See the price there? Many times more expensive for HDTV, yet it is nothing more than a camera. So how do you value the price of a product? And how much do you think phone nowadays cost more than 10 years ago? How much for 4GB RAM over 10 years ago? What about 1TB HDD over 10 years ago?
If you want to play cost & time factor, please take a look at this:
The price plunge of consumer electronic devices have been fairly consistent historically. Once there is little or no difference between many competitors, prices would drop like a bomb. What we probably have at the moment is a duopoly - Samsung and Apple, with both demanding huge profit margins from their customers.
Once a third or fourth successful player comes in, the high margin game is over and we customes would get to enjoy great prices.
Gold can't be mass-produced. Cars and phones can be mass-produced.
If you say it is a silly comparison, then why is a 40" LCD TV may cost up to RM20k, more than 10 years ago?
its expensive because consumers are willing to pay it. the same device can cost 2.5K at launch and after 12months - cost 1K. I cant see how LC/Plasma TV price will continue to go down. The price is at same as the tube TV at the time the market was flooded with LCD/Plasma.
At the end of the day - i want value for the device that I buy. Lumia 610 is now selling at RM650 nokia warranty. AP warranty is around RM500. I dont see how huge price difference next year at this time. Thats my argument when i suggest people to buy phone. I also check what people do with their phone! There is just toooo much shit on high end expensive phones that people NEVER NEED or NEVER USE.
its expensive because consumers are willing to pay it. the same device can cost 2.5K at launch and after 12months - cost 1K. I cant see how LC/Plasma TV price will continue to go down. The price is at same as the tube TV at the time the market was flooded with LCD/Plasma.
At the end of the day - i want value for the device that I buy. Lumia 610 is now selling at RM650 nokia warranty. AP warranty is around RM500. I dont see how huge price difference next year at this time. Thats my argument when i suggest people to buy phone. I also check what people do with their phone! There is just toooo much shit on high end expensive phones that people NEVER NEED or NEVER USE.
Yes, I go for value too. Even though I like the Lumia 920, I might only buy it once an even newer top-end Lumia comes out, which causes the Lumia 920 to go down in price by 30 to 50%.
But if the 920 is itself is selling at launch time, cheaper than both the IP5 and S3 by 30%, then I would go for the 920 right away.
its expensive because consumers are willing to pay it. the same device can cost 2.5K at launch and after 12months - cost 1K. I cant see how LC/Plasma TV price will continue to go down. The price is at same as the tube TV at the time the market was flooded with LCD/Plasma.
At the end of the day - i want value for the device that I buy. Lumia 610 is now selling at RM650 nokia warranty. AP warranty is around RM500. I dont see how huge price difference next year at this time. Thats my argument when i suggest people to buy phone. I also check what people do with their phone! There is just toooo much shit on high end expensive phones that people NEVER NEED or NEVER USE.
sifu the only phone that have good value is iphone. 4S is still RM2199 close to 1 year di
Yes, I go for value too. Even though I like the Lumia 920, I might only buy it once an even newer top-end Lumia comes out, which causes the Lumia 920 to go down in price by 30 to 50%.
But if the 920 is itself is selling at launch time, cheaper than both the IP5 and S3 by 30%, then I would go for the 920 right away.
I tried to look for the expected value, but seems like it's gonna be an expensive one.
sifu the only phone that have good value is iphone. 4S is still RM2199 close to 1 year di
S3 from 2K ++ now drop to RM1799 in few months
the problem with iphone is I would rather find out that i brain cancer and have 1y to live than to be associated with a product bought by people who queue "for days" just to get their hands on the product and when they got it, they had this sense of proudness that make me want to vomit!!
the problem with iphone is I would rather find out that i brain cancer and have 1y to live than to be associated with a product bought by people who queue "for days" just to get their hands on the product and when they got it, they had this sense of proudness that make me want to vomit!!
Yes, these people can behave as if, by owning one, that they have achieved something very great in the life. How pathetic. I definitely don't want to be associated with this kind of shallow-mindedness.
This post has been edited by FastCoder: Sep 9 2012, 02:02 PM
Like i buy phones not because how shallow minded people are i buy because of good resell value.
