this thread seems ultra quiet!
rm strengthend a bit today.
made my maiden purchase today - small amounts of sabana and starhill.
may buy some suntec and aimsampi later on.
appreciate any comment!
Singapore REITS, S-REITS
Singapore REITS, S-REITS
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Sep 10 2013, 11:27 AM
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this thread seems ultra quiet!
rm strengthend a bit today. made my maiden purchase today - small amounts of sabana and starhill. may buy some suntec and aimsampi later on. appreciate any comment! |
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Sep 10 2013, 02:29 PM
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Sep 10 2013, 01:42 PM) For what its worth, Sabana has yet to renew over 40% of its leases set to expire in NOv. That is a major concern. given that it's industrial, should not be too bad. industrial rentals on the island are still very strong, i believe, unlike here! |
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Sep 10 2013, 02:30 PM
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Sep 10 2013, 02:35 PM
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Sep 10 2013, 05:23 PM
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Sep 10 2013, 06:22 PM
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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Sep 10 2013, 05:29 PM) heheh - sorry bro. okie okie...i didnt buy based on price expectations, i bought based on the expected DY% based on $0.43 i'm a simpleton when buying REITs - just based on NAPS vs Price, D/E (or gearing) and DY%. will watch closely tmrw... i like to think the rupiah-sgd isn't going to get any worse! |
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Sep 10 2013, 11:58 PM
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QUOTE(gark @ Sep 10 2013, 11:24 PM) Lippomalls earn in rupiah, but have to pay out in sgd. Exchange rate matters. Also thier loan us in sgd while thier assets us in rp. A devaluation means thier assets is worth less in sgd. that wud be my take too.i'm taking the position that the rupiah and the reit price in sgd has seen its worst, can't get worse. if the rupiah recovers like the indian rupee, the future div payout in sgd wud improve, thus giving a better yield in future (for my price) than what it is now. or reit price moves back up. correct ar? This post has been edited by AVFAN: Sep 11 2013, 12:05 AM |
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Sep 11 2013, 10:15 AM
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Sep 11 2013, 10:06 AM) AV ya, i wud be less concerned if it's rm in rm reit.When investing in REITs, best not to expect too much price increase gains. Just take that if it happens as bonus. Yield is the name of the game was just checking if there are strong views on this particular reit revenues in rupiah. from the recent movement, rupiah seems to have stablized, improving, which is better news than the other way round! anyway, picked up a bit of lippo just now. |
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Sep 16 2013, 06:38 PM
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nice to see some sg reits gaining 2-3% today!
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Oct 23 2013, 04:12 PM
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QUOTE(elea88 @ Oct 18 2013, 07:35 AM) http://mystocksinvesting.com/singapore-sto...nical-analysis/ lippo still same 44-45, looks very stable.Lippo Mall on downtrend... and distribution yield follow Reduce. I am thinking of collecting some at this point SGD0.445. Any comments for discussion? added a bit of capitamall today, after recommendation by cimb. exch rate is not too bad at this time. after a couple of months, very pleased with my earlier purchases of starhill, aimsampi and suntec. |
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Nov 7 2013, 01:35 PM
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QUOTE(elea88 @ Nov 6 2013, 12:11 PM) i thinking of buying ascendasindreit and soilbuildbizreit today... i have not looked at ascenda much.still analysing. ascendasindreit is cum div... for industrial, why not consider aimsampi? low gearing, higher div. price today is better than last week by a few cents. i got a bit more suntec today at 1.65. looking at aim and lippo now. will add bit by bit slowly. since myreits are like... dead! i do not know if there's any net big diff with actual sgd acc or via local banks trust acc. i use cimb, so far, so good. charges, fx, look ok to me. just got my first div. they stay in the sgd trust acc, i use them to buy new units, easy enough. one thing, just me - i plan not to touch them for a long time. "savings" in sgd should beat the rm in the mid-long term. This post has been edited by AVFAN: Nov 7 2013, 01:39 PM |
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QUOTE(altung @ Nov 7 2013, 04:58 PM) ^thank you check these sites, u can analyze...http://mystocksinvesting.com/singapore-rei...end-investment/ http://reitdata.com/ http://www.sgx.com/wps/portal/sgxweb/home/...in_one/company/ i have lippo, suntec, capitamall, sabana, aimpsami and starhill global. i look for a balanced mix of div yield, low gearing and liquidity. other than sabana, all have cap gains and dividends, performace better than myreits so far... u won't find the perfect one(s) - u just need to decide which approach. all the best! |
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QUOTE(apagranpa10 @ Dec 9 2013, 01:14 PM) just picked up a bit more, looks ok to me buy at this price and yield.sgreits all coming under pressure as rates in usa poised to go up. myreits same but i prefer to accumulate more on sg side. This post has been edited by AVFAN: Dec 9 2013, 02:01 PM |
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Dec 24 2013, 10:25 AM
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sg reit prices seem to be stabilized...
