suddenly ran into this in google...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandarin_Chinese_profanity

remember my college friend from china keeps screaming this cuss at people...肏你妈的屄.... never heard it from locals before... you have to have the chinese accent to make it work...

rather interesting too...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diu_%28Cantonese%29

didn't know it had a character for this...
屌

and leading it further... japanese profanity... suddenly attended profanity class today
http://funkyblegug.blogspot.com/2006/04/wi...-profanity.html

This post has been edited by butthead: Aug 1 2012, 02:22 PM

to be honest, how frequent you can use ur TT bike for ride.

it's too precious to ride on malaysia holes everywhere road here...

once a hot chic Triathlete told me, why use TT bike? it's not allowed in some races. plus, if too light, cant join also. She said best still is a roadbike... can masuk any races...

BMC vs LOOK TT bike.. which one better?

wait i tonight post LOOK TT pokka dotted design here to counter BMC...

the non UCI legal shiv for tri events...

or this... if the event allows...The famous and now rare Zipp 2002


that or the Cervelo P5 for most other events...

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Added on August 1, 2012, 2:33 pmit's purely a competition bike ma... not for daily use...you train on a normal roadie and switch up to the race rig jus to get accustomed to it before race weekend...

that is how this shit works.. if you have the dough...

TT bikes are generally very stable and mild in handling... not agile like our road bikes...so, hitting rough roads are not too bad unless you are dealing with very bumpy roads and deep potholes... most people are more terrified of pure TT bikes (disc wheel with deep dish up front) hitting heavy cross winds... possible to get blown off your line by heavy gusts of wind... and much like how Andy Schleck hit the deck and broke his pelvis...

in my view... i need at least 3 bikes...

1) training roadie, with tough wheels and tougher tyres
2) race weekend roadie, super light and no common sense...
3) a TT bike.. even if i dun TT... just for the fun of owning one..

This post has been edited by butthead: Aug 1 2012, 02:39 PM

Sorry my Question is actually about Fulcrum zero two way fit and Fulcrum 1 two way fit.

Is the fulcrum zero hub better than the ksyriums elite or sl?

3 bikes, that's the ultimate cyclist who achieve his/her top status in cycling world????????

just like a rich man journey,

1st seek money,
got money seek power,
got money and power seek status,
got money and power and status seek for peaceful in mind (where religous come in)

the same applies... only the weight is slightly heavier... another 20 grams more than non 2-way fit...

whether the fulcrum zero hub is better than ksyriums.. hard to tell... the question is from which point, aerodynamically? rolling resistance? durability?

for me... mavic has been around long enough making wheels... and counting that fulcrum is campy backed, they still lack the dedication of mavic for a simillar period of time...so, experience and knowledge is +1 for mavic...

if you look at people's recommendation... the Mavic Elite has been topping a lot of people's choices for their value for money... not so for SL as you get marginal gains only as the main selling point is zicral spokes... 7075 aluminum... and elite is cheaper to reaplce spokes as well..

point is, you can't buy a wheel looking at individual components.. it is an overall thing which is why they like to call wheels as systems nowadays... mavic went to the point of even getting vittoria to produce tires to match the characteristics of their wheels...

the only complaint in fulcrum is spoke replacements costs a bomb..a whopping RM40 bucks here.. for KL.. .Mavic is getting less and less as there are not as many dealers, while fulcrum is gaining leverage...sort of 50/50 market at those levels for now...

if you were to place the ksyrium elite in direct comparison with R0? with the assumption that there is a mavic shop accessible to you... i will take mavic for 2 reasons.. proven reliability and the costs is lower than a set of R0s... performance wise.. +-5 percent in between both wheels...

dun need to be ultimate cyclist to do that (jus need money).. it is just a show that you are in bikegeekdom...

that is jus riding competitively alone...

in overall, you can put on somemore,

1) 1 or 2 offroad bike (XC, DH rig) or 3 if you want an all mountain in as well...
2) 1 commuter / touring bike..
3) 1 single speed for strolling around the park... 2 if you have your other half

that makes 6 bikes easy... then if you are into collections... DIE!!!

i dun agree with your statement.. especially last one...

