Inspira.
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100k car reccomendation..PLS HELP!
100k car reccomendation..PLS HELP!
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Sep 5 2012, 09:55 AM
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Inspira.
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Sep 5 2012, 11:14 AM
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QUOTE(RudyZ07 @ Sep 5 2012, 10:43 AM) Hi guys, No offense to you, and your preference, but seriously, go and test drive an inspira.I'm really appreciating the replies and your opinions. No offence to the national brands, but i'm not intending to buy a P1 or P2. To answer some of your questions, I'm working in the advertising/industry whereby we work a lot of late hours like till 12am, 5am oso got...thus I can get let's say around RM300-RM1k a month just on overtime plus allowances. I'm also a fresh grad but my pay is considered good already for a fresh grad plus I'm really grateful that my parents have bought me a 2-storey terrace house in Ampang..thus in terms of property investment, i'm covered. Also I don't waste my disposable income on drinking, shopping, etc...I'm a very simple person that always go value for money. I'm not buying a nice car bcuz to show off but it's bcuz of my job as we have to travel a lot like meeting clients, go to photoshoot, etc. I just need a car that is fast, good build quality(no rattling noise when langgar roadbump, minor potholes), good resale value so I can sell in 4-5 years time for bigger car. I do understand that Kia and Ford aftersales can improve after the Forte and Fiesta, thus I'm optimistic. This future car is really important to my job. Sure, it has a proton badge to it, but you want advice, right? Just test drive it, no harm done. There are tons of people who changed from non-proton cars to inspira after they test drove it. Do you think people who bought a 90k inspira has no money to buy non-proton cars? Get out of the old mentality. |
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Sep 5 2012, 11:37 AM
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QUOTE(RudyZ07 @ Sep 5 2012, 11:18 AM) I do agree with cokelatpanda...B segment might be enuf as the Forte and Elantra are under C segment(do correct me if i'm wrong) bcuz I'm still young and not planning on getting married/have a family in a long time. New Inspira comes with touch screen GPS. Though I don't like looking at a huge 2-din screen at my dashboard, but that's my own preferences.maybe narrowing it down now to Ford Fiesta XTR, Honda City, and maybe the Forte too bcuz I'm gettin a good offer with the GPS touch screen and leather seats I'm aware as well that the new Forte(K3) is coming out soon..but it will probably reach our shores by end of next year or 2014..thus, buying Forte now should be ok. I just need a car soon, my Naza Suria ady making noise..really kesian her, hehe Added on September 5, 2012, 11:20 amHi Xeda, I appreciate your opinion and thanks for the idea, will try and get an Inspira test drive this weekend. How's the build quality and can add touch screen GPS? GPS important for me as I'm travelling a lot to places I'm not familiar to during tv commercial shoots, etc... Furthermore, I want it built-in to the car so it's much safer..i think, please do advise I was in the same place as you were last time, I was considering a few cars to choose -: a) Honda City b) Honda Civic c) Ford Fiesta d) Kia Forte e) Kia Forte Koup f) Proton Inspira I test drove all of it, except for the fiesta. Honda City, was just absurdly underpowered to me, and I felt like driving my Gen 2 while I was test driving Honda City. Funnily enough, the sales person showed me her "Honda City Selling Booklet", and it was written there that the target market for Honda City is young people driving a proton that's upgrading their car. I laughed in my head thinking "This is just the same as my proton, what upgrade?" It was severely underpowered, felt empty and cheap. Though, this is my own opinion, I might have a high standard for a car. Honda Civic, I fell in love with it, every single part of it, but too bad, the old gen Civic was no longer available, and maintenance on a Civic would be a killer too. Ford Fiesta, was too small for me. I love the car, but the size was just....and the design is a little bit too girly for me. Kia Forte - hated the absorbers and the suspension settings. It was too soft. Apart from that, it was good too. But, it lacks the low-end acceleration, and felt a bit slow and sluggish. The evil twin brother Koup, was just, just awesome. Was about to get the Koup, but a 2 door car, is not really that practical. Inspira - This will be a biased review, as it is my preference and I love the inspira. It's a 10 sec car. With a huge-ass body like that, it can go from 0-100 in 10 sec. So, it's fast. Went for a test drive, the sales person sitting next to me kept telling me to floor the pedal. Take corners without braking, go high speed in corners and trust the car. I did. And the car could turn corners at 80-100 km/h, easily. If you want a civilized car, that could give you a very comfortable ride cruising at around 100~120km/h, you'll fall asleep driving the inspira. No kidding, I travel from JB-KL-JB every month, and I have always find myself dozing off cuz it's too comfortable. You want a car that can bring the "dark" side out of you.....well, just rev it up to 4k RPM, and you'll fly. 200km/h, easily achievable. Though, take note that the stock tyre's maximum speed is only 210km/h, any faster, you'll probably burst it (Conti CC5 tyre, comfort tyre, not for hardcore driving). A fair bit of a warning here, if you drive like a madman, Inspira will drink your fuel like an alcoholic. Drive it normally, the FC is average. If you want a car that does 700km per tank, get a myvi or kancil, not an Inspira. Maintenance, around 200 per servicing if you use semi, even 5k km. Use full syn, around 300 per servicing every 10k km. Spare parts are easily available as there are an abundance of Inspira/Lancer on the road. But at the end of the day, test drive, all your car choices. People can only tell you so much based on their experience. I went on my car hunt and was dead set on getting a Civic/Koup, I was even willing to go all over Malaysia looking for a Civic that would be available, but that was befoe I test drove Inspira. Inspira was the last car I test drove (since my parents told me to give it a shot), so I did, and I couldn't be bothered with Civic/Koup anymore. Test drive the cars yourself. |
