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English Clubs Liverpool FC- The Kop Talk 2012, Liverpool 0-2 Arsenal - 2nd defeat!

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carloz28
post Aug 19 2012, 04:51 PM

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Didn't watch the game yesterday due to 2 long haul flights in succession, but was shocked when i saw the result, Liverpool fell 3-0 to lowly West Brom?

Nothing new actually. It's not like we had a good start with Woy and KK in the past 2 seasons. Even Arrigo Sacchi had a rough start in his AC Milan managerial career and the rest is history.

Now let's see how the boys react and bump back from this loss. The next game will be critical and weighs heavily on the manager.

How did Joe Allen perform? What excuse we gave to the press this time?
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post Aug 20 2012, 02:09 AM

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QUOTE(hfi @ Aug 20 2012, 02:04 AM)
Did anyone see Nasri's tees at the end of the game ? Says "Eid Mubarak" which is selamat hari raya. haha class.
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Yellow carded for that. What a BS
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post Aug 21 2012, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(Petre @ Aug 21 2012, 10:17 AM)
everton's victory showed one thing - defense. get it right first. did we close down the opponent fast enough? WBA even taught us a lesson on tiki taka. really need time to adapt.

owen's been linked with everton btw. that will almost complete his journey. next he should do is to move to mancity
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Reminds me of old boss Rafa Benitez. He place great emphasis on defence before offense and particularly has an eye for CBs. Words of wisdom from Rafa, always build your team from the defense up.

Which probably explains why he hardly got it wrong when it comes to buying defenders, but not the same can be said with his gamble in the striker department during his tenure with Liverpool.

Rafa oh rafa.

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post Aug 21 2012, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(bitebug @ Aug 21 2012, 11:54 AM)
Looks like we are gonna miss out on Sahin lads. There goes another potentially great signing. Damn I miss Rafa's era. Those days where we could literally bring any players to Liverpool. If only he had the money back then
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No point reminiscing the past buddy. Have to look forward now.

To you guys who expect instant tiki taka football, i think it's advisable to lower down your expectations a bit. One of the main ingredients of tiki taka football is the midfield.

Look at our midfield at the moment. If I'm honest, Gerrard and co are not made for tiki taka, not especially when you throw in the Brit boys. British footballers are known for their tenacity rather than creativity. They are best suited to play high tempo football than fluid movement one touch football.

Arsenal is the only English team i know who advocate this style of play, under the great tutelage of Arsene Wenger, but still it don't win them trophies.

We need a good balance between tenacity and creativity, which is evident in all EPL winning teams.

More importantly, we need to have a winning mentality and never say die attitude to claw back from jaws of defeat, an attribute I have to yet to see in this Liverpool team yet.
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post Aug 21 2012, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(jimbet1337 @ Aug 21 2012, 03:38 PM)
Sorry but what kind of midfielder Joe Allen is? Is he a natural DM or AM?

It seems that we're lack of creative mid that can made through passes. The closest I recall was Aquaman but not worth reminiscing.

We should have one for Rodger's tiki-taka though. Regardless of age as long he can delivers. Youngsters can learn and play with him and be next one.

I don't understand why Joe Cole is still in the team.
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Tiki taka tiki taka tiki taka. This word has appear countless times in this thread since BR took over.

The team has yet to evolve into a single cohesive unit that can perform consistently again mid table teams, so it's a bit too far fetched to expect BR's team to play like one.

Totally understand the heartbreak and disappointment some of you guys are having now, but my advise is to sit back and relax, enjoy the ride, lower your expectations this season and trust me, you will find there's more sunshine during the day, the sky's bluer and your life will be a lot happier. laugh.gif
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post Aug 22 2012, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 22 2012, 05:26 PM)
Talk is easy, I want to see it on the field, there is too much talk about possession football, Swansea football.

As I said earlier post (last week or so), do not carry away, over-optimistic until 5-8 matches had played.

We may talk about relegation battle after 5-6 matches.
Sorry do not mean too pessimistic, until seeing some positives sign about the how the team play, it is too early to talk so much about possession football.
Be realistic, instead being in dreamland of possession football.  smile.gif
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Exactly. This whole tiki taka fantasy is frankly speaking....quite an unrealistic pipe dream to indulge in at the moment.

Fix the god damn midfield first.
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post Aug 23 2012, 08:40 PM

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Give me a good reason why Nuri Sahin wants to come to Liverpool at this very instance?

Let's be realistic, if you are a neutral professional football player and you are at the mother of all junctures in your career, which club would you move to? Arsenal or Liverpool?
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post Aug 25 2012, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(skeleton202 @ Aug 25 2012, 09:40 AM)
really sad.. we shud get him anyway,,, the price is just no-brainer
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It's a blessing in disguise. 10mil for another BRIT who hasn't had regular football in a year?

I'll pass anytime of the year.

