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post Jul 26 2012, 10:12 AM, updated 12y ago

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WELCOME TO LOWYAT.NET PROTON WIRA CLUB (LYN-PWC)

TOTAL : 211 peeps Updated Since 17/5/14 by MXsteven

NOTE: Useful TIPS links for Troubleshooting had been updated below!

Wira 1.3 [4G13]
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Wira 1.5 [4G15/4G91]
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Wira 1.6 [4G92]
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Wira 1.6 V6 [6A10]
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Wira 1.8 [4G93]
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Wira 1.8T [4G93T]
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Wira 2.0T [4G63T]
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Wira 2.0 Diesel [4D68]
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Whose name is not in the list, kindly PM ur model or just post in the thread.
And who ever sold ur wira, kindly pm me to remove ur name from the list. Thanks.

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For who want to read back the previous version history can click link below:

Version I
Version II
Version III
Version IV
Version V
Version VI
Version VII
Version VIII
Version IX
Version X
Version XI
Version XII
Version XIII
Version XIV
Version XV
Version XVI
Version XVII
Version XVIII
Version XIX
Version XX
Version XXI
Version XXII
Version XXIII
Version XXIV
Version XXV
Version XXVI
Version XXVII

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LYN-PWC 1st TT [Mission Completed]

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LYN-PWC 2nd TT [Mission Completed]

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HotSpring TT @ Bentong[Mission Completed]

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JenHuang Inviting LYN-PWC member to his Birthday Party.[Mission Completed]
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LYN-PWC 3rd TT [Mission Completed]
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USEFUL TIPS REFERENCES please click the spoiler below
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post Jul 26 2012, 10:13 AM

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Nope.... im 1st tongue.gif.....

kene thread lock by admin edi cannot copy the BB code.... demmm have to recreate lols.... see 1 hour no one create the thread so i create the thread lor..

afoz jgn mare yerrr

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post Jul 26 2012, 10:20 AM

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1st? lol
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post Jul 26 2012, 10:30 AM

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me 2nd?? hehehe
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post Jul 26 2012, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(mxsteven @ Jul 26 2012, 10:13 AM)
Nope.... im 1st tongue.gif.....

kene thread lock by admin edi cannot copy the BB code.... demmm have to recreate lols.... see 1 hour no one create the thread so i create the thread lor..

afoz jgn mare yerrr
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i just noticed that you added me in 4g93t with descriptions LOL
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post Jul 26 2012, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(shiyau @ Jul 26 2012, 10:42 AM)
i just noticed that you added me in 4g93t with descriptions LOL
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wah u stalk on me ahhhh hahahahaha
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post Jul 26 2012, 10:59 AM

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U can actually click on Quote, then open new topic, those bb code will be there.
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post Jul 26 2012, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(IamRacist @ Jul 25 2012, 08:38 PM)
Guys, is it OK if I detach the hose from the rocker cover to the intake pipe, seal the intake pipe, and leave the rocker cover with the hose unsealed for the oil vapors to pass out?
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That's what OCT aka Oil Catch Tank is use for smile.gif
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post Jul 26 2012, 11:01 AM

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post Jul 26 2012, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(Azuma-kun @ Jul 26 2012, 10:59 AM)
U can actually click on Quote, then open new topic, those bb code will be there.
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u cant when its lock edi


Added on July 26, 2012, 11:03 amhow u did that lols

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post Jul 26 2012, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(mxsteven @ Jul 26 2012, 11:03 AM)
u cant when its lock edi


Added on July 26, 2012, 11:03 amhow u did that lols
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wahahahahaha laugh.gif
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post Jul 26 2012, 11:11 AM

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Lolssss done..... so many bug inside need to edit hahahaha some signature was there.. apa kucing alkaline 50km etc etc lolololssss
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post Jul 26 2012, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(nelsonlye @ Jul 26 2012, 11:00 AM)
That's what OCT aka Oil Catch Tank is use for smile.gif
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But is it OK to let the vapours and air escape just like that?
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post Jul 26 2012, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(IamRacist @ Jul 26 2012, 11:52 AM)
But is it OK to let the vapours and air escape just like that?
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depend how much vapour are you talking about..... if too much vapour means that u have compression loss edi.... need to do compression test.
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Manage to found this extremely rare Truth CF Bonnet.... rclxms.gif Hope the transaction will be smooth...

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post Jul 26 2012, 12:31 PM

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Eh how come I am under 4G15/4G91
Me Wira 1.6 biggrin.gif
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I still keeping my good old Wira running with rojak-ed 1.8L MIVEC which runs on Haltech standalone management system. Can I join in here ah? I'm an uncle already, no balls to drive that fast compared to few years ago. sad.gif
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hello all, just wanted to ask few questions about my Wira Automatic 1.5GLi, clocked >210km, and what are the items should get checked or replaced, thank you.
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QUOTE(mxsteven @ Jul 26 2012, 11:55 AM)
depend how much vapour are you talking about..... if too much vapour means that u have compression loss edi.... need to do compression test.
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If I totally block the hole will it harm the engine?
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post Jul 26 2012, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(shinjite @ Jul 26 2012, 12:31 PM)
Eh how come I am under 4G15/4G91
Me Wira 1.6 biggrin.gif
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Me copy and paste onli leh....

ok done
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QUOTE(mxsteven @ Jul 26 2012, 05:04 PM)
Me copy and paste onli leh....

ok done
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post Jul 26 2012, 05:11 PM

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Finally new thread! hahaha...anyway regarding my passenger seat water leaking...today went to service my aircond already...so far no problem.. smile.gif

btw wanna ask guys how to measure our wira headlamp ar? i really got no idea...because when i ask my mechanic to adjust he just adjust both the same...but not adjusting it to the spec that it shines on the road correctly...haha

thanks and hope someone can help me
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post Jul 26 2012, 05:27 PM

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Okay ...... Im officially Own 3 Wira starting from today HAHAHAHAHAHA

1. Wira 1.6 Sedan export model (I took care of the car since day 1 coz its my housemate car)
2. Wira 1.5 Aeroback (From my hometown neighbour which she also moved to KL and in same taman as a neighbour too... what a coincidence in life... Mileage only 90k and the car still new, seats wrap still with plastic hahahaha)
3. Wira Diesel 2.0 (Its my car company car from my Ex-company, I took the car since day 1 and lotsa unforgetable memories with it....So my ex-company decided to give the car to me)

What nex hahahaha
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Wah!!! Wira 2.0 diesel......very valuable le....
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post Jul 26 2012, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(nelsonlye @ Jul 26 2012, 05:37 PM)
Wah!!! Wira 2.0 diesel......very valuable le....
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any commonrail engine can fit ah hahahaha
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guys, normally how much the repair fee for our wira door "gun" ?
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QUOTE(wemglucas3 @ Jul 26 2012, 06:56 PM)
guys, normally how much the repair fee for our wira door "gun" ?
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i fix mine around RM40 only...btw its different price for the rear "gun" and the front "gun"

haha...
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QUOTE(carcraze66 @ Jul 26 2012, 05:58 PM)
i fix mine around RM40 only...btw its different price for the rear "gun" and the front "gun"

haha...
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Rm40 for one door ? where did you send ur wira ? accessories shop okay anot ?
my is front driver side kong already, front passenger also less sensitive dy... rear still ok... biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(wemglucas3 @ Jul 26 2012, 05:56 PM)
guys, normally how much the repair fee for our wira door "gun" ?
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labour RM20-30 and the gun cost maybe 10-30
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finally new thread. tongue.gif

QUOTE(mxsteven @ Jul 26 2012, 05:27 PM)
Okay ...... Im officially Own 3 Wira starting from today HAHAHAHAHAHA

1. Wira 1.6 Sedan export model (I took care of the car since day 1 coz its my housemate car)
2. Wira 1.5 Aeroback (From my hometown neighbour which she also moved to KL and in same taman as a neighbour too... what a coincidence in life... Mileage only 90k and the car still new, seats wrap still with plastic hahahaha)
3. Wira Diesel 2.0 (Its my car company car from my Ex-company, I took the car since day 1 and lotsa unforgetable memories with it....So my ex-company decided to give the car to me)

What nex hahahaha
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Diesel 2.0 can put in 4G63? drool.gif
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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Jul 26 2012, 06:10 PM)
finally new thread. tongue.gif
Diesel 2.0 can put in 4G63? drool.gif
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I hope can but i think cannot.... even 4G93 i tink also hard.... so 2.0 high comp diesel turbo hehehehe...
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QUOTE(wemglucas3 @ Jul 26 2012, 07:04 PM)
Rm40 for one door ? where did you send ur wira ? accessories shop okay anot ?
my is front driver side kong already, front passenger also less sensitive dy... rear still ok...  biggrin.gif
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yup one door...haha...btw i send my car to so called "family mechanic"..hahaha...my whole family go there to service one...

btw accesories shop ok or not is depend one...haha...some accesories shop are very good in workman ship, doesnt con ppl...but some...they chop you like doh.gif


btw bro mxsteven, you know how to align our wira headlamp ar??? sweat.gif
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its been awhile since i last posted here

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Along with the new thread, my car got new limb... Finally, got my clutch d... tongue.gif

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QUOTE(k3v_84 @ Jul 26 2012, 10:50 PM)
Along with the new thread, my car got new limb... Finally, got my clutch d... tongue.gif

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walao eh bro...u using blackberry, htc and apple? hahahaha...3 types charger thumbup.gif
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add me into the list. 1.6 wira AT. 4g92 =D
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walao eh bro...u using blackberry, htc and apple? hahahaha...3 types charger thumbup.gif
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Haha... Those were the days... Last time used to addicted to phone, nowadays all $$ gone to car... None left for phones d... sad.gif
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ok added
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QUOTE(kazami @ Jul 26 2012, 09:07 PM)
its been awhile since i last posted here

shinjite and azuma
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Hmmmmm TT ahhh hmmmmmmmm This week quite pack coz moving to new house.
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QUOTE(mxsteven @ Jul 27 2012, 12:39 AM)
ok added
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thanks..
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ok added
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QUOTE(carcraze66 @ Jul 26 2012, 07:52 PM)
yup one door...haha...btw i send my car to so called "family mechanic"..hahaha...my whole family go there to service one...

btw accesories shop ok or not is depend one...haha...some accesories shop are very good in workman ship, doesnt con ppl...but some...they chop you like  doh.gif
btw bro mxsteven, you know how to align our wira headlamp ar???  sweat.gif
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Align or adjust?...

Adjust easy only.... take a test pen or a screw driver and turn the adjust section of the headlamp. It had vertical and horizontal adjust.


Added on July 27, 2012, 9:18 am
QUOTE(IamRacist @ Jul 27 2012, 03:58 AM)
Steven can add me too? 1.6 AT thomas cup biggrin.gif
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done.... added ur cup edi

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post Jul 27 2012, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(mxsteven @ Jul 26 2012, 06:23 PM)
I hope can but i think cannot.... even 4G93 i tink also hard.... so 2.0 high comp diesel turbo hehehehe...
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Can...cause your car running on 2.0cc....sure can pass.....that's why lots ppl looking for 2.0 diesel..
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QUOTE(nelsonlye @ Jul 27 2012, 10:59 AM)
Can...cause your car running on 2.0cc....sure can pass.....that's why lots ppl looking for 2.0 diesel..
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put diesel engine on wira?
possible eh?


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There's no 4G9x diesel engine which i know.....
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According to JPJ, only the Perdana chassis is allow to do 2L conversions legally
Any other chassis is not allowed

Although Wira diesel 2L is discontinued for a very long time, I doubt it can be done legally because JPJ already specifically stated only Perdana chassis
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QUOTE(shinjite @ Jul 27 2012, 11:04 AM)
According to JPJ, only the Perdana chassis is allow to do 2L conversions legally
Any other chassis is not allowed

Although Wira diesel 2L is discontinued for a very long time, I doubt it can be done legally because JPJ already specifically stated only Perdana chassis
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i see. btw waht the main benefit change to diesel ?
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Well i prefer maintain diesel because i still getting ridiculous mileage ahahahahaha full tank RM40 can go minimum 650km town and 800km on highway.
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Muahaha...damn tats crazy man
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QUOTE(mxsteven @ Jul 27 2012, 11:12 AM)
Well i prefer maintain diesel because i still getting ridiculous mileage ahahahahaha full tank RM40 can go minimum 650km town and 800km on highway.
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wow... that so blink.gif blink.gif

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That is nothing compare to my company car ford focus in Arzignano, Italy. I filled 49 Litre of Bio Diesel and travelled from Azignano, Vicenza, Milan, Mont Blanc Till France Lyon, Grenoble and final Notre Dame De Commier. Mileage 1180km... and i still can go 4xx km..

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wow...
diesel FC is so good...?
but i see my frend's Ford TSI doing around 8-9 L / 100km only...
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QUOTE(Str33tBoY @ Jul 27 2012, 11:55 AM)
wow...
diesel FC is so good...?
but i see my frend's Ford TSI doing around 8-9 L / 100km only...
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Malaysia ones is detuned..... for some stupid reason....

after tuned the car will fly....
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QUOTE(mxsteven @ Jul 27 2012, 11:57 AM)
Malaysia ones is detuned..... for some stupid reason....

after tuned the car will fly....
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what do u think bout our petrol 4g15 ?
if tuned how much can go?
mine last time light foot only can do 14km/l
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i think 14km/l is the max hahahaha never get 14km/l yet before on 4g15
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My 4G92 can get 11km/l i also very happy liao..
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done.... added ur cup edi
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Last time sold my Wira 1.3 to my bro..now already bought Wira SE 1.5...the one with disc brake at rear tyre.
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QUOTE(sranua @ Jul 27 2012, 03:00 PM)
Last time sold my Wira 1.3 to my bro..now already bought Wira SE 1.5...the one with disc brake at rear tyre.
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Huh ... rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif the last species of 4 disc brakes wira
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QUOTE(mxsteven @ Jul 27 2012, 12:26 PM)
i think 14km/l is the max hahahaha never get 14km/l yet before on 4g15
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waa.. so sad lor. when thinking this car not even a hybrid.
can do 34km/l
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hmmm..........rechip...

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In progress..........ehehehe.....prepare b4 rechip
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QUOTE(nelsonlye @ Jul 27 2012, 07:01 PM)
hmmm..........rechip...

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Ready to roll...
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haiya...my wira carbie dont have this kinda thing to play with..haha... sweat.gif

actually does EFi works better in terms of power comparing with carbie??

lets say compare 1.5 auto EFi with 1.5 auto carbie... hmm.gif


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last month i do allignment and balancing for my car..found my rear tyre allignment out of range too much..foreman put some ring to make it in range..he say some part hv problem already,but he din mention properly...izit is dog bone?any sifu here know what part will cause allignment out of range too much?pls let me know as i wish to change that part and redo my allignment..thanks..

