raffles Quay and Marina Bay Financial Centre Towers 1 and 2 which makes up 80 percent of its portfolio by net leasable area.

With its prime portfolio, K-REIT attracted major investors such as Temasek Holdings and Capital Group which owns a 2.8 and 1.33 percent stake in Keppel-REIT respectively. This affirms the value of K-Reit and its prospect but at the same time proves the point that it seems to be be currently overvalued by investors.

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Source: FactSet, table on K-REIT’s brokers’ recommendations

Investing in a Low Yield Environment
When investing in REITs, it is important to consider the sponsor of the REITs, this particularly so after lessons learnt from the Lehman crisis. REITs with strong sponsors such as Mapletree Logistics Trust weathered through Lehman crisis despite the credit crunch. While REITs with weak sponsors such as MacarthurCook Industrial REIT(now known as AIMS AMP Capital Industrial Reit) almost went bust.

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Source: FactSet. chart comparing the returns of AIMS AMP Capital Industrial REIT and Mapletree Logistics Trust (5 year horizon)

Bond ratings of a REIT is another factor to look at as it plays a huge role in the ability and cost for financing in REITs. Bond ratings and borrowing costs have an inverse relationship which means that the higher the credit rating of the company, the lower the cost of financing.

It is also favourable for REITs to obtain investment grade ratings as institutional investors like insurance companies have been constantly seeking for such bonds since the Lehman crisis as stricter risk mandates have kicked in. Having insurance companies as holders of the bonds are favourable as they tend to buy and hold to maturity which will bring stability to bond prices.

To sum up all the points, no matter how good the quality of the investment is, it will not be a good investment if you overpay.

Investors need to be prudent in picking the REITs not only in the quality of the assets but also the cost of investment. If Goldman Sachs is receiving 5 percent yield, why should retail investors settle for less?

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S-REIT: Are We Blinded By Yield?

In this low interest environment, investors have been actively seeking yield through investments in dividend paying stocks and REITs. However, the recent sell-off of Keppel REIT by Keppel Corp have sparked the question: Are we overpaying for S-REITs?

Sale Of K-Reit Stake
In the past week, the sale of Keppel Reit (K-Reit) by Keppel Corporation to Goldman Sachs has sparked the discussion of the overvaluation of S-REITs. This, the result of buying behaviour exhibited by investors chasing yield. This is the second divestment of K-Reit by Keppel Corp this year following the sale of stake through a placement to unknown buyers arranged by Barclays Bank.

Goldman Sach purchased 180 million units at $1.555 apiece which is a 6.7 percent stake in Keppel-REIT from Keppel Corp. The placement price of $1.555 was a 3.1 percent discount to the market price of $1.605 on the day the announcement was made. Based on the placement price of $1.555 and the dividend of $0.0777 per share paid to investors for FY2012, the implied yield for Goldman Sachs on K-Reit will be 5 percent compared to 4.84 percent retail investors based on the price of $1.605.

Liquidity And Chasing Yield
In the current low-interest environment with Singapore Government 10-year bonds yielding only 1.6 percent, investors in Singapore have been actively seeking yield from the market thus boosting liquidity. With such ample liquidity, Singapore has been attracting initial public offerings (IPOs) of various REITs and Business Trusts (BT) for IPOs.

This year alone, we saw the IPO of Mapletree Greater China Commercial Trust (REIT), Croesus Retail Trust (BT) and Asian Pay Television Trust (BT). Despite the large issues from these IPOs, more REIT IPOs are on the way.

Speculation is rife that companies such as SPH, OUE, Hoo Bee and Banyan Tree are looking to spin off assets to form the basis of REITs which will then list on the Singapore Exchange. A recent update from SPH mentioned that it expects to raise about $540 million from an asset spin-off (Paragon and the Clementi Mall) into a REIT. The IPO of this REIT is expected to be in early July.

Despite having new IPOs of REITs and BTs, there is still ample liquidity in the market which has led to the compression of yields of REITs. The compression was mainly attributed to the higher prices of REITs which have lead S-REITs to trade at an average of 1.24 times Price-to-Book based on reports by OCBC Investment Research.

K-REIT – Value Affirmation?
Looking back at K-REIT, the fact that it is able to attract institutional investors like Goldman Sachs can be viewed as value affirmation and a positive outlook to S-REITs.

K-Reit currently owns the highest-quality office portfolio among office Singapore Office REITs including prime office buildings such as Ocean Financial Centre, One Raffles Quay and Marina Bay Financial Centre Towers 1 and 2 which makes up 80 percent of its portfolio by net leasable area.

With its prime portfolio, K-REIT attracted major investors such as Temasek Holdings and Capital Group which owns a 2.8 and 1.33 percent stake in Keppel-REIT respectively. This affirms the value of K-Reit and its prospect but at the same time proves the point that it seems to be be currently overvalued by investors.

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Source: FactSet, table on K-REIT’s brokers’ recommendations

Investing in a Low Yield Environment
When investing in REITs, it is important to consider the sponsor of the REITs, this particularly so after lessons learnt from the Lehman crisis. REITs with strong sponsors such as Mapletree Logistics Trust weathered through Lehman crisis despite the credit crunch. While REITs with weak sponsors such as MacarthurCook Industrial REIT(now known as AIMS AMP Capital Industrial Reit) almost went bust.

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Source: FactSet. chart comparing the returns of AIMS AMP Capital Industrial REIT and Mapletree Logistics Trust (5 year horizon)

Bond ratings of a REIT is another factor to look at as it plays a huge role in the ability and cost for financing in REITs. Bond ratings and borrowing costs have an inverse relationship which means that the higher the credit rating of the company, the lower the cost of financing.

It is also favourable for REITs to obtain investment grade ratings as institutional investors like insurance companies have been constantly seeking for such bonds since the Lehman crisis as stricter risk mandates have kicked in. Having insurance companies as holders of the bonds are favourable as they tend to buy and hold to maturity which will bring stability to bond prices.

To sum up all the points, no matter how good the quality of the investment is, it will not be a good investment if you overpay.

Investors need to be prudent in picking the REITs not only in the quality of the assets but also the cost of investment. If Goldman Sachs is receiving 5 percent yield, why should retail investors settle for less?
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I think they are way over valued. It is safer to go after more reputable IPos in the time being. Especially the government backed ones.
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Paragon Mall value soars, mall to be injected into SPH REIT

The media group Monday announced that Paragon and The Clementi Mall will be spun off into the REIT. SPH fully owns Paragon and owns 60% of The Clementi Mall. It also owns 70% of The Seletar Mall.

Chan said The Seletar Mall would also be sold to the REIT when it is ready.

Paragon is being sold to the retail REIT for S$2.5bil.

http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...14&sec=business
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REITS seem to be falling. Looks bad for SPH stake holders.
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Volatility Here To Stay; Underweight


Clear and present danger. We expect the current “QE-inflated growth” to run out of steam in the months ahead and S-REIT prices will continue to rationalize. Despite our regional economics’ team’s expectations that QE will persist through 2013, the fact that Bernanke’s mere hint1 of QE tapering on 22 May had driven the S-REITs down by 9.4% by 3 Jun showed how jittery investors have become with yield plays. While some will find S-REITs to be still attractive, we believe fears of impending stimulus withdrawal and rate hikes overhang will cap further upside. Downgrade to Underweight and switch to developers (prefer CapitaLand, Keppel Land, CMA and Wing Tai). For those who must be in S-REITs, we prefer the retail REITS (Suntec REIT, CapitaMall Trust and StarHill Global REIT).


Interest rate risk rising. The SG government ten-year bond went up from 1.56% on 22 May (the day of Bernanke’s Congressional testimony) to 1.86% (30 bps) within a span of five working days, while the DPU yields of S-REITs expanded from 5.1% to 5.7% (60bps). It appears that the market was then pricing in future rate hikes of 30 bps, pending uncertainty over US exit strategy, especially since Bernanke left the door opened to both downward AND upward adjustment depending on how the economy actually does. Another risk could also be the more crowded space amongst S-REITs investors (including private wealth clients), some of whom we understand to have geared up (and thus more susceptible to interest rate hikes) for a “carry trade” on S-REITs. At this writing, the market has since narrowed DPU yields back to 5.6%, ~20bps higher than the 30bps rate hike correction.


Ample QE till September at least but… Our regional economics team believes that current ample liquidity conditions will continue till Sep 2013 at least. They expect QE3 to persist through 2013 and no rate hike in the US before 2015. The Fed is expected to continue its unprecedented USD85 billion a month bond buying (comprising USD40b in mortgage securities and USD45b in treasuries) as long as two key indicators – unemployment and core PCE (personal consumption expenditures) inflation – remain beyond the Fed’s selfimposed tolerance limits of 6.5% and 2% respectively. Nonetheless, given the forward pricing nature of markets, we believe that sporadic corrections for S-REITs are still imminent in 2H13 and take a closer look at trough valuations for FY13.


Volatility will not subside. In this economic climate, we believe SREITs’ trading will get more volatile. In terms of trough valuations, we benchmarked against average yield spreads of S-REITs with the highest FY13 street estimate for SG government ten-year bond of 2.25%. If risk-free rate rises to that level, the downside risk to S-REITs will be a fall in prices down 10% from current levels and most severe for Office REITs (-11%), followed by Industrial (-5%) and then retail (-2%). This assumes negligible DPU growth, which is modest for S-REITs in FY13 (sub-par 7% from 10% in FY12).

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Singapore latest REIT coming up is controlled by the wealthy Riady family of Indonesian origin.

REITSWEEK.COM : OUE REIT Receives approval from SGX

The firm has also revealed that the REIT, christened the OUE Hospitality REIT, will be led by Mr. Chong Kee Hiong as Chief Executive Officer and Executive Director of the Manager. Mr. Chong was previously the Chief Executive of The Ascott Limited, the serviced residence arm of Singapore-based property firm CapitaLand.
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Just out of curiosity. What are the tax advantages of REITS in Singapore. If say a company decides to convert it's property holdings into a REIT, how much tax benefits will that company enjoy as compared to before. Thanks
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QUOTE(sylar111 @ Jun 13 2013, 01:33 AM)
Just out of curiosity. What are the tax advantages of REITS in Singapore. If say a company decides to convert it's property holdings into a REIT, how much tax benefits will that company enjoy as compared to before. Thanks
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In SG, I believe its similar to MY.

When the company converts into a Reits holding, they have to pay out 90% of their earnings in order
that they enjoy the tax benefits. In SG, when the company does that, tax for Divs is zero.
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jun 13 2013, 09:04 AM)
In SG, I believe its similar to MY.

When the company converts into a Reits holding, they have to pay out 90% of their earnings in order
that they enjoy the tax benefits. In SG, when the company does that, tax for Divs is zero.
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But I thought the same apply for all SGX shares.
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QUOTE(sylar111 @ Jun 13 2013, 12:02 PM)
But I thought the same apply for all SGX shares.
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Sure Kah ?

If all listed companies in SGX do not pay taxes , Govt got to eat grass hmm.gif
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jun 13 2013, 12:07 PM)
Sure Kah ?

If all listed companies in SGX do not pay taxes , Govt got to eat grass  hmm.gif
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Not pay tax on dividends la.
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QUOTE(sylar111 @ Jun 13 2013, 12:10 PM)
Not pay tax on dividends la.
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Who says so hmm.gif

It is only no double tax collected by the Govt mah

1) Co pays tax, so u do not have to pay one more time on Dividends collected aka tax collected at source .............

2) For reits, co does not have to pay, you too do not have to pay tax, same as 1 meh hmm.gif

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jun 13 2013, 12:17 PM)
Who says so  hmm.gif

It is only no double tax collected by the Govt mah

1) Co pays tax, so u do not have to pay one more time on Dividends collected aka tax collected  at source .............

2) For reits, co does not have to pay, you too do not have to pay tax, same as 1  meh  hmm.gif
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If I knew the answer I wun ask here right. Hai yo. Because I read that Company only pay Corporate Tax. So we do not need to pay for the tax on the dividend being paid to us anymore. So how much more tax is being paid in SGX normal shares then.

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QUOTE(sylar111 @ Jun 13 2013, 12:31 PM)
If I knew the answer I wun ask here right. Hai yo. Because I read that Company only pay Corporate Tax. So we do not need to pay for the tax on the dividend being paid to us anymore.
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From the same income ( source ) point of view and As a shareholder, your co or your asset is taxed at source.

U recd Dividend at net ( after tax ) .

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jun 13 2013, 12:44 PM)
From the same income ( source )  point of view and As a shareholder, your co or your asset is taxed at source.

U recd Dividend at  net  (  after tax ) .

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Dun tell me that this does not apply to REITS. I am pretty sure that REITS are also taxed. Just that the dividends are not taxed. If they are taxed then how much lesser they are taxed. Or their profits are not taxed at all. Which makes very little sense.

So basically company pays corporate tax. Then the dividends are taxed again before they come to us. But for REITS, the dividends are not taxed at all.

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QUOTE(sylar111 @ Jun 13 2013, 12:48 PM)
Dun tell me that this does not apply to REITS. I am pretty sure that REITS are also taxed. Just that the dividends are not taxed. If they are taxed then how much lesser they are taxed. Or their profits are not taxed at all. Which makes very little sense.
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Aiyah, u check lah IF S reits pay more than 90% of their profits as Dividends ,they do not need to pay tax lah.

Of course there is a condition attached , but not a hard one to achieve.

I spend u Teh Tarik if I am wrong , ok ?

No point fighting fighting here .

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But I thought the same apply for all SGX shares.
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No..thats why REits are given special status.
Otherwise why bother?

I don't have to pay any taxes on my divs whereas Msian Reits apply a 10% withholding tax on Divs

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SREITs – DBSV

As the dust settles, value emerges

Rising bond yields generally negative; but S-REITs’ ability to grow distributions a compensating factor

Impact of rising bond yields more “expected than real”

Buy Growth. Picks MCT, MAGIC, FCOT and Cache


S-REITs’ ability to grow distributions to compensate for rising bond yields/interest costs a key consideration. We believe that fears of the impact of rising bond yields on S-REITs are an over-reaction at this point as our economists do not expect QE to taper off anytime soon. Over the medium term, a rise in long bond yields is likely to be more gradual than abrupt and S-REITs’ continued ability to grow distributions (estimated at 4.0% y-o-y) is a compensating factor. Thus, we believe that the knee-jerk reaction seen in the S-REITs’ share prices (FSTREI index was down 10% YTD vs STI 5% dip in the past few weeks) is unwarranted.


Impact of rising bond yields “more expected than real”. We have assessed the impact of rising bond yields on our target prices, and the conclusions are: (i) Our analysis indicates that SREIT yield spread of 3.9% based on current share prices have factored long bonds of >2.5%. Prior experience shows that SREITs trade at a 350-390 bps spread when long bonds were above 2%. (ii) Impact from higher interest costs is managable at <3%. Active capital management has resulted in most S-REITs locking in >50% of their debt costs for the next 1 – 2 years. We estimate a 0.5% increase in interest rates to have a <3% impact on distributions, which we see as managable. (iii) NAVs appear safe for now. Worries of cap rate expansion impacting S-REITs’ book values negatively are valid but we do not see it as a concern at this point. Other than for office, we note that higher valuations for S-REIT portfolios (retail, industrial sub-sectors) are underpinned by higher income, which we believe make S-REITs’


NAVs more resilient.


Translation losses a potential risk. The INR, AUD and JPY weakened 2%, 7% and 27% against the S$ respectively since the start of 2013. Thus, S-REITs with exposures in these currencies might see earnings downside and NAV declines from translation losses. From the earnings front, we note that most SREITs have taken hedges to minimize impact.


S-REITs sell-off is over-done, Selective BUYs. We have been advocating a selective stance, and limit our picks to REITs which offer growth that is achievable and visible. We like Magic (BUY, TP S$1.22), MCT (BUY, TP S$1.53), FCOT (BUY TP $1.69) and Cache (BUY, TP S$1.47) for their better than peers’ growth prospects. We have also upgraded A-REIT (BUY, TP S$2.60) and MINT (BUY, TP S$1.63) from HOLD to BUYs on valuation grounds.


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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jun 13 2013, 01:17 PM)
No..thats why REits are given special status.
Otherwise why bother?

I don't have to pay any taxes on my divs whereas Msian Reits apply a 10% withholding tax on Divs
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I do not know why many reit investors are not aware of the above. yawn.gif



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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jun 13 2013, 01:43 PM)
I do not know  why many reit investors are not aware of the above.  yawn.gif
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They don't do their DD? smile.gif
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jun 13 2013, 01:49 PM)
They don't do their DD?  smile.gif
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To me, paying less tax is a way to overstress your dollars a bit more.

Look at what Apple is doing to its cash , maybe another story not linked to reits hmm.gif
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jun 13 2013, 01:17 PM)
No..thats why REits are given special status.
Otherwise why bother?

I don't have to pay any taxes on my divs whereas Msian Reits apply a 10% withholding tax on Divs
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ok. No wonder they can give so great returns.
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jun 13 2013, 01:43 PM)
I do not know  why many reit investors are not aware of the above.  yawn.gif
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I am not a REIT investor. I am just pondering on what are the benefits SPH enjoys when they created the new REIT. I can see very little change to the general management and the only benefit that I see is the tax benefits. I want to know whether when they reduce their holdings of their property, they can indeed still enjoy the same rate of income from their property assets even after their reduced holdings.

But it is still hard to imagine that REIT holders enjoy tax free profits.
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Sreit The dividend receive was not tax, MY one need to tax 10% witholding tax.....thats it close topic...... biggrin.gif
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can apply through local bank or have to open bank acc at sg to buy the reit?
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QUOTE(nightzstar @ Jun 13 2013, 08:17 PM)
can apply through local bank or have to open bank acc at sg to buy the reit?
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NO, unless ur premier banking accout holder and provided there got branch if not answer is no........ can buy thru local brokerage less hassle but higher commision for brokerage biasalah charge two side mah ...... nod.gif
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QUOTE(cwhong @ Jun 13 2013, 08:39 PM)
NO, unless ur premier banking accout holder and provided there got branch if not answer is no........ can buy thru local brokerage less hassle but higher commision for brokerage biasalah charge two side mah ......  nod.gif
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Local brokerage such as cimb investment bank? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(nightzstar @ Jun 13 2013, 08:56 PM)
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Yes......
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Price action indicates AREIT may show more resilience compared other S-REITs


US stocks ended lower and treasuries yield inched higher as concerns about QE3 continued to weigh. Investors will closely monitor the FED statement at the outcome of the FOMC meeting next Wednesday night. With triple witching


(expiration of stock index futures, stock index options & stock options) next Friday, US equity indices will be rocky, either way, over the next one week. China and HK markets re-open today.


S-REITs have been one of the worst affected in recent weeks as investors sold down yield names on concerns about QE drawdown. Recall that QE3 was announced in Sept last year. A check back on the price action shows that in line with STI’s


U-turn up, many S-REITs started to further their climb from last November as they benefited from the liquidity inflows.


S-REITs that have declined back to their respective Nov12 lows in the current correction would have effectively reversed and wiped out all the positive price action from the liquidity inflow prior to their decline. Chances are these would be


more resilient going forward compared to those that have yet to decline to their respective Nov12 levels. One SREIT that has fallen back to Nov12 level is AREIT. The stock’s Nov12 low is at $2.28. The stock undershoot that level yesterday to $2.22 but in an indication of bargain hunting, returned back to $2.30 by day’s end. Our analyst upgraded the stock to Buy earlier this week. We expect shares of AREIT to show more resilience going forward compared to other S-REITs. One


example of a S-REIT that has yet to fall to its Nov 12 low level, and thus more vulnerable to weakness, is Cambridge. The stock’s Nov12 month low was around $0.64.


