well, looks like CR is not happy at RM.

happy or not he's not gonna come here...lol

Tell the physio to hire Irina Shayk as the nurse and I bet ur a$$ CR7 will sign for us.

This post has been edited by carloz28: Sep 3 2012, 02:38 PM

an excerpt of an article on soccernet:

But there was a problem in the first 45 minutes for the Reds -- their talisman, Steven Gerrard. While Rodgers wants Liverpool to play possession-based football, Gerrard still desires fast breaks. Where Rodgers sees short passes, Gerrard envisions longer ones. Too many times, quick interchanges were snuffed out not by Arsenal's pressure but by Gerrard's poor touch or inability to stick to the game plan.

In short, he looked out of place, a square peg in a round hole. He did become more effective in the second half once Rodgers moved him up closer to Luis Suarez, presumably so that Liverpool's buildup play in the midfield wouldn't lose momentum. We saw Gerrard hit a nice ball into the box from the right side in the 64th minute and a beautiful one-touch redirect pass to Suarez in the 86th minute. Overall, though, you have to wonder how Gerrard will fit into this Liverpool side over the long term.

I have to agree a bit, Gerrard's game during West Brom and now Arsenal, seems a bit off his usual standards.

This post has been edited by reehdus: Sep 3 2012, 02:08 PM

My thoughts exactly on Gerrard. I've always seen him dropping further back as age catches on. It's a natural progression as one is no longer physically able to outpace defenders, or when your reaction time increases. As you get older, you'll noticed that your reflexes get slower, if even by micro seconds. Players like Gullit, Matthaus or event Giggs, who were potent attacking threats in their prime, dropped further back as age caught on.

Rodger's system insists that players make quick, short passes which isn't a strong part of Stevie's game. He is always looking for the killer, incisive pass and he prefers to run with the ball. He simply is not going to be afforded that amount of time up front. Yesterday, he was once step behind each time he was played a short pass. He often took too long and lost possession or he was forced into turning the ball over. Until Lucas returns, Gerrard should fall back, adopting a role Xabi Alonso used to for us, allowing Allen to move further up the pitch.

So that we all can see not getting Demps is not just the only biggest mistake we've made.
We've made too many mistakes, that's why we are where we are.

Oh oh and then there's signing Dirk Kuyt instead of Dani Alves, yes Kuyt has been a loyal servant but Alves is in my opinion the best wing back out there and that was when he was at his peak. And then H&G's refusal to grant Rafa funds for Jovetic. Perhaps signing Downing instead of Mata was there up for grabs.

If you think Houllier's days were a long way back, it goes even further back The legendary Michael Laudrup was due to sign for Liverpool in 1983 on a 3 year contract, but Liverpool at the last minute changed the contract to 4 years and Michael decided not to join and joined Juventus instead.

It's blunders like these that made us where we are today. At an era of globalization where all the big clubs and big club wannabes are cashing in on marketing potential, we were sitting back taking a chill pill basking ourselves in our long but diminishing glory.

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Added on September 3, 2012, 2:24 pmVery true, also what sets Stevie apart from Sahin and Allen is his physicality. We saw how both Sahin and Allen were easily outmuscled by Diaby. Stevie's tackles aren't bad either. Great players always have to adapt as they age, Scholes & Giggs did that part well.

This post has been edited by Cloud0890: Sep 3 2012, 02:24 PM

And I forgot, we also got Harry Kewell instead of Damien Duff in 2003 (when Duff was at his peak). Then we make the same mistakes in signing Stewart Downing instead of Ashley Young last year. History of stupidity does repeat itself in the Anfield Red.

coz we think the those players were not big enuff for the club

Kewell cost 5mil, Duff went for 15mil to a Russian team...so its no brainer we go for Kewell considering he's also at his peak that time. Who knew we'll end up with lame duck
at the very least we trumped em mancs for the Kewell deal

More like we're not big enough to afford them

And I remember whenever we are pathetic and lose to his side, Old Man Wenger will come out and give us encouragement. When we beat his side, he becomes sour grape and criticize us.

