if wasted all the chances...cant really blamed the midfield ehhh??

& that is what we called as unprofessional. If you are angling/hoping for a better company to come calling, then don't sign multi years contract, simple isn't it? Because you are greedy to sign a 5 years contract, when apple comes calling mid term, you goes ard crying for release from contract? Once signed you are bound by the contract. I don't see why the club/company have to cave in to your demand. So unless Apple or whatever big company buy you out from the contract, I don't see the the need for Microsoft to entertain your wants & whims. Afterall you shud have think properly of all pros & cons before signing a long term contract.
If you go on strike, I'm sure Microsoft would take legal action against you & it won't paint a good picture of you in professional line. Same can be said for footballer, they want want to be governed by labour law, I don't see why they should be exception to the rules as they wish.

If Microsoft demands for 500k to buy out your contract when your value is just 150k and Apple make a bid of 220K, of course it holds you back. You will have to go on strike and it's up to them to decide whether they want to keep an unhappy employee or accept the offer from Apple.

Did I not say that people are greedy for their ambition or for money? With your level of integrity and loyalty, I think you should be politician.

I will vote for you.

lets hope for another win against city,hearts and arsenal

all at anfield

Is easier to be said than done in football, an unhappy player will result in half hearted commitment on the pitch than wont win u games, u drop him on the bench, he can still cause disharmony in dressing room, u drop him to reserve, basically u are losing the player money value and paying him doing nothing. So in the end the club have to give in and let him go as long as they are getting the right offer. Players always have the upper hand here.

The game against Hearts itself was pretty poor but it is kind of expected with mostly second string players. Reina and Sterling stood out for me, both played very well. Adam also did quite well but I think it is because he is free of heavy defensive duties playing in that formation, Adam's defensive qualities have always been questionable imo. Borini was a little unlucky hitting the post, but I thought he suffered mostly from lack of service in the game.

So much criticism I see over here on Rodgers, patience guys. Rodgers is no Harry Potter, he can't wave a magic wand and turn our team to a world class team overnight. The only way to learn to play like Barca is to try to play like Barca. If you stick Carroll up front and play long ball, how are we ever going to learn to play tiki taka. This is going to take time, but I'm sure the owners and Rodgers himself knows it. It will take time, and a squad overhaul along the way. Rodgers will bring in a few new faces and slowly we'll see a better team once they get used to Rodger's style of play.

how many chances are they?

wats this involve microsof and aple pulak...

i dont think aple or anyone would want a badly behaving employee. if you can do it to them, you might one day do it to me. employee loyalty counts in organizations that value them. just my thought anyway

but i do agree with chitchat. but i think dempsey should be more professional. he has a contract to play ball, so he should honor it. if we really want him, we should just table a bid. player should never get involved other than to say yes i want to move, but not playing?

people say player power is too much these days, but i think player power is too little, hence such things happen. in a free economy, players should be given the right to choose. if he dishonor the contract, then he should compensate/pay/buyout the contract. that will be more fair to all parties

what you think?

Overall incoherent, but if anything it's an indication of who would flourish and who would struggle under BR.

Adam looked out of his depth. There was a comical moment late in the first half. Agger was looking for an outlet to pass the ball to. Adam presents himself and upon receiving the past, wham! He sends a hollywood pass down the flanks immediately. Sterling tried chasing it but it went out of play. And he wasn't even under any pressure. Shelvey was very poor last night too and guilty of trying too hard. Always look to play the final pass first time but ends of giving away possession. Difficult to see him getting into the first team especially if Sahin comes in, a loan deal might aid his development?

Carra as well, spent the whole night passing the ball to Agger and Reina. I feel a bit sorry for him as you can see he's trying very hard, however if he struggles against Hearts, what chance does he have against City this Sunday?

On the other hand, Henderson's performance was encouraging. He was mostly playing on the wide right areas but despite having little support from Kelly, he held himself well. Calm and composed with the ball, keeps possession and doesn't panic under pressure. A couple of times he tried to put Borini behind defenders with brilliantly executed chips, shows his awareness for his teammates. He was the player Gerrard should have been on Saturday.

