Hi guys,

I know its another pls help me decide kind of topic. But I'm lookin to buy a new car and would like sifus here opinions.
Currently i'm willing to pay up till RM1k for monthly..but I am as well considering the maintenance issues and fuel consumption, etc.

Do note, in terms of investment in property and future, I am quite secured. Thus my priority is my car as my working place is about 30km from my office(damansara) and I use the MEX highway a lot.

My top choices now are
1. Ford Fiesta XTR
2. Ford Ranger
3. Kia Forte 1.6 SX or 2.0
4. Hyundai Elantra
5. Honda City

Please advise and I'm open to any other suggestions or comments.
In addition, my current car the Naza Suria is having high mileage and in order to save it, the new car will by my daily driver and my Naza Suria will b used for driving around in short distances.


Thanks guys! Hope ppl can help me out

Fiesta or elantra. Forte is downright ugly and buying a city will get you flamed in this forum.

Hi Stix,

Thanks for the reply...currently i got a deal for the 1.6 SX with touch screen GPS headunit and leather seats as an upgrade, plus the Fiesta XTR also had a good deal from salesman..

However, after reading forums and the Ford page on fb, the Fiesta had some gear issues due to the nature of the dual clutch and ppl were complaining about the after service at Ford.

Nonetheless, I do love the Fiesta bcuz of the handling and features offered. I'm just worried my car is gonna b in the workshop a lot, bcuz this future car would b really important for my daily use.

Hopefully anyone using Fiesta or other Ford models can help here too

Cruze,insight,Prius c,inspira

watsup rudyz07;
hmm, another tempting thread

financially, being able to fork out rm1k/mth is one thing, but what about your :
1) downpayment?
2) annual maintenance/allowance?
and have u test driven the cars mentioned?

at the end of the day, after all the factors taken into account,
it's your car, your choice, be proud, good luck!

Honda City latest spec.

not that expensive considering ur budget

You didnt mention family so im not sure if you would want a family car? Also we dont know your time frame for getting a new car.

Looks are subjective and the fact that uve shortlisted the above would mean ure fine with the looks. So its kinda pointless to be talking bout design. So your criterias would be:

1) Price
2) Specs
3) Safety
4) Warranty
5) After sales service
6) Maintenance costs
7) Fuel consumption

You wont find any car which satisfies all of the above. So based on your list of cars above only, the best choice would be the Forte or Elantra. I think spec wise, the Forte 2.0L comes out tops. Its also got the best warranty terms of the lot (with the City). Since u drive alot, getting a car with unlimited mileage would be a plus point. The Elantra 1.8L is good but personally i think its too pricy (RM18K more than Forte 2.0). Also, Kia is currently offering up to RM2K discount for the Forte to push off stocks before the arrival of the new K3. Kia has also improved alot in the after sales service. Ive serviced a Kia and Toyota for the past 7 years so im well aware of the difference in standards which gave me the confidence to go for the 2nd Kia this year. Not sure about Hyundai SD though. Fuel consumption wise, i dont think ull get the best mileage from a Korean. The Japs are still ahead in this aspect. But Korean engines are more powerful although less refined but thats ok i guess.

As for the Fiesta, the Hatchback is really cramped in the rear. U might consider the Sedan but in my personal opinion its ugly at the rear (must be a reason why the sedan sales are really poor compared to the hatch). Specs wise, both are good but as you say some cars are still facing issues with the dual clutch. The new Ranger is also quite well spec'd and imho a better choice compared to the Hilux.

But i would think the upcoming Ford Focus would be a good option if you dont mind paying more for it. Specs are top class with a few luxury inclusions.

But you need to test drive all to get a feel and better understanding of the vehicle. And dont just test once or twice. Go a few times and choose different showrooms which have different routes. Combine highway, bad roads, with a full load, without passengers, etc. Take your time to evaluate. Never rush into anything as it might mean missing out on an important criteria.

Inspira.

Go and test drive it.

Also you need to consider your body size. Is Ford Fiesta a small size car? That will make you not comfortable with big body.

Personally, I think the FC is very important especially you travel a lot.