but rm is now 2.60/sgd... |
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Dec 30 2013, 02:34 PM
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QUOTE(elea88 @ Dec 30 2013, 01:06 PM) yes, if TT transfer today is 2.63... any idea if it will go back to 2.58? can't be 2.63 that high... max maybe 2.61 today.my SG ac no more money 2 buy anything... Next dividends ex dates will be in January 2014 sgd has been moving between 2.55 to 2.60 in the last year. but it looks like staying in the higher end more than not. personally, i see no hope in rm strengthening, only down. which is the main reason i bought into sgreits with rm starting a year ago or so. use the sgd div to buy more sg reits, not convert back to rm. i am hopeful it'll turn out much better in 5 yrs time compared to buying myreits in rm. This post has been edited by AVFAN: Dec 30 2013, 02:35 PM |
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QUOTE(wjchay @ Jan 29 2014, 10:49 AM) Hi, yes, i use cimbitrade. take note the info u see online is 10min lag unless u subscribe n pay for a real time service.I have the same thinking, that I should start buying SREIT to hedge against the falling MYR. Can you please share the tools and experience? Do you use CIMB iTrade? I do have access to Singapore bourse now with iTrade but not quite sure of things like: 1. tax? 2. forex rate? 3. broker fees, etc.? 4. how to instruct dividends to be deposited into a SGD trust account? 5. how to instruct dividends to be used to buy more REITS? Thanks in advance. 1. tax... sgd div are tax free 2. forex... at itrade, check under reports, client summary at the end of the day of purchase, u see the indicative exchange rate. the final one used is what it is on settlement day. so, need to estimate rm to be deposited for payment. 3. not sure if for all, but is 0.42% <rm100k, 0.275% >rm100k, min sgd25. plus some other minor misc fees. u can ask broker to furnish u the table. 4-5. div is auto deposited into the sgd trust account, stay in sgd, no interest gained. if there is sgd, at next purchase, make sure u indicate settlement in sgd - what is there will be used first, balance will be taken from your rm account (assuming u have deposited). if u want sgd in trust acc to be converted to rm and return to yr rm account, just call yr assigned broker. |
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QUOTE(wjchay @ Feb 6 2014, 03:31 PM) Hi AVFAN, if dow n nikkei keeps holding strong, no chance for sgx to correct.Thanks for the info. I am waiting for at least a major correction in SG before going into this. At the going rate, MYR-SGD forex is not favorable. us bond yields are >2.7%, unlikely sg reit prices will gain quickly. maybe more of an exchange rate issue at this time. rm is getting more n more unfavorable by the week! i bot some 2 weeks ago at 2.625, today probably 2.63x. just read cimb report sg industrial activity picked up in jan, might be time to examine aimsampi and even sabana. QUOTE Ringgit falls to fresh record low of RM2.624 against Singapore dollar February 07, 2014 The Malaysian ringgit hit a fresh record low against the Singapore dollar this week as several regional currencies continue to stay weak, which analysts attributed to capital outflows from emerging markets to developed markets. The Straits Times reported that just three days after softening to an all-time low of RM2.622 against the Singdollar last Thursday, the ringgit fell further to RM2.624 at the start of this week. It was hovering around RM2.6207 yesterday, said the republic's authoritative newspaper. The ringgit's persistent weakness was not so much due to the Singdollar gaining strength, but rather a massive outflow of capital from the emerging markets back to developed markets, experts told broadsheet. "Overall, in terms of fiscal and financial strength, (Singapore) is perceived to be stronger, so our currency has held up better and it looks as if the ringgit has been weakening against the Singdollar," Fundsupermart general manager Wong Sui Jau was quoted as saying. Oanda currency analyst Wu Mingze agreed, telling The Straits Times: "In terms of fundamentals, Malaysia is not looking great, but it's not that bad either compared to Thailand, the Philippines, or Vietnam." http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/busines...ingapore-dollar |
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