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English Clubs Liverpool FC- The Kop Talk 2012, Liverpool 0-2 Arsenal - 2nd defeat!

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post Aug 24 2012, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(leftist @ Aug 24 2012, 11:06 AM)
first a superb pass from Hendo where he missed completely when only a keeper to beat..then a Sterling pass in which he shot against the post..an own goal where he miss a cross from Kelly..luckily there's a Hearts defender able to save his embarrasment..bout 3 golden chances there..despite all that I have to admit he's got a good movement..several times a linesman made a bad call when he clearly onside shakehead.gif
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thats 3 chances which he should burried the ball in the net.. no excuse from him.. but only 3 chances in 90 mins.. against Hearts.. shocking, no?

as you said, he got good movement and linesman being an arse flagging him offside when he timed his run just nice. give him a couple of games to get better understanding with other team mates and he'll be ok.




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post Aug 24 2012, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(vreis @ Aug 24 2012, 11:22 AM)
Easier said than done unless you are Rm or Barca. Even top Italians club lost their appeal nowadays.
On side note no matter how top you are, some players will want to ply their trade in Spain esp players from latin countries, maybe culture???
I agree with that. & Carroll also has the right to reject those offers , & rejected he did right? Thats where contract comes into play.
I can't imagine or even believe that a player can be sold against his will. Who's signature is it at the end of the day??? Or did the club point a gun asking him to sign contract with new club? even then he can annul the contact citing duress.
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At the end of the day, whatever that benefits Liverpool, I will be happy. We get ripped off too many times, so it's payback time! Haha.

By the way, this BR's comment on Nuri Sahin loan deal.

"Hopefully in the next 24 hours we will get some confirmation on that," said the Liverpool manager after his side's Europa League win at Hearts

Hope that all the drama will be over and we get our men - Sahin and Dempsey. Then hopefully Adam Johnson.

Some fans here commented about wanting Liverpool to sign Scott Sinclair instead. This is very unlikely judging by the bitterness of Swansea in the Joe Allen's transfer deal. They refused to grant him the freedom to play in our pre-season friendlies. Just showed how pissed they were.
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post Aug 24 2012, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(vreis @ Aug 24 2012, 11:22 AM)
Easier said than done unless you are Rm or Barca. Even top Italians club lost their appeal nowadays.
On side note no matter how top you are, some players will want to ply their trade in Spain esp players from latin countries, maybe culture???
I agree with that. & Carroll also has the right to reject those offers , & rejected he did right? Thats where contract comes into play.
I can't imagine or even believe that a player can be sold against his will. Who's signature is it at the end of the day??? Or did the club point a gun asking him to sign contract with new club? even then he can annul the contact citing duress.
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yes, in the end the player have rights to reject any offer because they have contract. they can stay put during entire duration of the contract and the club can't do anything about it. but club can terminate the contract and reimburse the player.. same like what they do when sacking a manager.
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post Aug 24 2012, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(farisq @ Aug 24 2012, 09:17 AM)
Hehe I can agree with u. It was frustrating to watch when we keep on making back passes.

And here is where I think Adam shines cause in the first half IIRC only him made the effort to move the  ball forward when others only opt for safer route i.e. back pass. Yes I know he's a liability when defending. But I think he is a good option to have, provided that he plays in the advance role same as Gerrard position. That's where he's most denagerous and effective.
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I counted at least 2 raking passes from Adam that hit the mark, cross-field ones as well. He came closest to scoring for us in the first half and in the 2nd, jinked past a couple of defenders before releasing a right foot shot that went just wide. Had a pretty good first half all in all, I felt. Was amongst the better performers IMO, despite being booed for being a former Rangers man the whole game. Then again, not many had a good game bar Raheem Sterling.
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QUOTE(rushmode @ Aug 24 2012, 11:49 AM)
yes, in the end the player have rights to reject any offer because they have contract. they can stay put during entire duration of the contract and the club can't do anything about it. but club can terminate the contract and reimburse the player.. same like what they do when sacking a manager.
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Most likely club don't do this & prefer to sell. Afterall there're no benefit for them to write off an "investment". Unless player accept significantly lower payoff or there's team salary cap like in NBA where its the norm to waived players to escape luxury tax, I see no point in club sack players.
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post Aug 24 2012, 12:31 PM

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funny to stalk in arsenal forum,,, when sahin is arsenal bound most of 'em will said great addition, upgrade to song, mouth watering bla3...

when sahin is anfield bound, most of 'em said we didnt need him anyway, not physical type player, not worth paid high wage bla33
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post Aug 24 2012, 12:33 PM

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QUOTE(rushmode @ Aug 24 2012, 11:44 AM)
thats 3 chances which he should burried the ball in the net.. no excuse from him.. but only 3 chances in 90 mins.. against Hearts.. shocking, no?