If you will have to always stuck in the jam (city drive), Forte will only can do 9-10litre/100km. I think Elantra is slightly better for city drive.

But if you always can speeding, Elantra is good FC. Forte not bad.

I will say Inspira 2.0P is one of the best choice out there. No Preve please.

You might want to consider new Focus too.

Why not Preve? It has the best specs and quite a powerful engine for the turbo. Any problems with it?

I'm also in the same situation as TS.. my current decision leaning more towards the new 2012 City..

Hi guys,

I'm really appreciating the replies and your opinions. No offence to the national brands, but i'm not intending to buy a P1 or P2.

To answer some of your questions, I'm working in the advertising/industry whereby we work a lot of late hours like till 12am, 5am oso got...thus I can get let's say around RM300-RM1k a month just on overtime plus allowances.

I'm also a fresh grad but my pay is considered good already for a fresh grad plus I'm really grateful that my parents have bought me a 2-storey terrace house in Ampang..thus in terms of property investment, i'm covered. Also I don't waste my disposable income on drinking, shopping, etc...I'm a very simple person that always go value for money. I'm not buying a nice car bcuz to show off but it's bcuz of my job as we have to travel a lot like meeting clients, go to photoshoot, etc.

I just need a car that is fast, good build quality(no rattling noise when langgar roadbump, minor potholes), good resale value so I can sell in 4-5 years time for bigger car. I do understand that Kia and Ford aftersales can improve after the Forte and Fiesta, thus I'm optimistic. This future car is really important to my job.

I test driven both and Inspira fares much better. Although Inspira is non-turbo car, it still have decent power and build quality.

Then you can remove Forte. I owned for 1 month car but hear irritating rattling noise from dashboard and very difficult to fix unless take out the dashboard. Not sure about others.

Daily working car, B segment car should be enuff. Economical. 30km not quite a long distance, no need bigger car. - option 1 and 5
Option 5

No offense to you, and your preference, but seriously, go and test drive an inspira.

Sure, it has a proton badge to it, but you want advice, right? Just test drive it, no harm done.

There are tons of people who changed from non-proton cars to inspira after they test drove it. Do you think people who bought a 90k inspira has no money to buy non-proton cars? Get out of the old mentality.

I do agree with cokelatpanda...B segment might be enuf as the Forte and Elantra are under C segment(do correct me if i'm wrong) bcuz I'm still young and not planning on getting married/have a family in a long time.

maybe narrowing it down now to Ford Fiesta XTR, Honda City, and maybe the Forte too bcuz I'm gettin a good offer with the GPS touch screen and leather seats

I'm aware as well that the new Forte(K3) is coming out soon..but it will probably reach our shores by end of next year or 2014..thus, buying Forte now should be ok.

I just need a car soon, my Naza Suria ady making noise..really kesian her, hehe

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Added on September 5, 2012, 11:20 amHi Xeda,

I appreciate your opinion and thanks for the idea, will try and get an Inspira test drive this weekend. How's the build quality and can add touch screen GPS? GPS important for me as I'm travelling a lot to places I'm not familiar to during tv commercial shoots, etc...

Furthermore, I want it built-in to the car so it's much safer..i think, please do advise

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Added on September 5, 2012, 11:23 amHi Xeda,

I appreciate your opinion and thanks for the idea, will try and get an Inspira test drive this weekend. How's the build quality and can add touch screen GPS? GPS important for me as I'm travelling a lot to places I'm not familiar to during tv commercial shoots, etc...

Furthermore, I want it built-in to the car so it's much safer..i think, please do advise

This post has been edited by RudyZ07: Sep 5 2012, 11:23 AM

New Inspira comes with touch screen GPS. Though I don't like looking at a huge 2-din screen at my dashboard, but that's my own preferences.

I was in the same place as you were last time, I was considering a few cars to choose -:

a) Honda City
b) Honda Civic
c) Ford Fiesta
d) Kia Forte
e) Kia Forte Koup
f) Proton Inspira

I test drove all of it, except for the fiesta. Honda City, was just absurdly underpowered to me, and I felt like driving my Gen 2 while I was test driving Honda City. Funnily enough, the sales person showed me her "Honda City Selling Booklet", and it was written there that the target market for Honda City is young people driving a proton that's upgrading their car. I laughed in my head thinking "This is just the same as my proton, what upgrade?" It was severely underpowered, felt empty and cheap. Though, this is my own opinion, I might have a high standard for a car.