1st seek money, (how?, back stab people on your way up the corporate ladder, make enemies ondaway)
got money seek power, (back stab more people to get power, make more enemies same time)
got money and power seek status, (polish people shoe lap lap link, those who are not already enemies)
got money and power and status seek for peaceful in mind (where religous come in) WRONG!!! Religion does nothing
peace of mind = FBI WITNESS PROTECTION UNIT SECURITY.. with so much enemies... they will soon come at you one way or another, set house on fire, take 3 nuts out of your car wheels, plant bomb in your car, put drugs in your noodles, cut your dog up and cook soup, leak your home or prostitute sex video, rape your daughters and sell them as prostitutes, torture your family in front of you and ultimately make you watch them die, ..

if you want inner peace??? doubt religion can help in any way...so, macam mana buat? you got money ma.. spend like nobodies business laarrrr... buy fancy cars, eat fancy shit, wear fancy clothes... kaw fancy chicks... slam high class prosties... and... buy all expensive bikes and stuff that people like us can dream off... dun let that inner guilt of yours get a chance to pop up it's ugly head and screw with your mind, throw money at it every change oyu get (got watch the show "when heaven burns" on astro WLT, you know the shit i am saying is true... they even made a movie out of it... TVB somemore, you know...the old man in the wheel chair @ age 103 still can think this shit up)

that is why... rich people always do stupid and dirty things and they use excuse like they are very stressed in a dog eat dog world...f@ck stress, and dogs don't eat dogs (they might eat hot dogs)... they are just trying to calm their inner guilt by slamming that pretty girl you so wanted to be your first love...

so, my theory... cannot play the game... dun ever start it... quiet and easy life is the best... you don't have all the shit...but you don't need to worry & deal with a lot of shit as well...jus dun complain so much...

i have a doctorine in evilogy... dun pray pray with me wei... this shitz is my like my backyard

the only 2 people in this world who this does not apply might be warren buffet and bill gates.. crazy asses trying to give away 99% of their inheritance... but then again... their inner guilt might have made them realize their wrong doings in the past and they are now doing what they need to do to quiet down their inner guilt... hmmmm... intriguing

on the reverse.. the nut job steve jobs is like a fat kid in a candy store trying to hog every darn thing and piss every person off (me, included)... so, he die young.. maybe steve and warren takut they follow jobs path and now give away all the moolah to stay alive... no wonder, die die want to splurge money out fast fast lar... got ulterior motive wan...

i must go take up a doctorine in psychology now... then i can go and work as master strategists in scuderia ferrari and mind f@ck everyone... mwahahahahhaa

This post has been edited by butthead: Aug 1 2012, 04:30 PM

Just saw this post! No way I'm getting all those stuffs...haha. I'm upgrading my lungs capacity and endurance
level...stuffs can go queue behind lor..

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Added on August 1, 2012, 6:47 pmAnd interesting read on carbon wheels..

http://www.cyclingtips.com.au/2012/08/wher...arbon-wheelset/

This post has been edited by mrjgx: Aug 1 2012, 06:47 PM

I see thanks for the advice. My bike shop carries both Mavic and Fulcrum( together with Campagnolo wheel). I asked before once what they suggested me mavic (i din mention fulcrum cos i did not know that brand that time) but ultimately they told me to stick to what i have first.

I am trying hard to stick and use what i have currently have. I always said to myself i am not qualified to buy more high end stuff as I am not skillful enough to exploit it. Had to admit the temptation to upgrade is very high.

Was thinking to change to sram rival or force as i feel more comfy for my tiny hand than shima 105 but the labour cost really chop ppl head here in aussie. Maybe i should ride more with watever i have now and jump the gun to sram red 2012 straight away

This post has been edited by minizian: Aug 1 2012, 08:06 PM

Hi experts and newbies, I am new to cycling in urban area. I am looking for a bike that is suitable to travel long distance. I am planning to travel from places to places such as example: KL to Pulau Pinang by bicycle. My budget is under 2k. I plan to get the TREK hybrid 8.3 DS. Do you think it is suitable? Any other suggestion? The price of the 8.3 DS is 2060 ringgit. Do you think it is worth it?

