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JMFranklin
post Mar 15 2007, 03:11 AM

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QUOTE(kockroach @ Mar 15 2007, 01:49 AM)
I applied through Internet and my application status still showing shortlisted. I think they forgot to called me though. Do you have any idea what email should I send them, cause I've sent quite a few yet still no reply.
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If you have sent them emails and receive no reply from them, I think you have to wait.
I extracted this FAQ from Shell website. If your status is still showing "shortlisted", I think it's still OK.

Q. How do I find out the status of my application?
A. As a first point of call, please check the 'Application status' page. To do this, log on to 'My Application' and click on 'Application Status'. Please see below an explanation of the statuses you will see throughout the application and hire process.


New Application - We have successfully received your application.
Application Under Review - Your application is currently being considered by a member of our team.
Application Incomplete - This status is only applicable for our Graduate & Early Careers candidates - if you are viewing this status after having submitted an application for an experienced vacancy, this unfortunately indicates that your application has been unsuccessful on this occasion.
Shortlisted - You have been selected to attend an interview.
Final Assessment - Following a successful interview, we are further considering your application.
Offer - Your application is being considered for an offer of employment.
Hired - You have successfully passed all offer conditions and are awaiting start date.
Reject - Unfortunately, your application has been unsuccessful on this occasion.


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post Mar 15 2007, 03:38 AM

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QUOTE(JMFranklin @ Mar 15 2007, 03:11 AM)
If you have sent them emails and receive no reply from them, I think you have to wait.
I extracted this FAQ from Shell website. If your status is still showing "shortlisted", I think it's still OK.

Q. How do I find out the status of my application?
A. As a first point of call, please check the 'Application status' page. To do this, log on to 'My Application' and click on 'Application Status'. Please see below an explanation of the statuses you will see throughout the application and hire process.
New Application - We have successfully received your application.
Application Under Review - Your application is currently being considered by a member of our team.
Application Incomplete - This status is only applicable for our Graduate & Early Careers candidates - if you are viewing this status after having submitted an application for an experienced vacancy, this unfortunately indicates that your application has been unsuccessful on this occasion.
Shortlisted - You have been selected to attend an interview.
Final Assessment - Following a successful interview, we are further considering your application.
Offer - Your application is being considered for an offer of employment.
Hired - You have successfully passed all offer conditions and are awaiting start date.
Reject - Unfortunately, your application has been unsuccessful on this occasion.
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post Mar 16 2007, 09:02 AM

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QUOTE(naziaf @ Mar 13 2007, 03:37 PM)
I have some questions/ need advice:

3) If I've already started at a new job, let's say the salary is like RM4500, will Shell be willing to pay RM4500 for a new hire coming through SRD/graduate recruitment?
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Check my PM out. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Mar 19 2007, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(unholy @ Mar 16 2007, 09:02 AM)
Check my PM out.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Actually, I would like to know as well. Can you pm me?

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post Mar 20 2007, 09:13 PM

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Just joined yesterday, till today still no pc use... Hohoho.. anyone work at Wisma 1, 2nd floor here?
KeNNy
post Mar 21 2007, 12:11 AM

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LoL tongue.gif I've just realised there're more SITI people in lowyat that meets the eye.

Dino, which Dino if it's not Deno from H/W Eng? blink.gif

Pennywise, are you Penny - the one we working together from RCO? rolleyes.gif

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post Mar 21 2007, 12:27 AM

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QUOTE(littleway @ Mar 20 2007, 09:13 PM)
Just joined yesterday, till today still no pc use... Hohoho.. anyone work at Wisma 1, 2nd floor here?
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mana u.....show urself infadel....hahahaha.....my team is right after entering the gate 1.....hehehee.....

QUOTE(KeNNy @ Mar 21 2007, 12:11 AM)
LoL tongue.gif I've just realised there're more SITI people in lowyat that meets the eye.

Dino, which Dino if it's not Deno from H/W Eng?  blink.gif

Pennywise, are you Penny - the one we working together from RCO?  rolleyes.gif
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this dino....use dino at everywhere online....but not in real life....
huge dif in the real life....hahaha.....hint.....still close to that deno's seat...biggrin.gif
another hint......not same team as deno....tongue.gif

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Pennywise
post Mar 21 2007, 01:07 AM

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Nope, I am not from RCO. I am actually quite near littleway here and dinozilla I think but then no intentions to find out who they are or let them find out who I am.