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3 Myths Regarding Shari’ah Compliant REITs
Perhaps you have been admiring the performance of Shari’ah Compliant REITs and been wondering why they have attracted so much attention from institutional investors. Or perhaps you have at one time considered investing in a Shari’ah Compliant REIT but a lack of understanding of the product has put you off from getting vested.


Shari'ah Compliant REITs may include properties such as technology parks such as the above, a property under the Sabana Shari'ah Compliant REIT portfolio.

Either way, this short article aims to address the most common vexations that investors have with regards to this very niche class of securitized real estate investment known as the Shari’ah Compliant REIT.

What Are Shari’ah Compliant REITs and Islamic REITs?

Don’t let the names confuse you. Depending on your locality, Shari’ah Complaint REITs may also be known as Islamic REITs but they basically mean the same thing. Shari’ah Compliant REITs are Real Estate Investment Trusts that have taken a certain level of commitment towards partaking in activities that are deemed to be acceptable according to principles of Islamic jurisprudence. This generally includes refraining from tenancy activities with businesses that handle alcoholic beverages, gambling activities and other activities considered to be not aligned with the values of Islam such as brothels and clubs.

Besides adhering to regulatory requirements imposed by the bourse in which they list, Shari’ah Compliant REITs will also need to adhere to audits that will be conducted on them by certifying bodies such as the Accounting and Auditing Organization for Islamic Financial Institutions (AAOIFI) or independent Shari’ah surveyors to certify that they are indeed Shari’ah compliant.

For the sake of brevity, we will refer to them in this article by its more commonly used term – Shari’ah Complaint REIT. Examples of prominent Shari’ah Complaint REITs in this region today include Sabana Shari’ah Compliant REIT (Singapore), Al-Aqar Healthcare REIT (Malaysia) and Al-Hadharah Boustead REIT (Malaysia).

Myth 1: Shari’ah Compliant REITs Have Limited Earning Potential Due to Islamic Restrictions.

On the contrary, Shari’ah Compliant REITs have ample track record of giving reliable dividends even during times of economic slowdown. For example during the first five months of 2013, Sabana Shari’ah Compliant REIT topped the table by beating 21 other REITs listed on the Singapore Exchange when ranked according to 12-month historical dividend distribution yields. Institutional investors such as the Malaysian-government backed Pilgrims Board Fund have also increasingly taken on more units in Shari’ah Compliant REITs such as the Al-Aqar REIT.

But why is this so?

Shari’ah Compliant REITs have mostly resorted to industrial properties and healthcare properties as the bread and butter of their respective portfolios. This is due to the fact that tenancy activities within these two clusters are at the least likely to come afoul of Islamic jurisprudence principles as compared to a retail or hotel premises where alcoholic beverages are aplenty. It so happens that properties within these the industrial and healthcare sectors have also historically provided the most reliable yield vis-a-vis properties in sectors such as retail or hospitality. Hence it can be deduced that the stable nature of Shari’ah Compliant REITs is largely derived from the intrinsic nature of the properties that it invests in.

Myth 2: Shari’ah Compliant REITs absolutely will NOT take in tenants that handle alcoholic beverages.

This will mostly depend on the standard or model of Shari’ah compliance that the REIT has decided to take on. Most Shari’ah Compliant standards will have a certain level of tolerance towards non-permissible activities. For example Sabana REIT subscribes to the Gulf Coorperation Council (GCC) compliant standard which has a 5 percent tolerant level towards activities that are deemed to be not acceptable to Islam. This means that REITs that subscribe to this Shari’ah Compliant model may have a certain number of tenants who engage in non-permissible activities, such as wine storage, as long as it does not exceed 5 percent of the total gross revenue derived.

Other certifying bodies such as the Accounting and Auditing Organization for Islamic Financial Institutions (AAOIFI) may have a different model or tolerance level than the GCC before conferring a REIT the status of Shari’ah Compliant.

Myth 3: Only Muslims can partake in Shari’ah Compliant REITs.

Investors of all religious inclinations can partake in this investment vehicle. Shari’ah Compliant REITs have been established to ride on the growing demand, especially from investors in the Middle East, for investments that are aligned to their belief systems. But it has not been designed to exclude investors of any other faith.

In substance, Shari’ah Compliant REITs are no different from ethically-coded investment classes, such as environmentally friendly or fair-trade investments, in that the assets follow a certain moral code. But other than that it is not steeped in any peripheral dogma or exclusivity clauses.
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3 Myths Regarding Shari’ah Compliant REITs
Perhaps you have been admiring the performance of Shari’ah Compliant REITs and been wondering why they have attracted so much attention from institutional investors. Or perhaps you have at one time considered investing in a Shari’ah Compliant REIT but a lack of understanding of the product has put you off from getting vested.


Shari'ah Compliant REITs may include properties such as technology parks such as the above, a property under the Sabana Shari'ah Compliant REIT portfolio.

Either way, this short article aims to address the most common vexations that investors have with regards to this very niche class of securitized real estate investment known as the Shari’ah Compliant REIT.

What Are Shari’ah Compliant REITs and Islamic REITs?

Don’t let the names confuse you. Depending on your locality, Shari’ah Complaint REITs may also be known as Islamic REITs but they basically mean the same thing. Shari’ah Compliant REITs are Real Estate Investment Trusts that have taken a certain level of commitment towards partaking in activities that are deemed to be acceptable according to principles of Islamic jurisprudence. This generally includes refraining from tenancy activities with businesses that handle alcoholic beverages, gambling activities and other activities considered to be not aligned with the values of Islam such as brothels and clubs.

Besides adhering to regulatory requirements imposed by the bourse in which they list, Shari’ah Compliant REITs will also need to adhere to audits that will be conducted on them by certifying bodies such as the Accounting and Auditing Organization for Islamic Financial Institutions (AAOIFI) or independent Shari’ah surveyors to certify that they are indeed Shari’ah compliant.

For the sake of brevity, we will refer to them in this article by its more commonly used term – Shari’ah Complaint REIT. Examples of prominent Shari’ah Complaint REITs in this region today include Sabana Shari’ah Compliant REIT (Singapore), Al-Aqar Healthcare REIT (Malaysia) and Al-Hadharah Boustead REIT (Malaysia).

Myth 1: Shari’ah Compliant REITs Have Limited Earning Potential Due to Islamic Restrictions.

On the contrary, Shari’ah Compliant REITs have ample track record of giving reliable dividends even during times of economic slowdown. For example during the first five months of 2013, Sabana Shari’ah Compliant REIT topped the table by beating 21 other REITs listed on the Singapore Exchange when ranked according to 12-month historical dividend distribution yields. Institutional investors such as the Malaysian-government backed Pilgrims Board Fund have also increasingly taken on more units in Shari’ah Compliant REITs such as the Al-Aqar REIT.

But why is this so?

Shari’ah Compliant REITs have mostly resorted to industrial properties and healthcare properties as the bread and butter of their respective portfolios. This is due to the fact that tenancy activities within these two clusters are at the least likely to come afoul of Islamic jurisprudence principles as compared to a retail or hotel premises where alcoholic beverages are aplenty. It so happens that properties within these the industrial and healthcare sectors have also historically provided the most reliable yield vis-a-vis properties in sectors such as retail or hospitality. Hence it can be deduced that the stable nature of Shari’ah Compliant REITs is largely derived from the intrinsic nature of the properties that it invests in.

Myth 2: Shari’ah Compliant REITs absolutely will NOT take in tenants that handle alcoholic beverages.

This will mostly depend on the standard or model of Shari’ah compliance that the REIT has decided to take on. Most Shari’ah Compliant standards will have a certain level of tolerance towards non-permissible activities. For example Sabana REIT subscribes to the Gulf Coorperation Council (GCC) compliant standard which has a 5 percent tolerant level towards activities that are deemed to be not acceptable to Islam. This means that REITs that subscribe to this Shari’ah Compliant model may have a certain number of tenants who engage in non-permissible activities, such as wine storage, as long as it does not exceed 5 percent of the total gross revenue derived.

Other certifying bodies such as the Accounting and Auditing Organization for Islamic Financial Institutions (AAOIFI) may have a different model or tolerance level than the GCC before conferring a REIT the status of Shari’ah Compliant.

Myth 3: Only Muslims can partake in Shari’ah Compliant REITs.

Investors of all religious inclinations can partake in this investment vehicle. Shari’ah Compliant REITs have been established to ride on the growing demand, especially from investors in the Middle East, for investments that are aligned to their belief systems. But it has not been designed to exclude investors of any other faith.

In substance, Shari’ah Compliant REITs are no different from ethically-coded investment classes, such as environmentally friendly or fair-trade investments, in that the assets follow a certain moral code. But other than that it is not steeped in any peripheral dogma or exclusivity clauses.
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What happened to Singapore equities amidst fears of early QE3 cut back

Were they badly hit?

According to DBS, given the recent volatility in global bond markets and the negative spill over into equity and currency markets, investors will be closely monitoring the FED’s guidance and intentions on asset purchases from the outcome of this week’s FOMC meeting.

DBS Economics Research sees reasons for the FED to sit tight rather than taper asset purchases. US GDP growth in the next 2 quarters is expected to read 1.4%, not much better than the previous two and less than half the long-term average as the impact of the US85bil sequester cut is felt from April-Sept.

Here's more from DBS:


While the recent headline improvement in US unemployment rate led investors to set a straight line projection for the jobless rate to fall to 6.5%, which is one of the triggers for the FED to exit QE3 and raise interest rates, we believe things are never that simple.

Our economist notes that recent manufacturing data has weakened again with the May PMI falling to 49, the lowest since June 2009.

The employment rate sub-indices for both the ISM manufacturing and services have also dipped. If these weaknesses persist, the pace of improvement of the unemployment rate can moderate or even reverse.

Singapore equities were sold down in recent weeks in anticipation of an early QE3 cut back, but the sell-down appears to have reached a short-term support last week.

Consensus expectations are for the FED to reduce the monthly bond purchases to USD65bil from the current US85bil by September and start raising interest rates by Mar15.

Any less from the FED this week can trigger a further rebound in equity prices.
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Hi guys, I wonder how the T+3 settlement calculated?

Let's say I buy a stock today (25/06/2013), when will be the settlement date? Is it 27/06/2013 or 28/06/2013?

Beside that, what time the money will be deducted on settlement date?

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QUOTE(cwhong @ Jun 20 2013, 01:52 PM)
target suntec, at today lowest price ...... hope i'll get it ......
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suntec giving near 6% dividend.. why need to go across border?
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QUOTE(holybo @ Jun 25 2013, 10:34 PM)
suntec giving near 6% dividend.. why need to go across border?
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My first buying was abt two yrs ago, now just toping up...... So my yield maybe more than that.....

Forgot to update already top up.....

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Another round of result announcements coming soon!
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Yes.

Most S-REITs will be releasing their quarterly results over the next 2 weeks. smile.gif
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How much charges for ... Local brokerage? If everything at SG... Because next month will go SG work !
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How much charges for ... Local brokerage? If everything at SG... Because next month will go SG work !
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Congratz for sg job, here u go...... go check it up.... u may need to share on it once u are familiar with the investing environment there....... looking forward ur posting...... notworthy.gif http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/stocks-s...3628498-26.html
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Congratz for sg job, here u go...... go check it up.... u may need to share on it once u are familiar with the investing environment there....... looking forward ur posting......  notworthy.gif  http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/stocks-s...3628498-26.html
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sure blush.gif ... no problem sifu Cwhong!
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4 Reasons Why REITs Are Better Investments Than Real Estate


By REITsWeek


Scottish American industrialist and philanthropist Andrew Carnegie once said that 90 percent of millionaires became so through owning real estate. This wisdom, though dispensed in the 18th century, is a wisdom that has persisted today judging from the popularity of real estate as an investment class.

There is nothing inherently erroneous in this advice despite the carnage that has unfolded in recent years in the real estate market. As an asset class, real estate investments generate a reliable stream of income besides holding the prospect of capital appreciation. And unlike the yesteryears when real estate investments are within reach of only the very wealthy, prospective investors today can participate in real estate investments through a Real Estate Investment Trust (REIT).

But the popularity of REITs in recent years has brought about a perennial debate as to which is a better mode of investment, buying real estate physically or holding it in a REIT? Each method has its own merits but this article we will discuss four advantages that REITs investors have over traditional property investors.

Scalability
Real estate, be it a single building or an estate, will require constant maintenance and repair. Certain property types such as shopping malls will require even greater maintenance costs as they will need to sustain a decent façade in order to attract shoppers and continue generating income. An investor who puts his money on a single property will need to consider the expenditures on leaking roofs, faulty plumbing or termite infestations as part of his investment costs. In some cases, these costs can be quite hefty and may not be easily recoverable from the tenant.

In REITs, building maintenance costs, or more commonly referred to as capital expenditures (CAPEX), are borne by the REIT managers and are in effect distributed across many shareholders. In some cases, favourable lease terms allow these costs to be passed on to the tenants, practically absolving the REIT investor from any sort of building maintenance costs. As a REITs investor, it is unlikely that you will see CAPEX making significant impact on the returns of your investment. This is the scalability that REITs investors enjoy over property owners.

Diversity
Owning a single property would usually mean that your fortunes are pretty much tied up in the sector that your property is vested in. For example, if you own a small factory complex, it is unlikely that you will benefit from the surge of tourist arrivals in your country. And should the demand for manufacturing slows, you may be in trouble finding a tenant for the property.

REITs investors are able to expose themselves to several sectors of the economy at any one time by distributing their investments across different REIT categories such as Retail REITs (to benefit from surges in consumer spending), Hospitality REITs (to ride on tourist arrivals) or Healthcare REITs (to benefit from increased spending on medical services). This minimises the risk that an investor is over exposed to just one particular sector of an economy. To achieve the same level of diversity with traditional property holdings would require a very hefty investment.

Professional Management
An investor who decides to buy and manage a property as an investment will usually have to depend upon himself in managing the property including renovations, sourcing for tenants and making sure that the building adheres to local safety regulations. These functions can be outsourced to third parties, but this would severely increase the costs of managing the property and erode the returns on investment.

REITs on the other hand are managed by dedicated teams of REIT managers who make it a daily endeavour to look for growth opportunities while keeping borrowing costs low. REIT managers are also very experienced in financing and asset enhancement strategies, often increasing the value of the properties that they manage over time. This is the advantage of having a professional management that REITs investors enjoy over traditional property investors.

Favourable Tax Rulings
In many economies, building owners are liable to annual property taxes, administration fees and stamp duties, on top of paying personal income taxes as an investor. The combination of these taxes can be very overwhelming.

REITs on the other hand are largely exempt from paying taxes at the REIT level in virtually most economies as long as they distribute at least 90 percent of their income to shareholders. In economies like Singapore, the government has gone even further to exempt REITs investors from paying taxes on capital gains and dividends from REITs. Tax rulings vary across the different economies. But one similarity that these economies have is the markedly favourable tax rulings that REITs investors enjoy over the traditional property investor.

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Singapore REITs Sink as Chinese Stocks Slump - by REITSWEEK

Shares in China tumbled from their two-week highs after the Chinese government indicated that it will pull the plug on credit to industries that are currently facing over capacity issues. Markets in Asia responded by sliding to their lowest levels in weeks. Singapore's benchmark Straits Times Index closed the day lower by 0.45 percent to end at 3155.

However the damage was significantly larger for the frothy Singapore REITs market as heavyweights such as Ascendas REIT tumbling to their lowest levels since 23 July 2012. The FTSE ST Real Estate Index, largely seen as a barometer of Singapore REITs, tumbled by 1.63 percent to close at 734 points. The top 10 losers for the day are tabulated as follows:


REIT Last Drop (S$) % Drop
Fortune REIT 6.700 -0.250 -3.60
Keppel REIT 1.290 -0.045 -3.37
Frasers Commercial Trust 1.330 -0.045 -3.27
First REIT 1.190 -0.040 -3.25
Mapletree Commercial Trust 1.150 -0.035 -2.95
Starhill Global REIT 0.830 -0.025 -2.92
Frasers Centrepoint Trust 1.840 -0.055 -2.90
Cambridge Industrial Trust 0.710 -0.020 -2.74
Ascendas REIT 2.210 -0.060 -2.64
AIMS AMP Industrial Trust 1.585 -0.040 -2.46

In the near term, Singapore REITs are facing a risk of tighter monetary policies by the US Federal Reserve and the Chinese Central Bank. Should current liquidity levels taper down, the nation state could be seeing capital outflows from the property market, further weighing down on REITs for a foreseeable future.



Similarly, MY REITs prices are moving downwards too lately .. is this the time to pick or drop?

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QUOTE(numbertwo @ Jul 17 2013, 10:34 AM)
In the near term, Singapore REITs are facing a risk of tighter monetary policies by the US Federal Reserve and the Chinese Central Bank. Should current liquidity levels taper down, the nation state could be seeing capital outflows from the property market, further weighing down on REITs for a foreseeable future.
Similarly, MY REITs prices are moving downwards too lately .. is this the time to pick or drop?
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How much bond yield? 3%?
How much S-REIT's yield? 6%?
Why wasted that 3% to switch to bond from REIT?
Debt concern? That's just like 3% decrease for 50bp hike. We are talking about 3% vs 50% difference here.
I see this selling down more speculative than being realistic. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Dividend Warrior @ Jul 14 2013, 08:08 AM)
Yes.

Most S-REITs will be releasing their quarterly results over the next 2 weeks.  smile.gif
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Anywhere I can view the result for all REIT?
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Anywhere I can view the result for all REIT?
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SGX.com webpage. smile.gif
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Anywhere I can view the result for all REIT?
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SGX.com webpage. smile.gif
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QUOTE(Dividend Warrior @ Jul 18 2013, 12:15 AM)
SGX.com webpage. smile.gif
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Oh ok, thanks.
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Result for CapitaMall Trust is out! rclxm9.gif

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Suntec REIT result is out. biggrin.gif

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Sabana REIT result is out. icon_idea.gif

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Ascendas REIT result is out. icon_rolleyes.gif

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Strong demand for SPH Reit IPO, public tranche 25 times subscribed

Singapore Press Holdings' real estate investment trust (Reit) offering has seen a red-hot response from both investors large and small, despite being launched at the top end of its indicated price range.

The initial public offering (IPO) featured 308.9 million shares at 90 cents each, raising a total of $504 million. The indicative price range was 85 to 90 cents.

The public tranche of about 84 million units was about 25 times subscribed, with 71,190 valid applications for 2.1 billion units.

Of these, just 36,389 applicants were successful, and they got far fewer units than what they were hoping for.
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Starhill Global Reit Q2 DPU up 10.2%


STARHILL Global Reit on Tuesday posted distribution per unit (DPU) of 1.19 cents for the fiscal second quarter ended June 30, a 10.2 per cent increase from DPU of 1.08 cents reported a year ago.

Income available for distribution rose 14.7 per cent to $26.75 million from $23.31 million a year ago, and unitholders can expect to receive their share of distribution on August 23.

Backed by strong contribution from its Singapore portfolio and full quarter contributions from the recently acquired Plaza Arcade, net property income rose 5.2 per cent to $39.07 million from $37.14 million a year earlier, while revenue rose 6 per cent year-on-year to $49.13 million.