Honda Civic, I fell in love with it, every single part of it, but too bad, the old gen Civic was no longer available, and maintenance on a Civic would be a killer too.

Ford Fiesta, was too small for me. I love the car, but the size was just....and the design is a little bit too girly for me.

Kia Forte - hated the absorbers and the suspension settings. It was too soft. Apart from that, it was good too. But, it lacks the low-end acceleration, and felt a bit slow and sluggish. The evil twin brother Koup, was just, just awesome. Was about to get the Koup, but a 2 door car, is not really that practical.

Inspira - This will be a biased review, as it is my preference and I love the inspira.

It's a 10 sec car. With a huge-ass body like that, it can go from 0-100 in 10 sec. So, it's fast. Went for a test drive, the sales person sitting next to me kept telling me to floor the pedal. Take corners without braking, go high speed in corners and trust the car.

I did. And the car could turn corners at 80-100 km/h, easily. If you want a civilized car, that could give you a very comfortable ride cruising at around 100~120km/h, you'll fall asleep driving the inspira. No kidding, I travel from JB-KL-JB every month, and I have always find myself dozing off cuz it's too comfortable. You want a car that can bring the "dark" side out of you.....well, just rev it up to 4k RPM, and you'll fly. 200km/h, easily achievable. Though, take note that the stock tyre's maximum speed is only 210km/h, any faster, you'll probably burst it (Conti CC5 tyre, comfort tyre, not for hardcore driving).

A fair bit of a warning here, if you drive like a madman, Inspira will drink your fuel like an alcoholic. Drive it normally, the FC is average. If you want a car that does 700km per tank, get a myvi or kancil, not an Inspira.

Maintenance, around 200 per servicing if you use semi, even 5k km. Use full syn, around 300 per servicing every 10k km. Spare parts are easily available as there are an abundance of Inspira/Lancer on the road.

But at the end of the day, test drive, all your car choices. People can only tell you so much based on their experience. I went on my car hunt and was dead set on getting a Civic/Koup, I was even willing to go all over Malaysia looking for a Civic that would be available, but that was befoe I test drove Inspira. Inspira was the last car I test drove (since my parents told me to give it a shot), so I did, and I couldn't be bothered with Civic/Koup anymore.

Test drive the cars yourself.

If you're looking to travel from home to office, office to multiple event places (which most advertising ppl does)... I think the Fiesta HB would suit you great! Easy to find parking, good fuel consumption when u r stuck in the jam in damansara during rush hours. Do note the cramp space available at the back... only good for 2 person travelling... 4 person for short distance only. Eg: lunch time.

Just my 2 cents

Hi guys,

Thanks again for the replies. Fiesta would be useful as it's nimble and agile(really my style of driving), does not have to be super fast just agile and balanced.

But now Xeda is really giving me a thought as the Inspira is quite worth it. with the amount of features and space.

yup. i agree inspira is actually quite a good car. comfortable.

no hybrid cars a? say fuel is a concern

Can i ask why? It is not good?

Features wise the Preve would be a much better choice. Plus Stability Control is a very important safety feature regardless of your driving speed.

being the budget is 100k...i would go for inspira instead of preve as well
i will only choose preve is budget is lower and tight
choose inspira purely becuz of the engine and gearbox being mitsu
and the fact that the engine uses timing chain and its a 2.0L....2.0L will always be a 2.0L, nothing can replace that

well since design is subjective, i'd say quality wise will make one think thrice and im speaking of proton in general. but i guess what you pay is what you get.

Fiesta is a good car, from what I have heard and from reading up on other people's experience, but it was just too small for me. BUT, it's true, finding parking with my Inspira is a pain in the ass, especially if you're in a shopping mall.

Nimble and agile, come to the Inspira club's TT every friday, and we'll teach you the definition of nimble and agile. You'll be amazed at what these people do to their Inspira and how they drive it.