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Sep 5 2012, 12:10 PM
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QUOTE(RudyZ07 @ Sep 5 2012, 11:57 AM) Hi guys, Fiesta is a good car, from what I have heard and from reading up on other people's experience, but it was just too small for me. BUT, it's true, finding parking with my Inspira is a pain in the ass, especially if you're in a shopping mall.Thanks again for the replies. Fiesta would be useful as it's nimble and agile(really my style of driving), does not have to be super fast just agile and balanced. But now Xeda is really giving me a thought as the Inspira is quite worth it. with the amount of features and space. Nimble and agile, come to the Inspira club's TT every friday, and we'll teach you the definition of nimble and agile. You'll be amazed at what these people do to their Inspira and how they drive it. I swear to god, I thought I was a crazy driver, zig zagging all over the place, but these people....they hit 140 km/h on normal city roads. No shit. QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Sep 5 2012, 12:04 PM) Features wise the Preve would be a much better choice. Plus Stability Control is a very important safety feature regardless of your driving speed. On paper and specs, Preve is a better choice, if you're only looking at the specs, not the design or the fit and finishing. I test drove Preve, it drives the same, if not, better than the Inspira. But I don't like the design. It's just fugly to me. |
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Sep 5 2012, 12:20 PM
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QUOTE(dares @ Sep 5 2012, 12:15 PM) From what I understand, go to Inspira TT your wallet will koyak also Hahaha, I went to Inspira TT, and my wallet didn't koyak. You need strong anti-body to resist all sorts of poison there. They'll give you craps from adding a tiny tweeter to your car to shits like remapping your car's ECU to adjustable suspensions and bodykits.Added on September 5, 2012, 12:16 pm Most people are concerned with reliability. Preve is good on paper, but reliability-wise, sorry my vote goes to Inspira as well. It's like a car's accessory shop. Oh yeah, TS, if you want to test drive and see the full potential of an Inspira, go to their TT, every Friday, at 32 square PJ. Tons of people willing to show you what an Inspira can do. Just.....well, make sure you're brave and don't piss your pants when they bring you around test-driving their Inspiras. |
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Sep 5 2012, 04:01 PM
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QUOTE(alg7_munif @ Sep 5 2012, 03:37 PM) I can give you 6 options. The car that doesn't fit your requirement from my options is marked with red in your post above. I think you should consider Forte since it fits most of your requirement. Like the dude said, if you're basing it on your requirenemnts, then Forte would be the one that fits most of it. Forte's interior is just awesome, even more if you look at the Koup. My ranking based on the above criteria would be: Usage: (City drive / long distance highway) Swift;Fiesta;City;Preve;Forte;Inspira Car size: (Bigger / smaller) Inspira;Preve;Forte;City;Fiesta;Swift Boot: (required / not required) Preve;Forte;Inspira;City;Fiesta;Swift Fuel Consumption: (must be good / don't really care) Fiesta;City;Swift;Preve;Inspira;Forte Resale value: (must be good / don't really care) City;Swift;Fiesta;Inspira;Forte;Preve (My guess only) Interior quality: (must feel premium / don't really care) Forte;City;Preve;Fiesta;Swift;Inspira Handling: (must be good / don't really care) Swift;Fiesta;Inspira;Preve;City;Forte (all are quite good actually) Safety features: (more is better / don't really care) Fiesta;Forte;Preve;City;Inspira;Swift Goodies: (more is better / don't really care) Forte;Preve;Fiesta;Inspira;Swift;City I wouldn't bother looking at FC too much if I were you, I've driven 1.6, 1.8, and 2.0 cars, and their FC are very similar. It's highly dependant on how you drive. But, if you are very FC conscious, then you gotta get a small, economical car (I'm talking about kancil, here). That's the only way. I am willing to bet with you that if you take all the 6 cars above, and drive them constantly at 110km/h, the FC would be about the same. So, technically, a car doesn't make much difference in FC, your driving style does. Even if you take all 6 cars and drive in stop and go traffic, all the time, if you rev all the 6 cars at an average rev of 3k rpm, in stop and go traffic, I'm willing to bet with you the FC would be similar too. Wanna save fuel? Don't hit the pedal so much, simple as that. But, don't ever, ever, buy a car without test driving it first. Pick a bunch of car, test drive it, and then decide. |
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Sep 5 2012, 05:25 PM