Sterling as expected was fearless and took on defenders every chance he gets. Still has lots to learn before he could break into the first 11.

And Downing as an attacking LB? Can't say it's unexpected but never thought I would actually see it.

Then from Microsoft perspective, Apple is seriously undervalues their asset. Thats their prerogative as you are under contract to them. As I said, the probs started when you signed multi year contract with a company thats not your first choice. There'll be no prob if you opt for yearly rolling contract.
Well its a matter a perspective, you chose to see from players view, I chose to view from both sides.


Yeah, its a delicate balance but it can be done as shown by Spurs chairman Levy in their yearly Modric saga
But it also shown can't be done by Wenger in their yearly key players sale
Its a matter of whether the club can afford to risk the value of the said player/s. Spurs have upper hand since Modric can't do nuts as he has multi years left in the contract. Either he rot in few years in reserves or play his best hoping the next year Levy relented.
In Dempsey case, if its up to me, I'll let the player rot in the reserves or youngsters group since he cant command much fees anyway seeing his age & contract duration.
& this is where the Anfield hierachy failed miserably, at least previous ones.

As much as I love Liverpool, we are at fault here, my friend. He was valued at 7.5 million by Fulham and they are ready to sell him anytime. Liverpool thinks that it is too much for a player that has only 1 year left on his contract and already 29 years old. Rumors has it that they offered Adam and Spearing to knock the valuation down but was rejected as Fulham is holding out for 7.5 million cash transfer.

We wanted to bargain unprofessionally and the best way is to turn the head of the player. This tactic is used by Real Madrid all the time.

first a superb pass from Hendo where he missed completely when only a keeper to beat..then a Sterling pass in which he shot against the post..an own goal where he miss a cross from Kelly..luckily there's a Hearts defender able to save his embarrasment..bout 3 golden chances there..despite all that I have to admit he's got a good movement..several times a linesman made a bad call when he clearly onside

yes i fully agree we are at fault. dempsey made the issue complicated by not playing. now both clubs locked in cold war over the player. probably this deal may come in the 11th hour of the last day of the window

Probs always are different parties have different valuations, all wanting to get the best deals for themselves. Also most of them wont pay compensation but expect club to bowed to their demands like the players mentioned below.
Players like Essien/Masch/Tevez/Dempsey are just simply unethical & unprofessional but still they're hot commodities once in the market even with their attitude. so clubs have to shoulder blames as well.

sterling? bellamy and cisse also kena a lot. case of players being too fast?

many times also he got too strong pass from the midfield where he put himself just nice for a run to the goal.

These kinda tactics are widely used in order to get their targets. Its good when we're turning the heads of other clubs players but once we're in their shoes, it left a bitter taste in the mouth.

be a top club, then we will be predator and not the prey

That was exactly what I was trying to tell you. Reality. Players and clubs are realistic and mean. They are not always going to be your average hero in your TV when you watch them week in and week out. They are people and they are management. All think of the best interest to themselves.

Liverpool also wanted to push Caroll out earlier. Look at what they were doing to him. At the end of the day, you sometimes have to take care of your own interest.

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Added on August 24, 2012, 11:18 amHaha. Agree. I rather enjoy watching us being predator as we have been preyed by Real and Barcelona too many times in the case of Owen, Alonso, Arbeloa and Mascherano.

This post has been edited by dillonyong: Aug 24 2012, 11:18 AM

Easier said than done unless you are Rm or Barca. Even top Italians club lost their appeal nowadays.
On side note no matter how top you are, some players will want to ply their trade in Spain esp players from latin countries, maybe culture???

I agree with that. & Carroll also has the right to reject those offers , & rejected he did right? Thats where contract comes into play.
I can't imagine or even believe that a player can be sold against his will. Who's signature is it at the end of the day??? Or did the club point a gun asking him to sign contract with new club? even then he can annul the contact citing duress.