I swear to god, I thought I was a crazy driver, zig zagging all over the place, but these people....they hit 140 km/h on normal city roads. No shit.

On paper and specs, Preve is a better choice, if you're only looking at the specs, not the design or the fit and finishing. I test drove Preve, it drives the same, if not, better than the Inspira. But I don't like the design. It's just fugly to me.

I wonder why u say a 2.0L engine will always be that and nothing can replace that? U mean performance? Right now, the trend with most manufacturers is to go small yet increase power and output thru turbo's.

From what I understand, go to Inspira TT your wallet will koyak also

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Added on September 5, 2012, 12:16 pmMost people are concerned with reliability. Preve is good on paper, but reliability-wise, sorry my vote goes to Inspira as well.

This post has been edited by dares: Sep 5 2012, 12:16 PM

theres no replacement for displacement...N/A is still the best
turbo(small) just increase the torque but for horsepower not really
there are big turbo that will increase the HP but thn turbo lag
so...getting the 2.0L is still the best and the fact that its a mitsu engine(more advanced) and using timing chain is enough to convince me to take it if i have the budget

This post has been edited by MR_alien: Sep 5 2012, 12:18 PM

Yes. Cant really expect too much when ure only paying RM 72K+ (OTR). But its power output for the Turbo version is quite good. 138Hp (5,000RPM) and 205 Nm torque (from 2,000RPM).

Hahaha, I went to Inspira TT, and my wallet didn't koyak. You need strong anti-body to resist all sorts of poison there. They'll give you craps from adding a tiny tweeter to your car to shits like remapping your car's ECU to adjustable suspensions and bodykits.

It's like a car's accessory shop.

Oh yeah, TS, if you want to test drive and see the full potential of an Inspira, go to their TT, every Friday, at 32 square PJ. Tons of people willing to show you what an Inspira can do. Just.....well, make sure you're brave and don't piss your pants when they bring you around test-driving their Inspiras.

Many of the current Vios also have issues with rattling dashboards. But there are many without any problems as well. Same goes for Forte or any other car for that matter. We can't generalise based on a few bad apples rite?

lmfao. should've seen my post in kopitiam, how those pansies defended the slow turbo. 'meant for family la, soft turbo la, etc etc.'

Preve is a good car, comes with a lot of gadgets and more safety features!

But you know lah, Proton quality. The way they asssemble the car do cincai cincai only. Since the last 12 years, I already bought 3 Proton. The latest one Exora bold CFE. First six month own a new Proton really need to to go SC and ask them fix this and that. After all the problem fix, then no need worry already.
If you got no time, then avoid Proton.

Between Inspira and Preve

Driving pleasure - Inspira
Reliability - Inspira
Gadget - Preve
Safety - Preve
Price wise - Preve
Handling - both like the same, or maybe the inspira slightly better. Preve is quite high
Modability - Inspira

It is a fact that it is a soft turbo. So set your expectation right, mr clarkson.

A good read on the Hyundai Elantra:

http://www.cbt.com.my/2012/09/05/hyundai-e...-md-test-drive/

http://www.cbt.com.my/2012/07/09/hyundai-e...with-substance/

If money not a factor i.e. <100k, inspira vs. preve, I vote for inspira. In fact, you can get a 1-year old for RM73k+, still got another 4 years warranty. Inspira fit & finish way better. Dashboard, inside door panels, knobs, buttons all feel more solid and gives you the feeling that they can last the test of time. Proven mitsu NA engine also easier to maintain in the long run. Preve IMHO, with all its gadgets, sounds good on paper only.

If I have a choice for NA and Turbo, I will definitely go for Turbo without considering too much.
Because I appreciate higher torque than higher HP.

Normally higher HP only provides better power during high RPM and better top speed where we are seldom reach or need it in daily usage.
However, significant low end torque provided by Turbo is very useful during overtaking, hill road and city driving. You will addicted with a turbo car with plenty of torque for you to zig zag in the city or highway overtaking without shifting down your gear.
Moreover, turbo car serves you maximum of torque from as low as 1.xxk RPM to 4.xxk RPM, very wide range of torque spreaded compared to NA car

Hi guys,

Ok now I'm contemplating Fiesta XTR, Forte and Inspira

really guys, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE FEEDBACKS! in advertising, we really appreciate comments and consumer input, so i sincerely appreciate your comments.