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QUOTE(shen1716 @ Jul 27 2012, 10:27 PM)
last month i do allignment and balancing for my car..found my rear tyre allignment out of range too much..foreman put some ring to make it in range..he say some part hv problem already,but he din mention properly...izit is dog bone?any sifu here know what part will cause allignment out of range too much?pls let me know as i wish to change that part and redo my allignment..thanks..
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mxsteven add me on the first post. Wira 1.5 eh
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QUOTE(arsengal @ Jul 28 2012, 12:34 AM)
mxsteven add me on the first post. Wira 1.5 eh
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QUOTE(carcraze66 @ Jul 27 2012, 10:00 PM)
haiya...my wira carbie dont have this kinda thing to play with..haha... sweat.gif

actually does EFi works better in terms of power comparing with carbie??

lets say compare 1.5 auto EFi with 1.5 auto carbie...  hmm.gif
EFI sure perform better because you can set the ignition and the AFR precise on target RPM vs LOAD.

perhaps EFI had more stuff to play and more protection. eg: Antilag system, launch control, system protection and etc etc

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wira 1.5GLi (A) Rm80 ron 95@rm1.9/L = total 430km then engine stall due to fuel shortage =___=!! finally learn hard lesson on how wira response when not enuf fuel...
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QUOTE(jay @ Jul 28 2012, 10:26 PM)
wira 1.5GLi (A) Rm80 ron 95@rm1.9/L = total 430km then engine stall due to fuel shortage =___=!! finally learn hard lesson on how wira response when not enuf fuel...
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hahahahahahaha lolsssssss..... tekan the car like no response hahahahaha last few jerk thats it lols
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Just changed ecu for my 4g91... Can rev until 8k rpm without any lag... smile.gif Heard that it can go until 8.5k but too bad my meter until 8k only... sad.gif
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QUOTE(k3v_84 @ Jul 29 2012, 03:22 PM)
Just changed ecu for my 4g91... Can rev until 8k rpm without any lag... smile.gif Heard that it can go until 8.5k but too bad my meter until 8k only... sad.gif
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wah wat ecu from wat car... sounds fun....

your signature really lols me out hahahaha
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QUOTE(mxsteven @ Jul 29 2012, 08:43 PM)
wah wat ecu from wat car... sounds fun....

your signature really lols me out hahahaha
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I read from google it is from eterna 1.8 (4g93), ecu code is 6123 smile.gif

And yeah, the comment from my signature makes me laugh everytime too... Vios also like that d... If he drive a Passat i guess his eyes can't look straight d... tongue.gif
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hmmmmm its compatible huh!!! how abt the fc?

ps:we all know vios hahahahahaa
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QUOTE(mxsteven @ Jul 29 2012, 09:52 PM)
hmmmmm its compatible huh!!! how abt the fc?

ps:we all know vios hahahahahaa
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Yup,wiring same with 4g91... Fc not sure yet coz today 1st day only.... tongue.gif but I think keep revving so sure petrol high a bit.... Anyway, con is when u travelling in low rpm, respond very slow... Maybe is because mine is underpower from 4g93 la... Think need to keep at least 2.5k I think... sad.gif
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QUOTE(k3v_84 @ Jul 29 2012, 10:04 PM)
Yup,wiring same with 4g91... Fc not sure yet coz today 1st day only.... tongue.gif but I think keep revving so sure petrol high a bit.... Anyway, con is when u travelling in low rpm, respond very slow... Maybe is because mine is underpower from 4g93 la... Think need to keep at least 2.5k  I think... sad.gif
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Just becareful coz the mapping might not be compatible and the timing if incorrect it will blow ur engine due to head detonation. Just take note ok.
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QUOTE(mxsteven @ Jul 29 2012, 11:13 PM)
Just becareful coz the mapping might not be compatible and the timing if incorrect it will blow ur engine due to head detonation. Just take note ok.
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Wow, so serious case?! Actually I'm quite noob in these technical things... It is recommended by my mech coz he said his friend own the same engine using that ecu with no prob... That's why he recommend me to use... Hopefully bad things won't happen la... *pray* *pray* tongue.gif
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Guys, have anyone ever encountered rising engine oil level?

when checking engine level this morning, condition cold, level ground as usual, the dip shows engine oil is much higher than 2 days ago when I checked.
radiator checked, no leakage of radiator liquid.

what's wrong? fuel?

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hi guys..need clarification about my problem...when i do a hard turn (left or right), there is tak tak tak tak sound...anyone know where the sound came from?...is it the driveshaft?...my car will vibrate like hell if my meter pass 120 km/h...doing balancing and allignment recently....already adjust chamber and still got the problem...tyre "makan dalam" a bit...please help.. icon_question.gif icon_question.gif

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QUOTE(samfisher @ Jul 30 2012, 02:13 PM)
hi guys..need clarification about my problem...when i do a hard turn (left or right), there is tak tak tak tak sound...anyone know where the sound came from?...is it the driveshaft?...my car will vibrate like hell if my meter pass 120 km/h...doing balancing and allignment recently....already adjust chamber and still got the problem...tyre "makan dalam" a bit...please help.. icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif

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sounds like driveshaft, ever check?
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QUOTE(jay @ Jul 28 2012, 10:26 PM)
wira 1.5GLi (A) Rm80 ron 95@rm1.9/L = total 430km then engine stall due to fuel shortage =___=!! finally learn hard lesson on how wira response when not enuf fuel...
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The last few hundred metres before stall, will be jerking/coughing/spluttering.
Similiar like drink from straw, until the last bits of water, then 50-50 suck in air & water.

QUOTE(outpace @ Jul 30 2012, 11:58 AM)
Guys, have anyone ever encountered rising engine oil level?

when checking engine level this morning, condition cold, level ground as usual, the dip shows engine oil is much higher than 2 days ago when I checked.
radiator checked, no leakage of radiator liquid.

what's wrong? fuel?
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How much higher on the dipstick ? 1mm ? 5mm ? 10mm ?
hmm.gif

Try do few more daily cold-check.

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QUOTE(outpace @ Jul 30 2012, 02:16 PM)
sounds like driveshaft, ever check?
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nope... sweat.gif ...15 years old car...maybe is it the time to change it?....any other possibility to confirm it is the driveshaft problem?... hmm.gif
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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Jul 30 2012, 02:20 PM)
How much higher on the dipstick ? 1mm ? 5mm ? 10mm ?
hmm.gif

Try do few more daily cold-check.
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It's like 5mm higher than last time reading, 2 days ago.
I suspected petrol mix into it. No solid evidence yet. but I checked just now in afternoon, it backs to normal. hmm.gif

checked through net, found this :
""""-In certain cases, the oil level may have risen since the last time you checked. This could be due to condensed water (from combustion), condensed fuel or a coolant leak - all are causes for concern.
-Fuel-diluted motor oil (from blow-by or leakage) can substantially reduce oil viscosity and thin additive concentration. The odor of diesel fuel can often be detected right from the dipstick.
-Free and emulsified water is harmful to the oil and the engine. For short-trip drivers, water condensation may be more acute if your engine has the flexible fuel vehicle (FFV) option and you are burning an alcohol-gasoline fuel blend. It is important to remember that combustion produces water in your engine - more water than the fuel consumed. Most of the water goes out the tailpipe, but if the engine is cool, much of it may condense in the crankcase.
-A simple way to detect water in used motor oil is to put a drop of oil from the dipstick on a hot exhaust manifold. If it crackles (sounds like bacon frying) this is an indication of water contamination. Beware that there is some risk that the drop of oil may catch fire.
-Brand new automobiles imported from Japan may have a high oil level due to short-run engine starts (as many as 50) required when the vehicle is transported from the assembly plant, across the ocean, and finally to the dealer’s lot. In this case, an oil and filter change may be merited.
-Coolant leak is a serious problem relating to high oil level. See Lesson No. 5.
Whatever the cause of the high oil level, the condition needs to be quickly corrected.
Note: accidental overfilling oil into your engine can cause problems too. As the crankshaft rotates it will churn the oil, causing aeration and eventually sustained foam may form. This can lead to overheated motor oil, oxidation and a loss of oil pressure. Spongy aerated oil is hard to pump. It starves the engine and critical lubricated surfaces."""""
http://www.mycarforum.com/index.php?showtopic=2650644&st=60

So I guess it fuel mix, as no contamination in my radiator.


Added on July 30, 2012, 2:56 pm
QUOTE(samfisher @ Jul 30 2012, 02:21 PM)
nope... sweat.gif ...15 years old car...maybe is it the time to change it?....any other possibility to confirm it is the driveshaft problem?... hmm.gif
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You have every reason to change the car rclxms.gif even if it is 5months old icon_rolleyes.gif

few common causes led to vibration at high speed
: 1, uneven tyres (includes imbalance tyre),
2, deformed rims,
3, problematic absorber and
4, drive shaft issue.

as you noted there is tak tak tak when you threw your car into corner, 1 and 2 are irrelevant, I have no experience in 3 tongue.gif

4 is safer guess and also I had experienced when the ball joint gao dim liao.

sifu-sifu should be able to give you mroe accurate answer.

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Added on July 30, 2012, 4:33 pmengine oil on dip stick will show higher when u check after park overnight because all the oil had returned below... normally what i do is warm up the engine to optimum temp and let it cool down after 15mins then check...

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Thanks.

Really? I always check the oil level, morning before depart.
interesting suggestion but 20 minutes of precious sleeping time is not joking tongue.gif
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QUOTE(outpace @ Jul 30 2012, 05:40 PM)
Thanks.

Really? I always check the oil level, morning before depart.
interesting suggestion but 20 minutes of precious sleeping time is not joking tongue.gif
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I got Gab lowered spring + Gab SA series absorber to let go.. just to clear my store room.. RM250 take everything.. 1 of the absorber need to be serviced others are ok..
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QUOTE(outpace @ Jul 30 2012, 02:46 PM)
It's like 5mm  higher than last time reading, 2 days ago.
I suspected petrol mix into it. No solid evidence yet. but I checked just now in afternoon, it backs to normal. hmm.gif

checked through net, found this :
""""-In certain cases, the oil level may have risen since the last time you checked. This could be due to condensed water (from combustion), condensed fuel or a coolant leak - all are causes for concern.
-Fuel-diluted motor oil (from blow-by or leakage) can substantially reduce oil viscosity and thin additive concentration. The odor of diesel fuel can often be detected right from the dipstick.
-Free and emulsified water is harmful to the oil and the engine. For short-trip drivers, water condensation may be more acute if your engine has the flexible fuel vehicle (FFV) option and you are burning an alcohol-gasoline fuel blend. It is important to remember that combustion produces water in your engine - more water than the fuel consumed. Most of the water goes out the tailpipe, but if the engine is cool, much of it may condense in the crankcase.
-A simple way to detect water in used motor oil is to put a drop of oil from the dipstick on a hot exhaust manifold. If it crackles (sounds like bacon frying) this is an indication of water contamination. Beware that there is some risk that the drop of oil may catch fire.
-Brand new automobiles imported from Japan may have a high oil level due to short-run engine starts (as many as 50) required when the vehicle is transported from the assembly plant, across the ocean, and finally to the dealer’s lot. In this case, an oil and filter change may be merited.
-Coolant leak is a serious problem relating to high oil level. See Lesson No. 5.
Whatever the cause of the high oil level, the condition needs to be quickly corrected.
Note: accidental overfilling oil into your engine can cause problems too. As the crankshaft rotates it will churn the oil, causing aeration and eventually sustained foam may form. This can lead to overheated motor oil, oxidation and a loss of oil pressure. Spongy aerated oil is hard to pump. It starves the engine and critical lubricated surfaces."""""
http://www.mycarforum.com/index.php?showtopic=2650644&st=60

So I guess it fuel mix, as no contamination in my radiator.


Added on July 30, 2012, 2:56 pm
You have every reason to change the car rclxms.gif  even if it is 5months old icon_rolleyes.gif

few common causes led to vibration at high speed
: 1, uneven tyres (includes imbalance tyre),
2, deformed rims,
3, problematic absorber and
4, drive shaft issue.

as you noted there is tak tak tak when you threw your car into corner, 1 and 2 are irrelevant, I have no experience in 3  tongue.gif

4 is safer guess and also I had experienced when the ball joint gao dim liao.

sifu-sifu should be able to give you mroe accurate answer.
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thanks mate...will look at the drive shaft asap...really scare something worst will happen when driving.... sweat.gif
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Damn long no lurk here liao... Gratz on the new thread!!! Btw, my wira... tat day i went a lil bit crazy with ma fren... after u turn.. i step on the gas... then the car accelerate hard... then at bout 100 i smell some burning smell in the cabin... then my fren say gt some smoke from the exhaust...

wats wrong with it? 4g15 carb auto..
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hey all.. nice to meet u all..

does anyone knows where is the release bolt for the radiator of Wira 1.6? thinking to flush the radiator soon. the water temp goes up sometimes and was thinking maybe too much rust/dust inside.
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QUOTE(mxsteven @ Jul 30 2012, 06:31 PM)
sleeping time? lols i dun get it ... im lost
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I mean early in the morning, I would prefer to sleep longer time rather than start and wait it cool down gauge the oil. laugh.gif
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lolssssss.....
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QUOTE(outpace @ Jul 31 2012, 09:38 AM)
I mean early in the morning, I would prefer to sleep longer time rather than start and wait it cool down gauge the oil. laugh.gif
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doh.gif Did you do the check on same condition previously ?

The dip-stick level will be different on all these occasion:
1) After drive and immediate check.
2) After drive and wait 5/10/15/30 minutes.
3) Cold check in morning (without driving for 4-8 hours)

Then you have to use own judgement to compensate slightly for it, as above:
1) the level will be normal or slightly under, but not low-limit.
2) the level will be normal or slightly higher by 1-5mm, but not high-limit
3) the level will be above normal, about 5-15mm, but not high-limit.

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QUOTE(outpace @ Jul 31 2012, 09:38 AM)
I mean early in the morning, I would prefer to sleep longer time rather than start and wait it cool down gauge the oil. laugh.gif
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Do it at night before you sleep lor laugh.gif
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as long there is oil between the min and max level should be ok liow.... if over the max level means too much.... even after i park my car for a week without start, it should be at the max level never exceed. after start the car and warm up and let it cold down, it will be at the level above half somewhere 3/4
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Anyone encounter idle not stable when air-cond on? Keep revving between 200-800 rpm, so sometimes like engine gonna die... Any idea which part faulty? Not interested in adding FICD if possible... Thx...
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QUOTE(k3v_84 @ Jul 31 2012, 08:13 PM)
Anyone encounter idle not stable when air-cond on? Keep revving between 200-800 rpm, so sometimes like engine gonna die... Any idea which part faulty? Not interested in adding FICD if possible... Thx...
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ho ho ho.. FICD kong
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QUOTE(shiyau @ Jul 31 2012, 09:31 PM)
ho ho ho.. FICD kong
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Original got FICD meh?
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QUOTE(k3v_84 @ Jul 31 2012, 08:13 PM)
Anyone encounter idle not stable when air-cond on? Keep revving between 200-800 rpm, so sometimes like engine gonna die... Any idea which part faulty? Not interested in adding FICD if possible... Thx...
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gear inside TB kong..just replace it will do..cost less than rm100..last time i change is rm80.
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gear inside TB kong..just replace it will do..cost less than rm100..last time i change is rm80.
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Is it normal for proton wira 1.6 to drink fuel like monster? Even though I only maintain 2-2.5k rpm. I have a lot of torque around that range but isn't that going to help acceleration with ease while saving a lot of fuel at the same time? It feels very good for city drive rather than highway but it still consumes fuel just as much as travelling on high ways:(

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QUOTE(IamRacist @ Jul 31 2012, 09:59 PM)
Is it normal for proton wira 1.6 to drink fuel like monster? Even though I only maintain 2-2.5k rpm. I have a lot of torque around that range but isn't that going to help acceleration with ease while saving a lot of fuel at the same time? It feels very good for city drive rather than highway but it still consumes fuel just as much as travelling on high ways:(
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I always thought traveling on highway consume lesser fuel than city drive?...how many km u get per liter of fuel?
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QUOTE(k3v_84 @ Jul 31 2012, 09:33 PM)
Original got FICD meh?
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silap doh.gif it's plastic gear attached on your throttle body.. ISC kong.. Idle speed control
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QUOTE(shiyau @ Jul 31 2012, 10:12 PM)
silap doh.gif it's plastic gear attached on your throttle body.. ISC kong.. Idle speed control
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Last time my ISC got prob is rpm low when ac on... But now is rpm keep up and down when ac on wor... sad.gif
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QUOTE(SinS @ Jul 31 2012, 10:10 PM)
I always thought traveling on highway consume lesser fuel than city drive?...how many km u get per liter of fuel?
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Rm65 can get at most is 300km. Both high way and city drive consumes just as bad. Even though the engine maintain 2000rpm, no difference also. I'm using esso ron95, shell sluggish but mileage slighty more only.
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QUOTE(IamRacist @ Jul 31 2012, 10:39 PM)
Rm65 can get at most is 300km. Both high way and city drive consumes just as bad. Even though the engine maintain 2000rpm, no difference also. I'm using esso ron95, shell sluggish but mileage slighty more only.
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U should sent to workshop to check already...
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QUOTE(SinS @ Jul 31 2012, 10:56 PM)
U should sent to workshop to check already...
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normally how is 4g92 fuel consumption?
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QUOTE(IamRacist @ Jul 31 2012, 10:39 PM)
Rm65 can get at most is 300km. Both high way and city drive consumes just as bad. Even though the engine maintain 2000rpm, no difference also. I'm using esso ron95, shell sluggish but mileage slighty more only.
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I'm driving the same car and had the same fc as u. In pumping Ron 95. City driving average 60kmh
If highway driving I can go up to 400km with average 100kmh.
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QUOTE(dont8cum @ Aug 1 2012, 01:55 AM)
I'm driving the same car and had the same fc as u. In pumping Ron 95. City driving average 60kmh
If highway driving I can go up to 400km with average 100kmh.
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Aiya highway driving mine is worse than yours by far. I really prefer city driving than highway, because I feel weak in highways lol..
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Halo halo, sorry for the late reply. Long time didn't follow up this thread. Please take good care of this thread, oh Mr TS. Btw my Wira has been sleeping for quite some time, 2 months already until battery kong. So many things to be done to that car. Lost track of mileage record for servicing due to malfunction meter. Saman to settle before renewing roadtax. doh.gif
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QUOTE(IamRacist @ Aug 1 2012, 12:48 AM)
normally how is 4g92 fuel consumption?
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A healthy 4G92 SOHC can get good mileage smile.gif
Last time auto days, can get >600km full tank traveling
But of course 70% highway, 30% city that time

Auto OD gear only 2100rpm at 90km/h
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QUOTE(k3v_84 @ Jul 31 2012, 10:29 PM)
Last time my ISC got prob is rpm low when ac on... But now is rpm keep up and down when ac on wor... sad.gif
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yours is MMC or VDO? if MMC the gear original cost RM65 and local RM29/set. If you dont take the magnetic gear then it will be RM20 and ori should be RM39.