This post has been edited by shienchin: Aug 1 2012, 09:42 PM

what lar.. you asked for upgrades mar...

wheels are the most easy to damage in a crash... i suggest that you listen to the bike shop until you can ride confidently...

frankly... groupset is very personal biased.. so, go with what you like... although not as easy to mess up in the event of a crash... scratches to the shifter and RD is a common thing.. you've got to think this through the same as your wheel..

as for SRAM Red 2012... i would tell you to stay away from it unless you are looking to invest into a sub RM15k bike sometime soon... SRAM Force would be the highest i recommend you to go... and personally on a value for money basis.. even the rival or apex would have done good enough as they function and feel almost the same from top to bottom of the lineup...

i won't say TREK is not the suitable choice... but flatbar is definitely the way to for touring...

another good and cheap example is the Polygon F100.. a hybrid based on a road frame rather than MTB on the TREK...and should fit within your budget.. it has the same triple crank - 24 speed setup but a rigid fork instead of suspension for (more on this later)

http://id.polygoncycle.com/index.php?pgid=...eid=326&par=179

with touring comes the question of mounting panier racks.. and depending on how many bags you intend to mount up front and rear... having a suspension fork is actually not he most recommended since after loading the front of the bike up.. the weight might have taken up most if not all of the fork travel leaving it a pointless thing to have and you have to drag the extra dead weight of the fork along as you ride...

then, also the question of disc brakes...with touring setups... riders tend to choose parts that are most easily sourced and repair even in remote locations.. normal caliper brakes on the polygon should be more easy to repair in case you have a brake failure of any sort on the trek...

most importantly is that it is will be a tough bike as you will be on the road without much support... your dependency on your bike will be very high and you can't be expecting it to fail in times like that.

dude..don't quickly jumpe and buy the fulcrum or whatever high end wheels available in the market. the difference is very marginal..

I agree if you would like to feel a difference in your bike upgrade, apart from a better carbon frame..wheels is the 2nd option. but trust me, it won't make you a better cyclist in terms of speed, or etc. you might gain extra 2-3kmh on your avg speed..but that's all.

as from my experience, i don't find my climbing ability suddenly increase after changing to a much stiffer wheels (from FR Comp to FR0)..nor did I found it easier to climb with.once you upgrade, it is very marginal in terms of performance you expected to have before you purchase.

just my 2 cents.

Thanks for replying! I really appreciate your advice. It cleared quite a number of questions in my mind.

Do you still have any other recommendation beside Polygon F100? I checked out the website you gave me. It seems that it comes only with red (2012) and blue(2011). I know ... color has nothing to do with performance but somehow for me I wanna get the same color as my previous bike (silver, white matte). It is just that I hate colorful color that attract attention. I saw the Helios F300. I like the color but somehow I am not sure whether the parts are easy to find like you mentioned and what made it more expensive than F100. What do you think?

Besides that, do you know any good bicycle shop for customization around Petaling Jaya? Need changes for my friends' bike parts.

Sorry for asking so many questions

This post has been edited by shienchin: Aug 2 2012, 06:39 AM

haha 2~ 3kph is actually a lot,
I would see that 2 ~ 3 kph comes from

your current avg speed - your new speed

25 - 28 = you can easily train this
27 - 30 = same goes here
30 - 33 = hmm sounds not bad
33 - 36 = it's almost time for a new tire
36 - 39 = looks like i really need a tire
39 - 42 = I bought my tire
42 - 45 = wow this tire is ****ing cheap
45 + = u dont need a tire..

lol above is just for trolling purposes..

haha.. from poison needle to poison antidote... you really know how to follow the wind...

it's all in the mind.. it's all in the mind...

this new set of racing quattro's are only a tad over RM1k per pair... a bit un-expected and shocked me a bit when i saw the price...
http://www.fulcrumwheels.com/en/news/2012/.../racing-quattro

last year's F100 is silver and white (the one i saw and someone selling in BBS a couple months ago for RM1.3k / 3month usage).. not sure if rodalink still has the old stock...



The F300 is just an upper grade helios flatbar series.. the good thing with it is that it comes with 27-speed, but both 9 and 8 speed drivetrain is on their way out of the market anyways... so, i guess if upgrade is a thing in the roadmap.. it doesn't matter... you won't get much cassette selection if you want to get out of the 11-25T anyways...

i've seen pedalspot fixing a merida flatbar for their customer... not sure if it is a Merida stock flatbar or one they converted with SRAM MTB parts...not sure about the price either... you can call them up to ask before you go over...

as for PJ bike shops... depends on what you want to do... more mid range shops would be pedalspot and ksh in ttdi.. there is also bikepro, joo ngan son, bikeplus, GH, godzilla, KH Cycle within driving distance in PJ...

apa u cakap? the reality is this...