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Lotte Shopping Said to Plan $1 Billion Singapore IPO of Malls

Lotte Shopping Co. (023530), South Korea’s largest department store operator, is planning an initial public offering in Singapore of some of its shopping malls, said two people with knowledge of the matter.

The sale may raise at least $1 billion and could take place as early as this year, said the people, asking not to be identified as the process is private. The company is still deciding which properties it will include in the sale, which will either be in the form of a business trust or a real-estate investment trust, the people said.

At $1 billion, the IPO would be the third-largest in Singapore this year after sales by Mapletree Greater China Commercial Trust (MAGIC) and Asian Pay Television Trust (APTT), data compiled by Bloomberg show. REITs and business trusts were the biggest fundraisers in Singapore’s IPO market in the past year, raising $4.6 billion out of a total $5.3 billion, the data show.

DBS Group Holdings Ltd., Goldman Sachs Group Inc., Nomura Holdings Inc. and Standard Chartered Plc are managing the sale, the people said.
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Jul 23 2013, 08:19 PM)
Strong demand for SPH Reit IPO, public tranche 25 times subscribed

Singapore Press Holdings' real estate investment trust (Reit) offering has seen a red-hot response from both investors large and small, despite being launched at the top end of its indicated price range.

The initial public offering (IPO) featured 308.9 million shares at 90 cents each, raising a total of $504 million. The indicative price range was 85 to 90 cents.

The public tranche of about 84 million units was about 25 times subscribed, with 71,190 valid applications for 2.1 billion units.

Of these, just 36,389 applicants were successful, and they got far fewer units than what they were hoping for.
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they want buy ipo but sell existing shares. funny. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Dividend Warrior @ Jul 20 2013, 11:54 AM)
Sabana REIT result is out.  icon_idea.gif

Click here for result
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Hey DW, I wonder when is the dividend distribution will deposit into our account?

I got the dividend on 30 May 2013. But looking at the date, is refer to which one?

DIVIDEND
Ex.Date: 23 Jul 2013
010413 - 300613 SGD 0.024 LESS TAX

DIVIDEND
Ex.Date: 24 Apr 2013
010113 - 310313 SGD 0.0241 LESS TAX
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QUOTE(almeizer @ Jul 28 2013, 12:54 PM)
Hey DW, I wonder when is the dividend distribution will deposit into our account?

I got the dividend on 30 May 2013. But looking at the date, is refer to which one?

DIVIDEND
Ex.Date: 23 Jul 2013
010413 - 300613 SGD 0.024 LESS TAX

DIVIDEND
Ex.Date: 24 Apr 2013
010113 - 310313 SGD 0.0241 LESS TAX
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for 24 april.. the 23 July one will pay you after 23 July ma.. and you got it on 30 May sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Dividend Warrior @ Jul 20 2013, 11:54 AM)
Sabana REIT result is out.  icon_idea.gif

Click here for result
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hi, i have read your blogs, kinda impressive that you can gain monthly income around 1k. I wonder how is it possible? hmm.gif mind to guide me? Thanks notworthy.gif
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Time to reconsider SReits?
http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/in-the-edge...er-s-reits.html
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QUOTE(mopster @ Aug 5 2013, 02:53 PM)
one concern is ringgit now at low point but S$ at high point. we may loss 5% or so when both currency stabilize (ringgit rebound, S$ consolidate)? hmm.gif
s-reit now do looks yummy. however, i hated that by trading through cimb itrade, they even charged for dividend payment! not cheap also, if only small holdings, may be as high as 10-15% since they got a min charge fees.

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QUOTE(yok70 @ Aug 6 2013, 12:53 AM)
one concern is ringgit now at low point but S$ at high point. we may loss 5% or so when both currency stabilize (ringgit rebound, S$ consolidate)?  hmm.gif
s-reit now do looks yummy. however, i hated that by trading through cimb itrade, they even charged for dividend payment! not cheap also, if only small holdings, may be as high as 10-15% since they got a min charge fees.
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hehehe should've just go to SG and open a trading acct. there tongue.gif
slowly transfer bullet there when rate is good...
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hehehe should've just go to SG and open a trading acct. there tongue.gif
slowly transfer bullet there when rate is good...
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any suggestion ? which one easier SGX broker

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what is the max gearing allowed in SG Reit ?

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More pain to come for Singapore REITs?
http://www.cnbc.com/id/100998637

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QUOTE(yok70 @ Aug 6 2013, 12:53 AM)
one concern is ringgit now at low point but S$ at high point. we may loss 5% or so when both currency stabilize (ringgit rebound, S$ consolidate)?  hmm.gif
s-reit now do looks yummy. however, i hated that by trading through cimb itrade, they even charged for dividend payment! not cheap also, if only small holdings, may be as high as 10-15% since they got a min charge fees.
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Buy through DBS Vickers lar.. 0.18% min $18 tongue.gif Malaysian welcome to apply... e-dividend straight to DBS savings account

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this thread seems ultra quiet!

rm strengthend a bit today.

made my maiden purchase today - small amounts of sabana and starhill.

may buy some suntec and aimsampi later on.

appreciate any comment!
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Sep 10 2013, 11:27 AM)
this thread seems ultra quiet!

rm strengthend a bit today.

made my maiden purchase today - small amounts of sabana and starhill.

may buy some suntec and aimsampi later on.

appreciate any comment!
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For what its worth, Sabana has yet to renew over 40% of its leases set to expire in NOv.

That is a major concern.

Aims looks pretty

am invested in both Sabana and Aims

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For what its worth, Sabana has yet to renew over 40% of its leases set to expire in NOv.

That is a major concern.

Aims looks pretty

am invested in both Sabana and Aims
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Bought more LippoMalls recently after its major fall sweat.gif
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Bought more LippoMalls recently after its major fall  sweat.gif
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Should be good....only thing earnings in Rupiah. So currency issues.
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For what its worth, Sabana has yet to renew over 40% of its leases set to expire in NOv.

That is a major concern.

given that it's industrial, should not be too bad.
industrial rentals on the island are still very strong, i believe, unlike here!

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Bought more LippoMalls recently after its major fall  sweat.gif
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Sep 10 2013, 02:27 PM)
Should be good....only thing earnings in Rupiah.  So currency issues.
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nod.gif tis 1 veli tempting!

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given that it's industrial, should not be too bad.
industrial rentals on the island are still very strong, i believe, unlike here!
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Yes BUT..........40% wor.............that's a lotta earnings if they cannot renew!

So its a risk
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Yes BUT..........40% wor.............that's a lotta earnings if they cannot renew!

So its a risk
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such a current high yield, think can tahan! biggrin.gif
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Bought more LippoMalls recently after its major fall  sweat.gif
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bro, can share wat u think it'll get to by year end?
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bro, can share wat u think it'll get to by year end?
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heheh - sorry bro.
i didnt buy based on price expectations, i bought based on the expected DY% based on $0.43 tongue.gif
i'm a simpleton when buying REITs - just based on NAPS vs Price, D/E (or gearing) and DY%.
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heheh - sorry bro.
i didnt buy based on price expectations, i bought based on the expected DY% based on $0.43 tongue.gif
i'm a simpleton when buying REITs - just based on NAPS vs Price, D/E (or gearing) and DY%.
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okie okie...

will watch closely tmrw... i like to think the rupiah-sgd isn't going to get any worse! biggrin.gif
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Buy through DBS Vickers lar.. 0.18% min $18  tongue.gif Malaysian welcome to apply... e-dividend straight to DBS savings account
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Taikor.. how to open DBS Vickers trading acc? Can open at DBS branch ar?
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Taikor.. how to open DBS Vickers trading acc? Can open at DBS branch ar?
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Can.... but first must open dbs saving account and e banking. Then can link into vickers.
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heheh - sorry bro.
i didnt buy based on price expectations, i bought based on the expected DY% based on $0.43 tongue.gif
i'm a simpleton when buying REITs - just based on NAPS vs Price, D/E (or gearing) and DY%.
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Weak Rupiah also means devaluation of its assets in Indon, gearing will go up... right?


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Can.... but first must open dbs saving account and e banking. Then can link into vickers.
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Great.. tot of going to SG to settle both savings and trading acc on the same day... doable?
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Great.. tot of going to SG to settle both savings and trading acc on the same day... doable?
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Yep should be able to.... they will give you a pin generator for internet access. Min 2k sgd to open acct, bring passport, ic, bills confirming your address.

Best give a call or email them for the requirements and documents just in case got changes. Last time i did it was through thier main branch at thier hq.

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Weak Rupiah also means devaluation of its assets in Indon, gearing will go up... right?
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erm... methinks it depends.. on what its majority debt's currency is based on

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On the Rupiah vs SGD, methinks it's similar to the Q where a forumer was asking in REITs topic/thread, something like:
"If i buy SG REITs, can i make more than MY REITs since SGD higher exchange than RM?"
it doesn't matter the exchange rate coz DY% is based on cost paid
thus if i paid SGD$1 and get 10%
VS
i paid MYR$1 and get 10%
which higher profits? doh.gif
Similar to buying Indonesia REITs in SGD right?
higher SGD buys more rupiahs, thus the "cost" is cheaper? huh? or rupiah so weak against SGD, worth it ar?
hehe i'm no ForEx expert yar, just basing on common-sense where if one pays $x, get worthwhile y%, i dont care what currency as long as it's a usable currency.
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SGD $10 to $1 DonkeyDollar (factitious) - weak right?
well, if i buy REIT in DonkeyDollar and get 10%yield, convert back to SGD, do i still get 10%yield?
should be, unless DonkeyDollar falls several points against SGD - ie. spiral of death sweat.gif
again - i stand to be corrected & learn better yar notworthy.gif pls shed some light if anyone knows better

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Sep 10 2013, 11:06 PM)
erm... methinks it depends.. on what its majority debt's currency is based on

AVFan
On the Rupiah vs SGD, methinks it's similar to the Q where a forumer was asking in REITs topic/thread, something like:
"If i buy SG REITs, can i make more than MY REITs since SGD higher exchange than RM?"
it doesn't matter the exchange rate coz DY% is based on cost paid
thus if i paid SGD$1 and get 10%
VS
i paid MYR$1 and get 10%
which higher profits?  doh.gif
Similar to buying Indonesia REITs in SGD right?
higher SGD buys more rupiahs, thus the "cost" is cheaper? huh? or rupiah so weak against SGD, worth it ar?
hehe i'm no ForEx expert yar, just basing on common-sense where if one pays $x, get worthwhile y%, i dont care what currency as long as it's a usable currency.
eg.
SGD $10 to $1 DonkeyDollar (factitious) - weak right?
well, if i buy REIT in DonkeyDollar and get 10%yield, convert back to SGD, do i still get 10%yield?
should be, unless DonkeyDollar falls several points against SGD - ie. spiral of death  sweat.gif
again - i stand to be corrected & learn better yar notworthy.gif pls shed some light if anyone knows better
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Lippomalls earn in rupiah, but have to pay out in sgd. Exchange rate matters. Also thier loan us in sgd while thier assets us in rp. A devaluation means thier assets is worth less in sgd. wink.gif
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QUOTE(gark @ Sep 10 2013, 11:24 PM)
Lippomalls earn in rupiah, but have to pay out in sgd. Exchange rate matters. Also thier loan us in sgd while thier assets us in rp. A devaluation means thier assets is worth less in sgd.  wink.gif
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that wud be my take too.

i'm taking the position that the rupiah and the reit price in sgd has seen its worst, can't get worse. if the rupiah recovers like the indian rupee, the future div payout in sgd wud improve, thus giving a better yield in future (for my price) than what it is now. or reit price moves back up. correct ar? hmm.gif

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bro, can share wat u think it'll get to by year end?
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When investing in REITs, best not to expect too much price increase gains.

Just take that if it happens as bonus.

Yield is the name of the game
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Great.. tot of going to SG to settle both savings and trading acc on the same day... doable?
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however the DBS savings account, need to update regularly? meaning, hv to make appearance on annual basis to
Sg just to do banking transaction? or it will be DORMANT account? or is the banking account operational online?

How about opening a MAYBANK ac Singapore? can the Maybank account be updated LOCALLY?

Any idea?

I am tabulating the COST difference of buying REITS by opening an ac in Singapore versus
buying via APEX E TRADE.


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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Sep 11 2013, 10:06 AM)
AV

When investing in REITs, best not to expect too much price increase gains.

Just take that if it happens as bonus.

Yield is the name of the game
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ya, i wud be less concerned if it's rm in rm reit.
was just checking if there are strong views on this particular reit revenues in rupiah.
from the recent movement, rupiah seems to have stablized, improving, which is better news than the other way round!
anyway, picked up a bit of lippo just now. smile.gif
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Sep 11 2013, 10:15 AM)
ya, i wud be less concerned if it's rm in rm reit.
was just checking if there are strong views on this particular reit revenues in rupiah.
from the recent movement, rupiah seems to have stablized, improving, which is better news than the other way round!
anyway, picked up a bit of lippo just now. smile.gif
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Same here... Got myself some 8% yielding Lippo. thumbup.gif
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Same here... Got myself some 8% yielding Lippo. thumbup.gif
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Just bear in mind, that yield was before Rupiah tanked.........how much has Rupiah corrected against SGD?
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however the DBS savings account, need to update regularly? meaning, hv to make appearance on annual basis to
Sg just to do banking transaction? or it will be DORMANT account? or is the banking account operational online?

How about opening a MAYBANK ac Singapore? can the Maybank account be updated LOCALLY?

Any idea?

I am tabulating the COST difference of buying REITS by opening an ac in Singapore versus
buying via APEX E TRADE.
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So far no need, never touch for 1-2 years also they never dormant my account, make sure you have the MINIMUM 2k at the acct at all times. When opening the account you say you just want to save long term and you are not frequent to SG, they will understand. thumbup.gif\

As far as I knwo maybenk sg and maybank my is separate entitiy..

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Called DBS and DBS Vickers.. can open both acc in any DBS branch... bring along IC, 3 months payslips, utility bill showing the residential address ... then deposit some money into savings acc .... min average balance in savings shd b SGD 5000 otherwise 2 bucks will be deducted per month

Going there next month smile.gif
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Share some knowledge with me.

I have S$10,000 to invest (which is not much compare to big players). I am thinking of which country especially Malaysia REIT and Singapore REIT to invest in?

My aim is to collect dividend yield for a long term.

Advantages of Malaysia is the currency exchange $2.60.

Please share some thoughts with me smile.gif


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QUOTE(bryrene @ Sep 12 2013, 01:41 PM)
Share some knowledge with me.

I have S$10,000 to invest (which is not much compare to big players). I am thinking of which country especially Malaysia REIT and Singapore REIT to invest in?

My aim is to collect dividend yield for a long term.

Advantages of Malaysia is the currency exchange $2.60.

Please share some thoughts with me smile.gif
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MY reit = 10% tax on dividend

SG reit = 0% tax on dividend

Good enough reason? wink.gif

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QUOTE(gark @ Sep 11 2013, 10:43 AM)
So far no need, never touch for 1-2 years also they never dormant my account, make sure you have the MINIMUM 2k at the acct at all times. When opening the account you say you just want to save long term and you are not frequent to SG, they will understand.  thumbup.gif\

As far as I knwo maybenk sg and maybank my is separate entitiy..
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ur SG cds acc is maybank or DBS ? hv to go sg open acc?


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Just bear in mind, that yield was before Rupiah tanked.........how much has Rupiah corrected against SGD?
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About 15%...

Before collapse 8,300 rp = 1 sgd

Now 9,500 rp = 1 sgd
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ur SG cds acc is maybank or DBS ? hv to go sg open acc?
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I keep in DBS acct, yes have to go to SG to open account. One time only, after that everything can do by internet banking...

Take night train from KTM cheap... tongue.gif

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Called DBS and DBS Vickers.. can open both acc in any DBS branch... bring along IC, 3 months payslips, utility bill showing the residential address ... then deposit some money into savings acc .... min average balance in savings shd b SGD 5000 otherwise 2 bucks will be deducted per month

Going there next month smile.gif
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Wow now minimum is 5k sgd ah.. last time open 2k, so far never charge me anything also.

Anyway welcome to the club. thumbup.gif


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One small tip. If open POSB savings instead of DBS acc, only need to maintain $500 balance. POSB is part of the DBS group
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One small tip. If open POSB savings instead of DBS acc, only need to maintain $500 balance. POSB is part of the DBS group
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Only if your are Singaporean or PR.. if foreigners still need SGD 5k or SGD2 per month. tongue.gif

http://www.posb.com.sg/personal/deposit/sa...er/default.page
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QUOTE(gark @ Sep 12 2013, 06:20 PM)
About 15%...

Before collapse 8,300 rp = 1 sgd

Now 9,500 rp = 1 sgd
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About 15%...

Before collapse 8,300 rp = 1 sgd

Now 9,500 rp = 1 sgd
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Meaning I would only risk buying Lippo at least 15% lower than the price before the correction.
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Sabana cheap sale now.............don't know what happened.

1.06 now

Just saw news


CLOSE OF PRIVATE PLACEMENT OF 40,000,000 NEW UNITS (“NEW UNITS”)
IN SABANA SHARI’AH COMPLIANT INDUSTRIAL REAL ESTATE INVESTMENT TRUST
(“SABANA REIT”) AT AN ISSUE PRICE OF S$1.00 PER NEW UNIT (THE “ISSUE PRICE”)

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Sep 13 2013, 09:02 AM)
Sabana cheap sale now.............don't know what happened.

1.06 now

Just saw news
CLOSE OF PRIVATE PLACEMENT OF 40,000,000 NEW UNITS (“NEW UNITS”)
IN SABANA SHARI’AH COMPLIANT INDUSTRIAL REAL ESTATE INVESTMENT TRUST
(“SABANA REIT”) AT AN ISSUE PRICE OF S$1.00 PER NEW UNIT (THE “ISSUE PRICE”)
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high percentage of tenancy expiry year end, so far still not secure ..... maybe this is the cause .... if not mistaken about 40%
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high percentage of tenancy expiry year end, so far still not secure ..... maybe this is the cause .... if not mistaken about 40%
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Yes But that does not explain Sudden drop..

The placement price at Sg1.00 may b the reason
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Sabana cheap sale now.............don't know what happened.

1.06 now

Just saw news
CLOSE OF PRIVATE PLACEMENT OF 40,000,000 NEW UNITS (“NEW UNITS”)
IN SABANA SHARI’AH COMPLIANT INDUSTRIAL REAL ESTATE INVESTMENT TRUST
(“SABANA REIT”) AT AN ISSUE PRICE OF S$1.00 PER NEW UNIT (THE “ISSUE PRICE”)
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Dilution from private placement which is discount to market price...
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Dilution from private placement which is discount to market price...
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Yessum 40mil new shares

whats their issued share numbers?
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Sabana

IPO price was SGD1.05

Issued shares 1.9 b

so 40mil new shares not so much

only 2% dilute but its SGD40mil in the coffers
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I keep in DBS acct, yes have to go to SG to open account. One time only, after that everything can do by internet banking...

Take night train from KTM cheap... tongue.gif
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Sorry, silly question.. how to bank in and take out money from the SG BANK AC from Malaysia?

How to pay for the online shares?

and dividend received is automatically banked into the SG BANK AC... right?

How to take out the money without going to Singapore?


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Sorry, silly question.. how to bank in and take out money from the SG BANK AC from Malaysia?

How to pay for the online shares?

and dividend received is automatically banked into the SG BANK AC... right?

