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post Oct 1 2012, 01:11 PM

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If Lumia 820 is below RM1200 I buy.
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post Oct 1 2012, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(jonchai @ Oct 1 2012, 09:37 AM)
In terms of specs, only the processor and graphics on the L920 lose to iPhone 5. That is only important if you are a benchie geek, where points matter above all else.

Also, iPhone 5 is more light weight, around 72g lighter than L920.

L920 on the other hand has superb camera, wireless charging, NFC, super sensitive screen, higher-than-retina display and clear black technology.

So, make your call
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damn prolly the psu and gpu will surely effect the laggy-ness right ?
ill still go for wp8 although theres not much demand on the apps
and the accesories. true bummer sad.gif
but the wireless charging. salute ma maann
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QUOTE(aiqal @ Oct 1 2012, 04:16 PM)
damn prolly the psu and gpu will surely effect the laggy-ness right ?
ill still go for wp8 although theres not much demand on the apps
and the accesories. true bummer sad.gif 
but the wireless charging. salute ma maann
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To me the wireless charging is the least beneficial feature 920 has to offer. It's cool of cz but can't see the real point in it. And based on wp7, wp8 doesn't need quadcore 2.0ghz whatever processor to run smooth. Using inferior hardware it's fluidity and speed is already on par if not better than iphone. Apps will come if wp8 proved to be a hit.

Right now the only thing that could stop me from getting it is crazy pricing. We'll see.

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QUOTE(luckyhillkop @ Oct 1 2012, 04:31 PM)
To me the wireless charging is the least beneficial feature 920 has to offer. It's cool of cz but can't see the real point in it. And based on wp7, wp8 doesn't need quadcore 2.0ghz whatever processor to run smooth. Using inferior hardware it's fluidity and speed is already on par if not better than iphone. Apps will come if wp8 proved to be a hit.

Right now the only thing that could stop me from getting it is crazy pricing. We'll see.
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following the rumors in early pages the price wont go higher thn 2k
i suppose ? if you get one. kindly share your review here for us biggrin.gif
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post Oct 1 2012, 05:15 PM

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If the price is crazy, don't worry. You are probably not the only one thinking so. When respond is bad, the price will drop. Just be patient.
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QUOTE(killdavid @ Oct 1 2012, 05:15 PM)
If the price is crazy, don't worry. You are probably not the only one thinking so. When respond is bad, the price will drop. Just be patient.
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Hahaha, true...just hoping it to come ASAP...as I'm hoping to get one before CnY tongue.gif
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post Oct 1 2012, 06:43 PM

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QUOTE(aiqal @ Oct 1 2012, 04:16 PM)
damn prolly the psu and gpu will surely effect the laggy-ness right ?
ill still go for wp8 although theres not much demand on the apps
and the accesories. true bummer sad.gif 
but the wireless charging. salute ma maann
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Well, just to correct you on certain term, processor is often called CPU, not PSU. CPU stands for Central Processing Unit (processor). PSU stands for Power Supply Unit, often seen in desktop PCs to convert AC voltage to DC to power your rig.

I don't think you'll even feel the lagginess. While having a bloody fast processor may seem like a good thing, in reality it really isn't. A faster processor requires more power, thereby killing your battery. On the other hand, L920 is equipped with a Snapdragon S4 dual core 28nm (if I'm not mistaken). This is the second generation of S4, with higher transistor count, thereby reducing "leakages". I'm not E&E engineer, this is the max I can tell you without having to go through books. On top of that, since S4 itself is a chipset (processor + board + SoC), I believe there's more to it than just a faster processor. Perhaps better 4G connectivity? I'm not too sure.

On top of that, WP as an operating system itself is very much optimized to run efficiently. If you're the privileged few who have the chance to run Windows 8 RTM, you'll know what I mean. And since they share the same Kernel, WP8 will most likely be smooth as silk as Windows 8.

We can also make a comparison. Bring an iPhone 3GS with iOS 6 and compare it side by side with any WP7 phones. Why iOS 6? It's simply because Apple allows them to upgrade which means that they are certified to run. So we can compare how efficient both platforms are. Although it's not much of an indication, at least it is something to look forward to.

As for apps, you don't have to worry. As of this writing, many major game developers are already porting their games to WP8. Unity has agreed to bring their engine over. I foresee more will follow suit. The main reason WP7 lacked apps was because some idiots at Microsoft thought that it'd be a good idea to implement a walled garden. No doubt, in terms of protecting the operating system, it's a good approach. But look at where it got them? WP8 will change all these with native code access, meaning most developers who have developed their apps using native code (C++) on other platforms will then be able to effortlessly bring their apps over with just a few minor tweaks.

If you're in for games, you don't have to worry. WP8 also offers a subset of direct X 9. That means, even PC / Xbox game developers will be able to jump onto WP8 bandwagon with little to no learning curve.