Just imagine i can always use the latest phone and my depreciate value only RM100 - RM300 anually rather than 1 year lose 1K then must top up 1K to buy the so called latest phone.
Your 1 phone value depreciate 1k for my iphone depreciate is 3 generation of iphones le.
Then for your 2 generaton phone value depreciate 2k for the iphone is like 6 generations le
This post has been edited by aspire2oo6: Sep 9 2012, 06:17 PM
HAHAHAHA first time in 1 year i see the windows phone section in lowyat got 53 people viewing
QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Sep 6 2012, 12:07 AM)
Windows phone section got
Windows Phone (62 Active Users)
Great^^ We are growing
QUOTE(Fazri9900 @ Sep 6 2012, 02:08 PM)
for me this is the best phone i have ever seen..but i'm not so sure why the nokia shareholders doesnt think that way..nokia shares plunge to 16%?? why ar??
L820 and L920 lack the "wow" element><
QUOTE(Andrew Lim @ Sep 6 2012, 02:51 PM)
Because...
1) WP8's complete features are still a mystery. 2) No release date for this phone. So for now is vapourware. 3) Motorola released some interesting Droid phones on the same day. 4) Next week is iPhone 5 announced. And everytime it's announced it's available within 2 weeks. 5) Pureview brand but still only 8MP compared to 808's 41MP. 6) Downgraded the polycarbonate chassis to glossy plastic from matte plastic. 7) Doesn't seem that much better than the Samsung ATIV. 8) They posted fake Pureview trailer to con people.
Awww.... I thought they are using polycarbonate? they are not? The polycarbonate on L800 just looks so smooth and nice... Why glossy?!
QUOTE(FastCoder @ Sep 7 2012, 12:07 AM)
From the specs given in gsmarena, the 920 supports USB on-the-go. So even though the 920 doesn't have a Micro-SD slot, in theory, you can connect a USB drive to it to copy files in and out.
Which is better? A usb drive or a micro-sd card? For me, handling a micro-sd card is messy because it could easily get lost, so I much prefer using a usb drive.
So, L920 no microSD? I thought it has... Anyway, I'm ok with both.... USB OTG does not come in the box?
QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Sep 7 2012, 06:18 PM)
In a way you are right. I dont expect it to be an 808 just expect half of it. The problem with 920 it has the name of pureview but there nothing to do with its previous successor. Its more like a marketing name thats it. My expectation benefit is for consumers.
Like i said numerous time
Nokia 808 pureview
Lossless zoom - Not on 920 Nokia Rich recording - Not on 920 Nokia pixels oversampling - Not on 920 Nokia Xenon flash - Not on 920 Nokia OIS - not on 808 Nokia so called float sensor - Not on 808 Nokia LED flash pulse - not on 808
For nokia rich recording watch this video
Lossless zoom
They just removed all this from the Nokia Lumia 920
Why they take away the rich recording.... Haiz... the rich recording is really amazing... it sounds like it is playing from a dvd ><
Added on September 9, 2012, 10:08 pmI think that L920 and L820 are just extensions from L800 and L900 as suggested by the phone name... I wonder when will L1000 be released... Really don't hope that it is announced few months after the both phones on sales.... Then the history of L900 will repeat ><
This post has been edited by DavidWKW: Sep 9 2012, 10:08 PM
Why they take away the rich recording.... Haiz... the rich recording is really amazing... it sounds like it is playing from a dvd ><
Nokia Lumia 920 come with 3 high amplitude mics which maybe consider come with Nokia Rich Recording Technology
QUOTE(DavidWKW @ Sep 9 2012, 10:08 PM)
I think that L920 and L820 are just extensions from L800 and L900 as suggested by the phone name... I wonder when will L1000 be released... Really don't hope that it is announced few months after the both phones on sales.... Then the history of L900 will repeat ><
the problem is not from Nokia but Microsoft
This post has been edited by marcus20125: Sep 10 2012, 08:49 AM
Nokia Lumia 920 come with 3 high amplitude mics which maybe consider come with Nokia Rich Recording Technology the problem is not from Nokia but Microsoft
If Nokia don't focus on it means it's not a pro of the device. Let's wait for official test.