How to take out the money without going to Singapore?
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1. To put money. TT from Malaysia bank to SG Bank - Cost RM 10 + forex.

2. Using DBS online account, the payment will be debited from your savings account as long as DBS Vickers is linkedto your account. Sales procceds and dividend also go back to your savings account.

3. To take out money. Online TT from SG Bank to MY Bank laugh.gif
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nice to see some sg reits gaining 2-3% today! thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Sep 13 2013, 09:54 AM)
Sabana

IPO price was SGD1.05

Issued shares 1.9 b

so 40mil new shares not so much

only 2% dilute but its SGD40mil in the coffers
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SG reits always issue new shares.. if wanna treat it as passive income is not that good.. cos whenever issue new share you need to subscribe in order not to dilute your earnings.. so all the dividend received invest back in (read from somewhere)
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any platform can check SGX counters dividend yield?
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QUOTE(Suicidal Guy @ Sep 16 2013, 08:07 PM)
SG reits always issue new shares.. if wanna treat it as passive income is not that good.. cos whenever issue new share you need to subscribe in order not to dilute your earnings.. so all the dividend received invest back in (read from somewhere)
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Well....unless you issue new shares, you are not gonna get new properties to increase your portfolio
especially when your debt ratio is high.
If its accretive to earnings, why not?
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Here you go


http://reitdata.com/
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1. To put money. TT from Malaysia bank to SG Bank - Cost RM 10 + forex.

2. Using DBS online account, the payment will be debited from your savings account as long as DBS Vickers is linkedto your account. Sales procceds and dividend also go back to your savings account.

3. To take out money. Online TT from SG Bank to MY Bank  laugh.gif
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bro,

That only Reits... i want that singtel ... and others... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(davidcch07 @ Sep 17 2013, 05:03 PM)
bro,

That only Reits... i want that singtel ... and others...  biggrin.gif
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Ahem..this a SG REITs thread biggrin.gif
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Well....unless you issue new shares, you are not gonna get new properties to increase your portfolio
especially when your debt ratio is high.
If its accretive to earnings, why not?
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i mean, when we have retired and no more active income, we depend on the dividends. instead, we need to fork out more money than dividends received to subscribe to new shares. i think some reits like axreit sells of properties for capital gain to acquire new properties that can give better earnings. if we have extra cash, then we can choose to add more shares. if not, then just collect dividends.
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QUOTE(davidcch07 @ Sep 17 2013, 05:03 PM)
bro,

That only Reits... i want that singtel ... and others...  biggrin.gif
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Check the reitdata.com, should find the yieldstock links..... At right hand side ....
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QUOTE(Suicidal Guy @ Sep 17 2013, 11:14 PM)
i mean, when we have retired and no more active income, we depend on the dividends. instead, we need to fork out more money than dividends received to subscribe to new shares. i think some reits like axreit sells of properties for capital gain to acquire new properties that can give better earnings. if we have extra cash, then we can choose to add more shares. if not, then just collect dividends.
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Methinks no one promotes REITs was for retirement per se? biggrin.gif

FDs could be better bet for Retirement.
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1. To put money. TT from Malaysia bank to SG Bank - Cost RM 10 + forex.

2. Using DBS online account, the payment will be debited from your savings account as long as DBS Vickers is linkedto your account. Sales procceds and dividend also go back to your savings account.

3. To take out money. Online TT from SG Bank to MY Bank  laugh.gif
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the dividend will be banked into the savings account. Will they mail us the vouchers? or annual report etc?
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the dividend will be banked into the savings account. Will they mail us the vouchers? or annual report etc?
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Voucher yes, Annual report download from SGX website ler. tongue.gif

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bro,

That only Reits... i want that singtel ... and others...  biggrin.gif
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SGX dividend stock tracker.. all info continuously updated. Enjoy... laugh.gif And... include ALL REITs as well ... so no off topic. tongue.gif

http://www.investmentmoats.com/DividendScr...endScreener.php

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Voucher yes, Annual report download from SGX website ler.  tongue.gif
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What about taxation? any withholding tax that we need to claim back? or tax that we need to declare?
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What about taxation? any withholding tax that we need to claim back? or tax that we need to declare?
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No dividend tax, no withholding tax , no capital gain tax from Singapore (If you are not Sg tax resident)

No Malaysian tax as well because all foreign based income (if you are tax resident of MY) is tax free.

You can declare if you want but not subject to tax. Most people do not declare unless very substantial.

In conclusion, NO TAX. thumbup.gif

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No dividend tax, no withholding tax , no capital gain tax from Singapore (If you are not Sg tax resident)

No Malaysian tax as well because all foreign based income (if you are tax resident of MY) is tax free.

You can declare if you want but not subject to tax. Most people do not declare unless very substantial.

In conclusion, NO TAX.  thumbup.gif
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If only Malaysia also like this, NO Tax for Reits Dividend cry.gif mad.gif
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If only Malaysia also like this, NO Tax for Reits Dividend  cry.gif  mad.gif
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QUOTE(gark @ Sep 24 2013, 10:50 AM)
No dividend tax, no withholding tax , no capital gain tax from Singapore (If you are not Sg tax resident)

No Malaysian tax as well because all foreign based income (if you are tax resident of MY) is tax free.

You can declare if you want but not subject to tax. Most people do not declare unless very substantial.

In conclusion, NO TAX.  thumbup.gif
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Even declared, there is no addition Tax, why so scare ....... hmm.gif

Higher incomes are the " needs" to secure good credit rating , unless u have other jalans.....to improve the credit ratings and so on..

Funny thing is people want to hide their legal incomes ..........

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Even declared, there is no addition Tax, why so scare ....... hmm.gif

Higher incomes are the " needs"  to secure good credit rating , unless u have other jalans.....to improve the credit ratings and so on..

Funny thing is people want to hide their legal incomes ..........
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QUOTE(felixmask @ Sep 24 2013, 01:48 PM)
SKy Gor,

In other wordz...dont want BolehLand Gov earn/tax hard earn money......aka distribute moneyflies.gif BR1M. brows.gif
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u misunderstood sky meaning .......

he said since the income earn from overseas not taxable why not declare it with Hasil? declare means can have a good credit rating whenever you needed it for Loans purposes (e.g. mortgage, hire purchase)
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which company provide 7% or above dividend?
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which company provide 7% or above dividend?
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survey with this reitdata.com
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Invest in SG lor.. easy only mah... tongue.gif
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Thanks Gark.
I intend open DBS with DBS VICKERS brokerage SGD18. next month making a trip to Singapore.


any idea what is the TT rate from MAYBANK kl OR OTHER LOCAL banks to DBS charges?

and vice versa? have u done it before?


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QUOTE(cwhong @ Sep 24 2013, 01:53 PM)
u misunderstood sky meaning .......

he said since the income earn from overseas not taxable why not declare it with Hasil? declare means can have a good credit rating whenever you needed it for Loans purposes (e.g. mortgage, hire purchase)
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Declaring need to furnish a lot of documents like dividend voucer, CDS holdings record etc if kena checked.. small amount no need hassle. tongue.gif Anyway they cannot catch you cause not taxable. laugh.gif

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u misunderstood sky meaning .......

he said since the income earn from overseas not taxable why not declare it with Hasil? declare means can have a good credit rating whenever you needed it for Loans purposes (e.g. mortgage, hire purchase)
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Exactly ......

Why the needs to do creative accounting to prove otherwise.........
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Thanks Gark.
I intend open DBS with DBS VICKERS brokerage SGD18. next month making a trip to Singapore.
any idea what is the TT rate from MAYBANK kl OR OTHER LOCAL banks to DBS charges?

and vice versa? have u done it before?
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CIMB Charges RM10 (Mine FOC laugh.gif ), Maybank not sure + Forex. DBS charges SGD10 handling fee for Inward TT. (Total RM10+forex+SGD10)

DBS to MY Bank charges, SGD 25 + forex. Price already include MY handling fee. (Total SGD 25+forex)

If you transfer more than RM 10k, remember to make your declaration to BNM as "Investment".

Cheapest way is change at money changer and bring cash to SGD, max cash you can bring cross border is USD10k, no need declaration.

Or use MY money changer to exchange and deposit to your SG DBS account and vice versa. Free but you must trust the money changer... wink.gif Many money changer provide this 'underground' transfer service...

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QUOTE(gark @ Sep 24 2013, 02:21 PM)
CIMB Charges RM10, Maybank not sure + Forex. DBS charges SGD10 handling fee for Inward TT. (Total RM10+forex+SGD10)

DBS to MY Bank charges, SGD 25 + forex. Price already include MY handling fee. (Total SGD 25+forex)

If you transfer more than RM 10k, remember to make your declaration is BNM as "Investment".

Cheapest way is change at money changer and bring cash to SGD, max cash you can bring cross border is USD10k, no need declaration.

Or use money changer to exchange and credit to your DBS account. Free but you must trust the money changer...
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beside bring money - what else need to bring ? pay slip or M'sia saving account or M'sia IC nod.gif

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beside bring money -  what else need to bring ? pay slip or M'sia saving account or M'sia IC nod.gif
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This has been answered before mar...

QUOTE(Vector88 @ Sep 11 2013, 10:30 PM)
Called DBS and DBS Vickers.. can open both acc in any DBS branch... bring along IC, 3 months payslips, utility bill showing the residential address ... then deposit some money into savings acc .... min average balance in savings shd b SGD 5000 otherwise 2 bucks will be deducted per month

Going there next month smile.gif
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Vector88 let us know your progress.. biggrin.gif

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This has been answered before mar...
Vector88 let us know your progress..  biggrin.gif
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cant find....mah

Answer again... tongue.gif

How Indonesia Market ? switch my UT fund to Indonesia Region...can fly ? CI above 5000?

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cant find....mah

Answer again... tongue.gif

How Indonesia Market ? switch my UT fund to Indonesia Region...can fly ? CI above 5000?
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Weakening....  tongue.gif
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buying any Indonesia stock ?
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Waiting for better bargains for now.. the rupiah is weakening again.. laugh.gif
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Waiting for better bargains for now.. the rupiah is weakening again.. laugh.gif
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Can convert MY to rupiah..
I rember few year i convert rm1 = 330IDR. Now rm1 = 350IDR


i tink can go there HOLIDAY..u free tour guide me there?




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Can convert MY to rupiah..
I rember few year i convert rm1 = 330IDR. Now rm1 = 350IDR
i tink can go there HOLIDAY..u free tour guide me there?
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Today 1 RM - 3600 already...


You manyak $$$ go holiday lar... tongue.gif
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Today 1 RM - 3600 already...
You manyak $$$ go holiday lar... tongue.gif
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Regret i convert my ruppiah money early with last year.

tomorw im holiday...free stay at Berjaya Redang. I find those cheap and good...free flight and dont spend money trip.

Work tension.....dont smoke, dont yam ccha, dont drink beer...only spend holiday.

MY company hire alot monkey eat peanut and while paying this monkey with peanut.

I have total 34 day of leave - dont spend on leave holiday i have noting to Kill my leave.
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QUOTE(gark @ Sep 24 2013, 02:21 PM)
CIMB Charges RM10 (Mine FOC laugh.gif ), Maybank not sure + Forex. DBS charges SGD10 handling fee for Inward TT. (Total RM10+forex+SGD10)

DBS to MY Bank charges, SGD 25 + forex. Price already include MY handling fee. (Total SGD 25+forex)

If you transfer more than RM 10k, remember to make your declaration to BNM as "Investment".

Cheapest way is change at money changer and bring cash to SGD, max cash you can bring cross border is USD10k, no need declaration.

Or use MY money changer to exchange and deposit to your SG DBS account and vice versa. Free but you must trust the money changer... wink.gif Many money changer provide this 'underground' transfer service...
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If you transfer more than RM 10k, remember to make your declaration to BNM as "Investment". - where to declare this?
per time transfer of RM 10K? Below 10k no need declare?

i can use CIMB to transfer to SG. not worth the risk to be carrying so much cash to SG. I intend to bring only SG2K+ which is the minimum requirement to open the ac.

anyway, thanks so much for your reply, Gark.


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dividend from SINGAPORE REITS

Can someone help me with a link for when dividend being declared for Singapore Reits.. I could not find it ...
Something like the dividends ex-date?
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QUOTE(elea88 @ Sep 25 2013, 12:17 PM)
dividend from SINGAPORE REITS

Can someone help me with a link for when dividend being declared for Singapore Reits.. I could not find it ...
Something like the dividends ex-date?
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http://sgx.i3investor.com/jsp/divann.jsp

check there .....


p.s. Prophet can you list out all the iinformation (website links) regarding singapore reits ? about dividend and the reitdata.com and related at FIRST page and FIRST posts....... easier for them to have a reference ...... many thanks.....
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QUOTE(gark @ Sep 24 2013, 08:53 PM)
Today 1 RM - 3600 already...
You manyak $$$ go holiday lar... tongue.gif
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cause of this Forex i hoot one counter ..... telkom!!
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QUOTE(elea88 @ Sep 25 2013, 11:43 AM)
If you transfer more than RM 10k, remember to make your declaration to BNM as "Investment". - where to declare this?
per time transfer of RM 10K?  Below 10k no need declare?

i can use CIMB to transfer to SG. not worth the risk to be carrying so much cash to SG. I intend to bring only SG2K+ which is the minimum requirement to open the ac.

anyway, thanks so much for your reply, Gark.
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At the bottom of the TT form under declaration, under item 7. Usually 'Investment' or "Equity Investment' or 'Savings' will not attract too much attention from BNM, and the furthermore declaration is true, so you wont get in trouble. 1 declaration for every 1 overseas TT transfer above RM10K. Avoid transferring more than RM 100k/transfer otherwise will be under BNM spotlight, split to several transfers. Transfers less than RM 10K no need to declare.

The customer service can guide you through filling the form. Remember to put the DBS swift code & address of the branch where you open your account (get all the info when you open). Open account, and deposit more than 5k SGD, otherwise SGD2 per month charges.

Carrying cash is safer than you think... put inside hand luggage, make sure total less than USD10k, otherwise have to make custom declaration. I am used to carrying bags of cash across border so it is ok for me... laugh.gif

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At the bottom of the TT form under declaration, under item 7. Usually 'Investment' or "Equity Investment' or 'Savings' will not attract too much attention from BNM, and the furthermore declaration is true, so you wont get in trouble. 1 declaration for every 1 overseas TT transfer above RM10K. Avoid transferring more than RM 100k/transfer otherwise will be under BNM spotlight, split to several transfers. Transfers less than RM 10K no need to declare.

The customer service can guide you through filling the form. Remember to put the DBS swift code & address of the branch where you open your account (get all the info when you open). Open account, and deposit more than 5k SGD, otherwise SGD2 per month charges.

Carrying cash is safer than you think... put inside hand luggage, make sure total less than USD10k, otherwise have to make custom declaration. I am used to carrying bags of cash across border so it is ok for me...  laugh.gif
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thanks so much for the INFORMATION - GARK,. meaning TT cannot do online. Hv to go to the bank.... ?
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thanks so much for the INFORMATION - GARK,. meaning TT cannot do online. Hv to go to the bank.... ?
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Usually I go bank, my RM will fill in for me, and I just sign.. cause online TT can only do less than 10K transfer (hence no need declaration)...

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another reit in singapore soon:oue commercial reit
Initial properties that will be injected into the REIT include the 18-storey OUE Bayfront which is located at 50 Collyer Quay, Singapore and its ancillary properties comprising of a conserved tower building used for F&B outlets and a link bridge with retail shops.

Besdies OUE Bayfront, commercial properties currently owned by Lippo China Resources Limited are also currently being considered for inclusion into the proposed REIT. Lippo China Resources is a company listed on the Hong Kong Stock Exchange.

OUE has not revealed further details of the proposed size or time line at in which the REIT will take shape, besdies giving scant details that the company will take into account prevailing market conditions before making further decisions on the listing of the REIT.

http://www.reitsweek.com/2013/09/plans-for...t-revealed.html
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Usually I go bank, my RM will fill in for me, and I just sign.. cause online TT can only do less than 10K transfer (hence no need declaration)...
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thanks again. This week finding time to do homework, on what SREITS to invest in, which reits not yet give dividend for the year....
afterall, in it for the dividend returns. Any recommendations?
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Can someone help me with a link for when dividend being declared for Singapore Reits.. I could not find it ...
Something like the dividends ex-date?
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You will have to go to sgx site to look at each reit for that.
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Sep 27 2013, 10:00 AM)
You will have to go to sgx site to look at each reit for that.
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i am looking for something like this for SINGAPORE SHARES.
so, can monitor when declare dividend, when ex date and when payment date.
this link below, i use for Malaysia .

http://www.icapital.biz/english/beforeexdate_2.asp?sort=d



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any one trading singapore reit using cross border platform by OSK?
how was they charges?

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Just to share, for those interested to open ac in Singapore. I managed to open the DBS IBANKING AC on Monday. Took the morning bus , arrived at 1pm.. reached bank at 3pm. Went over to DBS HQ.. @ MARINA BAY FINANCIAL CENTRE.

Finished both opening account at 5pm. The bank account is immediate, however for DBS VICKERS, just fill in all forms and they will
notify in a week time via pos if successful or not. As need to open CDP account too.

Both bank and broker is on the same floor.

For those not intending to spend money in Singapore, can actually take the evening bus back. I heard, the bus is every hourly...

Very enjoyable bus ride... Watched 2 movies on the way there.
However, i stayed 2 nites and came back home by flight.


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QUOTE(elea88 @ Oct 9 2013, 04:04 PM)
Just to share, for those interested to open ac in Singapore. I managed to open the DBS IBANKING AC on Monday. Took the morning bus , arrived at 1pm.. reached bank at 3pm. Went over to DBS HQ.. @ MARINA BAY FINANCIAL CENTRE.

Finished both opening account at 5pm. The bank account is immediate, however for DBS VICKERS, just fill in all forms and they will
notify in a week time via pos if successful or not. As need to open CDP account too.

Both bank and broker is on the same floor.

For those not intending to spend money in Singapore, can actually take the evening bus back. I heard, the bus is every hourly...

Very enjoyable bus ride... Watched 2 movies on the way there.
However, i stayed 2 nites and came back home by flight.
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Minimum amount to open?
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Minimum amount to open?
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No need to bank in any money when u open the account. However, they will charge SGD2 the following month if balance is below SGD 5K.
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Today 1 RM - 3600 already...
You manyak $$$ go holiday lar... tongue.gif
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IDR drop, but probably everything is now much higher price. Could be a bowl of mee cost IDR36,000. Have U heard the story of a European country around WW2 when a man wanted to buy bread and put his money in a wheelbarrow cost inflation is so high that he needs a wheelbarrow filled with money to buy just plain bread. But B4 he can buy bread, he has to go inside the shop to enquire whether the price of bread has not risen yet (so he has enuf money in his wheelbarrow to buy it) and when he comes out, the wheelbarrow is gone - stolen, but all his money still on the floor cos the wheelbarrow is woth a lot more than the money.
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IDR drop, but probably everything is now much higher price. Could be a bowl of mee cost IDR36,000. Have U heard the story of a European country around WW2 when a man wanted to buy bread and put his money in a wheelbarrow cost inflation is so high that he needs a wheelbarrow filled with money to buy just plain bread. But B4 he can buy bread, he has to go inside the shop to enquire whether the price of bread has not risen yet (so he has enuf money in his wheelbarrow to buy it) and when he comes out, the wheelbarrow is gone - stolen, but all his money still on the floor cos the wheelbarrow is woth a lot more than the money.
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Ok lah manageable.. so far inflation is about 8-9% p.a. not the hyperinflation you mentioned.