If MMC you may reset the stepper motor. There is a brown connector on the firewall and you need to put to ground before start the car. after start edi, you will need to adjust the target idling (adjust with ac off, lights off and make sure fan no run)

You can also confirm the isc gear got ko or not by removing the 2 screws and inspect. Pls dun put normal grease inside as it is incompatible. You may get plastic high temp gear grease from any tamiya shop.
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QUOTE(afosz @ Aug 1 2012, 06:16 AM)
Halo halo, sorry for the late reply. Long time didn't follow up this thread. Please take good care of this thread, oh Mr TS. Btw my Wira has been sleeping for quite some time, 2 months already until battery kong. So many things to be done to that car. Lost track of mileage record for servicing due to malfunction meter. Saman to settle before renewing roadtax. doh.gif
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u finally back ah.... previous thread post until admin lock edi hahahahaha
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QUOTE(eugenetwh @ Jul 31 2012, 10:14 PM)
y no people reply me one? =(
Damn long no lurk here liao... Gratz on the new thread!!! Btw, my wira... tat day i went a lil bit crazy with ma fren... after u turn.. i step on the gas... then the car accelerate hard... then at bout 100 i smell some burning smell in the cabin... then my fren say gt some smoke from the exhaust...

wats wrong with it? 4g15 carb auto..
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casue no one really knows what's burning. for carb, think it is rather easy car to maintain, just that fuel consumption is higher.

repeat the thing again and drive to work shop, show them white smoke. burning not completed? piston ring, valve seal, all possible if not more causes


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QUOTE(mxsteven @ Jul 31 2012, 04:31 PM)
as long there is oil between the min and max level should be ok liow.... if over the max level means too much.... even after i park my car for a week without start, it should be at the max level never exceed. after start the car and warm up and let it cold down, it will be at the level above half somewhere 3/4
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QUOTE(DaBestOne @ Jul 31 2012, 02:32 PM)
Do it at night before you sleep lor laugh.gif
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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Jul 31 2012, 12:15 PM)
doh.gif  Did you do the check on same condition previously ?

The dip-stick level will be different on all these occasion:
1) After drive and immediate check.
2) After drive and wait 5/10/15/30 minutes.
3) Cold check in morning (without driving for 4-8 hours)

Then you have to use own judgement to compensate slightly for it, as above:
1) the level will be normal or slightly under, but not low-limit.
2) the level will be normal or slightly higher by 1-5mm, but not high-limit
3) the level will be above normal, about 5-15mm, but not high-limit.
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one notable thing that I have done prior to that morning oil check was that I opened up the hood and let the cold air cool the engine down a bit b4 going to sleep, then discovered the oil level rises much next morning, so i think the oil drop to bottom

anyway, after 200KM + drive yesterday, it came back to normal level. thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(IamRacist @ Jul 31 2012, 09:59 PM)
Is it normal for proton wira 1.6 to drink fuel like monster? Even though I only maintain 2-2.5k rpm. I have a lot of torque around that range but isn't that going to help acceleration with ease while saving a lot of fuel at the same time? It feels very good for city drive rather than highway but it still consumes fuel just as much as travelling on high ways:(
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Mine RM50 can get around 250km++ however...i'm heavy footer...so most time always rev till 7000rpm when pick up.... I pump Petronas.....i feel Petronas give me more mileage compare with Shell..

BTW i'm running on 215 45 R17 rubber & 4 Pot Brake....so is heavier then most Proton...
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QUOTE(shinjite @ Aug 1 2012, 08:41 AM)
A healthy 4G92 SOHC can get good mileage smile.gif
Last time auto days, can get >600km full tank traveling
But of course 70% highway, 30% city that time

Auto OD gear only 2100rpm at 90km/h
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That means mine is not at 100% health sad.gif
Plus while cruising and not stepping hard, the rpm constantly drops from 2500rpm to 1800rpm and gets stuck there and I need to step hard before I get a respond.
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QUOTE(mxsteven @ Aug 1 2012, 08:44 AM)
yours is MMC or VDO? if MMC the gear original cost RM65 and local RM29/set. If you dont take the magnetic gear then it will be RM20 and ori should be RM39.

If MMC you may reset the stepper motor. There is a brown connector on the firewall and you need to put to ground before start the car. after start edi, you will need to adjust the target idling (adjust with ac off, lights off and make sure fan no run)

You can also confirm the isc gear got ko or not by removing the 2 screws and inspect. Pls dun put normal grease inside as it is incompatible. You may get plastic high temp gear grease from any tamiya shop.
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Mine is 4g91... About resetting the step motor, mind to explain more? Don't understand "put on ground before start"... Thx....
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Mine is 4g91... About resetting the step motor, mind to explain more? Don't understand "put on ground before start"... Thx....
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Put on ground means short the connection to ground voltage.. not really put that staff on the ground lololol
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QUOTE(shiyau @ Aug 1 2012, 01:34 PM)
Put on ground means short the connection to ground voltage.. not really put that staff on the ground lololol
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That's why la ask to explain more coz there are 6 pin inside... Dunno which is which... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(nelsonlye @ Aug 1 2012, 10:40 AM)
Mine RM50 can get around 250km++ however...i'm heavy footer...so most time always rev till 7000rpm when pick up.... I pump Petronas.....i feel Petronas give me more mileage compare with Shell..

BTW i'm running on 215 45 R17 rubber & 4 Pot Brake....so is heavier then most Proton...
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almost same mileage like mine 4G15 Auto.... mine Max RM50 280km..... my driving style 99% full throttle and maintain 6k rpm... traffic jam most of the time on L and 2 only.... will put to 3rd gear when reach 140km/h...

drive like this coz so frustrated with this stock engine....
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QUOTE(mxsteven @ Aug 1 2012, 08:46 AM)
u finally back ah.... previous thread post until admin lock edi hahahahaha
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QUOTE(k3v_84 @ Aug 1 2012, 01:57 PM)
That's why la ask to explain more coz there are 6 pin inside... Dunno which is which... tongue.gif
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wtf hahahahaha

There is only 1 pin la bro....

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QUOTE(afosz @ Aug 1 2012, 02:06 PM)
Yea, been away from this thread for quite some. Only notice this morning when one person notify me to open new thread, when I realize there is one created earlier. Previous thread already 3k+ posts. Should have notified when post reaching 2k-2.5k, but then oh well. New TS brows.gif
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hahahahaha no doubt.... cannot post whole morning waiting for someone to start the thread lols.... ended no one create so i create lor hahahahaha

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QUOTE(mxsteven @ Aug 1 2012, 02:24 PM)
wtf hahahahaha

There is only 1 pin la bro....

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hahahahaha no doubt.... cannot post whole morning waiting for someone to start the thread lols.... ended no one create so i create lor hahahahaha
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QUOTE(mxsteven @ Aug 1 2012, 02:24 PM)
wtf hahahahaha

There is only 1 pin la bro....

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hahahahaha no doubt.... cannot post whole morning waiting for someone to start the thread lols.... ended no one create so i create lor hahahahaha
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Still cannot... sad.gif went to workshop just now, said maybe my airflow now match with my ecu... Got some black smoke coming out from my exhaust, maybe unfinish burn fuel due to low air... Need find 1.8 airflow and see how... sweat.gif
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Wanna pause already, currently not working and have spent too much money on my ride recently... Beh tahan liow... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(IamRacist @ Aug 1 2012, 10:42 AM)
That means mine is not at 100% health sad.gif
Plus while cruising and not stepping hard, the rpm constantly drops from 2500rpm to 1800rpm and gets stuck there and I need to step hard before I get a respond.
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i tot higher rpm will consume more fuel?

i'm a heavy footer but my rpm very hard to go above 3000. dono is it my car problem or its the nature of this wira model?

unless i change the gear manually L --> 2 --> D den i can go 7000rpm
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QUOTE(IamRacist @ Jul 31 2012, 09:59 PM)
Is it normal for proton wira 1.6 to drink fuel like monster? Even though I only maintain 2-2.5k rpm. I have a lot of torque around that range but isn't that going to help acceleration with ease while saving a lot of fuel at the same time? It feels very good for city drive rather than highway but it still consumes fuel just as much as travelling on high ways:(
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QUOTE(IamRacist @ Jul 31 2012, 10:39 PM)
Rm65 can get at most is 300km. Both high way and city drive consumes just as bad. Even though the engine maintain 2000rpm, no difference also. I'm using esso ron95, shell sluggish but mileage slighty more only.
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Previously I drove 1.6XLi (~1996) for 1 month plus. The mileage is bad: 6.2276 KM/L doh.gif

i.e. 27L, at current price RM51, can go 260-320 km range only. At that time is 50-50 highway/city.

Light foot also, no heavy RPM >3.5k

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QUOTE(k3v_84 @ Aug 1 2012, 03:55 PM)
Wanna pause already, currently not working and have spent too much money on my ride recently... Beh tahan liow... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(dont8cum @ Aug 1 2012, 04:09 PM)
i tot higher rpm will consume more fuel?

i'm a heavy footer but my rpm very hard to go above 3000. dono is it my car problem or its the nature of this wira model?

unless i change the gear manually L --> 2 --> D den i can go 7000rpm
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I can go above 3k rpm easily during pickup before 100kmph, but during high speed must half throttle then only it will suddenly rise above 3k but anything before that its like stuck at 2500rpm. Something must be wrong with my engine. I'm guessing the throttle position sensor setting is wrong.


QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Aug 1 2012, 04:34 PM)
Previously I drove 1.6XLi (~1996) for 1 month plus. The mileage is bad: 6.2276 KM/L  doh.gif

i.e. 27L, at current price RM51, can go 260-320 km range only. At that time is 50-50 highway/city.

Light foot also, no heavy RPM >3.5k
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I consider 3.5k rpm heavy. 2.5k is OK but I tried maintain 2k before and it's still the same only sad.gif

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Guys, anyone know whats the price to replace aircon blower motor?...
Today when i drive back from work, switched on the aircon but no air is coming out...i suspected the blower motor kong already...damn hot but still need to drice 30km... sweat.gif
In the noon i still can adjust the blower speed to 4 when i go for lunch...
Is there a fuse for the blower motor?...could it be the fuse?... hmm.gif...but my compressor and condenser fan is working when my aircon is switch on...

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hi guys..regarding driveshaft problem earlier...anyone know how much it cost for complete set?...left & right...

got quote from a few spare part shop...price ranging between RM145 to RM150...taiwan made...warranty 1 to 3 months...

i think i want to change ori proton...scare if taiwan made will not last very long...any advise?...
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QUOTE(samfisher @ Aug 2 2012, 09:36 AM)
hi guys..regarding driveshaft problem earlier...anyone know how much it cost for complete set?...left & right...

got quote from a few spare part shop...price ranging between RM145 to RM150...taiwan made...warranty 1 to 3 months...

i think i want to change ori proton...scare if taiwan made will not last very long...any advise?...
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Not full comparison, but just for you to get some idea:

My uncle perdana, previously change to non-ori drive-shaft. After ~2 years, the botak-ball comes out from the socket. Front tyre+rim hit the fender. Car undercarriage scrape the road. Lucky not going fast, just turning a corner within housing area. Called me for backup sweat.gif

Towed to Proton Edar workshop, mechanic find 2nd hand but original mitsu/proton to replace.

Safe or not, depends on individual preference.

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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Aug 2 2012, 11:43 AM)
Not full comparison, but just for you to get some idea:

My uncle perdana, previously change to non-ori drive-shaft. After ~2 years, the botak-ball comes out from the socket. Front tyre+rim hit the fender. Car undercarriage scrape the road. Lucky not going fast, just turning a corner within housing area. Called me for backup  sweat.gif

Towed to Proton Edar workshop, mechanic find 2nd hand but original mitsu/proton to replace.

Safe or not, depends on individual preference.
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thats exactly the same thing cross my mind when i heard taiwan made...but the spare part shop owner said the proton ori is so expensive...nearly thousands ringgit...dont know he is bluffing or not... sweat.gif

so, if new and ori is out of my reach, maybe i have to find 2nd hand ori at halfcut, right?...

just get quote from proton sc in sg buloh...proton ori driveshaft is rm600 per piece.. doh.gif ...so damn expensive... rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(samfisher @ Aug 2 2012, 12:51 PM)
thats exactly the same thing cross my mind when i heard taiwan made...but the spare part shop owner said the proton ori is so expensive...nearly thousands ringgit...dont know he is bluffing or not... sweat.gif

so, if new and ori is out of my reach, maybe i have to find 2nd hand ori at halfcut, right?...

just get quote from proton sc in sg buloh...proton ori driveshaft is rm600 per piece.. doh.gif ...so damn expensive... rclxub.gif
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Depends on individual preference. A car moving >60km/h is dangerous. To me, I won't gamble my life for those few hundred ringgit. Or even 1-2k. I'll skimp on car-cosmetic, skirting, tiang-gol, or ICE or some other stuff, but not the basic stuff like tyres, brakes, suspensions, arms, engine, g/b, etc.

Maybe try check few chop-shops if got mitsu parts ?

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Btw, anyone have knowledge of airflow sensor? As currently I can't find a matching airflow sensor for my car, so currently I unplug the socket(means currently not running on that sensor) coz if I use the sensor, my rpm drop until engine stall when air-cond on... I wanna know if there's any consequences other than fc up? Will it damage engine, ecu, or gb?
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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Aug 2 2012, 12:43 PM)
Not full comparison, but just for you to get some idea:

My uncle perdana, previously change to non-ori drive-shaft. After ~2 years, the botak-ball comes out from the socket. Front tyre+rim hit the fender. Car undercarriage scrape the road. Lucky not going fast, just turning a corner within housing area. Called me for backup  sweat.gif

Towed to Proton Edar workshop, mechanic find 2nd hand but original mitsu/proton to replace.

