tat's call the bike that can potentially land you in hot water...but look at it the other way...

you got no reasons to upgrade the brakes because there is nothing better to upgrade to... one less potential upgrade.. and no seatpost upgrade as well... that is 2 good reasons... stupid but true...

ini dia the chart.. but comparing against madone 6.9ssl lar.. and no foil yet...



i believe spez played with the numbers of their major rivals a bit... might have lowered them a bit to make themselves more hansem...

This post has been edited by butthead: Nov 6 2012, 04:15 PM

Whattt? Madone is way too low in terms of its stiffness, but Trek bikes are usually more expensive!

The Specialized dealer offer me a 2012 Venge instead but I say no as I'm leaning more towards the 2013 SL4.

Hopefully I will not get the Foil 40..priced lower than SL4 for sure.

This post has been edited by mrjgx: Nov 6 2012, 04:26 PM

i believe the trek is not that bad hence i said spez might have manipulated the data a bit to show off their direct competitors which is the big brands like scott and trek... i don't think i can feel any difference between either bikes if i were given them... that's a mighty big number to be off by anyways..

what do we know with those number to begin with anyways... it might already be damn high compared to bikes we own currently...

the trek does have a ride tuned seat mass which flexes as forces gets sent up to the seat mass making it slightly comfortable without compromising parts of the frame where power transfer is critical...and don't forget... most importantly, the trek has a BB90 bottom bracket which is 90mm wide one while the spez has a BB30 bottom bracket that is 68mm wide.... that should not have made the bb stiffness so bad that it is on the other end of the scale going against the spez...there is simply something a bit wrong with the chart... no matter how bad the layup of the trek is... it should not be the weakest among the bb stiffness test with it's wider bb... i doubt the data a bit...

the trek madone 7 is gonna costs a sweet 5k usd while the s-works tarmac sl4 is gonna cost a less hurting 3.5k usd... even the madone six is still standing at a nice 4.5k ....

This post has been edited by butthead: Nov 6 2012, 05:21 PM

don't forget, u buy trek u get free 1 year supply of dope. that's a big plus!

wei... you remember one part forgot the other...

and it's delivered by USPS right to your door step...

i think local trek dealer will ask for their customers' preference. maybe they'll provide 1 month on-site delivery, like orang kampung on kapchai will meet up with u somewhere in broga or langat or bentong or fraser etc for u to shoot up. right? value added service.

yeah wor... orang kampung is more discreet... but no difference lar... inject at home or on site also sure got the same effect one... why let your riding buddies know... after they strip you of your qualifications ler...

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Added on November 6, 2012, 5:30 pmdrugs galore...






This post has been edited by butthead: Nov 6 2012, 05:30 PM

and the upgraded cera...

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Added on November 6, 2012, 5:38 pmthat is to make your buttocks firm up and shiny lar...

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Added on November 6, 2012, 5:53 pmyou'll be the envy of your friends


bet you can't take your eyes off the screen now can you

This post has been edited by butthead: Nov 6 2012, 05:55 PM

how come i get the feeling that this thread is not talking about cycling anymore???

thanks to the leadership of vin_ann and miao... we are spiraling out of control

This post has been edited by butthead: Nov 6 2012, 05:54 PM

Wait isnt the look 6 series are made in france? No? isnt 675 are 2nd higher in look range?


Hmm i wonder if the same riding feel on madone 7 can be felt on madone 5..

Just wondering if spez are popular in KL? How much does Tarmac sl4 cost in KL, I may open up my choices for Spez but the Spez dealer here tend to ignore me when i go there to buy some small part and look at their bikes

5k usd for the frameset or complete bike? I am assuming that is for frameset.

why me? i only wanna sell bikes n stuff

because you always recommend epo

spez quite ok la here in KL. not sure about SL4, but sworks SL3 was rm8.8k before discount. maybe sworks SL4 around 9k+ before discount. ignore how? try asking some questions, tell them u r interested. if they still ignore u, look for something else elsewhere. if they ignore u now, they might ignore u later too (after-sales).

This post has been edited by miaopurr: Nov 6 2012, 09:18 PM

Booked ma bike from Bike Pro, PJ but till now still no response CAN'T WAIT!!!!

That the price of complete bike with sram red for both sworks SL3 and SL4 current year 2012 model or just previous year unsold model?

The price quoted here are wayyy high than the price in KL. I am seeing it. Can you see if its the same stuff in kl?

This website is aussie version of bbs.

List of aussie market Spez tarmac and price list at my area

I got the feeling its the complete bike as Time RXRS in uncle tan shop is 3 time cheaper than what my lbs here offered with same spec (that the promo price too)

They are quite accomodating when i buy small parts for my emc eg side bottle cage (my lbs don have the one in my budget) and even willing to custom order shimano prescription clip from shimano australia. Just i don like the part is when i go see the bikes section no one seem to bother me, not even "you need any help?" question

What happend bro?

This post has been edited by minizian: Nov 6 2012, 11:31 PM

The person forgot to contact me kot, he said by today will call me, but nevermind, can't wait d, maybe tomorrow i drop by buy some accessories like helmet and shorts then I ask hehe

Lol chill lar bro

haha, i know, after I get it I might think back, why la so kancheong but it's like when u have everything ready, wanna buy d then suddenly, kena tunggu hahaha. See la, maybe I go run instead to forget everything and relax hehe

Thx for the info. I have pretty much narrow down my scope hunting to SL4 only. I believe I will be satisfied even for the mid pro compact version. I am no pro to get the sworks monstrous stiffness, just a higher end groupset alongside the sl4 will be good enough.btw, when you are bike hunting and you couldn't find the right frame size, would it best to get a bit of a bigger size frame or a smaller one?