I think xeda's advise to test drive is very legitimate. When looking at the brochures, i felt preve was better. But after sitting in and test drive, my perception totally changed, inspira wins hands down, even without a turbocharged engine. For fords, test drive and have a feel at its dual-clutch. I've driven the s-max and didn't came out impressed, especially at crawling and lower speeds. Inspira's CVT is very nice, maybe not as good as Audi's, but that's erm... not apple to apple

have to see what turbo also
in preve is just a small/soft turbo that boost the torque to equivalent of 2.0L car
and that only boost the torque
being said in this car, inspira happens to be a 2.0L car
so in short, why not have both hp and torque of a 2.0L car
and from my view, inspira is using mivec engine(more advance) and using timing chain(less maintainance, just need to change fan belt)
and for the gearbox, preve's CVT is almost at the limit of the torque already...can't mod performance
but inspira's mitsu CVT still hv quite alot of space for performance mod
not to say turbo car is bad, its good and addictive but in this case, inspira win it all

But isnt the Inspira 2.0 torque of 197Nm only available at 4,250 RPM as compared to the Preve Turbo torque of 205Nm available from 2,000 RPM?

don't just look at the spec sheets.

go try the Preve and you will notice there is nothing great about it.

for me, the sluggishness of taking off from stationary is just a total turn-off.

Yes but thats the Turbo lag rite?

A good read for the Preve:

http://paultan.org/2012/05/15/driven-proto...-manual-tested/

Turbo lag or whatsoever, nothing draws a clearer picture than test driving itself.
if you happen to own a proton previously, test driving it will impress you.
but if you don't, believe me you aren't gonna be impressed.

No offense to other Preve buyers, just voicing out my opinion from the test drive.

Not turbo lag. Try Exora bold with same engine. Pickup is way better than early batch Preve CFE.

It just that Preve ecu to be tune like that to comply with global emission rating. Later batch have great pickup due to user complaint.

To the TS, we would be able to assist you better if you can tell us your preference on the followings:

Usage: (City drive / long distance highway)
Car size: (Bigger / smaller)
Boot: (required / not required)
Fuel Consumption: (must be good / don't really care)
Resale value: (must be good / don't really care)
Interior quality: (must feel premium / don't really care)
Handling: (must be good / don't really care)
Safety features: (more is better / don't really care)
Goodies: (more is better / don't really care)

Safety features = Airbags, VSC
Goodies = Light & rain sensors, auto cruise, auto aircond, keyless entry and start.



This post has been edited by alg7_munif: Sep 5 2012, 03:25 PM

Hi munif,

Ok, true..I have mentioned earlier some of the details but I'll follow your template as it seems more clearer and they are as per below:

Usage: Mostly highway driving from Cyberjaya to Damansara
Car Size: Does not matter but Fiesta is the smallest I'll go
Boot: Medium size is fine..as long bigger than my Naza Suria
FC: must be good
Resale value: important but do understand brands like Ford and Kia are picking up
Interior quality: must be solidly built and feel premium
Handling: must be good, I don't like wobbly drive..like when i tested my friend's Vios(all over the place)

Safety Features: important, bcuz long distance driving and when raining.
Goodies: must have GPS touch screen, leather seats

GUYS ALSO, I do appreciate the enthusiasm but NO NEED to argue/debate about torque,turbo lag, etc...i understand you guys are passionate but in the end, we are all here to just share thoughts on what is worth our money and which car to get..not to just help me but also OTHERS that are thinking of buying a new car.

regards,

Rudy Z

This post has been edited by RudyZ07: Sep 5 2012, 03:23 PM

since inspira no turbo...the 4250RPM is actually maximum, not start from
where as the preve is start from 2000 to maximum 4000
meaning inspira can access the 197Nm from start till 4250RPM whereas the 205Nm of preve only start @ 2000RPM
this is call turbo lag but this is consider mini lag already compare to those big turbo

I can give you 6 options. The car that doesn't fit your requirement from my options is marked with red in your post above. I think you should consider Forte since it fits most of your requirement.