Safe or not, depends on individual preference.
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walaweh! so scary ar...i also scared already...cause my wira driver side front wheel making alot alot of weird sound...haha...didnt bother it first cause fix too many things adi...

but then i would like to ask what is the signs of drive shaft kong ar? other than turning time got "kok kok kok" sound?

cause my wheel going to uneven road will get "klok klok klok" sound..darn annoying..haha
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QUOTE(carcraze66 @ Aug 2 2012, 05:39 PM)
walaweh! so scary ar...i also scared already...cause my wira driver side front wheel making alot alot of weird sound...haha...didnt bother it first cause fix too many things adi...

but then i would like to ask what is the signs of drive shaft kong ar? other than turning time got "kok kok kok" sound?

cause my wheel going to uneven road will get "klok klok klok" sound..darn annoying..haha
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On slow speed <30km/h, is not scary. The wheel does not come out, it still hang onto it, coz the 4 lug-nuts still holding. Only the lower arm of driveshaft (got upper and lower) is broken. The tyre is just like negative camber, but like -30.0 kind. Not -0.5 or -1 tongue.gif
The tyre will then hit the upper and rear (since moving forward) of the fender area.
Therefore, the car can't move anymore.

But try imagine if doing >60km/h. Or 110km/h. Or higher ohmy.gif

For my wira, there is very minor kluk kluk kluk sometimes when doing slow and sharp angle corner. Not sure also, coz my mechanic says is alright. I suggest send to some trusty mechanic, or ask 2-3 workshop on their opinions to be safe.

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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Aug 2 2012, 02:49 PM)
Depends on individual preference. A car moving >60km/h is dangerous. To me, I won't gamble my life for those few hundred ringgit. Or even 1-2k. I'll skimp on car-cosmetic, skirting, tiang-gol, or ICE or some other stuff, but not the basic stuff like tyres, brakes, suspensions, arms, engine, g/b, etc.

Maybe try check few chop-shops if got mitsu parts ?
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totally agreed with you...will try to look out at chop shop this weekend...roughly how much does it cost?...is it depends on condition and years of usage?....for my car, any specific model can be use?... hmm.gif
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QUOTE(samfisher @ Aug 3 2012, 09:48 AM)
totally agreed with you...will try to look out at chop shop this weekend...roughly how much does it cost?...is it depends on condition and years of usage?....for my car, any specific model can be use?...  hmm.gif
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Mine never chg drive-shaft before. But for 2nd hand ori/chop-shop, based on new pricing rm600 each, i'll put my own expectation at rm300 each. Maybe can get about rm200 or less each.
Too old wear & tear on 2nd hand oso... i may not like it also.

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I just replaced my MAP sensor on my own last week. Seems now FC is better now. Now only problem is need to fix engine overheating issue. Waterpump and thermostat I already replaced, but it seems like the radiator is a bit clog and causing overheating at high load or high rpm. I cant find a place to open up the radiator to clean for me.... maybe I will replace a whole new radiator...
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QUOTE(GKWong @ Aug 3 2012, 11:51 AM)
I just replaced my MAP sensor on my own last week. Seems now FC is better now. Now only problem is need to fix engine overheating issue. Waterpump and thermostat I already replaced, but it seems like the radiator is a bit clog and causing overheating at high load or high rpm. I cant find a place to open up the radiator to clean for me.... maybe I will replace a whole new radiator...
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Can you share the reason of replacing the map sensor?

Thanks
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Can you share the reason of replacing the map sensor?

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seems like the value incorrect and causing A/F too lean hence knocking. Right now issue solved. Because previously I already slowly diagnosed and finding the culprit of the knocking such as petrol filter, fuel pump and etc
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QUOTE(GKWong @ Aug 3 2012, 11:51 AM)
I just replaced my MAP sensor on my own last week. Seems now FC is better now. Now only problem is need to fix engine overheating issue. Waterpump and thermostat I already replaced, but it seems like the radiator is a bit clog and causing overheating at high load or high rpm. I cant find a place to open up the radiator to clean for me.... maybe I will replace a whole new radiator...
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I send mine (first time) to clean radiator after so many years. I sent to a radiator only workshop. Labour cost about RM40-60 range (forgot), excluding any parts / coolant. Take about 2 hours.

He will dismantle and take out the radiator + upper & lower tubes + check thermostat.
Radiator will slowly dismantle the top and bottom plastic.
Then will flush/scrub slowly with some basic tools + slow running water. I can see all the teh-tarik come out.
Normally will replace the o-ring rubber for the top radiator plastic cover.
Then assemble back, and put some gel/grease/glue (don't know what it is) at some areas.

After that install back, fill with water & coolant. Check if leak or not.
Then start engine and monitor for like 30 minutes with some high rev every now and then. Check again for leak or any issue.


Otherwise, you can try DIY. To me is risky to dismantle everything myself.

Anyway after that, I don't notice any changes at all on engine running, temperature, etc. It's just a cleaning job to me, since I notice the radiator water is murky with rust.

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seems like the value incorrect and causing A/F too lean hence knocking. Right now issue solved. Because previously I already slowly diagnosed and finding the culprit of the knocking such as petrol filter, fuel pump and etc
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yup thats the symptom but its rare....
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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Aug 3 2012, 03:34 PM)
I send mine (first time) to clean radiator after so many years. I sent to a radiator only workshop. Labour cost about RM40-60 range (forgot), excluding any parts / coolant. Take about 2 hours.

He will dismantle and take out the radiator + upper & lower tubes + check thermostat.
Radiator will slowly dismantle the top and bottom plastic.
Then will flush/scrub slowly with some basic tools + slow running water. I can see all the teh-tarik come out.
Normally will replace the o-ring rubber for the top radiator plastic cover.
Then assemble back, and put some gel/grease/glue (don't know what it is) at some areas.

After that install back, fill with water & coolant. Check if leak or not.
Then start engine and monitor for like 30 minutes with some high rev every now and then. Check again for leak or any issue.
Otherwise, you can try DIY. To me is risky to dismantle everything myself.

Anyway after that, I don't notice any changes at all on engine running, temperature, etc. It's just a cleaning job to me, since I notice the radiator water is murky with rust.
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just now managed to find a place to clean my clogged radiator. Rm18 only. Haha! And 3 bottles of coolant at rm36. Problem fixed now. So happy can fully unleash my car power without overheating anymore :-D
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bro...
how much u replace the map sensor...?
coz my FC gone quite high adi...
around Rm65 for 300km city drive...
heavy footed...
might thing to change also...
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Hi guys,

recently looking for a second hand Wira 1.5 or 1.6 auto only (saloon and aeroback also can).
Can share some experience about this car? Like engine, gearbox, suspension and all.
Normally Wira's engine and gearbox last how long? 200k KM?

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QUOTE(choonyink @ Aug 5 2012, 04:48 PM)
Hi guys,

recently looking for a second hand Wira 1.5 or 1.6 auto only (saloon and aeroback also can).
Can share some experience about this car? Like engine, gearbox, suspension and all.
Normally Wira's engine and gearbox last how long? 200k KM?
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Highly recommend 1.6. Good high compression engine, can be powerful once tuned correctly. However, gearbox for auto 4speed seems to be fragile, it's a popular case, but also depends on the way owners treat the gearbox. Can't tell you about the suspension as mine is screwed up.
The engine for mine 1.6, is already more than 200k KM still running great. Gear box already spoiled when I bought the car as 2nd hand but changed to recond and is much better.
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QUOTE(IamRacist @ Aug 5 2012, 06:32 PM)
Highly recommend 1.6. Good high compression engine, can be powerful once tuned correctly. However, gearbox for auto 4speed seems to be fragile, it's a popular case, but also depends on the way owners treat the gearbox. Can't tell you about the suspension as mine is screwed up.
The engine for mine 1.6, is already more than 200k KM still running great. Gear box already spoiled when I bought the car as 2nd hand but changed to recond and is much better.
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Seems like the 4speed auto is the down side of 1.6 wira blush.gif . How about the 3speed? More reliable?
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QUOTE(choonyink @ Aug 5 2012, 06:50 PM)
Seems like the 4speed auto is the down side of 1.6 wira  blush.gif . How about the 3speed? More reliable?
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3speed is less prone to failure but unfortunately it's function is the downside, will drink a lot of fuel as you will be cruising in very high rpm.
Overall it is better if you go for the 1.6 auto, apart from the gearbox durability, it is better than the 1.5 in every aspect, it's quiet, more powerful and a stronger chassis.
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4 speed auto can last, provided you install gearbox oil cooler.
classic case for Wira and Perdana gearbox
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QUOTE(Str33tBoY @ Aug 5 2012, 09:09 AM)
bro...
how much u replace the map sensor...?
coz my FC gone quite high adi...
around Rm65 for 300km city drive...
heavy footed...
might thing to change also...
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RM140 for the sensor itself. Btw, if your Wira is VDO only got MAP sensor.... and like what mxsteven said, is rare that this sensor causing problem. Better check properly for all other possible reason before get it replace coz is expensive.
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QUOTE(GKWong @ Aug 3 2012, 11:16 PM)
just now managed to find a place to clean my clogged radiator. Rm18 only. Haha! And 3 bottles of coolant at rm36. Problem fixed now. So happy can fully unleash my car power without overheating anymore :-D
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Got dismantle out ? or just open the bottom plug to let it out, then wash, plug back and refill only ?

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Got dismantle out ? or just open the bottom plug to let it out, then wash, plug back and refill only ?
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dismantled whole radiator out and open up the top cover to clean it. Then installed it back and bleed the whole cooling system.
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QUOTE(GKWong @ Aug 6 2012, 01:25 PM)
dismantled whole radiator out and open up the top cover to clean it. Then installed it back and bleed the whole cooling system.
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Yours consider cheap. Mine dismantle bottom cover also, and whole radiator dip into tank to wash it.

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QUOTE(Str33tBoY @ Aug 5 2012, 09:09 AM)
bro...
how much u replace the map sensor...?
coz my FC gone quite high adi...
around Rm65 for 300km city drive...
heavy footed...
might thing to change also...
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Its normal... i get 250km/RM60 coz i always pedal to metal
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QUOTE(mxsteven @ Aug 6 2012, 04:38 PM)
Its normal... i get 250km/RM60 coz i always pedal to metal
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bro ur wira is auto or manual??

just a noob question here...as you said you always pedal to metal right...haha..

but for my wira auto, everytime i want to pedal harder a bit my engine will start knocking and some weirdo sound doh.gif ..haha...

so i would like to know isit auto has a lower chance to pedal max ?

haha sweat.gif
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QUOTE(carcraze66 @ Aug 6 2012, 05:36 PM)
bro ur wira is auto or manual??

just a noob question here...as you said you always pedal to metal right...haha..

but for my wira auto, everytime i want to pedal harder a bit my engine will start knocking and some weirdo sound  doh.gif ..haha...

so i would like to know isit auto has a lower chance to pedal max ?

haha  sweat.gif
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adjust ur ignition timing lower.... thats pinging sound.. mine is auto.... i pedal to metal all the way coz my car under powered... dunno lah most of my fren drive they say ok lolsss maybe i get used driving turbo edi... sighhh
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Guys, i have an old wira 1.3 here. 11 years. but just clocked 110km

This morning I experienced something, at the traffic light thr, while waiting the engine suddenly die off. no sound what so ever
din even realise.

any comments?
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QUOTE(IvanWong1989 @ Aug 7 2012, 07:59 AM)
Guys, i have an old wira 1.3 here. 11 years. but just clocked 110km

This morning I experienced something, at the traffic light thr, while waiting the engine suddenly die off. no sound what so ever
din even realise.

any comments?
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you have to be more specific for ppl to answer you. what u gave is

Traffic lights
Engine Die
No Sound

lolssss speechless
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QUOTE(IvanWong1989 @ Aug 7 2012, 07:59 AM)
Guys, i have an old wira 1.3 here. 11 years. but just clocked 110km

This morning I experienced something, at the traffic light thr, while waiting the engine suddenly die off. no sound what so ever
din even realise.

any comments?
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Can restart or not ?

Could be idling problem (TB)
Could be fuel-filter (not oil-filter) jammed up
Could be petrol finish

Too general

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QUOTE(mxsteven @ Aug 7 2012, 10:33 AM)
you have to be more specific for ppl to answer you. what u gave is

Traffic lights
Engine Die
No Sound

lolssss speechless
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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Aug 7 2012, 11:43 AM)
Can restart or not ?

Could be idling problem (TB)
Could be fuel-filter (not oil-filter) jammed up
Could be petrol finish

Too general
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sorry bout that, I'm don't know much bout car internals.

erm,

yea it died when gear was N.

also, if it is any help,

1. press throttle
2.engine rev up
3. release throttle
4, engine rev down, till it shudders/shakes, like want to die any moment
5. then rev back up to normal idle


gets worse when AC is on. or when I on the headlights.


also, nowadays the car feels sluggish in the morning, and the symptom above is worse in the mornings also.

petrol just pumped. so wouldn't be fuel kosong i think.

also.. it's my parent's car , but I'm using it for now. so I am not sure what maintenance it has gone through. though the timing belt , oil is all new. not sure bout others though.

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QUOTE(IvanWong1989 @ Aug 8 2012, 08:22 AM)
sorry bout that, I'm don't know much bout car internals.

erm,

yea it died when gear was N.

also, if it is any help,

1. press throttle
2.engine rev up
3. release throttle
4, engine rev down, till it shudders/shakes, like want to die any moment
5. then rev back up to normal idle
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Sound very much like throttle body problem. Wait more taiko expert advise.
Either get workshop/mechanic clean it, or replace.

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QUOTE(IvanWong1989 @ Aug 8 2012, 08:22 AM)
sorry bout that, I'm don't know much bout car internals.

erm,

yea it died when gear was N.

also, if it is any help,

1. press throttle
2.engine rev up
3. release throttle
4, engine rev down, till it shudders/shakes, like want to die any moment
5. then rev back up to normal idle
gets worse when AC is on. or when I on the headlights.
also, nowadays the car feels sluggish in the morning, and the symptom above is worse in the mornings also.

petrol just pumped. so wouldn't be fuel kosong i think.

also.. it's my parent's car , but I'm using it for now. so I am not sure what maintenance it has gone through. though the timing belt , oil is all new. not sure bout others though.
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throttle body stepper motor issue... it will compensate RPM when there is a lod (eg lights on, fan, ac or etc)

Need to reset the stepper motor and see 1st

BTW your car is 1.5 MMC or VDO? what year is your car? Carburator or Fuel Injection?
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Is it possible to custom adjust the automatic downshifting while in D?
My 4speed gearbox refuse to downshift until I slow to a near stop.
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Is it possible to custom adjust the automatic downshifting while in D?
My 4speed gearbox refuse to downshift until I slow to a near stop.
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4G92 there is no cable to adjust however your issue seems like your throttle cable loose... it can happen too if throttle cable too loose... for the 3AT it can be adjust.. because 3AT is mechanical driven and runs on a cable share with the throtle cable.
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QUOTE(mxsteven @ Aug 6 2012, 07:58 PM)
adjust ur ignition timing lower.... thats pinging sound.. mine is auto.... i pedal to metal all the way coz my car under powered... dunno lah most of my fren drive they say ok lolsss maybe i get used driving turbo edi... sighhh
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Your car now less than half hp from previous ride, of coz lar feel under power. Haha..