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post Aug 25 2012, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Aug 25 2012, 01:51 PM)
charlie adam? lol
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And how much did Charlie Adam cost us back then?
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post Aug 25 2012, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(digilife @ Aug 25 2012, 02:28 PM)
Can Selangor FB buy Charlie Adam?
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He will be great here.
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U think Selangor FC stupid? Selangor FC is not an idiot. Last time they paid premium price to bring TONY COTTEE to the club(a BRIT)....and needless to say, he flopped 9 streets away, citing homesick and pitch conditions.

Selangor FC has learnt their lesson in a hard way.

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post Aug 25 2012, 08:18 PM

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QUOTE(skeleton202 @ Aug 25 2012, 07:57 PM)
the only player tat i really wan to watch is ossama compare to the other signing... his youtube video looks like he's better than hazard
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Charlie Adam's youtube video shows he's better than Baggio and Mattheus combined together.





It's YOUTUBE bro.
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post Aug 26 2012, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(jimbet1337 @ Aug 26 2012, 05:00 AM)
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"Next week, we will sign 3 more players" - BR 

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Looking at our current form, I think I will probably last for another 3 months tops...
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post Aug 27 2012, 06:38 AM

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1 point against the EPL champions? I'll take it.

Hope we don't produce a lacklustre performance in the NEXT game, which seems to be the norm lately.
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post Aug 27 2012, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Aug 27 2012, 11:13 AM)
tho to be fair...after last week's humiliation by wba...this is a game that most ppl expected LFC to lose...so look at it as 1 point gained tongue.gif
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Liverpool has the tendency to raise their game again but always fall short against weaker teams in the following week!

Hope we don't see this next week!
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post Aug 29 2012, 06:50 PM

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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Aug 29 2012, 05:13 PM)
Since we are talking about money, I cant help but to tell you guys how much I have to endure as a Liverpool fan when my friends supporting Scum United laughing at us for spending $35 million on Andy Caroll when Sergio Aguero just cost 5 million more on $40 million.

No more stupid spending. It's not just heartbreaking, it's embarrassing. We are like rookie in business dealings. Easily get conned.
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Let us all have a moment of reflection and spend a minute to read this Great article from Paul Tomkins.

A little excerpt from the article;

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Then there’s the fact that he’s English. This means that he will qualify for home-grown quotas, and it also means that he understands the league; it doesn’t mean he will definitely adapt to the pressure at Liverpool, or the style of play, but it does mean that he won’t be shellshocked at the pace or physicality of the game. If anything, he is perfect for it.


Andy Carroll: Is he Worth It?

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post Aug 31 2012, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(ahaksz28 @ Aug 31 2012, 12:09 PM)
I'm quite surprise Liverpool loan out Carroll. Who gonna replace him then right now?
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NOT surpising at all. The decision to loan out Carroll is more likely due to financial issues rather than tactical as what was told by BR. Carroll's a good squad player to have, but let's face it, FSG does not have oil and natural gas in their backyard, we can't afford to have 35mil man on the bench chewing gums on regualr basis.

Having said that, I'm glad BR has the balls to cut off these so called high profiled players whom he think will not fit into his long term plans rather than sticking to them on groundless faith. Or maybe BR thinks Andy Carroll does not cut it, who knows?

Good job BR. Now please get rid of the man whose freekick and corners worth 10mil, C. Adam.

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post Sep 1 2012, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(Rotuham @ Sep 1 2012, 01:55 PM)
I like the look of the new squad.Less british players thumbup.gif

Downing to be left back made me lol laugh.gif
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LOL...+1

Your favorite player is the only remnant left from King Kenny's buy British policy which failed spectacularly. Glad that error prone Jay Spearing is gone as well.

He's a nice bloke and all but I always thought they gave him a place in the team more likely due to his roots and not his skills. A pat on the back for BR.

Going to reserve my judgements on Joe Allen. So far he's doing well and so did Charlie Adam and Hendo in their first few games! Hope Allen's going to perform consistently over the season or else.....
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post Sep 2 2012, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(Petre @ Sep 2 2012, 12:02 PM)
i thought players are more expensive in january transfer window?  hmm.gif
anyway imo, why should we NOT spend a little bit extra if it helps our cause? i dont think there is any benefit in us doing that. in saving our face, we effectively lose out on a player that could be our problem solver. if its me, even though i dont like it, i'll pay for dempsey. extra 1-2m? its not extra 10-20m for God's sake. what goes around comes around. we dont need to be sooooo calculative with such small clubs. they want the 1m extra? let them have it. in the end they might get relegated who knows. now thats payback
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If only Clint Dempsey is a Brit. FSG would have put Melwood into a mortgage to get him.
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post Sep 2 2012, 08:31 PM

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QUOTE(bitebug @ Sep 2 2012, 08:07 PM)
Really sad bench we have. If one or two got injured before January, we're in trouble.
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Sad bench? Think again. We got 36 mil worth of firepower on the bench. One of the highest in epl second only to city.
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post Sep 2 2012, 09:30 PM

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For Shanks sake, come on guys...

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