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AVFAN
post Sep 10 2013, 11:27 AM

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this thread seems ultra quiet!

rm strengthend a bit today.

made my maiden purchase today - small amounts of sabana and starhill.

may buy some suntec and aimsampi later on.

appreciate any comment!
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post Sep 10 2013, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Sep 10 2013, 01:42 PM)
For what its worth, Sabana has yet to renew over 40% of its leases set to expire in NOv.

That is a major concern.

given that it's industrial, should not be too bad.
industrial rentals on the island are still very strong, i believe, unlike here!

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post Sep 10 2013, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Sep 10 2013, 02:26 PM)
Bought more LippoMalls recently after its major fall  sweat.gif
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Sep 10 2013, 02:27 PM)
Should be good....only thing earnings in Rupiah.  So currency issues.
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nod.gif tis 1 veli tempting!

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post Sep 10 2013, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Sep 10 2013, 02:31 PM)
Yes BUT..........40% wor.............that's a lotta earnings if they cannot renew!

So its a risk
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such a current high yield, think can tahan! biggrin.gif
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post Sep 10 2013, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Sep 10 2013, 02:26 PM)
Bought more LippoMalls recently after its major fall  sweat.gif
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bro, can share wat u think it'll get to by year end?
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post Sep 10 2013, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Sep 10 2013, 05:29 PM)
heheh - sorry bro.
i didnt buy based on price expectations, i bought based on the expected DY% based on $0.43 tongue.gif
i'm a simpleton when buying REITs - just based on NAPS vs Price, D/E (or gearing) and DY%.
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okie okie...

will watch closely tmrw... i like to think the rupiah-sgd isn't going to get any worse! biggrin.gif
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post Sep 10 2013, 11:58 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Sep 10 2013, 11:24 PM)
Lippomalls earn in rupiah, but have to pay out in sgd. Exchange rate matters. Also thier loan us in sgd while thier assets us in rp. A devaluation means thier assets is worth less in sgd.  wink.gif
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that wud be my take too.

i'm taking the position that the rupiah and the reit price in sgd has seen its worst, can't get worse. if the rupiah recovers like the indian rupee, the future div payout in sgd wud improve, thus giving a better yield in future (for my price) than what it is now. or reit price moves back up. correct ar? hmm.gif

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post Sep 11 2013, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Sep 11 2013, 10:06 AM)
AV

When investing in REITs, best not to expect too much price increase gains.

Just take that if it happens as bonus.

Yield is the name of the game
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ya, i wud be less concerned if it's rm in rm reit.
was just checking if there are strong views on this particular reit revenues in rupiah.
from the recent movement, rupiah seems to have stablized, improving, which is better news than the other way round!
anyway, picked up a bit of lippo just now. smile.gif
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post Sep 16 2013, 06:38 PM

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nice to see some sg reits gaining 2-3% today! thumbup.gif
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post Oct 23 2013, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(elea88 @ Oct 18 2013, 07:35 AM)
http://mystocksinvesting.com/singapore-sto...nical-analysis/
Lippo Mall on downtrend...  and distribution yield follow Reduce.

I am thinking of collecting some at this point SGD0.445. Any comments for discussion?
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lippo still same 44-45, looks very stable.


added a bit of capitamall today, after recommendation by cimb. exch rate is not too bad at this time.

after a couple of months, very pleased with my earlier purchases of starhill, aimsampi and suntec. smile.gif
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post Nov 7 2013, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(elea88 @ Nov 6 2013, 12:11 PM)
i thinking of buying ascendasindreit and soilbuildbizreit today...
still analysing.
ascendasindreit is cum div...
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i have not looked at ascenda much.
for industrial, why not consider aimsampi? low gearing, higher div.
price today is better than last week by a few cents.

i got a bit more suntec today at 1.65.
looking at aim and lippo now.
will add bit by bit slowly.
since myreits are like... dead! tongue.gif

i do not know if there's any net big diff with actual sgd acc or via local banks trust acc.
i use cimb, so far, so good. charges, fx, look ok to me.
just got my first div. they stay in the sgd trust acc, i use them to buy new units, easy enough.
one thing, just me - i plan not to touch them for a long time.
"savings" in sgd should beat the rm in the mid-long term.

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post Nov 7 2013, 07:07 PM

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QUOTE(altung @ Nov 7 2013, 04:58 PM)
^thank you smile.gif but then i have no idea how to calculate dividend for S-REIT because got LESS TAX,  TAX EXEMPT and Annualised DPU  etc sad.gif I appreciated if anybody can help me
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check these sites, u can analyze...
http://mystocksinvesting.com/singapore-rei...end-investment/
http://reitdata.com/
http://www.sgx.com/wps/portal/sgxweb/home/...in_one/company/

i have lippo, suntec, capitamall, sabana, aimpsami and starhill global.

i look for a balanced mix of div yield, low gearing and liquidity.

other than sabana, all have cap gains and dividends, performace better than myreits so far...

u won't find the perfect one(s) - u just need to decide which approach.

all the best!
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post Dec 9 2013, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(apagranpa10 @ Dec 9 2013, 01:14 PM)
buy buy buy ?
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just picked up a bit more, looks ok to me buy at this price and yield.

sgreits all coming under pressure as rates in usa poised to go up.

myreits same but i prefer to accumulate more on sg side.

