Nokia Symbian user here (N8) and was going for Lumia WP7 / 8 but now sticking to 808

Just want to express some rather disappointing opinion on the flagship 920, (Later anyone can bash me but I will ignore )

Was really hope for the rumor 21MP but get lower spec instead. Anyway, like the OIS feature but really doubt the low light capability even with this video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBOlvQ4NFu4 or this article - http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/26/lumia-9...light-shootout/

To me it seems like the 920 do some trick by use flash first to pre-capture the image before finalize the output. Others also hint that the camera default mode is set closely to night mode with low shutter speed (Never seen any daylight picture yet and moving object looks blur). The comparison with other phone with their default auto mode also not that fair. I played with S3 and HTC 1X camera before, they don't perform that bad at low light environment with some tweaking. 808 simply blow away competition with creative setting. Anyone here will be that dumb to not change their camera scene mode in line with the environment ?

The wireless charging feature to me is abit of joke. Wireless to me is able to charge the phone with > 3 meter or more away from the charger port, not putting directly on top of the charger port. What is the different then by just plugging a cable from the already near charger ? The charging port itself is as big as the phone which is abit cumbersome to carry and a proprietary product (which mean you can't charge using any usb cable or car charger).

All these are just marketing gimmick feature. Though, the PureMotion HD and super sensitive screen is impressive.

Finally, the price.... http://www.lowyat.net/v2/index.php?option=...d=7409&Itemid=1

Too expensive to compete with other flagship phone, most likely more than RM2.2k when it reach Malaysia.

Not too optimistic about WP8 phone.

Nokia Symbian user here (N8) and was going for Lumia WP7 / 8 but now sticking to 808

Just want to express some rather disappointing opinion on the flagship 920, (Later anyone can bash me but I will ignore )

Was really hope for the rumor 21MP but get lower spec instead. Anyway, like the OIS feature but really doubt the low light capability even with this video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBOlvQ4NFu4 or this article - http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/26/lumia-9...light-shootout/

To me it seems like the 920 do some trick by use flash first to pre-capture the image before finalize the output. Others also hint that the camera default mode is set closely to night mode with low shutter speed (Never seen any daylight picture yet and moving object looks blur). The comparison with other phone with their default auto mode also not that fair. I played with S3 and HTC 1X camera before, they don't perform that bad at low light environment with some tweaking. 808 simply blow away competition with creative setting. Anyone here will be that dumb to not change their camera scene mode in line with the environment ?

The wireless charging feature to me is abit of joke. Wireless to me is able to charge the phone with > 3 meter or more away from the charger port, not putting directly on top of the charger port. What is the different then by just plugging a cable from the already near charger ? The charging port itself is as big as the phone which is abit cumbersome to carry and a proprietary product (which mean you can't charge using any usb cable or car charger).

All these are just marketing gimmick feature. Though, the PureMotion HD and super sensitive screen is impressive.

Finally, the price.... http://www.lowyat.net/v2/index.php?option=...d=7409&Itemid=1

Too expensive to compete with other flagship phone, most likely more than RM2.2k when it reach Malaysia.

Not too optimistic about WP8 phone.

I think everyone here is clear about that. They are just saying 2.4k is too expensive. That's all.

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Added on September 27, 2012, 11:09 pm
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The general public doesn't know how to change the camera scenes, unfortunately. Put simply, I'd much rather want a camera that just works right out of the box and I believe many people share the same thoughts too. Comparatively, the L920's camera does indeed blow competitors' offerings out of the water, especially under low light environment. So L920 gets my thumbs up for that.

2.4k can get a new lumia 800+pureview 808

Agree with that. I believe 920 has a simple, practical camera for the average users.

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Added on September 28, 2012, 9:31 am
RM2.4k sounds bad enough on its own but when u put it like that it's even worse!

How competitive do you want it to be? At ~120 Euro off iPhone 5 is not enough? On top of that, virtually every aspect, Lumia 920 wins an iPhone 5 hands down. Cheaper than iPhone, better specs, still not satisfied?

Then might as well ask them to give out for free.

Whilst your comments are not unwelcome especially it is just your opinion, here's mine.

iPhone is an internationally acclaimed and reputed smartphone loved by unprecedented numbers of consumers. Nokia was like Apple in years gone by and I still remember they then warranted higher prices. But now they have kinda hid away with their tails between their legs. With that said, to compete with the likes of Apple and even Samsung, they cannot just be a 'few dollars' cheaper than those giant brands if they want to win back a certain percentage and capture the slice of the market they lost in those early years.

Having said that, again, I do not know their rationale and marketing strategies and therefore this is just my opinion.

Whilst your comments are not unwelcome especially it is just your opinion, here's mine.

iPhone is an internationally acclaimed and reputed smartphone loved by unprecedented numbers of consumers. Nokia was like Apple in years gone by and I still remember they then warranted higher prices. But now they have kinda hid away with their tails between their legs. With that said, to compete with the likes of Apple and even Samsung, they cannot just be a 'few dollars' cheaper than those giant brands if they want to win back a certain percentage and capture the slice of the market they lost in those early years.

Having said that, again, I do not know their rationale and marketing strategies and therefore this is just my opinion.

It is true, Apple brand name is enough to propel their products to steep prices for the sheeps. Nokia's brand is weak, should call it niche and Windows Phone OS is weak and carries bad perception from old releases. It is going to be a tough challenge to place it higher than SG3. You may be a tech enthusiat but general public don't give a hoot about eco systems.

But all is not lost, like jon mentioned the leaked pricing is including Europe tax, which could be high and based on trend, flagship phones are always priced high at launch to gauge the reception then later adjusted to include maybe 10% discount. But don't bet on seeing a Lumia 800 like price slash

buy the htc wp can get free beats ar??

at 1st i was disappointed cause the mp is lower than what i had hoped for...
i have to say that one is foolish to choose a phone just because of this wireless charging feature
it works but nothing important

btw that little light trick is call the autofocus (af) lamp assist

taken from the website http://www.steves-digicams.com/knowledge-c...ist-lamp.html#b
to explain about AF lamp assist if you dont know