P/S can get nice bowl of mee for Rp20,000 and below lar.. tongue.gif

FD rate is also around 9%.. so ok lar match inflation. tongue.gif

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Ok lah manageable.. so far inflation is about 8-9% p.a. not the hyperinflation you mentioned.

P/S can get nice bowl of mee for Rp20,000 and below lar..  tongue.gif

FD rate is also around 9%.. so ok lar match inflation.  tongue.gif
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RP20,000 is about RM5.60 - ok, around same price as K here. In Macau, I heard, need to spend about 3X to get a bowl of mee - RM15 or so. Food is damn expensive over there.

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Lippo Mall on downtrend... and distribution yield follow Reduce.

I am thinking of collecting some at this point SGD0.445. Any comments for discussion?
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http://mystocksinvesting.com/singapore-sto...nical-analysis/
Lippo Mall on downtrend...  and distribution yield follow Reduce.

I am thinking of collecting some at this point SGD0.445. Any comments for discussion?
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lippo still same 44-45, looks very stable.


added a bit of capitamall today, after recommendation by cimb. exch rate is not too bad at this time.

after a couple of months, very pleased with my earlier purchases of starhill, aimsampi and suntec. smile.gif
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Capita Mall Trust CMT Q3 DPU 2.56cents
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Suntec REIT Distributes DPU of 2.289 cents for 3Q FY13
YTD FY13 DPU of 6.766 cents

http://infopub.sgx.com/FileOpen/Suntec-3QF...t&FileID=260980
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anyone subscribe to VIVA Industrial Trust? got some allocation today.
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anyone subscribe to VIVA Industrial Trust? got some allocation today.
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How to subscribe? I got SINGAPORE CDP and DBS VICKERS ONLINE.

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How to subscribe? I got SINGAPORE CDP and DBS VICKERS ONLINE.
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elea88, Are u a Singapore Citizen or Singapore PR? how do u apply Singapore CDP account?
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i am from SELANGOR. Take a trip to Singapore and open DBS BANKING AC, DBS VICKERS TRADING AC + CDP
all in 2 hours.... However, i hv not started to trade as still slowly analysing how to use the TRADING PLATFORM of
Dbs Vickers. Brokerage SGD18 and any dividend u receive, will be bank directly to yr DBS ac. so, u can save
charges long term. If u interested, I can walk u through the procedures as just did this 3 weeks ago.
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i am from SELANGOR. Take a trip to Singapore and open DBS BANKING AC, DBS VICKERS TRADING AC + CDP
all in 2 hours.... However, i hv not started to trade as still slowly analysing how to use the TRADING PLATFORM of
Dbs Vickers. Brokerage SGD18 and any dividend u receive, will be bank directly to yr DBS ac. so, u can save
charges long term. If u interested, I can walk u through the procedures as just did this 3 weeks ago.
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Thanks, I read through your old post, u mentioned u deposit 5K SGD into DBS to open account, then I understood what u mean.I don't want tie down my 5K SGD for little interest of 0.05% pa. I am thinking of other ways.



I am thinking should I keep using my Malaysia broker platform to buy or open a new platform in Singapore to buy Singapore REITS.


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Thanks, I read through your old post, u mentioned u deposit 5K SGD into DBS to open account, then I understood what u mean.I don't want tie down my 5K SGD for little interest of 0.05% pa. I am thinking of other ways.
I am thinking should I keep using my Malaysia broker platform to buy or open a new platform in Singapore to buy Singapore REITS.
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U can just let the bank charge SGD2 a month.. which works up to $24 x 2.6 = RM62.40
in long run, if hv few cheques frm REITS paid quarterly, then worth it.

BTW : 0.05% pa?... i understand that there is no interest being paid for DBS iaccount.

If u are using local brokerage there is a charge for everytime u bank in a Singapore cheque
or if the broker bank in the cheque for you. That's the reason, that I zip over there to maintain a bank ac there.

Alternative try STAND CHART, the brokerage is lower, but nominee ac.





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i am from SELANGOR. Take a trip to Singapore and open DBS BANKING AC, DBS VICKERS TRADING AC + CDP
all in 2 hours.... However, i hv not started to trade as still slowly analysing how to use the TRADING PLATFORM of
Dbs Vickers. Brokerage SGD18 and any dividend u receive, will be bank directly to yr DBS ac. so, u can save
charges long term. If u interested, I can walk u through the procedures as just did this 3 weeks ago.
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can share here..is valuable everyone know.

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i think opening a CDP account directly from Spore is the best. i get quite alot of ipo offer from outside spore as well. not much malaysian brokers are familiar with regional market.
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Saizen : 5-to-1 Unit Consolidation

http://infopub.sgx.com/FileOpen/20131030_N...t&FileID=261930

If got 1000 units then will be 200 unit. In Singapore how to sell 200 units?
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Saizen : 5-to-1 Unit Consolidation

http://infopub.sgx.com/FileOpen/20131030_N...t&FileID=261930

If got 1000 units then will be 200 unit. In Singapore how to sell 200 units?
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O.k I found the answer.. for anyone who might be interested...

To facilitate Unitholders in trading in odd lots of Consolidated Units which may arise
from the Unit Consolidation, the Manager has made arrangements with the SGX-ST for the
establishment of a temporary trading counter for the trading of board lots of 100
Consolidated Units for the period starting from 9.00 a.m. on the Effective Trading Date and
ending at 5.00 p.m. on 3 January 2014 (the “Unit Consolidation Odd Lot Counter”). At the
expiry of such period, the Unit Consolidation Odd Lot Counter will cease and the
Consolidated Units will trade in board lots of 1,000 Consolidated Units and Consolidated
Units in odd lots will have to be traded in the Unit Share Market.
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Starhill Global Reit's Q3 distribution per unit rises 9% to 1.21 cents

Starhill Global Real Estate Investment Trust has achieved a 20.8 per cent increase to $26.1 million in income to be distributed to unitholders in the third quarter.

Its revenue for the three months to Sept 30 was up 5.5 per cent at $48.8 million. Net property income climbed by 4.4 per cent to $38 million, mainly attributable to the continued strong performance of the Singapore portfolio.

Starhill Global Reit has grown its initial portfolio from interests in two landmark properties on Orchard Road - Wisma Atria and Ngee Ann City - to 13 properties in Singapore, Malaysia, Australia, China, and Japan, valued at about $2.8 billion.

Distribution per unit rose by 9 per cent to 1.21 cents, which will be paid on Nov 25.
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Starhill Global Reit's Q3 distribution per unit rises 9% to 1.21 cents

Starhill Global Real Estate Investment Trust has achieved a 20.8 per cent increase to $26.1 million in income to be distributed to unitholders in the third quarter.

Its revenue for the three months to Sept 30 was up 5.5 per cent at $48.8 million. Net property income climbed by 4.4 per cent to $38 million, mainly attributable to the continued strong performance of the Singapore portfolio.

Starhill Global Reit has grown its initial portfolio from interests in two landmark properties on Orchard Road - Wisma Atria and Ngee Ann City - to 13 properties in Singapore, Malaysia, Australia, China, and Japan, valued at about $2.8 billion.

Distribution per unit rose by 9 per cent to 1.21 cents, which will be paid on Nov 25.
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Davinz, where can find the ex-date for dividends?
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http://www.sgx.com/wps/portal/sgxweb/home/...Q0NTU3NzUwNTA0/

Chose which company from the drop-down list

look at Corporate Action
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QUOTE(elea88 @ Oct 29 2013, 01:48 PM)
U can just let the bank charge SGD2  a month.. which works up to $24 x 2.6 = RM62.40
in long run, if hv few cheques frm REITS paid quarterly, then worth it.

BTW : 0.05% pa?... i understand that there is no interest being paid for DBS iaccount.

If u are using local brokerage there is a charge for everytime u bank in a Singapore cheque
or if the broker bank in the cheque for you. That's the reason, that I zip over there to maintain a bank ac there.

Alternative try STAND CHART, the brokerage is lower, but nominee ac.
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TT money to SG also involve commissions too...... If less shares and less transactions yearly might not a good idea for overseas account...imho
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elea88 please help me check with DBS VIcker.what is the commission and charges associating with buying/selling Singapore REITS and receiving DPU. From what i know is there will a be SGD$20 CDP-sub account fees per dollar, SGD7-10 trust account maintenance fees per month and also Dividend handling fees raging from SGD2 to 1% of total gross dividend amount.
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what is the commission and charges associating with buying/selling Singapore REITS - SGD 18 if cash upfront account
sgd 25 for others (margin or cash)
check here for charges info:
https://www.dbsvonline.com/English/index.asp

Mine I open CASH UP FRONT ac so, all dividends will be bank-in directly to
my DBS ACCOUNT, so no handling fees.

I transfer money from DBS bank to VICKERS (immediate usage)
then I buy... I did not take the other ac.. as it is tedious.. after purchase the shares,
then must remember to make payment. However, that ac got credit.

Whereas, if I buy from m'sia my broker charge me RM10 per dividend cheque received.
and my M'sia brokerage rate is :

Brokerage for Singapore share ( 2 ways charges ) Singapore-0.18% min SGD15 M'sia---0.6% min RM50

CDP - hv no idea that there is Charges. This I got to check. Maybe "gark" can help.


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TT money to SG also involve commissions too...... If less shares and less transactions yearly might not a good idea for overseas account...imho
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Yes, i agree, if less shares and transaction THEN.. it is too troublesome.

But if few SHARES.. and few times DIVIDEND... i calculated, O.K la for me.

I have few shares/reits counter bought from M'sia and everytime i get dividend i see the RM10.00 deducted.
Sometimes my dividend only SGD 5.. and RM 10 is deducted. So, not feasible to be buying little Singapore shares from M'sia.
IF WANT collect dividends.

TT from Msia is RM 10.00 but, DBS charges SG20 to receive the money. The transfer of money is COSTLY!


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Ascott REIT to raise S$253.7 Mln via rights issue

Ascott Residence Trust (Ascott Reit) has launched an underwritten renounceable rights issue, to raise approximately S$253.7 million.

In a statement, it said existing unitholders will be offered 253.7 million rights units, at a ratio of one unit for every five units already held, as at the book closure date.

The rights units will be issued at S$1.00 each. This is at a discount of approximately 22.5 per cent to the closing price of S$1.29 per unit, as on Monday, and a discount of approximately 19.5 per cent to the theoretical ex-rights price.

Ascott Residence Trust Management Ltd (ARTML) chairman Lim Jit Poh said: “The rights issue will enhance Ascott Reit’s financial flexibility to tap future growth opportunities."

He said, it will also increase Ascott Reit’s trading liquidity and enhance its credit profile.

"Unitholders will be able to subscribe for the rights units and benefit from Ascott Reit’s future growth strategies.

"There is a strong pipeline of potential acquisitions from our sponsor, The Ascott Ltd (Ascott), and third parties.

"We will continue to seek acquisition opportunities in key gateway cities in China, Japan, Malaysia, Australia and Europe. Ascott Reit will also continue to invest on refurbishing our properties, to drive organic growth," he said.

Ascott Reit is managed by Ascott Residence Trust Management Ltd — a wholly-owned subsidiary of Ascott and an indirect wholly-owned subsidiary of CapitaLand Ltd — one of Asia’s largest real estate companies.
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Ascott REIT to raise S$253.7 Mln via rights issue

Ascott Residence Trust (Ascott Reit) has launched an underwritten renounceable rights issue, to raise approximately S$253.7 million.

In a statement, it said existing unitholders will be offered 253.7 million rights units, at a ratio of one unit for every five units already held, as at the book closure date.

The rights units will be issued at S$1.00 each. This is at a discount of approximately 22.5 per cent to the closing price of S$1.29 per unit, as on Monday, and a discount of approximately 19.5 per cent to the theoretical ex-rights price.

Ascott Residence Trust Management Ltd (ARTML) chairman Lim Jit Poh said: “The rights issue will enhance Ascott Reit’s financial flexibility to tap future growth opportunities."

He said, it will also increase Ascott Reit’s trading liquidity and enhance its credit profile.

"Unitholders will be able to subscribe for the rights units and benefit from Ascott Reit’s future growth strategies.

"There is a strong pipeline of potential acquisitions from our sponsor, The Ascott Ltd (Ascott), and third parties.

"We will continue to seek acquisition opportunities in key gateway cities in China, Japan, Malaysia, Australia and Europe. Ascott Reit will also continue to invest on refurbishing our properties, to drive organic growth," he said.

Ascott Reit is managed by Ascott Residence Trust Management Ltd — a wholly-owned subsidiary of Ascott and an indirect wholly-owned subsidiary of CapitaLand Ltd — one of Asia’s largest real estate companies.
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u have this share? will u sell the rights issue or buy?
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u have this share? will u sell the rights issue or buy?
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currently I don't have any shares in Singapore, juz watching first blush.gif
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currently I don't have any shares in Singapore, juz watching first  blush.gif
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i thinking of buying ascendasindreit and soilbuildbizreit today...
still analysing.
ascendasindreit is cum div...
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i thinking of buying ascendasindreit and soilbuildbizreit today...
still analysing.
ascendasindreit is cum div...
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i have not looked at ascenda much.
for industrial, why not consider aimsampi? low gearing, higher div.
price today is better than last week by a few cents.

i got a bit more suntec today at 1.65.
looking at aim and lippo now.
will add bit by bit slowly.
since myreits are like... dead! tongue.gif

i do not know if there's any net big diff with actual sgd acc or via local banks trust acc.
i use cimb, so far, so good. charges, fx, look ok to me.
just got my first div. they stay in the sgd trust acc, i use them to buy new units, easy enough.
one thing, just me - i plan not to touch them for a long time.
"savings" in sgd should beat the rm in the mid-long term.

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Nov 7 2013, 01:35 PM)
i have not looked at ascenda much.
for industrial, why not consider aimsampi? low gearing, higher div.
price today is better than last week by a few cents.

i got a bit more suntec today at 1.65.
looking at aim and lippo now.
will add bit by bit slowly.
since myreits are like... dead! tongue.gif

i do not know if there's any net big diff with actual sgd acc or via local banks trust acc.
i use cimb, so far, so good. charges, fx, look ok to me.
just got my first div. they stay in the sgd trust acc, i use them to buy new units, easy enough.
one thing, just me - i plan not to touch them for a long time.
"savings" in sgd should beat the rm in the mid-long term.
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LIPPOMALL just declared

Corporate Action Details (e.g. Rights ratio, dividend ratio, tax rate, etc)

Tax-exempt distribution of 0.68 cents per unit and capital distribution of 0.19 cents per unit



Record Date

14/11/2013



Record Time

17:00



Date Paid/Payable (if applicable)

29/11/2013

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http://www.nextinsight.net/index.php/story...-soilbuild-reit

SOILBUILD REITS FY14F yield of 7.8%.

http://www.nextinsight.net/index.php/story...yangzijiang-132

today price: SGD0.77 about IPO price...

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any recommendation which S-REIT that I should buy ? example for Malaysia, I'm interested with STAREIT or Starhill..

how about Ascendasreit ?
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any recommendation which S-REIT that I should buy ? example for Malaysia, I'm interested with STAREIT or Starhill..

how about Ascendasreit ?
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u can choose from here:
http://reitdata.com/

I am having
First reit,
lippomall, - now is CD.. maybe u can consider
& SUNTEC.

Now thinking of adding
SoilbuildBizREIT
and
AIMSAMPI Reit - since price down to 1.53 (as recently ex-dividend)

But whatever u intend to get... do some homework.
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^thank you smile.gif but then i have no idea how to calculate dividend for S-REIT because got LESS TAX, TAX EXEMPT and Annualised DPU etc sad.gif I appreciated if anybody can help me
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^thank you smile.gif but then i have no idea how to calculate dividend for S-REIT because got LESS TAX,  TAX EXEMPT and Annualised DPU  etc sad.gif I appreciated if anybody can help me
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check these sites, u can analyze...
http://mystocksinvesting.com/singapore-rei...end-investment/
http://reitdata.com/
http://www.sgx.com/wps/portal/sgxweb/home/...in_one/company/

i have lippo, suntec, capitamall, sabana, aimpsami and starhill global.

i look for a balanced mix of div yield, low gearing and liquidity.

other than sabana, all have cap gains and dividends, performace better than myreits so far...

u won't find the perfect one(s) - u just need to decide which approach.

all the best!
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Nov 7 2013, 07:07 PM)
check these sites, u can analyze...
http://mystocksinvesting.com/singapore-rei...end-investment/
http://reitdata.com/
http://www.sgx.com/wps/portal/sgxweb/home/...in_one/company/

i have lippo, suntec, capitamall, sabana, aimpsami and starhill global.

i look for a balanced mix of div yield, low gearing and liquidity.

other than sabana, all have cap gains and dividends, performace better than myreits so far...

u won't find the perfect one(s) - u just need to decide which approach.

all the best!
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Noticed this SG thread started having regular crowd.... Switching from my to SG slowly?.....
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Notice that singapore reits gearing ratio was much more higher than mreit
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my strategy is diversification. Coz one never know the future. Eg: today, 'A' shares might be good.. then suddenly, there will be an announcement, and it might not be good anymore. And since cannot be updating everyday on information (as it is not a fulltime job), my strategy is getting into more counters instead of concentrating on good ones. From industrial to hospitality to retail etc... and mix countries.. then will be balanced REITS portfolio....
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You cun diversify too much. U aware that you need to pay SGD 10 every time you receive dividend? Normally reits will payout quarterly
Which means you need to pay SGD 40 every year for stamp duty alone.
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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Nov 12 2013, 10:18 PM)
You cun diversify too much. U aware that you need to pay SGD 10 every time you receive dividend? Normally reits will payout quarterly
Which means you need to pay SGD 40 every year for stamp duty alone.
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She was using singapore broker and bank into sg bank.... I think quite minimal impact.....compare to me...... hmm.gif
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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Nov 12 2013, 10:18 PM)
You cun diversify too much. U aware that you need to pay SGD 10 every time you receive dividend? Normally reits will payout quarterly
Which means you need to pay SGD 40 every year for stamp duty alone.
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yes, previously, I noticed the SG10 deductions.. therefore, i zip over to Sg to open an ac. Pros and Cons.. u hv to weight it yrself what is important to u.
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guess no malaysia broker have lower dividend admin fee(CIMB call it that) of SGD10
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QUOTE(ryan18 @ Nov 13 2013, 08:35 PM)
guess no malaysia broker have lower dividend admin fee(CIMB call it that) of SGD10
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HLeB charges me SGD10 too:
SGD6 for "SGD handling charges"
SGD4 for "our handing"
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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Nov 13 2013, 08:57 PM)
HLeB charges me SGD10 too:
SGD6 for "SGD handling charges"
SGD4 for "our handing"
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the last time i ask they tell me
SGD6 for SG agent handling charge
RM10 our handling.with current forex rate at 2.5 it still equals to SGD10 lol
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QUOTE(elea88 @ Nov 13 2013, 09:07 AM)
yes, previously, I noticed the SG10 deductions.. therefore, i zip over to Sg to open an ac. Pros and Cons.. u hv to weight it yrself what is important to u.
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What i am trying to say is pick up the best don buy too many counters. The more counters u buy simply means more admin fee.
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Nov 7 2013, 01:35 PM)
i have not looked at ascenda much.
for industrial, why not consider aimsampi? low gearing, higher div.
price today is better than last week by a few cents.

i got a bit more suntec today at 1.65.
looking at aim and lippo now.
will add bit by bit slowly.
since myreits are like... dead! tongue.gif

i do not know if there's any net big diff with actual sgd acc or via local banks trust acc.
i use cimb, so far, so good. charges, fx, look ok to me.
just got my first div. they stay in the sgd trust acc, i use them to buy new units, easy enough.
one thing, just me - i plan not to touch them for a long time.
"savings" in sgd should beat the rm in the mid-long term.
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suntec reit.. dropping a bit everyday . now is already 1.575 .. wondering.. should top up or not.
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QUOTE(elea88 @ Nov 15 2013, 10:37 AM)
suntec reit.. dropping a bit everyday . now is already 1.575 .. wondering.. should top up or not.
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hmmm.. 1.56 today my SUNTEC done... anybody know why the drop.. ?
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QUOTE(elea88 @ Nov 15 2013, 05:24 PM)
hmmm.. 1.56 today my SUNTEC done... anybody know why the drop.. ?
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Suntec new aquisition

http://www.smh.com.au/business/leighton-se...1117-2xp0s.html

Think the price is stabling now

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Suntec new aquisition

http://www.smh.com.au/business/leighton-se...1117-2xp0s.html

Think the price is stabling now
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drop further today 1.54
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LIPPOMALL News

Close Of Placement Of 246,913,000 New Units In Lmir Trust At An Issue Price Of S$0.405 Per New Unit

http://lmir.listedcompany.com/newsroom/201...A0004D006.1.pdf

Lippomall today trading 0.41 already...
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Unit holders of AIMS AMP REIT can look forward to better dividends as it makes a partial acquisition down in Australia.

http://www.reitsweek.com/2013/11/aims-amp-...under-with.html


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drop further today 1.54
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buy ?
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Suntec now is 1.56. Today buy AIMS... key in $1.50.. will know by end of day if can reach this target price...
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QUOTE(apagranpa10 @ Nov 26 2013, 04:43 PM)
Nice  thumbup.gif  done rclxms.gif
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Where got nice.. Now is 1.485 already.. going down some more.
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elea88: May I know whether dbs vickers charge us if we do not perform any transaction during that month?
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elea88: May I know whether dbs vickers charge us if we do not perform any transaction during that month?
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i dun think so.. why should they charge?
my friend open ac with me in Oct.. till now no trade. also no charges.
Only that DBS BANK if below SGD5K before end month, they will charge SGD2
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QUOTE(elea88 @ Nov 27 2013, 01:02 PM)
i dun think so.. why should they charge?
my friend open ac with me in Oct.. till now no trade. also no charges.
Only that DBS BANK if below SGD5K before end month, they will charge SGD2
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Thanks.