QUOTE(IvanWong1989 @ Aug 8 2012, 08:22 AM)
sorry bout that, I'm don't know much bout car internals.

erm,

yea it died when gear was N.

also, if it is any help,

1. press throttle
2.engine rev up
3. release throttle
4, engine rev down, till it shudders/shakes, like want to die any moment
5. then rev back up to normal idle
gets worse when AC is on. or when I on the headlights.
also, nowadays the car feels sluggish in the morning, and the symptom above is worse in the mornings also.

petrol just pumped. so wouldn't be fuel kosong i think.

also.. it's my parent's car , but I'm using it for now. so I am not sure what maintenance it has gone through. though the timing belt , oil is all new. not sure bout others though.
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Most likely is the throttle body stepper motor.
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anyone wanna sell 4G15 engine block only? with surat kastam? hehehe rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(GKWong @ Aug 8 2012, 03:12 PM)
anyone wanna sell 4G15 engine block only? with surat kastam? hehehe  rolleyes.gif
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Go half cut shop find lar, sure a lot.
Gonna mate it with 4G18 stroker kit is it? brows.gif
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i give up moddin edi...... just start the car and slam the gas pedal hahaha.....

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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Aug 8 2012, 03:22 PM)
Go half cut shop find lar, sure a lot.
Gonna mate it with 4G18 stroker kit is it? brows.gif
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Yea.. planning to get the block then send to rebore and rebuild it with 4G18 stroker kit then only swap with my 4G13
my place so few halfcut shop available... last week went to asked one halfcut shop, he said all whole set engine together need 2k+ shakehead.gif


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QUOTE(mxsteven @ Aug 8 2012, 03:29 PM)
i give up moddin edi...... just start the car and slam the gas pedal hahaha.....
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hahaha... i slam the pedal every day when climbing tauge road, but the RPM crawling up so slow even with gear 2.... if slam with gear 1 then engine like wanna pecah tongue.gif got once i slam till rev cut! hahaha

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Whole set engine means half cut ar? Ask for engine kosong / engine lantai. It only come with the block and head, some time intake too. No other thing.
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Yeah... have to slam everyday....... well see end of the year how.... if cannot tahan the power, i will have to fit in my 4G15 BOT kit....
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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Aug 8 2012, 03:54 PM)
Whole set engine means half cut ar? Ask for engine kosong / engine lantai. It only come with the block and head, some time intake too. No other thing.
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not halfcut, just the engine kosong... Normally it cost how much for a decent 1.5 engine kosong? As some they left it on the floor till very rusty...
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QUOTE(GKWong @ Aug 8 2012, 05:51 PM)
not halfcut, just the engine kosong... Normally it cost how much for a decent 1.5 engine kosong? As some they left it on the floor till very rusty...
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last time is RM800 now i dunno
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QUOTE(mxsteven @ Aug 8 2012, 02:46 PM)
4G92 there is no cable to adjust however your issue seems like your throttle cable loose... it can happen too if throttle cable too loose... for the 3AT it can be adjust.. because 3AT is mechanical driven and runs on a cable share with the throtle cable.
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Oh, I thought the down shifting is controlled by the TCU unit? Just like ECU, can't we just remap the settings?
For example, set it to down shift to 1st gear when the speed is slowed to 10kmph.
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QUOTE(GKWong @ Aug 8 2012, 03:32 PM)
Yea.. planning to get the block then send to rebore and rebuild it with 4G18 stroker kit then only swap with my 4G13
my place so few halfcut shop available... last week went to asked one halfcut shop, he said all whole set engine together need 2k+  shakehead.gif



rebore and rebuild wit 4G18 stroker kit total cost how much??? will it be more fuel efficient than 4G15??? since become 1.6L already haha flex.gif

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QUOTE(GKWong @ Aug 8 2012, 05:51 PM)
not halfcut, just the engine kosong... Normally it cost how much for a decent 1.5 engine kosong? As some they left it on the floor till very rusty...
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Dunno the price. Try ask around. Sometime small place can get cheaper, coz the shop last time get cheaper price and dunno that high demand have bring the price up.

QUOTE(jay @ Aug 8 2012, 08:22 PM)
rebore and rebuild wit 4G18 stroker kit total cost how much??? will it be more fuel efficient than 4G15??? since become 1.6L already haha  flex.gif
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Should be more fuel efficient, but ultimately still depends on your right foot.
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QUOTE(mxsteven @ Aug 8 2012, 03:46 PM)
4G92 there is no cable to adjust however your issue seems like your throttle cable loose... it can happen too if throttle cable too loose... for the 3AT it can be adjust.. because 3AT is mechanical driven and runs on a cable share with the throtle cable.
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brows.gif there's something that caught my attention right here...bro you mean for my 3AT speed can adjust?

but then adjusting means what? adjusting the gear ratio? if yes then how? isit like i can set it when to downshift my gear and when to upshift??

thanks!!
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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Aug 8 2012, 09:21 PM)
Should be more fuel efficient, but ultimately still depends on your right foot.
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if can do better than 9.8L/km then good enough for me liao hahaha rclxms.gif

price for conversion?? brows.gif
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Power steering suddenly turned heavier today... Went to workshop but the mech say nothing's wrong... But it is my car, I can really feel it is heavier d... This happen suddenly when I am driving, so can really feel it... Sigh... sad.gif
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QUOTE(IamRacist @ Aug 8 2012, 07:33 PM)
Oh, I thought the down shifting is controlled by the TCU unit? Just like ECU, can't we just remap the settings?
For example, set it to down shift to 1st gear when the speed is slowed to 10kmph.
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workin on TCU is not that easy like setting piggy back... it need to disassemble the language and recompile after edit... lotsa work unless u know how to do... basically there is no one gonna to do or do it for a low price.

4AT gearbox is a failure design.....


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QUOTE(carcraze66 @ Aug 8 2012, 09:25 PM)
brows.gif there's something that caught my attention right here...bro you mean for my 3AT speed can adjust?

but then adjusting means what? adjusting the gear ratio? if yes then how? isit like i can set it when to downshift my gear and when to upshift??

thanks!!
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VDO or MMC also have... u can set the tension where if u set it higher it will drop gear when u press part throttle... so u have to play around until desired settings.

you cant adjust the ratio

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QUOTE(mxsteven @ Aug 9 2012, 12:00 AM)
workin on TCU is not that easy like setting piggy back... it need to disassemble the language and recompile after edit... lotsa work unless u know how to do... basically there is no one gonna to do or do it for a low price.

4AT gearbox is a failure design.....

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Plus it's so damn old already which probably makes it even more difficult to solve.
And yea I have always thought the same thing too and it's about time they invent something more efficient to be used on regular cars rather than 4AT.
But I can't be too sure if it's the TCU that is the cause of delayed down shifting, instead might be the transmission control solenoid.

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QUOTE(mxsteven @ Aug 8 2012, 01:16 PM)
throttle body stepper motor issue... it will compensate RPM when there is a lod (eg lights on, fan, ac or etc)

Need to reset the stepper motor and see 1st

BTW your car is 1.5 MMC or VDO? what year is your car? Carburator or Fuel Injection?
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1.3 year 2001. erm. fuel injection. MMC or VDO i duno how to check.



QUOTE(xxboxx @ Aug 8 2012, 03:08 PM)
Most likely is the throttle body stepper motor.
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so... ask mechanic to do waht... clean the TB? and reset stepper?
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QUOTE(IvanWong1989 @ Aug 9 2012, 07:55 AM)
1.3 year 2001. erm. fuel injection. MMC or VDO i duno how to check.
so... ask mechanic to do waht... clean the TB? and reset stepper?
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if its VDO.... just cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif

but i believe yours is MMC.... probably the gear in the throttle body peach only.... buy new ones at any sparepart shop RM38-60.... replace then start the engine... kawtim
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QUOTE(jay @ Aug 8 2012, 08:22 PM)
rebore and rebuild wit 4G18 stroker kit total cost how much??? will it be more fuel efficient than 4G15??? since become 1.6L already haha  flex.gif
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Quite pricey
It should be more fuel efficient as your cc already increase, torque also increase
Very good low end torque biggrin.gif
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With great power comes great fuel efficiency! thumbup.gif But of course if your right foot is heavy then will consume more fuel...
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QUOTE(mxsteven @ Aug 9 2012, 11:24 AM)
if its VDO.... just  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif

but i believe yours is MMC.... probably the gear in the throttle body peach only.... buy new ones at any sparepart shop RM38-60.... replace then start the engine... kawtim
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actually if it's low rpm issue then can tune up? so that when it drops it won't drop too close to shaking point?
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QUOTE(k3v_84 @ Aug 8 2012, 11:49 PM)
Power steering suddenly turned heavier today... Went to workshop but the mech say nothing's wrong... But it is my car, I can really feel it is heavier d... This happen suddenly when I am driving, so can really feel it... Sigh... sad.gif
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haha...what to do.. sweat.gif .maybe u try other mechanic...but sometimes scare kena con also..haha
like my car sometimes i feel not right somewhere....go to my mechanic, he say no problem..nothing spoilt! dammmmmn... doh.gif nothing can do...so just bear with it...haha

so now my car sounds like going to break apart when going through uneven roads! haha..dont know whats the problem
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QUOTE(shinjite @ Aug 9 2012, 11:33 AM)
Quite pricey
It should be more fuel efficient as your cc already increase, torque also increase
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pricey as in pricier than engine transplant??
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QUOTE(IvanWong1989 @ Aug 8 2012, 08:22 AM)
sorry bout that, I'm don't know much bout car internals.

erm,

yea it died when gear was N.

also, if it is any help,

1. press throttle
2.engine rev up
3. release throttle
4, engine rev down, till it shudders/shakes, like want to die any moment
5. then rev back up to normal idle
gets worse when AC is on. or when I on the headlights.
also, nowadays the car feels sluggish in the morning, and the symptom above is worse in the mornings also.

petrol just pumped. so wouldn't be fuel kosong i think.

also.. it's my parent's car , but I'm using it for now. so I am not sure what maintenance it has gone through. though the timing belt , oil is all new. not sure bout others though.
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The workshop guy told me that it's the throttle body problem. Changing it cost 1k++. But servicing it needs rm100 without guarantee. But the end I only service it coz might change car already.

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pricey as in pricier than engine transplant??
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guys, i wanna ask, for my wira 1.6 auto, if i keep changing from Power mode to Eco mode and then Power mode again, will it causes damage to gearbox, or the switch?
Does power mode consume more fuel then eco mode eventho i maintain at 3k rpm 110kmh?
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dont8cum: Negligible difference

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QUOTE(shinjite @ Aug 9 2012, 10:46 PM)
dont8cum: Negligible difference
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actually got. with power mode i can reach like 5k rpm. if on eco mode it barely reach 3krpm. so pickup slower.
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QUOTE(dont8cum @ Aug 9 2012, 08:36 PM)
I had the same issue last week too!
The workshop guy told me that it's the throttle body problem. Changing it cost 1k++. But servicing it needs rm100 without guarantee. But the end I only service it coz might change car already.
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so after servicing it's better?
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QUOTE(IvanWong1989 @ Aug 9 2012, 11:33 PM)
so after servicing it's better?
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had been driving the car since monday until now. still no problem yet. but dont dare to use air con fan speed on 3 or 4 edi.
hopefully can tahan until opposition win GE and lower down cars price so that i can change car. haha
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haiz... then clean TB it is...

duno when i'll do it.

btw.. i read sumting bout idle screw? can it be used to raise the idle rpm ?


Added on August 10, 2012, 12:20 amanother question though.

wira aeroback 1.3... no tachometer/rpm meter... 11years age, 115000km


how to know whether rpm is dangerously high at 5th gear? let's say Im going at 90km/h but the sound from the engine 'seems' like quite loud. Pedal is not fully press though. i think 50% only. Afraid to press down anymore scared rpm too high but I have no way to make sure. =.=


I shift at 2-10 3-30 4-40 5-55
is that correct?

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QUOTE(IvanWong1989 @ Aug 9 2012, 11:53 PM)
haiz... then clean TB it is...

duno when i'll do it.

btw.. i read sumting bout idle screw? can it be used to raise the idle rpm ?


Added on August 10, 2012, 12:20 amanother question though.

wira aeroback 1.3... no tachometer/rpm meter... 11years age, 115000km
how to know whether rpm is dangerously high at 5th gear? let's say Im going at 90km/h but the sound from the engine 'seems' like quite loud. Pedal is not fully press though. i think 50% only. Afraid to press down anymore scared rpm too high but I have no way to make sure. =.=
I shift at 2-10 3-30 4-40 5-55
is that correct?
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When car is moving in 5th gear, it will never hit the max pm, don't worry... And for the changing gear, it is really depends on individual... For me, your gear shift too fast... I usually rev higher befor gear change... But anyway, if u don't feel the car is underpower after gear change, then why not? No prob...
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QUOTE(dont8cum @ Aug 9 2012, 11:06 PM)
actually got. with power mode i can reach like 5k rpm. if on eco mode it barely reach 3krpm. so pickup slower.
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2k rpm difference is because you never press your pedal, try pedal to the metal and see
PWR and ECO mode in the end, just the change of gears for ECO is faster, PWR lets you drag the gears

In the end, negligible difference for me
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QUOTE(IvanWong1989 @ Aug 9 2012, 11:53 PM)
wira aeroback 1.3... no tachometer/rpm meter... 11years age, 115000km
how to know whether rpm is dangerously high at 5th gear? let's say Im going at 90km/h but the sound from the engine 'seems' like quite loud. Pedal is not fully press though. i think 50% only. Afraid to press down anymore scared rpm too high but I have no way to make sure. =.=
I shift at 2-10 3-30 4-40 5-55
is that correct?
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yeah, as stated, no worries on 5th gear for 1.3. My friend Iswara stock car, step maximum also 150km/h+ only. Don't know take how long distance to reach that speed, like 3-5km on highway. If downhill can touch 160.
Won't red-line one on 5th gear.

Shifting is depends, as long as engine not jerking. Some shift early to save petrol. Some like to rev mid-line. Some like to rev 9 9 before upshift brows.gif

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QUOTE(shinjite @ Aug 10 2012, 08:09 AM)
2k rpm difference is because you never press your pedal, try pedal to the metal and see
PWR and ECO mode in the end, just the change of gears for ECO is faster, PWR lets you drag the gears

In the end, negligible difference for me
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i always pedal to the floor one. no matter overtake, switch lane or normal straight road. but on ECO mode it always reach like 2.5k rpm den change gear, the rpm lower down liao.
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QUOTE(dont8cum @ Aug 10 2012, 05:02 PM)
i always pedal to the floor one. no matter overtake, switch lane or normal straight road. but on ECO mode it always reach like 2.5k rpm den change gear, the rpm lower down liao.
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Your ECO mode has problems if you press it fully down and it shifts at 2.5k as it shouldn't be like that
Mine ECO mode, it shifts at 5.5k, for PWR mode it shifts at 6k if pedal to the metal

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QUOTE(k3v_84 @ Aug 10 2012, 12:46 AM)
When car is moving in 5th gear, it will never hit the max pm, don't worry... And for the changing gear, it is really depends on individual... For me, your gear shift too fast... I usually rev higher befor gear change... But anyway, if u don't feel the car is underpower after gear change, then why not? No prob...
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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Aug 10 2012, 12:05 PM)
yeah, as stated, no worries on 5th gear for 1.3. My friend Iswara stock car, step maximum also 150km/h+ only. Don't know take how long distance to reach that speed, like 3-5km on highway. If downhill can touch 160.
Won't red-line one on 5th gear.