25 - 28 = you can easily train this
27 - 30 = same goes here
30 - 33 = give up, doppage
33 - 36 = doppage
36 - 39 = doppage
39 - 42 = doppage
42 - 45 = doppage
45 + = Grubber Assist, like cancellara...

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Added on August 2, 2012, 9:28 am
The other Armstrong repeats Olympic time trial gold

great news for the new K-Edge chain catcher... not so good news for me expecting it to be cheap


Wiggins win and Cancellara loses in deep pain.. sad...



woooo... berner oversize pulleys...

This post has been edited by butthead: Aug 2 2012, 09:33 AM

Wow! Thanks for all of the information! I checked out Bicycle Buy and Sell website and found this:
http://bicyclebuysell.com/view_item.php?id=165734
Do you think it is a bargain? I am not sure about the parts whether or not it is okay for the price cuz I don't know how to judge. What do you think?

those pictures don't tell much... if the bike is in good condition... wheels don't look banged up and parts don't look worn out.. then RM750 is really a good value since the new bike itself is around RM1.6k - RM1.8k if i am not wrong... best if the frame does not have serious paint chips and damage indicating any crash...

as far as touring is concerned... a new bike is not necessary since it is unavoidable that you will get it banged up sooner or later.. at least you don't have to deal with the heart break of causing damage to your new bike

the parts on a touring bike is a take it or leave it thing with touring bikes... the whole point of a touring setup is to have a bike that is tough and can endure rough terrain.. and if things fail.. parts are easy to locate at bike shops of remote area...

no point having the best and lightest wheel in the world utilizing special straight pull spokes when it cannot be replaced at a bike shop somewhere in thailand (sorry, bad geographical knowledge) for instance...

but that being said.. be prepped with a bit of money to spend on replacing some parts on the bike... at least chain, cables and tyres might be a valid concern no matter how good the previous owner takes care of the bike...

for me... my definition of a touring bike

1) non-composites frame (a must), steel is preferable for a softer ride, aluminum is acceptable as well and titanium if you are not scared of it getting stolen
2) comfortable upright frame geometry (tall head tube) so it's easier on your back for long hours in the saddle
3) 32 or 36 spoke wheels laced 3-cross to box type rims (mavic open pro) for maximum abuse
4) lots of clearance on the fork, seat and chain stays in case wheels get stuck full of mud
5) most important of all... a well padded big fat saddle..

This post has been edited by butthead: Aug 2 2012, 06:50 PM

Yea.. you got a point. I will check on the frame whether if there is any serious damage or not. Well I just wanna make sure things are going smooth enough for myself to work on cuz I need to help my friends on their bike too. I may not be experienced but I really wanna start this tour with my friends. It is some kind of achievement and I think the experience rewarded will be great.

Well talking about Thailand... hope that someday I can have a tour in there.

And again thank you so much for your advice Mr.Butthead!!!

Can I PM you if I need more advice?

i jus come here and blow water only... so, it's an equal honor that you trust the words that i type onto the page

you might as well start looking at panier racks as well... jus so, you can gauge if the bike frame is fitting for a panier rack.. which it should since hianboy manage to stick a panier rack onto his helios as well which should be theoratically the same frame as the F100...

sure, you can PM me.. but be warned that i am a lousy PMer cos i don't look at the top right of the page and neither do i check my emails...

LOL

I will check out the pannier rack after I get the bike.

Hahaha... No problem man. I can wait for PM.

This post has been edited by shienchin: Aug 2 2012, 08:02 PM

Thanks for the word guys, really appreciate it. My first ride after my last accident will be on this satruday. Anxious about it . Going to ride with a fellow malaysian there. For sure i am going to be equip with arm/knee/ass protection.

Today went to my lbs and bought Pearl Izumi arm warmer, its XS but it still feel big on my small arm/wrist

Saw one of the customer collecting his custom build pinarello paris sdg. The shop gave him complemetry red wine to thanks him for the purchase

This is teh actual bike pic taken from my lbs website



This post has been edited by minizian: Aug 2 2012, 08:41 PM