Is there any DBS bank account that do not require minimum deposit?
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QUOTE(Chicken~:> @ Nov 27 2013, 02:44 PM)
Thanks.

Is there any DBS bank account that do not require minimum deposit?
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unless u are Singaporean .. then no charge la.

the ac i open is for foreigner.

Also, check out STD CHART . lower brokerage, no charge on bk account.
however, need a SINGAPORE ADDRESS. u check out their website.
I was considering this ac. however the share trading ac is NOMINEE. unless u are o.k with it.

SGD2 1 yr is SGD 24 X 2.60 = RM 62.40.. i guess its o.k la.

My CIMB Malaysia account , as it is peg to housing loan, is charging me RM10.00 a month i.e RM 120 a year..


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QUOTE(elea88 @ Nov 27 2013, 02:56 PM)
unless u are Singaporean .. then no charge la.

the ac i open is for foreigner.

Also, check out STD CHART . lower brokerage, no charge on bk account.
however, need a SINGAPORE ADDRESS. u check out their website.
I was considering this ac. however the share trading ac is NOMINEE. unless u are o.k with it.

SGD2 1 yr is SGD 24 X 2.60 = RM 62.40.. i guess its o.k la.

My CIMB Malaysia account , as it is peg to housing loan, is charging me RM10.00 a month i.e RM 120 a year..
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MY DBS savings account got sometimes go below SGD 5k for few months, so far they have yet to charge me.. they are not so strict or i just lucky? laugh.gif

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QUOTE(gark @ Nov 27 2013, 03:05 PM)
MY DBS savings account got sometimes go below SGD 5k for few months, so far they have yet to charge me.. they are not so strict or i just lucky?  laugh.gif
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maybe u open yr ac before the SGD2 thingy. coz previously, to open DBS ac need maintain SGD500 now need maintain 5k min.


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Received my first....LIPPO MALL & FIRST DIVIDEND.. banked into my account.  rclxms.gif
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Today only received? Quite long from payment date? tongue.gif

Be very careful on lippomall, Rupiah is falling into a hole now.. doh.gif

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The only significant risk is devaluation of Yen... BUT already hedged to SGD for next 2 years

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QUOTE(gark @ Dec 2 2013, 10:28 AM)
Today only received? Quite long from payment date?  tongue.gif

Be very careful on lippomall, Rupiah is falling into a hole now..  doh.gif
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Dividend payout 29 Nov Friday.. I only check my ac today.
Should payout on 30th Sat. Did not notice.
Ya.. LIPPOMALL.. need to monitor closely...
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QUOTE(gark @ Dec 2 2013, 10:30 AM)
Added Croesus Retail Trust - Net DY ~9%...

Owns 4 malls (Including 2 Aeon Malls) in Japan, 100% occupancy, cost of debt 1.47% p.a...  wink.gif

The only significant risk is devaluation of Yen... BUT already hedged to SGD for next 2 years
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Not purchasing anything for time being.. as need transfer RM to SG.. and the rate is now almost 2.61.. wait first.
Will analyse this CROESUS RETAIL... thanks for info.

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QUOTE(gark @ Dec 2 2013, 10:30 AM)
Added Croesus Retail Trust - Net DY ~9%...

Owns 4 malls (Including 2 Aeon Malls) in Japan, 100% occupancy, cost of debt 1.47% p.a...  wink.gif

The only significant risk is devaluation of Yen... BUT already hedged to SGD for next 2 years
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Whats the div payout like?

Its still new stock?

Thanks for headsup thumbup.gif
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Whats the div payout like?

Its still new stock?

Thanks for headsup   thumbup.gif
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IPO in may 2013... ipo price 90 cents. On first day went up to 1.22... now 0.875

This is is a BUSINESS TRUST not a REIT, although structured like a REIT, it have no D/A maximum AND not obligated to pay 90% in dividend.

Understand before you buy...

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QUOTE(gark @ Dec 2 2013, 12:51 PM)
IPO in may 2013... ipo price 90 cents. On first day went up to 1.22... now 0.875

This is is a BUSINESS TRUST not a REIT, although structured like a REIT, it have no D/A maximum AND not obligated to pay 90% in dividend.

Understand before you buy...
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this trust no effect from Qe Tapering or Abenomic- inflation target of 2% or SGD/JPy forex
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Croesus's SGD/JPY forex is hedged until 2015... rolleyes.gif
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Croesus's SGD/JPY forex is hedged until 2015... rolleyes.gif
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your headge meanz what ? fix current exchange rate.
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QUOTE(gark @ Dec 2 2013, 12:51 PM)
IPO in may 2013... ipo price 90 cents. On first day went up to 1.22... now 0.875

This is is a BUSINESS TRUST not a REIT, although structured like a REIT, it have no D/A maximum AND not obligated to pay 90% in dividend.

Understand before you buy...
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Thanks mate! thumbup.gif

Meaning divs subjected to tax...... sad.gif
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Thanks mate!   thumbup.gif

Meaning divs subjected to tax......   sad.gif
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ALL dividend from SGX listed company is TAX FREE.. rolleyes.gif

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your headge meanz what ?  fix current exchange rate.
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Ya means exchange rate is already fixed from May 2013 - May 2015...
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ALL dividend from SGX listed company is TAX FREE.. rolleyes.gif
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THAT is after company tax though.

SREITs income is not subjected to tax provided they pay out 90% of their profits. biggrin.gif
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THAT is after company tax though.

SREITs income is not subjected to tax provided they pay out 90% of their profits.    biggrin.gif
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well business trust is the same IF they pay out 90%... tongue.gif but not obligated

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well business trust is the same IF they pay out 90%... tongue.gif but not obligated
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ic......what is their payout proposals in their prospectus?
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Ya means exchange rate is already fixed from May 2013 - May 2015...
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rclxms.gif You are rich apek , rclxms.gif

do you think is good wise using my local CDS buying SG reits or open SG CDS directly to buy reits.

Need to plan HOLIDAY at SG and read Croesus Retail Trust ... laugh.gif

You jump...i see the water 1st then also jump...

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ic......what is their payout proposals in their prospectus?
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So far they have been paying out >100%...

BT can opt to pay higher due to dividend is obtain from operating cash flow but REIT pay according to net profit.

Here is an article of difference between REIT and BT is riskier than REIT that is why have higher yields..

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rclxms.gif  You are rich apek ,  rclxms.gif

do you think is good wise using my local CDS buying SG reits or open SG CDS directly to buy reits.

Need to plan HOLIDAY at SG and read Croesus Retail Trust ... laugh.gif

You jump...i see the water 1st then also jump...
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Just becareful BT is more RISKIER than REIT and NOT for everyone... wink.gif

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Just becareful BT is more risker than REIT and NOT for everyone... wink.gif
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So far they have been paying out >100%...

BT can opt to pay higher due to dividend is obtain from operating cash flow but REIT pay according to net profit.

Here is an article of difference between REIT and BT is riskier than REIT that is why have higher yields..

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Malaysia-based wealth management firm Hwang Investment disposes more than 1 million units in Singapore-listed Croesus Retail Trust. Units slide to S$0.88

http://www.reitsweek.com/2013/12/hwang-inv...15-million.html

to buy or not to buy???
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Malaysia-based wealth management firm Hwang Investment disposes more than 1 million units in Singapore-listed Croesus Retail Trust. Units slide to S$0.88

http://www.reitsweek.com/2013/12/hwang-inv...15-million.html

to buy or not to buy???
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Well it depends on you.. I have given the summary of pros and cons here. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(elea88 @ Nov 26 2013, 10:20 AM)
Unit holders of AIMS AMP REIT can look forward to better dividends as it makes a partial acquisition down in Australia.

http://www.reitsweek.com/2013/11/aims-amp-...under-with.html
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AIMSAMPI Reit
AIMS AMP CAP INDUSTRIAL REIT 1.445

dropped so much?
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wow.. why the sudden drop?

I not yet purchase counter. Is it after dividend? Hmm.. need to do homework this weekend.

Sabana REIT
SABANA SHARI'AH COMPLIANT REIT 1.035
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Suntec new aquisition

http://www.smh.com.au/business/leighton-se...1117-2xp0s.html

Think the price is stabling now
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ouch.. dropped to SGD1.505 already...
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ouch.. dropped to SGD1.505 already...
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buy buy buy ?
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buy buy buy ?
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just picked up a bit more, looks ok to me buy at this price and yield.

sgreits all coming under pressure as rates in usa poised to go up.

myreits same but i prefer to accumulate more on sg side.

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Dec 9 2013, 01:51 PM)
just picked up a bit more, looks ok to me buy at this price and yield.

sgreits all coming under pressure as rates in usa poised to go up.

myreits same but i prefer to accumulate more on sg side.
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QUOTE(elea88 @ Dec 7 2013, 09:12 AM)
wow.. why the sudden drop?

I not yet purchase counter. Is it after dividend? Hmm.. need to do homework this weekend.

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sabana dropped to $1.03 - whats the reason?
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sabana dropped to $1.03 - whats the reason?
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They have more than 40% tenancy expiring in Nov which have yet to be renewed.

No news means? Your guess is as good as mine! biggrin.gif
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is it the higher yield the REIT is, the risker is it that investor perceived? it is more obvious in foreign REIT like SAIZEN REIT.



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The five Straits Times Index (STI) stocks that maintained the highest dividend yields in 2013 were Singapore Press Holdings, Hutchison Port Holdings Trust, Starhub, Singtel and SIA Engineering. For these five stocks, the average yield paid over the past 12 months came to 6.7%. These means that an S$50,000 portfolio evenly balanced with holdings of these five stocks would have paid S$3,350 in dividends over the past 12 months.

http://us1.campaign-archive2.com/?u=f85311...fa&e=1ec6660163

Out a bit of reit topic...Maybe start collecting above 5 stocks to diversify the YIELD received risk from REITS?
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AIMSAMPI Reit
AIMS AMP CAP INDUSTRIAL REIT  1.445

dropped so much?
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OUCH.. DROP some more...

AIMSAMPI Reit
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OUCH.. DROP some more...

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Why u like this counter ?
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sg reit prices seem to be stabilized...

but rm is now 2.60/sgd...
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Why u like this counter ?
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DPU should increase next year. thumbup.gif

- 103 Defu Lane 10 completed in May 2014
- 20 Gul Way Phase 2E and 3 completed by Dec 2014
- Acquisition of Optus Centre in Sydney, Australia. rclxms.gif

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DPU should increase next year.  thumbup.gif

- 103 Defu Lane 10 completed in May 2014
- 20 Gul Way Phase 2E and 3 completed by Dec 2014
- Acquisition of Optus Centre in Sydney, Australia.  rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Dec 24 2013, 10:25 AM)
sg reit prices seem to be stabilized...

but rm is now 2.60/sgd...
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yes, if TT transfer today is 2.63... any idea if it will go back to 2.58?
my SG ac no more money 2 buy anything...

Next dividends ex dates will be in January 2014
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QUOTE(elea88 @ Dec 30 2013, 01:06 PM)
yes, if TT transfer today is 2.63... any idea if it will go back to 2.58?
my SG ac no more money 2 buy anything...

Next dividends ex dates will be in January 2014
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can't be 2.63 that high... max maybe 2.61 today.

sgd has been moving between 2.55 to 2.60 in the last year.
but it looks like staying in the higher end more than not.

personally, i see no hope in rm strengthening, only down.
which is the main reason i bought into sgreits with rm starting a year ago or so.
use the sgd div to buy more sg reits, not convert back to rm.
i am hopeful it'll turn out much better in 5 yrs time compared to buying myreits in rm.

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QUOTE(elea88 @ Dec 30 2013, 01:06 PM)
yes, if TT transfer today is 2.63... any idea if it will go back to 2.58?
my SG ac no more money 2 buy anything...

Next dividends ex dates will be in January 2014
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For SGD sometimes it is useless to wait... the SG government have a policy of sustain appreciation for their currency so they let the currency strengthen on a slow basis to match inflation.

I have been buying SGD since exchange rate of 2.1 until now... no sign of reducing anytime soon...
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Noob question:

Any website I can do a quick check on when is SG REITS dividend ex-date?
Currently I use the SGX website which is tedious, as need to check one by one...
Alternatively, hv to check the trading website and see when the c word come on. which might be late for purchases.

I need to find future CUM div and EX DIV for purchases.

thanks.
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Added Croesus Retail Trust - Net DY ~9%...

Owns 4 malls (Including 2 Aeon Malls) in Japan, 100% occupancy, cost of debt 1.47% p.a...  wink.gif

The only significant risk is devaluation of Yen... BUT already hedged to SGD for next 2 years
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Hi, any idea when is dividend payout? I tried google it, but no record so far.
Only found targeted dividend percentage.. but no dates.
One year how many times dividend?
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Hi, any idea when is dividend payout? I tried google it, but no record so far.
Only found targeted dividend percentage.. but no dates.
One year how many times dividend?
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Just listed a few months ago, have not paid their maiden dividend yet lar. I believe their dividend is once yearly.

Here is a link to relevant announcement dates in 2014.

http://www.croesusretailtrust.com/html/ir_calandar.php

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QUOTE(gark @ Jan 3 2014, 12:23 PM)
Just listed a few months ago, have not paid their maiden dividend yet lar. I believe their dividend is once yearly.

Here is a link to relevant announcement dates in 2014.

http://www.croesusretailtrust.com/html/ir_calandar.php
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thanks for the info. i now subscribe to their alerts...
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thanks for the info. i now subscribe to their alerts...
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You bought creosus?
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Not yet... key in 0.87 not done to date.
i will wait..
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OUE's $355 mln Singapore REIT IPO to be launched next week-IFR

Singapore-listed property firm Overseas Union Enterprise will begin book-building for a commercial real estate investment trust listing in the city-state on Jan. 13 that may raise as much as $355 million, the Thomson Reuters publication IFR reported on Tuesday.

This will be the first major Singapore IPO of 2014, which could be followed by the South Korea's Lotte Shopping Co Ltd's $1 billion REIT after the Chinese New Year holiday.

The OUE Commercial REIT is targeting a market capitalisation of S$700 million-S$800 million ($631 million)and sponsor OUE plans to retain a stake of around 40 percent.

At present, its listed peers trade at an average yield of 6.5 percent.

The OUE Commercial REIT will feature office building OUE Bayfront in Singapore and the Lippo Plaza Property in Shanghai.

CIMB, Oversea-Chinese Banking Corp and Standard Chartered are the joint global co-ordinators on the IPO, as well as joint bookrunners with Citigroup, JPMorgan and RHB.


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OUE's $355 mln Singapore REIT IPO to be launched next week-IFR

Singapore-listed property firm Overseas Union Enterprise will begin book-building for a commercial real estate investment trust listing in the city-state on Jan. 13 that may raise as much as $355 million, the Thomson Reuters publication IFR reported on Tuesday.

This will be the first major Singapore IPO of 2014, which could be followed by the South Korea's Lotte Shopping Co Ltd's $1 billion REIT after the Chinese New Year holiday.

The OUE Commercial REIT is targeting a market capitalisation of S$700 million-S$800 million ($631 million)and sponsor OUE plans to retain a stake of around 40 percent.

At present, its listed peers trade at an average yield of 6.5 percent.

The OUE Commercial REIT will feature office building OUE Bayfront in Singapore and the Lippo Plaza Property in Shanghai.

CIMB, Oversea-Chinese Banking Corp and Standard Chartered are the joint global co-ordinators on the IPO, as well as joint bookrunners with Citigroup, JPMorgan and RHB.
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QUOTE(elea88 @ Jan 8 2014, 01:48 PM)
U intend to get it?
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nope, currently focusing on M'sia Market 1st sweat.gif
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Hi Gary,

Want to ask your opinion on LIPPO MALL indonesia Reits.... Occupancy 93%, yield is 8%. Gearing 24.5%


I havent see/visit physical mall ...good or not ?
by the way their Indonesia Government Bond 10Y is 9%...


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Hi Gary,

Want to ask your opinion on LIPPO MALL indonesia Reits.... Occupancy 93%, yield is 8%. Gearing 24.5%
I havent see/visit physical mall  ...good or not ?
by the way their Indonesia Government Bond 10Y is 9%...
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In my opinion... is a mix of good and bad malls. Most of the malls are neighborhood and on the fringe...

Several good malls like sun plaza & pluit village. Others are mostly neighborhood malls or some 3rd class retail space...loan in SGD but income is in IDR. The yield is a bit low compared to the exposure risk.