To me, wireless charging is Nokia's approach to youngsters. It gives youths the "Me first" factor. It's cool to be able to charge your phone without cable, don't you think? I can even show off and say, heck, I can place my phone here and it starts charging. Can yours do it? No? iPhone sucks. Pointless feature to me, but hey, I don't call shots.

Hope it clears up for you.
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QUOTE(jonchai @ Oct 1 2012, 06:43 PM)
Well, just to correct you on certain term, processor is often called CPU, not PSU. CPU stands for Central Processing Unit (processor). PSU stands for Power Supply Unit, often seen in desktop PCs to convert AC voltage to DC to power your rig.

I don't think you'll even feel the lagginess. While having a bloody fast processor may seem like a good thing, in reality it really isn't. A faster processor requires more power, thereby killing your battery. On the other hand, L920 is equipped with a Snapdragon S4 dual core 28nm (if I'm not mistaken). This is the second generation of S4, with higher transistor count, thereby reducing "leakages". I'm not E&E engineer, this is the max I can tell you without having to go through books. On top of that, since S4 itself is a chipset (processor + board + SoC), I believe there's more to it than just a faster processor. Perhaps better 4G connectivity? I'm not too sure.

On top of that, WP as an operating system itself is very much optimized to run efficiently. If you're the privileged few who have the chance to run Windows 8 RTM, you'll know what I mean. And since they share the same Kernel, WP8 will most likely be smooth as silk as Windows 8.

We can also make a comparison. Bring an iPhone 3GS with iOS 6 and compare it side by side with any WP7 phones. Why iOS 6? It's simply because Apple allows them to upgrade which means that they are certified to run. So we can compare how efficient both platforms are. Although it's not much of an indication, at least it is something to look forward to.

As for apps, you don't have to worry. As of this writing, many major game developers are already porting their games to WP8. Unity has agreed to bring their engine over. I foresee more will follow suit. The main reason WP7 lacked apps was because some idiots at Microsoft thought that it'd be a good idea to implement a walled garden. No doubt, in terms of protecting the operating system, it's a good approach. But look at where it got them? WP8 will change all these with native code access, meaning most developers who have developed their apps using native code (C++) on other platforms will then be able to effortlessly bring their apps over with just a few minor tweaks.

If you're in for games, you don't have to worry. WP8 also offers a subset of direct X 9. That means, even PC / Xbox game developers will be able to jump onto WP8 bandwagon with little to no learning curve.

To me, wireless charging is Nokia's approach to youngsters. It gives youths the "Me first" factor. It's cool to be able to charge your phone without cable, don't you think? I can even show off and say, heck, I can place my phone here and it starts charging. Can yours do it? No? iPhone sucks. Pointless feature to me, but hey, I don't call shots.

Hope it clears up for you.
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sorry im still a noob. thanks for making things clear for me smile.gif
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QUOTE(luckyhillkop @ Oct 1 2012, 04:31 PM)
To me the wireless charging is the least beneficial feature 920 has to offer. It's cool of cz but can't see the real point in it. And based on wp7, wp8 doesn't need quadcore 2.0ghz whatever processor to run smooth. Using inferior hardware it's fluidity and speed is already on par if not better than iphone. Apps will come if wp8 proved to be a hit.

Right now the only thing that could stop me from getting it is crazy pricing. We'll see.
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just because Apple said its "pointless" now the entire herd is saying that its pointless?

Advantages of wireless charging:

1. Especially with Coffee bean signing up to provide wireless charging pad at Coffee Bean outlets will allow wireless charging for supported hand sets. If your phone's battery is dying, you can conveniently place the phone on the charging pad while having your lunch for example! This is especially usefull if you have important phone calls to make. No one carry their charger with them. VERY FEW carry USB charging cable with to allow laptop charging. Even less people carry around a spare smartphone battery.

2. With wireless charging, you do not keep on plugging and unplugging charging cable from your phone greatly reducing chance of spoiling the charging connector on the phone. I have personally experienced this on my motorola handsets. A charging pad can be permanent plugged to a socket. You just turn the switch on if you want to use it.

3. For users of multiple smartphones, more than one phones can be charged at a time.

4. Great designs of charging pad. the fat boy charging pillow for example - with its soft surface - making scratching your phone almost impossible.

5. Bragging right. Its cool. its something that an expensive iphone is too dump to do.

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So Tim Cook, i am not a CEO of the company of the worlds most used smartphone yet I managed to come up with five advantages of wireless charging to PROVE that you are WRONG. Wireless charging is NOT pointless as you have said so!

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Wireless charging probably will be useless in Malaysia. I doubt Coffee Bean Malaysia will provide the service XD
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QUOTE(g5sim @ Oct 1 2012, 08:42 PM)
just because Apple said its "pointless" now the entire herd is saying that its pointless?