My ranking based on the above criteria would be:

Usage: (City drive / long distance highway)
Swift;Fiesta;City;Preve;Forte;Inspira

Car size: (Bigger / smaller)
Inspira;Preve;Forte;City;Fiesta;Swift

Boot: (required / not required)
Preve;Forte;Inspira;City;Fiesta;Swift

Fuel Consumption: (must be good / don't really care)
Fiesta;City;Swift;Preve;Inspira;Forte

Resale value: (must be good / don't really care)
City;Swift;Fiesta;Inspira;Forte;Preve (My guess only)

Interior quality: (must feel premium / don't really care)
Forte;City;Preve;Fiesta;Swift;Inspira

Handling: (must be good / don't really care)
Swift;Fiesta;Inspira;Preve;City;Forte (all are quite good actually)

Safety features: (more is better / don't really care)
Fiesta;Forte;Preve;City;Inspira;Swift

Goodies: (more is better / don't really care)
Forte;Preve;Fiesta;Inspira;Swift;City

This post has been edited by alg7_munif: Sep 5 2012, 03:42 PM

Err..i dont think thats quite right. Correct me if im wrong but what it means is that the Inspira's max torque of 197Nm is only achieved at 4,250 RPM. Below that RPM, you dont get all 197Nm of torque available. The 197Nm of torque is not available from start. Thats why u have the torque curve.

This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Sep 5 2012, 03:50 PM

Forte 2.0L fuel consumption quite bad? Care to provide some figures?

TS, if ur not a family man, just go for the Fiesta XTR....

Small car but big fun... Very good handling and ride comfort...

Best in class FC + superb safety specs....

6 Airbags, ESP, etc.....

About the gearbox, it's normal for the Getrag sourced Dual clutch transmission...

Some ppl are not used to it.... That grinding sound happens when the clucth actuator mechanism working...

also it is not jerky as VW's DSG on slow traffic, ie. crawling...

But VW's DSG shift faster altough Fiesta itself is not a slouch...

And it's handling is just awesome....

This is my suggestion....

For me... i have same dillemma like you too. But in the end i choose PC after test drive tons of cars.

With your budget. You can get more than 10 types of car and depends what you want and need in the end. I recommend test drive all the car and choose one which fits u best.

In my opinion, if you can wait that is,, Prius C is a good choice as 100% not made in Malaysia and rank high in safety feature as one of the VSC with 7 Airbag. Credit also go to Elantra for this tech. google it up and u see how safe it is with VSC system in place.

Not only that PC is the best in MPG as it can go 51 MPG in city driving as you drive in city. Test drive it first. I can safety say its more powerful than Vios and good at FC + safety feature.

Downside its small, so if you use it for second car and you dont mind small car. I think its a good car to drive around town as easy to park as well.

But then it all down to your preference. Ford Fiesta is not bad as well . With Kia K3 arriving soon. If you can wait , maybe test drive it and maybe you like it more. ^^ .

http://www.fuelly.com/driver/dericlee76/forte
http://www.fuelly.com/driver/veryfastdude/forte
http://www.fuelly.com/driver/chk4122/forte
http://www.fuelly.com/driver/ototo/forte
http://www.fuelly.com/driver/kura2/forte

This post has been edited by alg7_munif: Sep 5 2012, 04:02 PM

Like the dude said, if you're basing it on your requirenemnts, then Forte would be the one that fits most of it. Forte's interior is just awesome, even more if you look at the Koup.

I wouldn't bother looking at FC too much if I were you, I've driven 1.6, 1.8, and 2.0 cars, and their FC are very similar. It's highly dependant on how you drive. But, if you are very FC conscious, then you gotta get a small, economical car (I'm talking about kancil, here). That's the only way.

I am willing to bet with you that if you take all the 6 cars above, and drive them constantly at 110km/h, the FC would be about the same. So, technically, a car doesn't make much difference in FC, your driving style does. Even if you take all 6 cars and drive in stop and go traffic, all the time, if you rev all the 6 cars at an average rev of 3k rpm, in stop and go traffic, I'm willing to bet with you the FC would be similar too. Wanna save fuel? Don't hit the pedal so much, simple as that.