Yes Indonesia 10Y bond is around 8.5% to 9%
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QUOTE(elea88 @ Dec 7 2013, 09:11 AM)
AIMSAMPI Reit
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dropped so much?
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Trade done AIMS AMP CAP today SGD 1.40.... Shopping time....
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QUOTE(elea88 @ Jan 9 2014, 08:23 PM)
Trade done AIMS AMP CAP today SGD 1.40.... Shopping time....
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ouch.. AIMS AMP CAP and now become SGD 1.38...
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ouch.. AIMS AMP CAP and now become SGD 1.38...
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I feel that retail reits are turning around now... not so much for the office/industrial reits...
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Dividend time... First Reit

http://firstreit.listedcompany.com/newsroo...100097543.1.pdf

NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN THAT the Transfer Books and Register of Unitholders of First Real Estate
Investment Trust (“First REIT”) will be closed at 5.00 p.m. on 27 January 2014 (the “Books Closure
Date”) to determine Unitholders’ entitlements to First REIT’s distribution. First REIT has announced a
distribution of 1.97 cents per unit in First REIT (“Unit”) for the period from 1 October 2013 to
31 December 2013, comprising a taxable income component of 0.08 cents per Unit, a tax-exempt
income component of 1.24 cents per Unit and a capital component of 0.65 cents per Unit (the
“Distribution”).
Unitholders of First REIT (“Unitholders”) whose securities accounts with The Central Depository (Pte)
Limited (“CDP”) are credited with Units as at the Books Closure Date will be entitled to the Distribution
to be paid on 28 February 2014.
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anyone looking at OUEREIT? seem abit risky.
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starhill global reit
dpu of 1.23cents to be paid 25/2

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QUOTE(elea88 @ Jan 9 2014, 08:23 PM)
Trade done AIMS AMP CAP today SGD 1.40.... Shopping time....
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1.44 now, sgd appr, nice, isn't it? thumbup.gif

i added a bit last week at 1.41.

oso happy with suntec.
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Dec 30 2013, 03:34 PM)
can't be 2.63 that high... max maybe 2.61 today.

sgd has been moving between 2.55 to 2.60 in the last year.
but it looks like staying in the higher end more than not.

personally, i see no hope in rm strengthening, only down.
which is the main reason i bought into sgreits with rm starting a year ago or so.
use the sgd div to buy more sg reits, not convert back to rm.
i am hopeful it'll turn out much better in 5 yrs time compared to buying myreits in rm.
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Hi,

I have the same thinking, that I should start buying SREIT to hedge against the falling MYR. Can you please share the tools and experience? Do you use CIMB iTrade? I do have access to Singapore bourse now with iTrade but not quite sure of things like:
1. tax?
2. forex rate?
3. broker fees, etc.?
4. how to instruct dividends to be deposited into a SGD trust account?
5. how to instruct dividends to be used to buy more REITS?

Thanks in advance.
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QUOTE(wjchay @ Jan 29 2014, 10:49 AM)
Hi,

I have the same thinking, that I should start buying SREIT to hedge against the falling MYR. Can you please share the tools and experience? Do you use CIMB iTrade? I do have access to Singapore bourse now with iTrade but not quite sure of things like:
1. tax?
2. forex rate?
3. broker fees, etc.?
4. how to instruct dividends to be deposited into a SGD trust account?
5. how to instruct dividends to be used to buy more REITS?

Thanks in advance.
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yes, i use cimbitrade. take note the info u see online is 10min lag unless u subscribe n pay for a real time service.

1. tax... sgd div are tax free
2. forex... at itrade, check under reports, client summary at the end of the day of purchase, u see the indicative exchange rate. the final one used is what it is on settlement day. so, need to estimate rm to be deposited for payment.
3. not sure if for all, but is 0.42% <rm100k, 0.275% >rm100k, min sgd25. plus some other minor misc fees. u can ask broker to furnish u the table.
4-5. div is auto deposited into the sgd trust account, stay in sgd, no interest gained. if there is sgd, at next purchase, make sure u indicate settlement in sgd - what is there will be used first, balance will be taken from your rm account (assuming u have deposited). if u want sgd in trust acc to be converted to rm and return to yr rm account, just call yr assigned broker.

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jan 29 2014, 10:43 AM)
1.44 now, sgd appr, nice, isn't it?  thumbup.gif

i added a bit last week at 1.41.

oso happy with suntec.
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AIMS AMP
Distribution For 1 October 2013 to 31 December 2013
Distribution Rate 2.770 cents per Unit
Books Closure Date 10 February 2014
Payment Date 27 March 2014
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AIMS AMP
Distribution For 1 October 2013 to 31 December 2013
Distribution Rate 2.770 cents per Unit
Books Closure Date 10 February 2014
Payment Date 27 March 2014
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nice... 7.7% div, add 2% currency appr, maybe bit of cap appr, total possible 10% roi pa.! biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jan 29 2014, 12:19 PM)
yes, i use cimbitrade. take note the info u see online is 10min lag unless u subscribe n pay for a real time service.

1. tax... sgd div are tax free
2. forex... at itrade, check under reports, client summary at the end of the day of purchase, u see the indicative exchange rate. the final one used is what it is on settlement day. so, need to estimate rm to be deposited for payment.
3. not sure if for all, but is 0.42% <rm100k, 0.275% >rm100k, min sgd25. plus some other minor misc fees. u can ask broker to furnish u the table.
4-5. div is auto deposited into the sgd trust account, stay in sgd, no interest gained. if there is sgd, at next purchase, make sure u indicate settlement in sgd - what is there will be used first, balance will be taken from your rm account (assuming u have deposited). if u want sgd in trust acc to be converted to rm and return to yr rm account, just call yr assigned broker.
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Hi AVFAN,

Thanks for the info. I am waiting for at least a major correction in SG before going into this. At the going rate, MYR-SGD forex is not favorable.


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QUOTE(wjchay @ Feb 6 2014, 03:31 PM)
Hi AVFAN,

Thanks for the info. I am waiting for at least a major correction in SG before going into this. At the going rate, MYR-SGD forex is not favorable.
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if dow n nikkei keeps holding strong, no chance for sgx to correct.

us bond yields are >2.7%, unlikely sg reit prices will gain quickly.

maybe more of an exchange rate issue at this time. rm is getting more n more unfavorable by the week!

i bot some 2 weeks ago at 2.625, today probably 2.63x.

just read cimb report sg industrial activity picked up in jan, might be time to examine aimsampi and even sabana. smile.gif

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Ringgit falls to fresh record low of RM2.624 against Singapore dollar

February 07, 2014

The Malaysian ringgit hit a fresh record low against the Singapore dollar this week as several regional currencies continue to stay weak, which analysts attributed to capital outflows from emerging markets to developed markets.

The Straits Times reported that just three days after softening to an all-time low of RM2.622 against the Singdollar last Thursday, the ringgit fell further to RM2.624 at the start of this week.

It was hovering around RM2.6207 yesterday, said the republic's authoritative newspaper.

The ringgit's persistent weakness was not so much due to the Singdollar gaining strength, but rather a massive outflow of capital from the emerging markets back to developed markets, experts told broadsheet.

"Overall, in terms of fiscal and financial strength, (Singapore) is perceived to be stronger, so our currency has held up better and it looks as if the ringgit has been weakening against the Singdollar," Fundsupermart general manager Wong Sui Jau was quoted as saying.

Oanda currency analyst Wu Mingze agreed, telling The Straits Times: "In terms of fundamentals, Malaysia is not looking great, but it's not that bad either compared to Thailand, the Philippines, or Vietnam."
http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/busines...ingapore-dollar

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Feb 7 2014, 10:24 AM)
if dow n nikkei keeps holding strong, no chance for sgx to correct.

us bond yields are >2.7%, unlikely sg reit prices will gain quickly.

maybe more of an exchange rate issue at this time. rm is getting more n more unfavorable by the week!

i bot some 2 weeks ago at 2.625, today probably 2.63x.

just read cimb report sg industrial activity picked up in jan, might be time to examine aimsampi and even sabana. smile.gif
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today bankers TT rate is 2.65 already... should hv transfered money 2 weeks back at 2.58...
I shall wait somemore...
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wow...SGD still going up...
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QUOTE(elea88 @ Feb 11 2014, 10:41 AM)
wow...SGD still going up...
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been nibbling a bit here n there since last week...
everything bot, final rate comes out higher than indicated rate, so pay more rm. sad.gif

just hope the direction dun reverse too much!
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Feb 11 2014, 11:39 AM)
been nibbling a bit here n there since last week...
everything bot, final rate comes out higher than indicated rate, so pay more rm. sad.gif

just hope the direction dun reverse too much!
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the plus point is, Feb dividends coming soon....
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jan 29 2014, 11:19 AM)
yes, i use cimbitrade. take note the info u see online is 10min lag unless u subscribe n pay for a real time service.

3. not sure if for all, but is 0.42% <rm100k, 0.275% >rm100k, min sgd25. plus some other minor misc fees. u can ask broker to furnish u the table.
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10 minutes later?? hmm.gif then got arbitrage opportunity?? drool.gif

what are the clearing fees and stamp duty??

Is it cheaper/better to open a bank & trading account in Sg to do Sg trading?
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10 minutes later??  hmm.gif then got arbitrage opportunity??  drool.gif

what are the clearing fees and stamp duty??

Is it cheaper/better to open a bank & trading account in Sg to do Sg trading?
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i open sg bank & trading in Singapore recently with DBS BANK.
brokerage SG18 min.
Do everything online. Buy and sell....
So far quite efficient.

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QUOTE(elea88 @ Feb 13 2014, 07:42 AM)
i open sg bank & trading in Singapore recently with DBS BANK.
brokerage SG18 min.
Do everything online. Buy and sell....
So far quite efficient.
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thanks for the info. Above minimum charge, how much in %??

I assume no stamp duty and clearing fee like in Bursa Malaysia?? hmm.gif
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thanks for the info. Above minimum charge, how much in %??

I assume no stamp duty and clearing fee like in Bursa Malaysia??  hmm.gif
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sure got... all the charges.check here

http://www.dbsvonline.com/English/index.as...sp&SubMenuLink=


http://help-your-money.blogspot.com/2011/0...-singapore.html
pls note risk with DBS. can buy. but sell i am not sure how. Apparently, when sell, the brokerage rate is different.
So, far, I only invested in REITS for dividend collections.

http://help-your-money.blogspot.com/2011/0...ine-shares.html
maybe u can check this out too.. much cheaper.
But with STD CHART, u need address in SINGAPORE to open an account.
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What are the recommended reit stocks now?
Also, do we need to claim the tax exemption or is automatically zero.
What is capital dividend?

Thanks.
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QUOTE(elea88 @ Feb 13 2014, 07:42 AM)
i open sg bank & trading in Singapore recently with DBS BANK.
brokerage SG18 min.
Do everything online. Buy and sell....
So far quite efficient.
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can we apply online from Malaysia?
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sure got... all the charges.check here

http://www.dbsvonline.com/English/index.as...sp&SubMenuLink=
http://help-your-money.blogspot.com/2011/0...-singapore.html
pls note risk with DBS. can buy. but sell i am not sure how. Apparently, when sell, the brokerage rate is different.
So, far, I only invested in REITS for dividend collections.

http://help-your-money.blogspot.com/2011/0...ine-shares.html
maybe u can check this out too.. much cheaper.
But with STD CHART, u need address in SINGAPORE to open an account.
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Thanks!!

I saw the reviews on StandChart's platform, apparently not so good. sad.gif
their brokerage fee is quite attractive though. Too bad I'm not a premier banker in Singapore.

Will probably get a DBS Vickers soon. smile.gif
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Croesus Retail Trust

wah wah... so good div...

We are pleased to inform you that CRT will distribute 5.24 Singapore cents per Unit for the period from 10 May 2013 to 31 December 2013 (the “Distribution”).

IMPORTANT DATES AND TIMES
Distribution period
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10 May 2013 to 31 December 2013
Distribution amount
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5.24 Singapore cents per Unit
Ex-distribution date
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24 February 2014
Books closure date
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Payment date
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Croesus Retail Trust

wah wah... so good div...

We are pleased to inform you that CRT will distribute 5.24 Singapore cents per Unit for the period from 10 May 2013 to 31 December 2013 (the “Distribution”).

IMPORTANT DATES AND TIMES
Distribution period
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10 May 2013 to 31 December 2013
Distribution amount
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5.24 Singapore cents per Unit
Ex-distribution date
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24 February 2014
Books closure date
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Lippo Mall also div time...

Tax-exempt distribution of 0.40 cents per unit and capital distribution of 0.16 cents per unit



Record Date

21/02/2014



Record Time

17:00



Date Paid/Payable (if applicable)

14/03/2014

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wah wah... so good div...

We are pleased to inform you that CRT will distribute 5.24 Singapore cents per Unit for the period from 10 May 2013 to 31 December 2013 (the “Distribution”).

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Distribution amount
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Good dividend .. but I did not manage to buy... Key in 0.87.. but so far not done at all.
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QUOTE(tigana @ Feb 13 2014, 07:10 PM)
can we apply online from Malaysia?
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Cannot open ac online... u hv to make an appearance there at least one time.
just take a bus in the morning, reach afternoon, and zip over to
DBS HQ. That day, i was there, open DBS BANK AC & DBS VICKERS took us
from 2.30pm to almost 5 plus.. waiting quite long for our turn.... We did not expect
the long waiting time in SUPER EFFICIENT SINGAPORE.

Coz the day that i was there, there were many foreigners opening account.

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QUOTE(elea88 @ Feb 15 2014, 12:21 PM)
Cannot open ac online... u hv to make an appearance there at least one time.
just take a bus in the morning, reach afternoon, and zip over to
DBS HQ. That day, i was there, open DBS BANK AC & DBS VICKERS took us
from 2.30pm to almost 5 plus.. waiting quite long for our turn.... We did not expect
the long waiting time in SUPER EFFICIENT SINGAPORE.

Coz the day that i was there, there were many foreigners opening account.
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I see.
This is the DBS account which allows you to buy and not sell, right?
Thanks
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Good dividend .. but I did not manage to buy... Key in 0.87.. but so far not done at all.
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Managed to collect at 87,5 cents
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AIMS AMP

Rights ratio: 7 rights units for every 40 existing AACI REIT Units

in Singapore, Units means?

1 lot share is it 1000 unit?


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AIMS AMP

Rights ratio: 7 rights units for every 40 existing AACI REIT Units

in Singapore, Units means?

1 lot share is it 1000 unit?
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1 unit = 1 share

1 lot = 1000 share

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1 unit = 1 share

1 lot = 1000 share
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so, if i got 5 lot AIM SAMP which is 5000 units / 40 = 125 x 7 =875 units?
so odd?
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so, if i got 5 lot AIM SAMP which is 5000 units / 40 = 125 x 7 =875 units?
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unfortunately ya... blame the stock for giving funny ratios... you can sell away your rights, buy more rights from odd lot market or apply for excess rights to even it out...

Apply excess rights to round up the odd lot will have priority over other applicant (but not guaranteed)..

Read this review of the rights issue...

http://singaporeanstocksinvestor.blogspot....reit-7-for.html

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unfortunately ya... blame the stock for giving funny ratios... you can sell away your rights, buy more rights from odd lot market or apply for excess rights to even it out...

Apply excess rights to round up the odd lot will have priority over other applicant (but not guaranteed)..

Read this review of the rights issue...

http://singaporeanstocksinvestor.blogspot....reit-7-for.html
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any idea how to sell or buy rights via DBS VICKERS? same like buy share?
Brokerage same SG18?
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any idea how to sell or buy rights via DBS VICKERS? same like buy share?
Brokerage same SG18?
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Buy and sell right brokerage is the same...

But for subscribing rights issue, i am not sure cause never do it before.... wink.gif
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unfortunately ya... blame the stock for giving funny ratios... you can sell away your rights, buy more rights from odd lot market or apply for excess rights to even it out...

Apply excess rights to round up the odd lot will have priority over other applicant (but not guaranteed)..

Read this review of the rights issue...

http://singaporeanstocksinvestor.blogspot....reit-7-for.html
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errm another blur question:
How to apply for rights from Malaysia? Send courier with bank draft?
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errm another blur question:
How to apply for rights from Malaysia? Send courier with bank draft?
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Usually need to fill form and do ATM/Ebanking transfer.. like i say from malaysia not so sure cause i never do before.

Best ask your sg broker... wink.gif
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Usually need to fill form and do ATM/Ebanking transfer.. like i say from malaysia not so sure cause i never do before.

Best ask your sg broker...  wink.gif
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I think you need a Singapore address to be eligible for rights issue docs to be sent to you. If you open CDP account without a Singapore address, you are not eligible.
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I think you need a Singapore address to be eligible for rights issue docs to be sent to you. If you open CDP account without a Singapore address, you are not eligible.
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All shareholder no matter which country you are from are eligible... tongue.gif Only IPO is restricted..

The form can be downloaded from SGX anyway...

Only the payment need to confirm cause can use ATM or ebanking transfer but to which account only...

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What about Malaysians who buy Singapore shares thru OSK, RHB brokerage? How do they apply for these rights issues?

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What about Malaysians who buy Singapore shares thru OSK, RHB brokerage? How do they apply for these rights issues?
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Osk broker will assist you, done it before....
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I just received a call from my broker and they said that I can be exempted from foreign witholding tax on AIMS dividend, and all I have to do is give my consent.

Is this normal?
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I just received a call from my broker and they said that I can be exempted from foreign witholding tax on AIMS dividend, and all I have to do is give my consent.

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As a foreign individual, you just have to confirm your status with your broker to get the exemption.
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What about Malaysians who buy Singapore shares thru OSK, RHB brokerage? How do they apply for these rights issues?
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just spoke to cimb broker, they will give instructions when the time comes.
can sell/buy oddlots via broker, can apply for special rights to round up oddlots.
the ex-date for rights entitlement is 24 feb which means last date to get the rights is to buy on 21 feb.

impt dates:
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Oh! So the tax only applies to SG residents? I thought it was the other way around sweat.gif
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Feb 19 2014, 11:24 AM)
just spoke to cimb broker, they will give instructions when the time comes.
can sell/buy oddlots via broker, can apply for special rights to round up oddlots.
the ex-date for rights entitlement is 24 feb which means last date to get the rights is to buy on 21 feb.

impt dates:
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But if buy on 21 Feb need 3 working days to complete transaction, so too late , right?
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But if buy on 21 Feb need 3 working days to complete transaction, so too late , right?
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i wud think if buy on 21 feb, u either sell or pay up by feb 26, 3 working days.
on 27 feb, if paid up, the rights will be entitled, can sell them if u wish as the trading of rights starts that day.

2 more days to buy, closing today 1.40.
looks good to get the rights and exercise them at 1.08.
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do most singaporeans rent their accommodation or try to own one like Malaysians??
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do most singaporeans rent their accommodation or try to own one like Malaysians??
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wat has that got to do with sg reits?
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wat has that got to do with sg reits?
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For those with CDP account and address is outside of Singapore, the right issue address has to be Singapore address to receive the document.

Login to CDP online, under My Profile->”View & Update Profile”, there are the below addresses:

1) Mailing Address
2) Residential Address
3) Rights Mailing Address -
If you're maintaining foreign mailing address, you will need to provide a Singapore rights mailing address in order to receive documents for rights issue.

So to receive right issue docs, update No 3 above...

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just wondering whether to invest in housing REITs, to gauge the demand.
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Usually REITS own properties to be rented to businesses, like shopping mall, warehouse, office.
(these guys don't mind paying huge rent)
Some REITS own hotels.
Very few REITS (service apartment) actually rent to normal individuals.
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You can download the rights subscription form online lah from SGX website. No need mailing address.  tongue.gif
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Me, considering selling off rights issue as do not want to be saddled with odd units. As Singapore 1 lot = 1000 units.
Unlike M'sia 1 lot = 100 units.