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post Dec 24 2013, 10:25 AM

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sg reit prices seem to be stabilized...

but rm is now 2.60/sgd...
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post Dec 30 2013, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(elea88 @ Dec 30 2013, 01:06 PM)
yes, if TT transfer today is 2.63... any idea if it will go back to 2.58?
my SG ac no more money 2 buy anything...

Next dividends ex dates will be in January 2014
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can't be 2.63 that high... max maybe 2.61 today.

sgd has been moving between 2.55 to 2.60 in the last year.
but it looks like staying in the higher end more than not.

personally, i see no hope in rm strengthening, only down.
which is the main reason i bought into sgreits with rm starting a year ago or so.
use the sgd div to buy more sg reits, not convert back to rm.
i am hopeful it'll turn out much better in 5 yrs time compared to buying myreits in rm.

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post Jan 29 2014, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(elea88 @ Jan 9 2014, 08:23 PM)
Trade done AIMS AMP CAP today SGD 1.40.... Shopping time....
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1.44 now, sgd appr, nice, isn't it? thumbup.gif

i added a bit last week at 1.41.

oso happy with suntec.
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post Jan 29 2014, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(wjchay @ Jan 29 2014, 10:49 AM)
Hi,

I have the same thinking, that I should start buying SREIT to hedge against the falling MYR. Can you please share the tools and experience? Do you use CIMB iTrade? I do have access to Singapore bourse now with iTrade but not quite sure of things like:
1. tax?
2. forex rate?
3. broker fees, etc.?
4. how to instruct dividends to be deposited into a SGD trust account?
5. how to instruct dividends to be used to buy more REITS?

Thanks in advance.
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yes, i use cimbitrade. take note the info u see online is 10min lag unless u subscribe n pay for a real time service.

1. tax... sgd div are tax free
2. forex... at itrade, check under reports, client summary at the end of the day of purchase, u see the indicative exchange rate. the final one used is what it is on settlement day. so, need to estimate rm to be deposited for payment.
3. not sure if for all, but is 0.42% <rm100k, 0.275% >rm100k, min sgd25. plus some other minor misc fees. u can ask broker to furnish u the table.
4-5. div is auto deposited into the sgd trust account, stay in sgd, no interest gained. if there is sgd, at next purchase, make sure u indicate settlement in sgd - what is there will be used first, balance will be taken from your rm account (assuming u have deposited). if u want sgd in trust acc to be converted to rm and return to yr rm account, just call yr assigned broker.

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post Jan 29 2014, 08:48 PM

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QUOTE(elea88 @ Jan 29 2014, 12:21 PM)
AIMS AMP
Distribution For 1 October 2013 to 31 December 2013
Distribution Rate 2.770 cents per Unit
Books Closure Date 10 February 2014
Payment Date 27 March 2014
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nice... 7.7% div, add 2% currency appr, maybe bit of cap appr, total possible 10% roi pa.! biggrin.gif
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post Feb 7 2014, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(wjchay @ Feb 6 2014, 03:31 PM)
Hi AVFAN,

Thanks for the info. I am waiting for at least a major correction in SG before going into this. At the going rate, MYR-SGD forex is not favorable.
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if dow n nikkei keeps holding strong, no chance for sgx to correct.

us bond yields are >2.7%, unlikely sg reit prices will gain quickly.

maybe more of an exchange rate issue at this time. rm is getting more n more unfavorable by the week!

i bot some 2 weeks ago at 2.625, today probably 2.63x.

just read cimb report sg industrial activity picked up in jan, might be time to examine aimsampi and even sabana. smile.gif

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Ringgit falls to fresh record low of RM2.624 against Singapore dollar

February 07, 2014

The Malaysian ringgit hit a fresh record low against the Singapore dollar this week as several regional currencies continue to stay weak, which analysts attributed to capital outflows from emerging markets to developed markets.

The Straits Times reported that just three days after softening to an all-time low of RM2.622 against the Singdollar last Thursday, the ringgit fell further to RM2.624 at the start of this week.

It was hovering around RM2.6207 yesterday, said the republic's authoritative newspaper.

The ringgit's persistent weakness was not so much due to the Singdollar gaining strength, but rather a massive outflow of capital from the emerging markets back to developed markets, experts told broadsheet.

"Overall, in terms of fiscal and financial strength, (Singapore) is perceived to be stronger, so our currency has held up better and it looks as if the ringgit has been weakening against the Singdollar," Fundsupermart general manager Wong Sui Jau was quoted as saying.

Oanda currency analyst Wu Mingze agreed, telling The Straits Times: "In terms of fundamentals, Malaysia is not looking great, but it's not that bad either compared to Thailand, the Philippines, or Vietnam."
http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/busines...ingapore-dollar

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post Feb 11 2014, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(elea88 @ Feb 11 2014, 10:41 AM)
wow...SGD still going up...
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been nibbling a bit here n there since last week...
everything bot, final rate comes out higher than indicated rate, so pay more rm. sad.gif

just hope the direction dun reverse too much!

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