But, don't ever, ever, buy a car without test driving it first.

Pick a bunch of car, test drive it, and then decide.

Since you are doing a lot of highway driving, FC won't be as bad as city driving for Forte & Inspira.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7300


See this for VSC.. Elantra and PC has it as well ^^ . If you off u can do like in the video in the link ^^

if you are looking for a car with no rattling car it would be a little be hard i would say...once i went to an accessories shop the shop owner told me even a bmw,merc conti car came to his shop to solve rattling sound...dont be to choosy..u can solve that problem quite easy..just my 2cent

Elantra is slightly different. Its a VSM system which incorporates a steering control system in addition to the normal ESP/VSC.

Prius C is not that small, actually it is quite spacious compared to Swift and even the Fiesta, the boot is also quite big considering it is a hatchback.

Safety features is top notch, handling wise is ok but still not as good as Fiesta and Swift, comparable to Forte. Fuel consumption is great but the difference in highway driving is not really mind blowing. Prius C's superior FC is really a big advantage in the city stop and go traffic where normal car just burns fuel without making any progress, especially the bigger engined cars.

This post has been edited by alg7_munif: Sep 5 2012, 04:14 PM

i think they solved that problem already in a new batch of cars...prove is my fathers car....felt like riding an aeroplane vroom sana vroom sini

Perhaps so, as the preve I tested was a 1st batch. In spite of what the paper-specs say, Inspira felt more responsive and torquey as lower revs compared to Preve. Remember that Mitsu gave proton a detuned lancer engine (lower hp), 140+ vs. 156. Maybe due to that, inspira gets a flatter torque curve as a trade-off. I'm just speculating. This better ask owners. Also note, the k3 is on the horizon, so the forte's gonna be a "previous-gen" car soon. Fiesta facelift also in the works. But I don't hear any "lancer" replacement coming very soon.

There's already news about a new lancer coming. Just google it.

About the detuned lancer part, yeah, Inspira is tuned to produce less power than the lancer, though they're using the exact same engine and transmission.

Easily solved, just need to remap the Inspira.

Thanks for the info bro. If can post link, all the better.

http://www.cbt.com.my/2012/08/27/mitsubish...lancer-in-2014/

Nah. 2014 Lancer. Didn't wanna post it cuz thread is not talking about new gen lancer.

Wah thanks. Next gen smaller? Still no spyshot. Like this i think earliest can reach our shore probably 2015-16. Still long time to go, so inspira will still look 'new'. K3 looks like a finished product and ready to launch. Ok ok we stop going off topic.

Forte K3 releasing in Korea around end of year or by early next year according to my uncle working in Seoul.

Thus, as usual..would be reaching our shores by end of 2013 or 2014...since i urgently need a new car by this month, Forte still a viable option. but nonetheless, will test drive the inspira and fiesta this saturday.

The Forte, my colleague got one and drove around just now during lunch...like the feeling of the interior for its price and the updated GPS touch screen, with the free bodykit some more..looks like an impressive deal

haish, maybe it's just bad timing for me to buy a new car..if buy forte now, 2014 new model comes out here..if i wana sell in 4-5 years, i wonder what's the value to trade-in..if around 40k still acceptable, but got feeling around 20k..can anyone predict? i doubt but pls do if u know some info

why not? its the best car in rm70000!!!

I think forte 2.0 FC not bad compared to my vios.
I personally own a forte2.0 and my FC is around 7.3l/100km.
Around 80% hiway and 20% city.
Rm 50 Ron95 can go for 330 - 350km.
My ex car vios rm50 can go for around 380km.

I think not bad rite

Btw, I think safety features in forte 2.0 is the best among all the cars that u mentioned rite
Pls correct me if I m wrong.

you car FC is same like 1.3 myvi.

And 1.2 Savvy.