as you said, he got good movement and linesman being an arse flagging him offside when he timed his run just nice. give him a couple of games to get better understanding with other team mates and he'll be ok.
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with a midfield of adam & jonjo..3 golden chances plus a coupled of bad calls from linesman is not that bad..I rated Borini highly..I'm sure he'll improve, but this surely not one of his good game
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QUOTE(skeleton202 @ Aug 24 2012, 01:31 PM)
funny to stalk in arsenal forum,,, when sahin is arsenal bound most of 'em will said great addition, upgrade to song, mouth watering bla3...

when sahin is anfield bound, most of 'em said we didnt need him anyway, not physical type player, not worth paid high wage bla33
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most of the fans like that.... remind me of HAZARD and KAGAWA


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Soccernet:

Jol when asked about Dempsey

He added: "I never said he's gone on strike. It started during our pre-season tour to Germany. I was probably a bit naive, asking 'Clint, do you want to start?'. All he said was 'You know what I want'.

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It sounds like a script in a movie lol
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QUOTE(leftist @ Aug 24 2012, 11:06 AM)
first a superb pass from Hendo where he missed completely when only a keeper to beat..then a Sterling pass in which he shot against the post..an own goal where he miss a cross from Kelly..luckily there's a Hearts defender able to save his embarrasment..bout 3 golden chances there..despite all that I have to admit he's got a good movement..several times a linesman made a bad call when he clearly onside shakehead.gif
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the 1st superb pass from hendo is 50-50 chance...how many player are good with volley?
2nd chance - must be a goal
3rd chance - this kind of ball very difficult to defend & to score.even clinical finisher like torres can convert it 8/10 from this type of crossing.

do the clear chance he miss is only one from 3..only 2 clear chance & one 50-50 chance he miss smile.gif
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QUOTE(farisq @ Aug 24 2012, 12:57 PM)
Soccernet:

Jol when asked about Dempsey

He added: "I never said he's gone on strike. It started during our pre-season tour to Germany. I was probably a bit naive, asking 'Clint, do you want to start?'. All he said was 'You know what I want'.

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It sounds like a script in a movie lol
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The conversation may be like this

Jol: Clint, do you want to start?
Dempsey: You know what I want.
Jol: What? You wanna start?
Dempsey: I said you know what I want.
Jol: How in the hell would I know? I just asked if you wanna start.
Dempsey: Well, you know it, boss. You know it.
Jol puzzled and think to himself "I dont, damnit."

LOL. biggrin.gif
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Fulham make Liverpool conduct complaint

http://www.givemefootball.com/premier-leag...noShpsK8EvA#_=_


Wait what? When did this happen? Am I late or what
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post Aug 24 2012, 03:24 PM

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http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-new...on-sahin-latest

bring it on man........
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post Aug 24 2012, 03:39 PM

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we will have sahin before sunday.. wonder can he directly in team sheet against city
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QUOTE(skeleton202 @ Aug 24 2012, 03:39 PM)
we will have sahin before sunday.. wonder can he directly in team sheet against city
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that would not be very ideal IMO.

I think Sahin is still lagging behind in terms of match fitness. Let him train with us for a week then sub bench when we're vs Arsenal.
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QUOTE(Yluxion @ Aug 24 2012, 03:43 PM)
that would not be very ideal IMO.

I think Sahin is still lagging behind in terms of match fitness. Let him train with us for a week then sub bench when we're vs Arsenal.
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IIRC, Allen didn't take a whole week with us and he started.. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(bitebug @ Aug 24 2012, 03:47 PM)
IIRC, Allen didn't take a whole week with us and he started.. hmm.gif
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Allen has been a first team player and representing team GB in Olympic and he has been playing for BR as well. While Sahin hardly feature in any competitive matches last season, he even plays out of position during RM pre season friendly (from what I read).
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QUOTE(Yluxion @ Aug 24 2012, 03:59 PM)
Allen has been a first team player and representing team GB in Olympic and he has been playing for BR as well. While Sahin hardly feature in any competitive matches last season, he even plays out of position during RM pre season friendly (from what I read).
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he was deployed as a left back in RM's pre-season
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post Aug 24 2012, 05:31 PM

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QUOTE(rushmode @ Aug 24 2012, 09:41 AM)
to be honest the played like crap yesterday. no disrespect to Hearts, but our team make team looks like world beaters. Their goalie rarely tested by our players.

can't really blame Borini and forwards because he midfield just doesn't work at all. 20 passes amongst the CM and fullbacks in own half then pass back to Reina. then hoofs the ball forward making it easy to intercept by Heart players. when we do trying to pass forward, the passes are wasteful. Shelvey having a bad game amongst them all. like a headless chicken out there.

we have good prospect in Sterling. the lad still young and lightweight but he will be boss in couple of years. Borini while not effective in this game... it looks like he is trying hard. he needs Suarez and creative players to play amongst him.

btw, we can start making a counter on how many times we hit the goal post this season. biggrin.gif
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Already twice... Gerrard hit one that day.... now hit again! laugh.gif
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hm, what is carrol current situation eh?

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