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QUOTE(azfamy @ Sep 5 2012, 04:59 PM) Perhaps so, as the preve I tested was a 1st batch. In spite of what the paper-specs say, Inspira felt more responsive and torquey as lower revs compared to Preve. Remember that Mitsu gave proton a detuned lancer engine (lower hp), 140+ vs. 156. Maybe due to that, inspira gets a flatter torque curve as a trade-off. I'm just speculating. This better ask owners. Also note, the k3 is on the horizon, so the forte's gonna be a "previous-gen" car soon. Fiesta facelift also in the works. But I don't hear any "lancer" replacement coming very soon. There's already news about a new lancer coming. Just google it.About the detuned lancer part, yeah, Inspira is tuned to produce less power than the lancer, though they're using the exact same engine and transmission. Easily solved, just need to remap the Inspira. |
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Sep 5 2012, 05:37 PM
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http://www.cbt.com.my/2012/08/27/mitsubish...lancer-in-2014/
Nah. 2014 Lancer. Didn't wanna post it cuz thread is not talking about new gen lancer. |
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Sep 6 2012, 11:46 AM
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QUOTE(cokelatpanda @ Sep 6 2012, 11:12 AM) Polo sport, you mean polo tsi ka. Do you think you prepared to bela a conti. If yes, why not, for a nice ride. QUOTE(RudyZ07 @ Sep 6 2012, 11:17 AM) yea, the Polo 1.2 TSi, depends if my friend can scout for me a pre-reg one..he sed should be around RM90k..so if i put 10k downpayment, so loan around 80k, just that the interest rate would b higher since its pre-reg unit Listen to Cokelat. There's a lot of other things to consider when buying a car instead of just the car's price.Main concern would be maintenance. Cost to service, cost to replace wear and tear part, cost to fix something in case you get into an accident, etc. Conti maintenance will not be cheap. I don't think you can afford it, or more accurately, I don't think you would want to afford it. |
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Sep 6 2012, 05:30 PM
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QUOTE(RudyZ07 @ Sep 6 2012, 12:14 PM) That's very true, really appreciate you guys pointing out on this..Polo service interval around 15k KM and cost around RM500-600. Road tax is cheap but anyone know abt the insurance for the Polo S TSi? Don't just consider the cost of normal service and normal maintenance. Normal service and normal maintenance for all new cars are around the same, since it's just changing lubricants and such. But still I'm goin to discuss with my parents n close friends abt this too..bcuz now what I'm worried abt the Forte is the resale value since the new one is out soon...even i just saw Fiesta spyshots of the next gen model... The things you need to consider are the spare parts. I don't know about other cars, since I drive an Inspira, but part of buying a car, is that you would need to be willing to fork out money for the spare parts - Just in case. Let's just talk about Inspira, since that's the only one I know. Sure, it's a good car, but I'm not going to sugar coat it, it's an expensive car to maintain. Did you know Inspira's headlights cost 1.6k per side? Yes, PER SIDE. Motorized headlights from Mitsubishi, that's why they're so expensive. Break it, and you'll cry. Inspira's CVT costs 27k, without labour. Our wipers cost 160+ to replace, instead of typical 50+ for original Bosch. Inspira's Throttle Body is 3.5k, without labour. The only cheap part in Inspira, are the absorbers, 100+ each, because they're from Proton. The rest of the major parts are from Mitsubishi, making them expensive. And that's just talking about Inspira. I'm not trying to say Inspira is a bad car, but I'm trying to make you understand that you need to cosnider a lot of things when buying a car. Sure, all these things would not need to be replaced every year, and chances are, you will never need to replace it, BUT, what if, you got into a bad accident? What if, you don't want to claim your insurance for repairing your car? What if, you have no choice but to replace all these parts with your own money? I'm pretty sure Continental car's parts would be more expensive. Inspira is, just a proton, at the end of the day Though I keep seeing Mitsubishi logo on my car's parts Not here to discourage you from getting a car, but I'm here to show you the realistic view of owning a car. It's not just all fun and joy of driving in your brand new car, picking up girls. |
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Sep 6 2012, 06:32 PM
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Sep 6 2012, 09:40 PM) its normal that the more expensive the car, the more expensive the parts is...its always has been like that Thank you, captain obvious. You totally missed the point of my post. Its not about whether the parts are cheap or expensive, it's about the fact that these things needs to be taken into consideration when buying a car.and the wiper, no need to change OEM, just buy bosch as long as its the same size, less than 100 for both here in LYN and the CVT is normal price actually, and this is no matter what car u drive(cheap or expensive) saga's CVT itself also cost 25k(almost same as inspira as well) some parts are especially expensive cuz they dn't spoil so quickly or easily(u can use for 5 years and still is ok) and the absorber isn't from proton la, proton dnt make absorber, most probably from kayaba(japanese company) = they mass produce, thats why its cheap but parts are expensive but in maintainance, u save cuz it uses timing chain, u dn't need to change the timing belt and water pump every 80k KM Don't need to try to be a smartass. |
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