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Err from how u take this personally, who's actually in a 'herd'? I didn't even know Apple say it's pointless.
It's lovely that u like it. Really lovely. Nokia needs followers like u to survive. I mean it's about time, Apple has had it for years! rolleyes.gif

On a serious note, I welcome wireless charging but that's not why I want this phone. There are plenty other features in 920 that matter more to me. nod.gif
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QUOTE(luckyhillkop @ Oct 1 2012, 08:55 PM)
Err from how u take this personally, who's actually in a 'herd'? I didn't even know Apple say it's pointless.
It's lovely that u like it. Really lovely. Nokia needs followers like u to survive. I mean it's about time, Apple has had it for years!  rolleyes.gif

On a serious note, I welcome wireless charging but that's not why I want this phone. There are plenty other features in 920 that matter more to me.  nod.gif
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its not that its more like i am passionate in hating apple. I cannot forgive a company to use $$$$ to promote bully in school. They did that for $$$$ via tv add . the PC vs MAC ad!!
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QUOTE(g5sim @ Oct 1 2012, 09:01 PM)
its not that its more like i am passionate in hating apple. I cannot forgive a company to use $$$$ to promote bully in school. They did that for $$$$ via tv add . the PC vs MAC ad!!
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U tell 'em g5sim!
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QUOTE(g5sim @ Oct 1 2012, 08:42 PM)
just because Apple said its "pointless" now the entire herd is saying that its pointless?

Advantages of wireless charging:

1. Especially with Coffee bean signing up to provide wireless charging pad at Coffee Bean outlets will allow wireless charging for supported hand sets. If your phone's battery is dying, you can conveniently place the phone on the charging pad while having your lunch for example! This is especially usefull if you have important phone calls to make. No one carry their charger with them. VERY FEW carry USB charging cable with to allow laptop charging. Even less people carry around a spare smartphone battery.

2. With wireless charging, you do not keep on plugging and unplugging charging cable from your phone greatly reducing chance of spoiling the charging connector on the phone. I have personally experienced this on my motorola handsets. A charging pad can be permanent plugged to a socket. You just turn the switch on if you want to use it.

3. For users of multiple smartphones, more than one phones can be charged at a time.

4. Great designs of charging pad. the fat boy charging pillow for example - with its soft surface - making scratching your phone almost impossible.

5. Bragging right. Its cool. its something that an expensive iphone is too dump to do.

____________

So Tim Cook, i am not a CEO of the company of the worlds most used smartphone yet I managed to come up with five advantages of wireless charging to PROVE that you are WRONG. Wireless charging is NOT pointless as you have said so!
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I beg to differ. While what you said may have some merits, especially for number 4 and 5, it's still the least useful features among all. It's also because of wireless charging that caused L920's weight to skyrocket.

As for number 1, unfortunately, this is not the States. We won't be seeing this here in Malaysia until it's widely adopted as a standard. As it stands, Qi is relatively new. So until it's proven, they won't be widely available.

2. I've never experienced that. Maybe you've done that a lot more times than I did, so can't argue there.

3. It's yet to be seen. I'm not sure if it can provide enough power to charge multiple devices at the same time. I'll keep this in view.
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wireless charging might not be very usefull... but it is still a cool feature that iPoo doesn't have... nyeh nyeh... rclxs0.gif

actually, i'm curious about the power consumption... will the wireless charger consume electricity while no device sit on it??? sorry... too lazy to search for the answer blush.gif

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Nevermind the price now. At least for certain people. we have subsidies. brows.gif
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QUOTE(chaukeng @ Oct 1 2012, 10:07 PM)
Nevermind the price now. At least for certain people. we have subsidies. brows.gif
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I'm curious about how to get the rebate. I understand that it's only available for authorized sellers.
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i think i will settle down with lumia wp7....don't want spend so much on latest phone...waiting they drop the price after release lumia wp8...
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QUOTE(MistakenZ @ Oct 1 2012, 09:54 PM)
wireless charging might not be very usefull... but it is still a cool feature that iPoo doesn't have... nyeh nyeh... rclxs0.gif

actually, i'm curious about the power consumption... will the wireless charger consume electricity while no device sit on it??? sorry... too lazy to search for the answer  blush.gif
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It will most likely function like your TV. When it is idle, it will draw only 5W while on load, it can draw up to 150W, according to Qi specs


Added on October 1, 2012, 11:01 pm
QUOTE(Holyboy27 @ Oct 1 2012, 10:39 PM)
I'm curious about how to get the rebate. I understand that it's only available for authorized sellers.
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Actually, I'm quite skeptical about the Budget 2013. Did Najib say any smartphones? Or is it only restricted to "cronies"? CSL maybe? Or 1Malaysia Phone?

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the only thing that i'm afraid of wireless charging is when using in shops that provide the service.... afraid that i'll forget that i'm charging my phone then just leave the shop biggrin.gif

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