As for the online form.. hv no idea where it is.
If anyone found the link, pls share ya....

Dateline to update CDP with Singapore add for AIM SAMP rights if not mistaken is before 24 Feb 2014.
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Me, considering selling off rights issue as do not want to be saddled with odd units. As Singapore 1 lot = 1000 units.
Unlike M'sia 1 lot = 100 units.

As for the online form.. hv no idea where it is.
If anyone found the link, pls share ya....

Dateline to update CDP with Singapore add for AIM SAMP rights if not mistaken is before 24 Feb 2014.
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Usually i just sell off the rights, and re-buy more units later, less hassle. wink.gif
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QUOTE(elea88 @ Feb 20 2014, 06:04 PM)
Me, considering selling off rights issue as do not want to be saddled with odd units. As Singapore 1 lot = 1000 units.
Unlike M'sia 1 lot = 100 units.

can and shud buy oddlots rights, exercise them. such exercises usually end up nice gain.

expecting price 0.20+1.08 = 1.28, still 8-10 cents to gain assuming eventual reit price 1.36-1.38.

ok, 7 for 40 isn't that much but still a bonus...

more so now sgd at 2.61, not too bad rate to pay. later, 2.63, 2.65...!
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Feb 20 2014, 06:18 PM)
can and shud buy oddlots rights, exercise them. such exercises usually end up nice gain.

expecting price 0.20+1.08 = 1.28, still 8-10 cents to gain assuming eventual reit price 1.36-1.38.

ok, 7 for 40 isn't that much but still a bonus...

more so now sgd at 2.61, not too bad rate to pay. later, 2.63, 2.65...!
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transaction cost?
Forex Cost?
All hv to cost in...

SGD is now 2.64 65 already lor... I hv been monitoring past few days to transfer funds...
did not budge from the 2.64 ; 2.65.
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Feb 20 2014, 06:18 PM)
can and shud buy oddlots rights, exercise them. such exercises usually end up nice gain.

expecting price 0.20+1.08 = 1.28, still 8-10 cents to gain assuming eventual reit price 1.36-1.38.

ok, 7 for 40 isn't that much but still a bonus...

more so now sgd at 2.61, not too bad rate to pay. later, 2.63, 2.65...!
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Subscribe to rights in SG is very messy and not worth the effort... i rather sell the rights. wink.gif

Well depend if there is anyone who want to go through all the rights issue. If nominee account then much easier...

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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 20 2014, 06:22 PM)
Subscribe to rights in SG is very messy and not worth the effort... i rather sell the rights.  wink.gif

Well depend if there is anyone who want to go through all the rights issue.  If nominee account then much easier...
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ya, i was speaking for nominee acc holder. they told me it's no hassle.
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Can i ask how can i invest in sg?
Do i need a sg broker?
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QUOTE(elea88 @ Feb 20 2014, 06:21 PM)
transaction cost?
Forex Cost?
All hv to cost in...

SGD is now 2.64 65 already lor... I hv been monitoring past few days to transfer funds...
did not budge from the 2.64 ; 2.65.
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transact costs.. yes always there, but i still expect gain.

2.64-2.65? seriously, if yr conventional bank charge higher, do via dbs, not nominee/trustee, right?

i been buying n paying last few days. cimb trustee rate 2.62-2.625 only. today rate should be 2.615 only.
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Can i ask how can i invest in sg?
Do i need a sg broker?
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can do via cimb trustee acc. think mbb, pbb, hlb also.

which broker r u using?
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Feb 20 2014, 06:35 PM)
can do via cimb trustee acc. think mbb, pbb, hlb also.

which broker r u using?
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they may have, u shud ask yr broker there first.

if necessary, u can always open new acc with any bank which has that facility.
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Feb 20 2014, 06:53 PM)
they may have, u shud ask yr broker there first.

if necessary, u can always open new acc with any bank which has that facility.
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i see that in there 1 lot is 1000 units? Isit it too much for malaysians?
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i see that in there 1 lot is 1000 units? Isit it too much for malaysians?
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well, there are counters <sgd1, 40 cents...
http://reitdata.com/

another way to look at it... given that u pay transaction costs incl min brokerage fee and fx spread, not worth it if value is too small.

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QUOTE(elea88 @ Feb 20 2014, 06:21 PM)
SGD is now 2.64 65 already lor... I hv been monitoring past few days to transfer funds...
did not budge from the 2.64 ; 2.65.
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yesterday, some of my due ones paid, actual at 2.6235.

today, the ones not due yet, indicated at 2.6215.




and reminder ayone interested... aimsampi rights issue 7 for 40, last day to get today. looks like going to close at 1.37-1.38.
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QUOTE(tigana @ Feb 20 2014, 05:52 PM)
Usually REITS own properties to be rented to businesses, like shopping mall, warehouse, office.
(these guys don't mind paying huge rent)
Some REITS own hotels.
Very few REITS (service apartment) actually rent to normal individuals.
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I see.

Thanks. sweat.gif sweat.gif
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Feb 21 2014, 09:48 AM)
yesterday, some of my due ones paid, actual at 2.6235.

today, the ones not due yet, indicated at 2.6215.
and reminder ayone interested... aimsampi rights issue 7 for 40, last day to get today. looks like going to close at 1.37-1.38.
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just for discussion, u sure if buy today 21 feb 2014.. still entitled for rights?
coz BOOKS CLOSURE DATE is 24 Feb. and SGX got this T+3 thing to consider.
Meaning if buy today 21 Feb 2014, it's considered in the ac only on 26 Feb 2014.

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Feb 21 2014, 09:48 AM)
yesterday, some of my due ones paid, actual at 2.6235.

today, the ones not due yet, indicated at 2.6215.
and reminder ayone interested... aimsampi rights issue 7 for 40, last day to get today. looks like going to close at 1.37-1.38.
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Mind to share how much cimb charging for foreign stock custodian fee per counter ? do they charge additional fee for dividen received ? any corporate action fees such as subcribing to rights issue ?


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QUOTE(elea88 @ Feb 21 2014, 05:40 PM)
just for discussion, u sure if buy today 21 feb 2014.. still entitled for rights?
coz BOOKS CLOSURE DATE is 24 Feb. and SGX got this T+3 thing to consider.
Meaning if buy today 21 Feb 2014, it's considered in the ac only on 26 Feb 2014.
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i may have made a mistake as the info wasn't clear before. according to below, ex-date was 20 feb.

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AIMS AMP CAP INDUSTRIAL REIT
Particulars :
OFFER OF 7 FOR 40 @ SGD 1.08
Ex-date :
20 Feb 2014
Buy-In Last Cum Date :
24 Feb 2014
Record Date :
24 Feb 2014
http://infopub.sgx.com/Apps?A=Cow_Corporat...llinOne&F=19239


i had bot some on 17 feb, but will still need to buy some oddlots next week to round up.
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QUOTE(apagranpa10 @ Feb 21 2014, 09:10 PM)
Mind to share how much cimb charging for foreign stock custodian fee per counter ? do they charge additional fee for dividen received ? any corporate action fees such as subcribing to rights issue ?
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what is custodian fee? if u mean a regular charge just to have them as trustee, answer is no. no such charge.

sg dividends - a flat sgd10 "nominees service fee".

action fees for ri, etc... dunno yet, will see next week. not expecting surprises.

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Feb 22 2014, 01:00 PM)
what is custodian fee? if u mean a regular charge just to have them as trustee, answer is no. no such charge.

sg dividends - a flat sgd10 "nominees service fee".

action fees for ri, etc... dunno yet, will see next week. not expecting surprises.
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Feb 22 2014, 01:00 PM)
what is custodian fee? if u mean a regular charge just to have them as trustee, answer is no. no such charge.

sg dividends - a flat sgd10 "nominees service fee".

action fees for ri, etc... dunno yet, will see next week. not expecting surprises.
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If u bought a foreign stocks/reits using the trustee/nominee acc and hold the stocks in that acc for lets say 1 year. Some brokerage will charge for this in a form of "safe keeping the stocks for u". They call this Custodian fee.

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aimsampi rights started trading today:

normal and 25 units lots same price 0.245-0.250

mother is now 1.35.

exercise price 1.08, sell or buy the rights, not much difference...
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http://sgx.i3investor.com/blogs/singapores...tnews/15187.jsp

suntec reit - Suggested TEchnical buy?

BUY with a target price of S$1.74 as the stock is currently trending above its rising 20-day EMA and may continue to trade in its prevailing uptrend. A potential golden cross could be formed by its 50 and 200-day EMA and a close above S$1.68 would be desirable for the bulls. Its stochastics indicator looks poised to form a bullish crossover and its +DI has turned up and may continue to rise correspondingly with its rising ADX. Protective stops could be placed at S$1.64.
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QUOTE(elea88 @ Mar 4 2014, 07:31 AM)
http://sgx.i3investor.com/blogs/singapores...tnews/15187.jsp

suntec reit - Suggested TEchnical buy?

BUY with a target price of S$1.74 as the stock is currently trending above its rising 20-day EMA and may continue to trade in its prevailing uptrend. A potential golden cross could be formed by its 50 and 200-day EMA and a close above S$1.68 would be desirable for the bulls. Its stochastics indicator looks poised to form a bullish crossover and its +DI has turned up and may continue to rise correspondingly with its rising ADX. Protective stops could be placed at S$1.64.
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noticeably, both biggies suntec n capitamall have been moving up since their last lows 1-2 months ago. my best performers, nice...
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First REIT broadens asset base in Indonesia
• To acquire Siloam Hospitals Purwakarta at an attractive discount of 17.3%
• Raises total asset size to S$1.09 billion and expands portfolio to 15 properties
• Attractive initial rental yield of close to 11%, higher than existing properties


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Three Cheap REITs?
http://www.fool.sg/2014/03/18/three-cheap-...source=facebook


These Reits on discount?

Buy, Buy, Buy or Bye ,Bye?
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QUOTE(elea88 @ Mar 25 2014, 05:02 PM)
Three Cheap REITs?
http://www.fool.sg/2014/03/18/three-cheap-...source=facebook
These Reits on discount?

Buy, Buy, Buy or Bye ,Bye?
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suntec and starhill are both good bets, imo.
both stable and inching up very slowly, yield 6.x%.
no shocking declines like some of the myreits!

sabana seems to be thawing after months in the cold...
capitamall's gaining good today! thumbup.gif
aimsampi... a little disappointing at 1.34 after exercise...


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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Apr 2 2014, 10:53 AM)
suntec and starhill are both good bets, imo.
both stable and inching up very slowly, yield 6.x%.
no shocking declines like some of the myreits!

sabana seems to be thawing after months in the cold...
capitamall's gaining good today! thumbup.gif
aimsampi... a little disappointing at 1.34 after exercise...
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I am analysing what to buy this week. Any recommendations?
I do not have CMMT.

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I am analysing what to buy this week. Any recommendations?
I do not have CMMT.
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i am planning to add starhill and suntec.

but first need to sell some myreit first - this one hard to do as most are in the red.... sad.gif
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Apr 2 2014, 11:10 AM)
i am planning to add starhill and suntec.

but first need to sell some myreit first - this one hard to do as most are in the red.... sad.gif
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ya, they will be declaring dividend soon... around this month.
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ya, they will be declaring dividend soon... around this month.
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added anything or not?

most sg reits incl suntec, have moved up gradually in the last few weeks.

even aimsampi is back to 1.39! thumbup.gif

maybe becos of weak usd... usd1=sg1.25 now...
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Apr 9 2014, 10:52 AM)
added anything or not?

most sg reits incl suntec, have moved up gradually in the last few weeks.

even aimsampi is back to 1.39! thumbup.gif

maybe becos of weak usd... usd1=sg1.25 now...
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yes, the exchange rate is now favourable.

I am looking at :
capitacommercial trust - RM1.5 plus
next div sometime august 2014


and Mapletree logistics trust

but still analysing.

Suntect Starhill, Aim, First... already moving up... as will be declaring dividend soon..


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QUOTE(James360L @ Apr 10 2014, 07:12 PM)
Standard Chartered Bank have recently undergone a website revamp and that same page above can now be found here https://www.sc.com/sg/save/saving-esaver.html
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Hv to check the term FOREIGNER. coz last year I checked, they said, must have address in Singapore.

Since I do not have a permanent address in Singapore, I opted for DBS BANK instead.
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capital mall trust or Capital Commercial Trust?
Which one better?
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Apr 9 2014, 10:52 AM)
added anything or not?

most sg reits incl suntec, have moved up gradually in the last few weeks.

even aimsampi is back to 1.39! thumbup.gif

maybe becos of weak usd... usd1=sg1.25 now...
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aim sampi is now 1.43...
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QUOTE(elea88 @ Apr 14 2014, 06:27 PM)
aim sampi is now 1.43...
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yep, nice. sabana is also back to 1.08.

all my sgreits now back in the green.

myreits mostly red, going redder... blink.gif


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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Apr 14 2014, 09:57 PM)
yep, nice. sabana is also back to 1.08.

all my sgreits now back in the green.

myreits mostly red, going redder... blink.gif
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Btw what happen the malaysia reits v5 forum ? seems its lock or they went v6 already ?
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Btw what happen the malaysia reits v5 forum ? seems its lock or they went v6 already ?
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v6:
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3119344/+940
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Apr 15 2014, 01:31 AM)
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http://firstreit.listedcompany.com/newsroom/fr140414.pdf

First REIT declared distribution per unit (“DPU”) of 1.99 cents, a 14.4% increase from 1Q 2013 DPU of 1.74 cents. Based on annualised DPU of 8.07 cents and closing price of S$1.11 on 11 April 2014, First REIT’s distribution yield remains at a healthy 7.3%.

yeah.. better dividend.
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QUOTE(elea88 @ Apr 16 2014, 11:01 AM)
http://firstreit.listedcompany.com/newsroom/fr140414.pdf

First REIT declared distribution per unit (“DPU”) of 1.99 cents, a 14.4% increase from 1Q 2013 DPU of 1.74 cents. Based on annualised DPU of 8.07 cents and closing price of S$1.11 on 11 April 2014, First REIT’s distribution yield remains at a healthy 7.3%.

yeah.. better dividend.
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thanks for info. will take a look. u bot some?

been looking at frasers comm trust, one of the "3 cheap reits" but seems this one is very dull despite price<nav.

suntec, capitamall, capitacomm all moving up!

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Apr 16 2014, 11:32 AM)
thanks for info. will take a look. u bot some?

been looking at frasers comm trust, one of the "3 cheap reits" but seems this one is very dull despite price<nav.

suntec, capitamall, capitacomm all moving up!
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FIRST REIT i bought last year.

I am looking at
capitacommercial trust key in RM1.5 plus
next div sometime august 2014
but still not done now is 1.6plus


and Mapletree logistics trust
now is 1.07

i key in 1.05.. till today not done.. haha

most reits moving up. So, to AVERAGE UP? coz SGD EXCHANGE now is quite favourable too...
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QUOTE(elea88 @ Apr 16 2014, 11:38 AM)
FIRST REIT i bought last year.

I am looking at
capitacommercial trust key in RM1.5 plus
next div sometime august 2014
but still not done now is 1.6plus
and Mapletree logistics trust
now is 1.07

i key in 1.05.. till today not done.. haha

most reits moving up. So, to AVERAGE UP? coz SGD EXCHANGE now is quite favourable too...
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sgreits, think need to average up, myriets, it's avearge down at this time.

when the sentiments r gud, shudn't wait, just buy.

this frasers comm... looking at it all morning 1.265-1.27. now, it's gone to 1.275-1.28! cool2.gif

yes, wud like some first reit in my basket since i hv nothing about healthcare. thanks for headsup again.
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Apr 16 2014, 11:56 AM)
sgreits, think need to average up, myriets, it's avearge down at this time.

when the sentiments r gud, shudn't wait, just buy.

this frasers comm... looking at it all morning 1.265-1.27. now, it's gone to 1.275-1.28! cool2.gif

yes, wud like some first reit in my basket since i hv nothing about healthcare. thanks for headsup again.
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first reit has many indonesia properties. no fear falling rupiah ?
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first reit has many indonesia properties. no fear falling rupiah ?
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sure it's a concern but rupiah seems stable now, worst over, maybe...?

pretty positive news on recent acquisitions, more to come, it seems.

QUOTE
Highlights for First REIT’s Healthy First Quarter

By Sudhan P - April 15, 2014 | See also: AW9U

First REIT (SGX: AW9U), Singapore’s first healthcare-related real estate investment trust (REIT) with 14 properties in Indonesia, Singapore and South Korea, had just declared a clean bill of health if its latest first quarter results are anything to go by.

Quarterly gross revenue increased by 28.3% year-on-year to S$22.5 million, while net property income surged 29.6% to S$22.2 million. There was a 22.3% rise in distributions to S$14.2 million as compared to the previous year. As a result,  the REIT’s distribution per unit (DPU) had increased by 14.4% to 1.99 Singapore cents versus the DPU of 1.74 Singapore cents a year ago.

First REIT’s good showing was due largely to contributions from its newly acquired Indonesian assets,  Siloam Hospitals Bali (SHBL) and Siloam Hospitals TB Simatupang (SHTS). Those two hospitals came on board in May last year.

As of 31 March 2014, the gearing at First REIT stood at around 32%, unchanged from the previous quarter. The REIT’s net asset value however, declined slightly from 96.64 Singapore cents (as of 31 Dec 2013) to 96.49 Singapore cents.

The healthcare REIT expects the Indonesian political elections this year to not cause any drastic change in regulations or policy within the healthcare industry in the short to medium term.

First REIT’s sponsor, Lippo Karawaci, has a strong pipeline of 24 hospitals from which the REIT can explore for potential acquisitions. In Singapore, over 11,000 new hospital and nursing home beds are expected to be added and this may bode well for First REIT in terms of acquisition opportunities; the REIT already owns three nursing homes in our sunny island.
http://www.fool.sg/2014/04/15/highlights-f...-first-quarter/


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QUOTE(elea88 @ Apr 16 2014, 11:01 AM)
http://firstreit.listedcompany.com/newsroom/fr140414.pdf

First REIT declared distribution per unit (“DPU”) of 1.99 cents, a 14.4% increase from 1Q 2013 DPU of 1.74 cents. Based on annualised DPU of 8.07 cents and closing price of S$1.11 on 11 April 2014, First REIT’s distribution yield remains at a healthy 7.3%.

yeah.. better dividend.
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How's 1.99 cents an annualised DPU of 8.07 cents?
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first reit has many indonesia properties. no fear falling rupiah ?
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If not mistaken its rental collected in SGD....
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QUOTE(elea88 @ Apr 16 2014, 11:01 AM)
http://firstreit.listedcompany.com/newsroom/fr140414.pdf

First REIT declared distribution per unit (“DPU”) of 1.99 cents, a 14.4% increase from 1Q 2013 DPU of 1.74 cents. Based on annualised DPU of 8.07 cents and closing price of S$1.11 on 11 April 2014, First REIT’s distribution yield remains at a healthy 7.3%.

yeah.. better dividend.
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failed to get at 1.135 yesterday.

today, 1.14-1.145...

ex date is 21 apr, so need to buy today or tmrw to get div.
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Sabana don't look so well.........

NPI down almost 20%.......... as expected lower tenancy
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I heard that they collect their rent in Singapore dollars.
This from a speaker from Singapore during a talk organised by RHB.

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