Don't doubts, it is true
But mine is 80% hiway n 20% city wo...
What about yrs daily routes?

i think its reasonable...becuz higher displacement car actually save fuel on long distance travel compare to a 1-1.3L car

i always tot 2 liter car is 10km/liter

u seems to be a gentle driver

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Added on September 5, 2012, 9:34 pmmy family 2 liter car is at best 13km/liter on highway.

or 10km/liter ( when its really really fun )

This post has been edited by stinger82: Sep 5 2012, 09:34 PM

This is what I did with my 2.5L BMW, 90% highway at 110-120kmh.


Big engined car usually has no problem cruising at highway speed, only when there is a traffic jam or stop and go traffic the fuel consumption will fall off the cliff. Prius C on the other hand can get minimum 17 km/l almost everytime regardless how you drive.Normally it hovers around 19-21 km/l.

not really, sometime rev until redline at 2nd n 3rd gear

elantra... car of the year

Haha......4-5 years later nobody can predict lah....but maybe base on data below...u can predict by yourself...


2011 model

model MV Current Selling Price
naza Forte 1.6sx - 71k 85.8k
Altis 1.6 - 90k 106.6k
Civic 1.8 S-L - 99k 116k
Mazda 3 SDN - 83k 101.3k

City S - 68k 86k
Vios G - 74k 87.3k or 89.6k
Ford Fiesta 1.6 Sdn - 64k 83.3k


All MV is from Allianz insurance

http://www.autoclaims.com.my/agv1/home.php

Yaya agree with this !! ^^ Just booked my Prius C !!

Congrats yzlum! Hope you'll enjoy ur new car

Haha thanks thanks.. but still gotta wait super long.. till next year feb only can receive car lol..

Always use L/100km for any discussions regarding fuel consumption. Its really pointless using money.

Fuel consumption is really more influenced by the way you drive. You can have the best power to weight ratio and still rake up high fuel bills just by driving un-economically. Thats why i think this discussion on fuel consumption is actually quite redundant.

There are some Kia Optima K5 owners which have achieved a range of 905km with 63L of fuel driving at 110kmph on 100% highway. That's about 7L/100km which is quite good since the K5 is a heavy car and considered underpowered. But there are others who get far less economical readings.

On my previous Vios, ive achieved 6.7L/100km on 100% highway at about 120kmph and 7.5L/100km in 100% city driving. But ive also obtained far less economical readings during hard driving.

This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Sep 6 2012, 08:56 AM

Good morning my fellow helpful forumers,

I met up with a friend yesterday who studied automotive engineering and worked with Mazda, VW, Honda and Toyota. He was giving me a suggestion of getting a pre-reg Polo Sport for under 100k..I'm willing to fork out RM10k downpayment, so my loan for the Polo would probably b around 80-90k..but interest rate could be from 2.5% to 3.5%..

He still has friends at VW and knows a few of the sales ppl there too..currently scouting for the Polo Sport for me..also he was sayin 'If you get a pre-reg Polo S, in few years time if you want to change to a Golf, it's easier to trade in since your a VW customer already'

Anyways, what do you guys think?

Polo sport, you mean polo tsi ka. Do you think you prepared to bela a conti. If yes, why not, for a nice ride.

yea, the Polo 1.2 TSi, depends if my friend can scout for me a pre-reg one..he sed should be around RM90k..so if i put 10k downpayment, so loan around 80k, just that the interest rate would b higher since its pre-reg unit

Dont forget that a Conti is a totally different ballgame. Its not just the purchase price which you need to take into consideration.

Listen to Cokelat. There's a lot of other things to consider when buying a car instead of just the car's price.

Main concern would be maintenance. Cost to service, cost to replace wear and tear part, cost to fix something in case you get into an accident, etc.

Conti maintenance will not be cheap. I don't think you can afford it, or more accurately, I don't think you would want to afford it.

That's very true, really appreciate you guys pointing out on this..Polo service interval around 15k KM and cost around RM500-600. Road tax is cheap but anyone know abt the insurance for the Polo S TSi?

But still I'm goin to discuss with my parents n close friends abt this too..bcuz now what I'm worried abt the Forte is the resale value since the new one is out soon...even i just saw Fiesta spyshots of the next gen model...

I already mentioned 7.3l/100km wo...
Didn't u saw it?
As long as we compared based on same price of RON and routes, I don't see got any pointless or unfair wo