Now, he's doing the same thing again.
http://www.london24.com/sport/arsenal/weng...ience_1_1502324?

That article referred to RM signing Becks instead of him(Eto'o) from Mallorca mah as RM have 50% right for him. Nothing to do with us.
Not sure abt Ronaldinho case but maybe it had to do the English Non-EU work permit since that time I'm sure Ronaldinho not yet satisfied the 75% national team appearance.
Sinama & Le Tallec, well they were bought with future in mind so no guarantee they'll becomes world beater but they were world beating potential that time.
Read Anelka agent aka his brother was hawking him to clubs even when we were trying to work out a deal with him, hence Parry pulled the plug on the deal.
Diouf, Diao & Cheyrou read Carroll, Downing, Henderson. Nuff said.

Then RB was given a choice to sign ONLY 1 player, so he opted for a more pressing need.

Past is passed. What for keep emphasizing how we missed out those players? It could be tat we signed them and they flopped as well....

It also could be the case that we signed some relatively decent player that turned out great for us... Eg, Bellamy, Riera, Arbeloa....

it would be better if Borini plays at the center with Suarez on the flanks. in fact, i was really surprised to see Caroll moved to WHU because i thought Caroll suited the Graham role in Swansea. Suarez on the center is a waste. yes, his pace and movement can gives headache to defenders but against big and strong defenders, especially with a lot of experience, his threat can easily be nullified.

on Gerrard, i also agree that he should drop lower behind Allen and Sahin. he's the only person who i think can hold the ball among the 3 CMs Pool have, in addition to his quarterback passes.

Yup no matter how bleak the future looks we gotta look forward and hope for the best. This time around Allen is looking like a great signing while Borini is the opposite. Hit and miss

oh btw, watch MOTD analysis on the match. they pointed out Liverpool's flaw in midfield and Glen's tendency to become a winger instead of full back. if BR fix these flaws, i think Liverpool will be fine in the future.

Nope. Right after that, he was begging GH to sign him instead of signing Djibril Cisse. He was stuck in Mallorca and looking for a top club. GH spotted Ronnie first way before Fergie and Barcelona have their eyes on him but thought that he was overpriced as was the case with Cristiano Ronaldo.

Duff was clearly the better player than Kewell until Chelsea destroyed his career. We didnt move for him when he was nearing his last year of contract. Blackburn quickly renew his contract and quoted us $15 million.

We got the speedy Diouf (20m), Diao (5.5m) and Cheyrou (5m). Total is $30.5 million. Brilliant piece of business! If you calculate the inflation rate of that investment 10 years ago, it would be equivalent to more than $50 million today.

And last year we paid $35m (Caroll), $20m (Henderson), $20m (Downing), $7m (Adam)
Combined damage of $82million

Instead of $40m (Aguero), $15m (Ashley Young - he actually cost lesser than Downing, can you believe it?), $32m (Hazard).

We gotta admit. We are dumb in business. Our scouts are hopeless as well.

We have to move forward. No point reminiscing our past failures.

Signing a player has always been a gamble and ultimately it's the manager's responsibility to mold them into the team. Houllier and Benitez had their fair share of good and bad signings, but at least they had silverware to show to compensate for their poor signings.

The culmination of our poor transfer market dealings reached its apex last season with the signing of Henderson, Carroll, Downing and Adam. To add salt to injury, this failure has hinder our new American owners to splurge more cash in buying players. They are so cautious with transfer dealings that they are not end up coughing up extra dough to get the players. Yes, not even 1mil.

Unfortunately for the new boss, BR..he came in at the wrong time where our owners are now in play-safe mode to inject more cash to back him up.

The only way for him to recover the confidence of the board again is to start winning with the squad he has now and make the most of of his players.

This post has been edited by carloz28: Sep 3 2012, 03:23 PM

Hi there,
Have you taken into consideration the wages that the players would command?
Can't say I know a whole lot about that, but I read somewhere that Aguero's wages far exceeds Carroll's.

Would appreciate it if you could shed some light on this issue, thanks bro.

you lost me there.... back in that that its outrageous to fork that much money for mediocre players like them.. none of them ever come close to called decent signing