Shifting is depends, as long as engine not jerking. Some shift early to save petrol. Some like to rev mid-line. Some like to rev 9 9 before upshift  brows.gif
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okay... though i just stepped on the pedal just now... for a bit.. engine rev sound to me loud.. so i got scared and stayed at 90 lol..


and yah... engine died when i was shifting gear behind a truck... zzzz.. 2nd time now...
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QUOTE(IvanWong1989 @ Aug 10 2012, 06:09 PM)
okay... though i just stepped on the pedal just now... for a bit.. engine rev sound to me loud.. so i got scared and stayed at 90 lol..
and yah... engine died when i was shifting gear behind a truck... zzzz.. 2nd time now...
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time to service bro. should be the throttle body problem.

i have this problem long time ago. last time went to another workshop the guy keep tell me is battery problem i change it like once per year.
few weeks only know is throttle body issue.


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QUOTE(shinjite @ Aug 10 2012, 06:04 PM)
Your ECO mode has problems if you press it fully down and it shifts at 2.5k as it shouldn't be like that
Mine ECO mode, it shifts at 5.5k, for PWR mode it shifts at 6k if pedal to the metal
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ur ECO mode shifts at 5.5k is when u floor the pedal right?

i wanna ask. when the engine is loud, are we the only one that hears it, or othe other car next to us also can listen the sound?

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QUOTE(dont8cum @ Aug 11 2012, 01:01 AM)
time to service bro. should be the throttle body problem.

i have this problem long time ago. last time went to another workshop the guy keep tell me is battery problem i change it like once per year.
few weeks only know is throttle body issue.

could it also be fuel pump issue?

hmm...

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QUOTE(dont8cum @ Aug 11 2012, 01:01 AM)
ur ECO mode shifts at 5.5k is when u floor the pedal right?
i wanna ask. when the engine is loud, are we the only one that hears it, or othe other car next to us also can listen the sound?
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Yes, when I pedal to the metal
And of course, did some tests along the way too.....found out ECO and PWR mode has negligible differences as mileage I am getting is so close between each other and of course I play with the gearing, not putting it at D all the time. So with gearing I can drag the gear on ECO mode till 6.5k

Other cars too can hear it side by side
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QUOTE(shinjite @ Aug 11 2012, 11:05 AM)
Yes, when I pedal to the metal
And of course, did some tests along the way too.....found out ECO and PWR mode has negligible differences as mileage I am getting is so close between each other and of course I play with the gearing, not putting it at D all the time. So with gearing I can drag the gear on ECO mode till 6.5k

Other cars too can hear it side by side
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when they say playing with the gear will damge the GB, shorten the GB's lifespan, how much damage will it cost? like after a few month got problem? or need to wait for another few years?

my fren always do engine breaking since the first day he got his car. until now 5 years edi GB still working good.
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QUOTE(dont8cum @ Aug 11 2012, 01:19 PM)
when they say playing with the gear will damge the GB, shorten the GB's lifespan, how much damage will it cost? like after a few month got problem? or need to wait for another few years?

my fren always do engine breaking since the first day he got his car. until now 5 years edi GB still working good.
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Mine was the first batch 1.6 1993 and the GB didn't brake down till I converted it to manual in 2008
Of course I started using the gearing method way back in 2002, so 6 years of hard abusing and it didn't fail on me, so I was lucky

It boils down to luck really but heard major issues with later batches and also perdana GBs on the high failure rates
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QUOTE(shinjite @ Aug 11 2012, 01:31 PM)
Mine was the first batch 1.6 1993 and the GB didn't brake down till I converted it to manual in 2008
Of course I started using the gearing method way back in 2002, so 6 years of hard abusing and it didn't fail on me, so I was lucky

It boils down to luck really but heard major issues with later batches and also perdana GBs on the high failure rates
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i think mine is the 1996 or 97 one.

ok so if i wanna play with the gear, i should put it to L, go up until 6.5k rpm (that's where the redline start), den make it to 2, go to 6.5k rpm again, and den OD 6.5k, and D correct? like this can get the maximum acceleration?
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QUOTE(shinjite @ Aug 11 2012, 01:31 PM)
Mine was the first batch 1.6 1993 and the GB didn't brake down till I converted it to manual in 2008
Of course I started using the gearing method way back in 2002, so 6 years of hard abusing and it didn't fail on me, so I was lucky

It boils down to luck really but heard major issues with later batches and also perdana GBs on the high failure rates
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wow! you have been using the Wira for ten years. thumbup.gif
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any sifu here change the door rubber before...?
as i plan to change mine...
coz the wind coming in to the car quite serious already...
very noisy when cruising...
any link for good & reasonable price replacement door rubber...?
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ok..Guys...i seriously need some help here...just now i was washing my car and found out something...my steering rack driver's side rubber was broken into half...and i tried to touch it and all those oil is there...gosh..what should i do now?

is there any effect on the broken rubber? im going to change it maybe monday...sigh....

thanks for ur help
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QUOTE(carcraze66 @ Aug 11 2012, 04:23 PM)
ok..Guys...i seriously need some help here...just now i was washing my car and found out something...my steering rack driver's side rubber was broken into half...and i tried to touch it and all those oil is there...gosh..what should i do now?

is there any effect on the broken rubber? im going to change it maybe monday...sigh....

thanks for ur help
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got check your power steering fluid got decrease or not?
confirm steering rack or drive shaft?
most probably is the grease. better to change it early as later might became worse.
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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Aug 11 2012, 06:10 PM)
got check your power steering fluid got decrease or not?
confirm steering rack or drive shaft?
most probably is the grease. better to change it early as later might became worse.
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hey bro..thanks for reply..btw its the steering rack...and after google i found they called it steering boot?..haha..anyway below is the pic of the broken place...i copied the photo online..haha

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QUOTE(carcraze66 @ Aug 11 2012, 05:16 PM)
hey bro..thanks for reply..btw its the steering rack...and after google i found they called it steering boot?..haha..anyway below is the pic of the broken place...i copied the photo online..haha

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i think can change the steering boot only. if change steering rack gonna be costly.
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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Aug 11 2012, 06:53 PM)
i think can change the steering boot only. if change steering rack gonna be costly.
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cause when going through uneven road only driver side wheel will vibrating and klok klok sound..haha

anyway going to fix it on monday doh.gif
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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Aug 11 2012, 03:01 PM)
wow! you have been using the Wira for ten years. thumbup.gif
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Previously it was my mum's and then it went to my sister and finally me


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i think mine is the 1996 or 97 one.

ok so if i wanna play with the gear, i should put it to L, go up until 6.5k rpm (that's where the redline start), den make it to 2, go to 6.5k rpm again, and den OD 6.5k, and D correct? like this can get the maximum acceleration?
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To me the OD gear (4th) is only for cruising, it is too long, if you have turbo then can utilise the 4th gear
3rd gear maxed out at 185km/h at 6500rpm

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QUOTE(shinjite @ Aug 11 2012, 11:08 PM)
Yeah, the car was passed down to me around 2002
Previously it was my mum's and then it went to my sister and finally me


Added on August 11, 2012, 11:10 pm

To me the OD gear (4th) is only for cruising, it is too long, if you have turbo then can utilise the 4th gear
3rd gear maxed out at 185km/h at 6500rpm
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dafuq u dare to go up till 185kmh?

when i reach about 150kmh i can from the pedal the engine is turnning so damn fast. den i step till 170 and stop d.

kl / pj area full of cars. no place for me to test acceleration and top speed. have to go till klia that road =(
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my piston ring got sound already haih lol .. 12 year car ... 4g92 jus top overhaul not long now i think nid overhaul again haih...
btw izit normal when open aircond rpm drop alot? and my car wll shake when open aircond at idle...
rpm is around 800 without aircond with aircond sometime can maintain some time drop to 500~400
btw 1.6 top speed for stock is how much .. havent tried yet lol max i go is 140 then i stop punching it already

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QUOTE(NoobboyZzZ @ Aug 12 2012, 12:06 AM)
my piston ring got sound already haih lol .. 12 year car ... 4g92 jus top overhaul not long now i think nid overhaul again haih...
btw izit normal when open aircond rpm drop alot? and my car wll shake when open aircond at idle...
rpm is around 800 without aircond with aircond sometime can maintain some time drop to 500~400
btw 1.6 top speed for stock is how much .. havent tried yet lol max i go is 140 then i stop punching it already
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aircon on, shake at idle.
this happen to a few forumers here including me. the workshop guy say its throttle body problem. i even shake until mati engine in the middle of the road. luckily can start back immediately if not causes jam and ppl will start cursing me to death.

but never notice the rpm drop. mine idle at traffic light always 1krpm +- 200

i went up to 170kmh. everything stock except the rims, and entertaintment accesories. but it takes a very very long time to reach there.
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QUOTE(dont8cum @ Aug 12 2012, 12:21 AM)
aircon on, shake at idle.
this happen to a few forumers here including me. the workshop guy say its throttle body problem. i even shake until mati engine in the middle of the road. luckily can start back immediately if not causes jam and ppl will start cursing me to death.

but never notice the rpm drop. mine idle at traffic light always 1krpm +- 200

i went up to 170kmh. everything stock except the rims, and entertaintment accesories. but it takes a very very long time to reach there.
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some say throttle but after i clean it still same maybe inside the throttle body is dirty ... owh ... u guy rpm is higher... mine is at 800 even after open aircond .. 170 hmm like that 1.5 also can rape us easily lol
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QUOTE(NoobboyZzZ @ Aug 12 2012, 01:31 AM)
some say throttle but after i clean it still same maybe inside the throttle body is dirty ... owh ... u guy rpm is higher... mine is at 800 even after open aircond .. 170 hmm like that 1.5 also can rape us easily lol
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shinjite made it to 185kmh.

but when u race, got go until that fast?

normally i overtake myvi at 140 liddat. they dont dare go faster i think.

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Once you have converted to a manual, welcome to the world >200km/h biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(shinjite @ Aug 12 2012, 02:33 AM)
Once you have converted to a manual, welcome to the world >200km/h biggrin.gif
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speed cut at 180km/h cry.gif
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QUOTE(shiyau @ Aug 12 2012, 02:37 AM)
speed cut at 180km/h  cry.gif
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What's speed cut?

I see new cars website they have written Max speed on the spec page. Like for safa flx is 165km. Any Possibility go higher than that?
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QUOTE(dont8cum @ Aug 12 2012, 02:35 AM)
U not afraid? Milo tin + no air bag + old car old engine + Malaysia road sucks condition + saman
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speed cut at 180km/h  cry.gif
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If you have speed cut, you are not running with an original proton engine
Proton engines don't have speed cuts, they have rev cuts

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What's rev cut?


Added on August 12, 2012, 3:03 amWhat's rev cut?

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sometimes myvi is very fast on the highway...
and also saga blm...
i see them over take me when i'm cruising at around 170kmph...
den 1 time i follow a stock gen-2...
my meter already sangkut @ 190kmph and i still follow behind him...
but still increase abit by abit...
and still can't overtake also...
i was like wtf...
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QUOTE(dont8cum @ Aug 12 2012, 01:44 AM)
shinjite made it to 185kmh.

but when u race, got go until that fast?

normally i overtake myvi at 140 liddat. they dont dare go faster i think.
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mine is manual 5th gear btw i manage to pull to 110~120 at 3rd gear 4th not tried...
btw myvi 1.3 auto top speed around 140~150 nia easy to potong them plus
myvi at 140 like layang layang d that why i love wira more stable at high speed plus comfort


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What's rev cut?


Added on August 12, 2012, 3:03 amWhat's rev cut?
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rev cut is like rpm only can max at 7k rpm over that wont go futher

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QUOTE(Str33tBoY @ Aug 12 2012, 03:10 AM)
sometimes myvi is very fast on the highway...
and also saga blm...
i see them over take me when i'm cruising at around 170kmph...
den 1 time i follow a stock gen-2...
my meter already sangkut @ 190kmph and i still follow behind him...
but still increase abit by abit...
and still can't overtake also...
i was like wtf...
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On plus highway, myvi and saga really fast. They even dare to cucuk me while I'm driving my dad's 2.4cc sonata.
Maybe they mod their car alot to achieve that speed?
Let's post in the blm thread and find out haha


Added on August 12, 2012, 3:15 am[quote=NoobboyZzZ,Aug 12 2012, 03:12 AM]
mine is manual 5th gear btw i manage to pull to 110~120 at 3rd gear 4th not tried...
btw myvi 1.3 auto top speed around 140~150 nia easy to potong them plus
myvi at 140 like layang layang d that why i love wira more stable at high speed plus comfort

Why I hear friends bragging their myvi can go as high as 180 190?

Yea not stable. That's why I remain using Wira and didn't change to myvi or saga. Heh

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[quote=dont8cum,Aug 12 2012, 03:13 AM]
On plus highway, myvi and saga really fast. They even dare to cucuk me while I'm driving my dad's 2.4cc sonata.
Maybe they mod their car alot to achieve that speed?
Let's post in the blm thread and find out haha


Added on August 12, 2012, 3:15 am[quote=NoobboyZzZ,Aug 12 2012, 03:12 AM]
mine is manual 5th gear btw i manage to pull to 110~120 at 3rd gear 4th not tried...
btw myvi 1.3 auto top speed around 140~150 nia easy to potong them plus
myvi at 140 like layang layang d that why i love wira more stable at high speed plus comfort

Why I hear friends bragging their myvi can go as high as 180 190?

Yea not stable. That's why I remain using Wira and didn't change to myvi or saga. Heh
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duno , i ride my friend at cheras batu 9 to cheras batu 11 , full throttle all the way also max around 140~150 also hardly achieve ...could be manual different ... like
satria 1.6 auto top speed also 160 only lol laugh.gif

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Maybe cuz u fetch friend so have extra weight?
My friend always brag his saga can go 180. I scare it's real so don't dare ask to race lol

Would like to ask, my Wira the temperature meter in dash board is always in the middle. I assume it's not normal? How to make it cooler?
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QUOTE(Str33tBoY @ Aug 12 2012, 03:10 AM)
sometimes myvi is very fast on the highway...
and also saga blm...
i see them over take me when i'm cruising at around 170kmph...
den 1 time i follow a stock gen-2...
my meter already sangkut @ 190kmph and i still follow behind him...
but still increase abit by abit...
and still can't overtake also...
i was like wtf...
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xceli blm 1.3 can do 170+ already. stock engine. ( do few times with my friend car, he drive btw.. me not dare lol)
and gen2, persona.. nvm them can hit 200+ even with passenger.


Added on August 12, 2012, 8:07 amand quite stable also

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QUOTE(carcraze66 @ Aug 11 2012, 06:00 PM)
yea...sigh...btw is this the problem affecting my vibrating wheel when going uneven road??  hmm.gif

cause when going through uneven road only driver side wheel will vibrating and klok klok sound..haha

anyway going to fix it on monday  doh.gif
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Does the steering feel got free play when moving at a lot small2 rock? Does the steering feel like not solid enough?
The probably is the steering rack problem.

The klok klok sound is because some bushing already worn out. Maybe is lower arm bushings, or steering rack bushings, or tie rod end.

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my piston ring got sound already haih lol .. 12 year car ... 4g92 jus top overhaul not long now i think nid overhaul again haih...
btw izit normal when open aircond rpm drop alot? and my car wll shake when open aircond at idle...
rpm is around 800 without aircond with aircond sometime can maintain some time drop to 500~400
btw 1.6 top speed for stock is how much .. havent tried yet lol max i go is 140 then i stop punching it already
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What does piston ring sounds like??
Your throttle body bottom part gearing need servicing or replacement.

QUOTE(NoobboyZzZ @ Aug 12 2012, 01:31 AM)
some say throttle but after i clean it still same maybe inside the throttle body is dirty ... owh ... u guy rpm is higher... mine is at 800 even after open aircond .. 170 hmm like that 1.5 also can rape us easily lol
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When cleaning the throttle body, do they take out and clean the gearing and apply new grease?