Hahaha... I know a lot of Shell ppl visit lowyat forum frequently.
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post Mar 21 2007, 01:53 AM

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QUOTE(JMFranklin @ Mar 14 2007, 06:43 PM)
Which division are they going to adopt the outsourcing?
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not just SITI but the whole GITI

SITI = SHELL IT Infrastructure

GITI = Global IT Infrastructure



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post Mar 21 2007, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(dinozilla @ Mar 21 2007, 12:27 AM)
mana u.....show urself infadel....hahahaha.....my team is right after entering the gate 1.....hehehee.....
this dino....use dino at everywhere online....but not in real life....
huge dif in the real life....hahaha.....hint.....still close to that deno's seat...biggrin.gif
another hint......not same team as deno....tongue.gif
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Is it near the pantry? hmm.gif
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post Mar 21 2007, 08:35 PM

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QUOTE(littleway @ Mar 21 2007, 08:17 PM)
Is it near the pantry? hmm.gif
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quite close...quite close... tongue.gif
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post Mar 22 2007, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(kevler @ Mar 21 2007, 01:53 AM)
not just SITI but the whole GITI

SITI = SHELL IT Infrastructure

GITI = Global IT Infrastructure
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That's partially correct - SITI is Shell IT International and is a registered company. GITI is a global organisation as far as I know.

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post Mar 22 2007, 11:51 PM

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hahaha....
hard to say de....
the scope will be more of definition term than group term...
u ll need to see the chart to understand (P&C applied?)
anyway.....this outsource topic kinda OOT here......
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post Mar 23 2007, 02:44 AM

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By the way there is 4 SITI companies. Ltd in UK, BV in NL, Inc in US and Sdn Bhd in MY.


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post Mar 26 2007, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(dinozilla @ Mar 22 2007, 11:51 PM)
hahaha....
hard to say de....
the scope will be more of definition term than group term...
u ll need to see the chart to understand (P&C applied?)
anyway.....this outsource topic kinda OOT here......
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ok ...*OFFTOPIC*

The reason behind outsoucing is for the company (Shell) to concentrate on their core business and outsource non-core function which would be done more cost effective with higher efficiency. It is expected that some cost savings are realized in the long run and it is easier for the Company to only monitor the performance of the outsourced party through Service Level Agreement (SLA).

In most cases, it is almost like saying that after the outsourcing has been decided, the company do not want to retain the existing staff in the related services and as such would transfer them to the outsourced company. Therefore there would normally be a deal or arrangement that would be made between the outsourced party and the company to take whatever staff involved in the existing operations. Under normal practice, the staff who are required to be transferred should be offered similar terms if not better than the terms currently enjoyed. In many cases there will be few staff who would not want to accept the transfer but it is not known what kind of work they would do if the choose to stay in their existing company.

There are many success stories about outsourcing, i.e both companies, achieve win-win. However in other cases, the service tend to deteriorate and the company decide to terminate the contract and take back all the staff.

Therefore my advise is if you cannot choose to stay in Shell, then get the union to negotiate for a really good deal before signing any offer. It is common that the allowances previously enjoyed in Shell may not be offered by the new company, but in exchange the staff would receive higher salary like, say 25% to 50% or increase depending on which allowance is taken away. In any case it is best to negotiate thoroughly before agreeing to the transfer. Once you accept, then you are no longer Shell staff.


moral = IT is SHELL non-core business even they built infrastructure in SITI SHELL CYBERJAYA.SHELL always remain as oil&gas company, not IT company like Google or HP. Thus we have to accept their decision for outsourcing thingy.

SHELL only give permanent status to management ppl , oil&gas engineer, reservoir engineer , geophysicist engineer , geologist engineer and so forth .

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post Mar 26 2007, 12:08 PM

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What is interesting to me is that from reading and asking around, Shell seems to be the first big energy company that is going this route. ExxonMobil, BP, etc have not done IT outsourcing in a big way and are probably looking at Shell to see how good/bad this turns out to be.

IT is huge in oil and gas, no question about it. From trading to exploration to downstream. Screwing up is not an option, Shell already has problems recently in Sakhalin, Nigeria and with their reserves. I'm sure this outsourcing thing is going to be looked at very carefully.

Still, there's no way to know how it'll be on the individual level.

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I believe outsourcing will be here to stay as it is a good reason for cost saving...Imagine, the company just need to pay a sum of amount and vendors will take care of everything. So, the company doesn't need to worry about staff union lah, staff benefits lah, staff turn around lah, and etc. If the appointed vendors cannot perform just appoint another vendors for the job..Petronas too already outsourced its IT department to iPerintis and the result seems quite promising
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Well actually BP has most of it's IT already oursourced.

And I don't belive lower cost is a main factor - especially seeing the net profits of Shell.


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post Mar 27 2007, 10:11 AM

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QUOTE(Polishman @ Mar 26 2007, 06:48 PM)
Well actually BP has most of it's IT already oursourced.

And I don't belive lower cost is a main factor - especially seeing the net profits of Shell.
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this is just like.....

Proton is making car.....

does it makes it own aircond....
no....sub to other......
samething here wat.....
Shell main business is O&G
IT....not core stuff.....if some1 else can handle well with Q
y not.....
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i think if not mistaken, BP's IT hub is in Singapore....

QUOTE(Polishman @ Mar 26 2007, 06:48 PM)
Well actually BP has most of it's IT already oursourced.

And I don't belive lower cost is a main factor - especially seeing the net profits of Shell.
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