QUOTE(Str33tBoY @ Aug 12 2012, 03:10 AM)
sometimes myvi is very fast on the highway...
and also saga blm...
i see them over take me when i'm cruising at around 170kmph...
den 1 time i follow a stock gen-2...
my meter already sangkut @ 190kmph and i still follow behind him...
but still increase abit by abit...
and still can't overtake also...
i was like wtf...
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The new myvi? Old one if not mistaken top speed only 160km/h

QUOTE(dont8cum @ Aug 12 2012, 03:52 AM)
Maybe cuz u fetch friend so have extra weight?
My friend always brag his saga can go 180. I scare it's real so don't dare ask to race lol

Would like to ask, my Wira the temperature meter in dash board is always in the middle. I assume it's not normal? How to make it cooler?
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It should be always in the middle. Thats the optimum operating temperature.
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Afraid is one thing, experience is another thing
If you are so afraid, why go fast in the first place? smile.gif


Added on August 12, 2012, 2:54 am

If you have speed cut, you are not running with an original proton engine
Proton engines don't have speed cuts, they have rev cuts
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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Aug 12 2012, 08:41 AM)
Does the steering feel got free play when moving at a lot small2 rock? Does the steering feel like not solid enough?
The probably is the steering rack problem.

The klok klok sound is because some bushing already worn out. Maybe is lower arm bushings, or steering rack bushings, or tie rod end.
Almost done with the engine installation?
What does piston ring sounds like??
Your throttle body bottom part gearing need servicing or replacement.
When cleaning the throttle body, do they take out and clean the gearing and apply new grease?
The new myvi? Old one if not mistaken top speed only 160km/h
It should be always in the middle. Thats the optimum operating temperature.
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Guys, i just change all 4 new APM Performax absorber yesterday...Today i notice there is some hissing sound from the rear left when go over small and high (not sure if its call high) bump..

Is this normal?

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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Aug 12 2012, 08:41 AM)

It should be always in the middle. Thats the optimum operating temperature.
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but i see others cars their needle is more towards the C

scare going too fast at high rpm engine will panas den got smoke come out ohmy.gif
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QUOTE(NoobboyZzZ @ Aug 12 2012, 01:06 AM)
my piston ring got sound already haih lol .. 12 year car ... 4g92 jus top overhaul not long now i think nid overhaul again haih...
btw izit normal when open aircond rpm drop alot? and my car wll shake when open aircond at idle...
rpm is around 800 without aircond with aircond sometime can maintain some time drop to 500~400
btw 1.6 top speed for stock is how much .. havent tried yet lol max i go is 140 then i stop punching it already
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bro can tell us how does the piston ring sound likes when got problem?? cause my wira recently when i rev there;s some funny sound...a very loud bass "grrrrrrr"...haha doh.gif
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QUOTE(dont8cum @ Aug 12 2012, 04:06 PM)
but i see others cars their needle is more towards the C

scare going too fast at high rpm engine will panas den got smoke come out  ohmy.gif
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you mean not in the middle, but slightly a bit lower? Wira is famous for this, it's not directly in the middle. but as long as the temp didn't go up should be fine.

if you still want to rectify it, got a lot of place that can result it to show temp not like other Wira. thermostat faulty, sensor faulty, clogged radiator, fan faulty, water pump faulty, meter faulty, just to name a few.
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QUOTE(shiyau @ Aug 12 2012, 12:28 PM)
yup.. 4g93t whistling.gif
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Added on August 12, 2012, 9:29 pm
QUOTE(xxboxx @ Aug 12 2012, 09:24 PM)
you mean not in the middle, but slightly a bit lower? Wira is famous for this, it's not directly in the middle. but as long as the temp didn't go up should be fine.

if you still want to rectify it, got a lot of place that can result it to show temp not like other Wira. thermostat faulty, sensor faulty, clogged radiator, fan faulty, water pump faulty, meter faulty, just to name a few.
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Sometimes it is the meter which is faulty, mine now up till red zone already the temp meter
Still can on aircond and run nicely lolol

Normally once it reaches red, your aircond wouldn't work

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Wow, quite active this forum on wira.
I have a wira 1.5 due for major service soon.Any suggestion for an auto shop to do this service, at the same time that can review and do its absorbers around Damansara area? Keeps hitting bumps when 5 people and at slow speed, inching bit by bit still scratch the bottom.
Need to be not pricy and can advice honestly.

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QUOTE(carcraze66 @ Aug 12 2012, 09:09 PM)
bro can tell us how does the piston ring sound likes when got problem?? cause my wira recently when i rev there;s some funny sound...a very loud bass "grrrrrrr"...haha doh.gif
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issit your drop-in air filter not installed correctly? Normally the bass sound come from there or a leaking exhaust pipe. If piston ring, then u will see white smoke when reving...

QUOTE(shinjite @ Aug 12 2012, 09:24 PM)
HAH main tipu eh? lol


Added on August 12, 2012, 9:29 pm

Sometimes it is the meter which is faulty, mine now up till red zone already the temp meter
Still can on aircond and run nicely lolol

Normally once it reaches red, your aircond wouldn't work
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my VDO normally when over middle or 100degree celcius, the compressor will cut off.. Previously having clogged radiator, so temp rised when uphill or high speed... My temp and fuel gauges i remove the meter cluster and re-soldered the gauge circuitry then it is working fine already...
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QUOTE(tboxmy @ Aug 12 2012, 10:28 PM)
Wow, quite active this forum on wira.
I have a wira 1.5 due for major service soon.Any suggestion for an auto shop to do this service, at the same time that can review and do its absorbers around Damansara area? Keeps hitting bumps when 5 people and at slow speed, inching bit by bit still scratch the bottom.
Need to be not pricy and can advice honestly.
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everytime i fetch more den 4 ppl also sure hit bumps one. =/

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QUOTE(dont8cum @ Aug 13 2012, 01:03 AM)
everytime i fetch more den 4 ppl also sure hit bumps one. =/
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me oso..
thinking to put that rubber under spring ( wat ppl call eh, pelapik? )
see some wira higher when using that
is it good idea and how much actually
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QUOTE(salimbest83 @ Aug 13 2012, 02:00 AM)
me oso..
thinking to put that rubber under spring ( wat ppl call eh, pelapik? )
see some wira higher when using that
is it good idea and how much actually
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U mean the bush on the upper part of spring? It is only applied to the rear,comes in 3 sizes... 1,2 and 3 inch... But don't put it too high coz will make your car very bouncy and quite dangerous when cornering...
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QUOTE(k3v_84 @ Aug 13 2012, 02:45 AM)
U mean the bush on the upper part of spring? It is only applied to the rear,comes in 3 sizes... 1,2 and 3 inch... But don't put it too high coz will make your car very bouncy and quite dangerous when cornering...
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Mosrly ppl who wan carry alot stock use this right
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QUOTE(dont8cum @ Aug 13 2012, 03:04 AM)
Mosrly ppl who wan carry alot stock use this right
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How about if change to wira 1.6 absorber which are stiffer?so tat car wont be lowered too much when carry too much..
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QUOTE(k3v_84 @ Aug 13 2012, 02:45 AM)
U mean the bush on the upper part of spring? It is only applied to the rear,comes in 3 sizes... 1,2 and 3 inch... But don't put it too high coz will make your car very bouncy and quite dangerous when cornering...
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yeah. i think so. need to make higher abit

QUOTE(shen1716 @ Aug 13 2012, 06:24 AM)
How about if change to wira 1.6 absorber which are stiffer?so tat car wont be lowered too much when carry too much..
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wira 1.6 absorber.
if not to much i can consider change.
btw need to change 4 side or just rear ony hmm.gif
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QUOTE(shen1716 @ Aug 13 2012, 06:24 AM)
How about if change to wira 1.6 absorber which are stiffer?so tat car wont be lowered too much when carry too much..
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AFAIK rear absorber is the same, just spring rate different... If front, then absorber different so need to change both... And yeah, getting a stiffer spring is definately a better choice IMO...


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QUOTE(salimbest83 @ Aug 13 2012, 08:24 AM)
yeah. i think so. need to make higher abit
wira 1.6 absorber.
if not to much i can consider change.
btw need to change 4 side or just rear ony hmm.gif
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The bush cost RM 10-20 /pc, spring is RM 60-80 /pc (price from spare part shop exclude labour)... U can change rear only depends on your need...

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so far I am using back the original bush for my rear absorber, but paired with Waja rear spring which is stiffer. Can said very impressive icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(k3v_84 @ Aug 13 2012, 10:24 AM)
AFAIK rear absorber is the same, just spring rate different... If front, then absorber different so need to change both... And yeah, getting a stiffer spring is definately a better choice IMO...


Added on August 13, 2012, 10:28 am

The bush cost RM 10-20 /pc, spring is RM 60-80 /pc (price from spare part shop exclude labour)... U can change rear only depends on your need...
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owh. stil around my budget below 250.
just change spring is enuff rite..

QUOTE(GKWong @ Aug 13 2012, 10:34 AM)
so far I am using back the original bush for my rear absorber, but paired with Waja rear spring which is stiffer. Can said very impressive  icon_rolleyes.gif
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waja spring make car higher or not? need some clearance coz my area got big2 speed bump.
if not slow enuff sure will sangkut my exhaust mid bottle. even single person inside
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QUOTE(salimbest83 @ Aug 13 2012, 11:17 AM)
owh. stil around my budget below 250.
just change spring is enuff rite..
waja spring make car higher or not? need some clearance coz my area got big2 speed bump.
if not slow enuff sure will sangkut my exhaust mid bottle. even single person inside
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a bit higher than Wira original spring like 1-2 finger
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1.6 spring is stiffer, Waja spring is longer... Depends on what u want... For me I will prefer 1.6 spring for better handling... smile.gif
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QUOTE(shen1716 @ Aug 13 2012, 06:24 AM)
How about if change to wira 1.6 absorber which are stiffer?so tat car wont be lowered too much when carry too much..
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Then your car become very bumpy hmm.gif

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QUOTE(GKWong @ Aug 13 2012, 12:09 AM)
issit your drop-in air filter not installed correctly? Normally the bass sound come from there or a leaking exhaust pipe. If piston ring, then u will see white smoke when reving...
my VDO normally when over middle or 100degree celcius, the compressor will cut off.. Previously having clogged radiator, so temp rised when uphill or high speed... My temp and fuel gauges i remove the meter cluster and re-soldered the gauge circuitry then it is working fine already...
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i see...haha..thanks bro for ur info... smile.gif btw i think the bass sound is my air filter...cause once i changed to a new airfilter then got this sound adi...haha
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hello guys. previously i came in asking bout engine dying off when idle or while driving and turning thing?

problem solved, changed spark plugs, cleaned throttle body.

thx guys.


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at least the idle undershoot is gone. but now it feels like.. throttle is "sticking". how to explain ah.. erm..

1.press pedal.
2.rev up
3.release pedal
4.revs stay the same for like 1 second
5. then only come down.
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not a problem anymore.

O.o...power is certainly back though. and no more shakiness.

btw.. another stupid question.

my wira doesn't have tachometer. so. wanna ask. what's the maximum rpm for wira 1.3? just curious.

and ur usual speed shift points?

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QUOTE(IvanWong1989 @ Aug 13 2012, 08:49 PM)
hello guys. previously i came in asking bout engine dying off when idle or while driving and turning thing?

problem solved, changed spark plugs, cleaned throttle body.

thx guys.

at least the idle undershoot is gone. but now it feels like.. throttle is "sticking". how to explain ah.. erm..

1.press pedal.
2.rev up
3.release pedal
4.revs stay the same for like 1 second
5. then only come down.
O.o...power is certainly back though. and no more shakiness. wonder is this normal.. hurm..

btw.. another stupid question.

my wira doesn't have tachometer. so. wanna ask. what's the maximum rpm for wira 1.3? just curious.

and ur usual speed shift points?
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can i know how much u pay for the spark plugs and cleaning TB? cuz if next time i got this problem again den wont kena con.

and i also got the "rev stay the same for 1 sec" thing. is it a problem? i tot it should be normal.

yours manual 1.3?
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QUOTE(IvanWong1989 @ Aug 13 2012, 08:49 PM)
hello guys. previously i came in asking bout engine dying off when idle or while driving and turning thing?

problem solved, changed spark plugs, cleaned throttle body.

thx guys.

at least the idle undershoot is gone. but now it feels like.. throttle is "sticking". how to explain ah.. erm..

1.press pedal.
2.rev up
3.release pedal
4.revs stay the same for like 1 second
5. then only come down.
O.o...power is certainly back though. and no more shakiness. wonder is this normal.. hurm..

btw.. another stupid question.

my wira doesn't have tachometer. so. wanna ask. what's the maximum rpm for wira 1.3? just curious.

and ur usual speed shift points?
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I think it's better u change ur meter or u add on a rpm meter... Rev cut I think should be around 6.5k rpm... Anyway, for normal drive g2@ 10-20, g3@ 40-50, g4@ 70-80 g5@ 100... If wanna rev kaw kaw, I will x2 from normal... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(k3v_84 @ Aug 13 2012, 09:44 PM)
I think it's better u change ur meter or u add on a rpm meter... Rev cut I think should be around 6.5k rpm... Anyway, for normal drive g2@ 10-20, g3@ 40-50, g4@ 70-80 g5@ 100... If wanna rev kaw kaw, I will x2 from normal... tongue.gif
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one question. change meter u mean is to recalibrate the meter in the dashboard right?
den add on meter is for?
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Any of you interested to buy lowered springs for wira 1.6-1.8, waja, gen 2? Rm100, original price Rm260. Used less than 1 year and still very red and clean biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(dont8cum @ Aug 13 2012, 09:48 PM)
one question. change meter u mean is to recalibrate the meter in the dashboard right?
den add on meter is for?
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u can change the whole meter panel from wira 1.5/1.6 that have rpm meter... should cost around 200-300... Or u can buy those aftermarket meter such as defi rpm meter and add it on your dashboard...
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I'm driving 1.3 too...=D
My normal drive G1@0-20 G2@20-40 G3@40-60 G4@60-75/80 G5@80 & above...i wonder what rpm range i'm driving at...
Duno should get a big tacho on dashboard or change the meter panel...
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QUOTE(carcraze66 @ Aug 12 2012, 09:09 PM)
bro can tell us how does the piston ring sound likes when got problem?? cause my wira recently when i rev there;s some funny sound...a very loud bass "grrrrrrr"...haha doh.gif
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like metal sound from the engine lol .. my friend forman cakap is piston ring when rev a bit will come but slow down will no sound like ching ching ching sound
will paint and chg absorber when i got enough bucks ...
12 year absorber havent fail me but i nid to admit wira really too low sleep.gif .. i care 2 people also can kena bump zzz

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I might be getting the drop in air filter for my car this Friday. Just wanna know how much different in the acceleration and horsepower can I see with it?
If the difference is negligible den I might continue save the money for exhaust changing first.

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QUOTE(dont8cum @ Aug 14 2012, 02:35 AM)
I might be getting the drop in air filter for my car this Friday. Just wanna know how much different in the acceleration and horsepower can I see with it?
dental difference is negligible den I might continue save the money for exhaust changing first.
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drop in filter wont effect much if u dont do major mod.. effect only 1~5 % diff ... and need to depend engine condition
hear this from my sifu
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QUOTE(NoobboyZzZ @ Aug 14 2012, 02:39 AM)
drop in filter wont effect much if u dont do major mod.. effect only 1~5 % diff ... and need to depend engine condition
hear this from my sifu
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Current my 0-100 is like 12sec. I don't care bout top speed.
If I wan to make it 0-100 10.5 sec, do I have to do major mod?
Will putting on only the air filter decrease me time to 11sec? Or still need 12sec?
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jus go for the exhaust mod , more power yo
airfilter is like cantik only if u dun do much on other part haha best airfilter + exhaust = best good breathing for engine
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QUOTE(dont8cum @ Aug 14 2012, 02:35 AM)
I might be getting the drop in air filter for my car this Friday. Just wanna know how much different in the acceleration and horsepower can I see with it?
If the difference is negligible den I might continue save the money for exhaust changing first.
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air filter if you want then I would recommend K&N, but it kinda expensive sweat.gif Will get better response with the throtle for sure. Or maybe you can get a 4-2-1 extractor first. Slowly upgrade 1 by 1 so you can feel the different smile.gif
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QUOTE(dont8cum @ Aug 13 2012, 09:40 PM)
can i know how much u pay for the spark plugs and cleaning TB? cuz if next time i got this problem again den wont kena con.

and i also got the "rev stay the same for 1 sec" thing. is it a problem? i tot it should be normal.

yours manual 1.3?
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erm.. i drove it today.. maybe i was imagining things. It's ok now. everything normal. haha

=.=.. i aso duno i got kena potong or not. lol..

change oil filter, engine oil, clean TB, and the air intake thingy, change spark plugs, refill anti rust coolant.

all for rm 130.


QUOTE(k3v_84 @ Aug 13 2012, 09:44 PM)
I think it's better u change ur meter or u add on a rpm meter... Rev cut I think should be around 6.5k rpm... Anyway, for normal drive g2@ 10-20, g3@ 40-50, g4@ 70-80 g5@ 100... If wanna rev kaw kaw, I will x2 from normal... tongue.gif
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O.o.. different from my shift points. O.o i think i drive like aunty. lol..

g2@<15, g3@ 20-40, g4 @ 40-55 g5@ 60
lolx..
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[quote=IvanWong1989,Aug 14 2012, 02:39 PM]
erm.. i drove it today.. maybe i was imagining things. It's ok now. everything normal. haha

=.=.. i aso duno i got kena potong or not. lol..

change oil filter, engine oil, clean TB, and the air intake thingy, change spark plugs, refill anti rust coolant.

all for rm 130.



what engine oil your car using? sounds like reasonable pricing
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QUOTE(IvanWong1989 @ Aug 14 2012, 02:39 PM)
erm..  i drove it today.. maybe i was imagining things. It's ok now. everything normal. haha

=.=.. i aso duno i got kena potong or not. lol..

change oil filter, engine oil, clean TB, and the air intake thingy, change spark plugs, refill anti rust coolant.

all for rm 130.
O.o.. different from my shift points. O.o i think i drive like aunty. lol..

g2@<15, g3@ 20-40, g4 @ 40-55 g5@ 60 
lolx..
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thats damn cheap man. he told u just to "clean" throttle body, or he say "reprogramme throttle body"?

cuz my workshop man tell me he will REPROGRAM it. just the service TB thing is already 100++
den change engine oil and normal service everything, total cost is 300 liddat. i think i'm the one kena potong
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QUOTE(outpace @ Aug 14 2012, 04:25 PM)

what engine oil your car using? sounds like reasonable pricing
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erm. castrol gtx 15w-40.. O.o

QUOTE(dont8cum @ Aug 14 2012, 05:26 PM)
thats damn cheap man. he told u just to "clean" throttle body, or he say "reprogramme throttle body"?

cuz my workshop man tell me he will REPROGRAM it. just the service TB thing is already 100++
den change engine oil and normal service everything, total cost is 300 liddat. i think i'm the one kena potong
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clean tb. lol. no reprogram.

i dun even know tb can program?? O.o
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Change air filter to performance if engine stock basically u gain nothing at all... see mightycarmods air filter myth at utube.

from 12sec to 10sec 0-100 huhuhuhu that would need a massive mod if still wan to stick on NA.


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QUOTE(dont8cum @ Aug 14 2012, 05:26 PM)
thats damn cheap man. he told u just to "clean" throttle body, or he say "reprogramme throttle body"?

cuz my workshop man tell me he will REPROGRAM it. just the service TB thing is already 100++
den change engine oil and normal service everything, total cost is 300 liddat. i think i'm the one kena potong
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confirm kene potong edi.... T/body only can reset or VDO called relearn .... u cant improve power... it just set back to normal operating condition unless reflash or rechip. so far Wira i have no solution yet.

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QUOTE(GKWong @ Aug 14 2012, 09:34 AM)
air filter if you want then I would recommend K&N, but it kinda expensive  sweat.gif Will get better response with the throtle for sure. Or maybe you can get a 4-2-1 extractor first. Slowly upgrade 1 by 1 so you can feel the different  smile.gif
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Can I know where do I find the extractor in my car? I scare previously my relative modded it but I Dono den go workshop give ppl potong again
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Hi , guys . Just wanted to ask some question about wira carburetor 1.5 .
My dad's wira which is about 15+ , lately being giving problem . The car will choke or vibrate during idling , then the engine will die off , which after could not be started . The first time , we call AAM and the service guy came and tested , taken the air filter out and pour fuel into the cab while starting it , then only the it starts . He say no fuel coming from the pump something like that . Then the car will be fine but it happen again this evening . my dad did the same and it started again .

btw , fuel filter , and the pump changed after the first incident but still have this problem .. hmm.gif
so what u guys think is wrong .

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QUOTE(dont8cum @ Aug 14 2012, 07:39 PM)
Can I know where do I find the extractor in my car? I scare previously my relative modded it but I Dono den go workshop give ppl potong again
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extractor is the exhaust part where connected directly to your engine block... just in front of your engine.
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Guys, anyone use Coil Spring Buffer?...will it make our ride higher?...any Cons if installed on old spring?...

i've recently change all 4 new absorber but using back my spring....My rear is stock and front is APM Sportec (i think, its purple color)...i wanted to raise the height abit more...Thinking of using Coil Spring Buffer instead of changing the spring...
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QUOTE(SinS @ Aug 14 2012, 09:24 PM)
Guys, anyone use Coil Spring Buffer?...will it make our ride higher?...any Cons if installed on old spring?...

i've recently change all 4 new absorber but using back my spring....My rear is stock and front is APM Sportec (i think, its purple color)...i wanted to raise the height abit more...Thinking of using Coil Spring Buffer instead of changing the spring...
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I recently installed on my front... Don't feel any different, height and performance... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(GKWong @ Aug 14 2012, 08:32 PM)
extractor is the exhaust part where connected directly to your engine block... just in front of your engine.
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hmm okay,

i stand infront on my car, i open up my bonet, and there's my engine in the middle, the air filter box on the left. and the black oil steel rode thing is on the right of the engine.

so where is my extractor? is it north of the engine or south?

from what i see just now, i think it's south(towards me) of the engine, and abit at the bottom, not visible from top. is it correct?
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QUOTE(dont8cum @ Aug 14 2012, 11:47 PM)
hmm okay,

i stand infront on my car, i open up my bonet, and there's my engine in the middle, the air filter box on the left. and the black oil steel rode thing is on the right of the engine.

so where is my extractor? is it north of the engine or south?

from what i see just now, i think it's south(towards me) of the engine, and abit at the bottom, not visible from top. is it correct?
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ok...this is the photo of wira engine...the red circle is extractor... smile.gif

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the extractor is under the metal plate if im not wrong...

user posted image

this is what they called 4-2-1 extractor...

hope this helps.... smile.gif

correct me if im wrong any other sifu notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(k3v_84 @ Aug 14 2012, 10:13 PM)
I recently installed on my front... Don't feel any different, height and performance... sweat.gif
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Didn't increase the height at all?...my intention is to raise the height a little bit..
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QUOTE(SinS @ Aug 14 2012, 11:08 PM)
Didn't increase the height at all?...my intention is to raise the height a little bit..
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Yup, did not increase at all... Kinda regret spending RM 50 for it... No different and very troublesome... Everytime jack up the car, need to slowly adjust it back... Thinking of uninstalling it, but very waste coz use less than 2 weeks... sad.gif


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QUOTE(carcraze66 @ Aug 14 2012, 10:55 PM)
ok...this is the photo of wira engine...the red circle is extractor... smile.gif

user posted image

the extractor is under the metal plate if im not wrong...

user posted image

this is what they called 4-2-1 extractor...

hope this helps.... smile.gif

correct me if im wrong any other sifu  notworthy.gif
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Yup, the picture no.1 is stock extractor coz the cover is still on... If the extractor has been change then usually the cover can't fit in...(example is like picture no.2)

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QUOTE(k3v_84 @ Aug 14 2012, 11:20 PM)
Yup, did not increase at all... Kinda regret spending RM 50 for it... No different and very troublesome... Everytime jack up the car, need to slowly adjust it back... Thinking of uninstalling it, but very waste coz use less than 2 weeks... sad.gif


Added on August 14, 2012, 11:23 pm

Yup, the picture no.1 is stock extractor coz the cover is still on... If the extractor has been change then usually the cover can't fit in...(example is like picture no.2)
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Seems like i need to opt for new spring instead of coil spring buffer...>.<

Guys, if i use Heavy Duty Rear spring for my wira 1.3 A/B, will the height increase or the height will be the same but its stiffer?
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QUOTE(carcraze66 @ Aug 14 2012, 10:55 PM)
ok...this is the photo of wira engine...the red circle is extractor... smile.gif

user posted image

the extractor is under the metal plate if im not wrong...

user posted image

this is what they called 4-2-1 extractor...

hope this helps.... smile.gif

correct me if im wrong any other sifu  notworthy.gif
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wow thanks! notworthy.gif rclxms.gif

den mine should be stock. cuz still have cover on it.
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QUOTE(dont8cum @ Aug 14 2012, 05:26 PM)
thats damn cheap man. he told u just to "clean" throttle body, or he say "reprogramme throttle body"?

cuz my workshop man tell me he will REPROGRAM it. just the service TB thing is already 100++
den change engine oil and normal service everything, total cost is 300 liddat. i think i'm the one kena potong
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Guess you are if you are VDO as like me.
where's your location ? blink.gif shakehead.gif blush.gif hmm.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif

VDO, TB cleaning thing (spray some red colour detergent, brush, air dry) + plug in that handheld device, deleted some error code, if not mistaken, he charged me RM60. Cost RM60-RM80 in JB.


I guess RM300 for :
engine oil change including labour + point checking/ services (you can do at home lah) + TB cleaning
if only he give me branded (Shell, Mobil, Petronas, Havoline, Castrol, Idemitsu and etc) fully synthetic oil, also depends how trust-able that shop is, rumors are that some shops selling fake oil. biggrin.gif



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excuse me all.. erm. may i ask..
when u want to refuel, ya open the fuel cap right. is there suppose to be vacuum sound of air pshshhhhhhh? or not?

edit:

also, i dun get what is VDO or MMC...

seen the word alot in the forum.. but i noobie duno what it means. just curious. some say VDO bad? ym car's vdo

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QUOTE(outpace @ Aug 15 2012, 06:26 PM)
Guess you are if you are VDO as like me.
where's your location ? blink.gif  shakehead.gif  blush.gif  hmm.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif

VDO, TB cleaning thing (spray some red colour detergent, brush, air dry) + plug in that handheld device, deleted some error code, if not mistaken, he charged me RM60. Cost RM60-RM80 in JB.
I guess RM300 for :
engine oil change including labour + point checking/ services (you can do at home lah) + TB cleaning
if only he give me branded (Shell, Mobil, Petronas, Havoline, Castrol, Idemitsu and etc) fully synthetic oil, also depends how trust-able that shop is, rumors are that some shops selling fake oil. biggrin.gif
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mine is semi synthetic one. 5000. dono what brand. forgot d.
Kepong area lo. KL. so maybe because the rental more expansive they charge more expansive?

by the way, whats VDO and how to check whether mine is VDO or not?


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QUOTE(IvanWong1989 @ Aug 15 2012, 08:12 PM)
excuse me all.. erm. may i ask..
when u want to refuel, ya open the fuel cap right. is there suppose to be vacuum sound of air pshshhhhhhh? or not?

edit:

also, i dun get what is VDO or MMC...

seen the word alot in the forum.. but i noobie duno what it means. just curious. some say VDO bad? ym car's vdo
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yes i have the "psssh" sound one. never bother it before cuz it doesnt explode. cool2.gif

and i also want to know whats VDO. and MMC? omg so many things to learn. sifu pls teach notworthy.gif

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QUOTE(dont8cum @ Aug 15 2012, 08:42 PM)
mine is semi synthetic one. 5000. dono what brand. forgot d.
Kepong area lo. KL. so maybe because the rental more expansive they charge more expansive?

by the way, whats VDO and how to check whether mine is VDO or not?


Added on August 15, 2012, 8:43 pm

yes i have the "psssh" sound one. never bother it before cuz it doesnt explode.  cool2.gif

and i also want to know whats VDO. and MMC? omg so many things to learn. sifu pls teach notworthy.gif
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oh no.. i no have shhhhh sound O.o
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QUOTE(IvanWong1989 @ Aug 15 2012, 08:54 PM)
oh no.. i no have shhhhh sound O.o
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Sometimes mine also don't have. Maybe it depends on the weather and surrounding pressure physic related stuff?
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QUOTE(IvanWong1989 @ Aug 15 2012, 08:12 PM)
excuse me all.. erm. may i ask..
when u want to refuel, ya open the fuel cap right. is there suppose to be vacuum sound of air pshshhhhhhh? or not?
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It is a normal sound, so open slowly for the pressure to even out less dramatically. Can also ask the shop to check the tank vent valve if have it.
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QUOTE(dont8cum @ Aug 15 2012, 08:42 PM)
mine is semi synthetic one. 5000. dono what brand. forgot d.
Kepong area lo. KL. so maybe because the rental more expansive they charge more expansive?

by the way, whats VDO and how to check whether mine is VDO or not?


Added on August 15, 2012, 8:43 pm

yes i have the "psssh" sound one. never bother it before cuz it doesnt explode.  cool2.gif

and i also want to know whats VDO. and MMC? omg so many things to learn. sifu pls teach notworthy.gif
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here most simple picture to kow which one is yours.
VDO
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MMC
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QUOTE(IvanWong1989 @ Aug 15 2012, 08:12 PM)
excuse me all.. erm. may i ask..
when u want to refuel, ya open the fuel cap right. is there suppose to be vacuum sound of air pshshhhhhhh? or not?
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Yes, mine has pssshh sound.

Depends on how much you refill each time also. If every time RM10-20, maybe won't have.
If once every full tank RM60-80, 99% should have.

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QUOTE(IvanWong1989 @ Aug 15 2012, 08:12 PM)
excuse me all.. erm. may i ask..
when u want to refuel, ya open the fuel cap right. is there suppose to be vacuum sound of air pshshhhhhhh? or not?

edit:

also, i dun get what is VDO or MMC...

seen the word alot in the forum.. but i noobie duno what it means. just curious. some say VDO bad? ym car's vdo
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Kindly refer to post 304, by “salimbest83”
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Anyone got experience using Coil Spring Buffer?...

From what i read online, some said the buffer will damage the spring, some said the buffer will damage the absorber, which make me confuse...

My intention to use the buffer is to increase my car height by around 1cm or more and make the suspension a little stiffer...
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QUOTE(SinS @ Aug 16 2012, 10:32 PM)
Anyone got experience using Coil Spring Buffer?...

From what i read online, some said the buffer will damage the spring, some said the buffer will damage the absorber, which make me confuse...

My intention to use the buffer is to increase my car height by around 1cm or more and make the suspension a little stiffer...
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been using it for over 5 years on my stock absorber last time. No issue at all. Till one day i found out the stock absorber started to leaking then i just replaced whole set. But now not using anymore.
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QUOTE(GKWong @ Aug 16 2012, 10:41 PM)
been using it for over 5 years on my stock absorber last time. No issue at all. Till one day i found out the stock absorber started to leaking then i just replaced whole set. But now not using anymore.
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Glad to hear that...how much height increase u get with the buffer?...does the suspension get stiffer by a lot or just a little??
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Glad to hear that...how much height increase u get with the buffer?...does the suspension get stiffer by a lot or just a little??
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can't really remember about the height... should be no more than 2inches increment. And yes the suspension does get stiffer a bit. Less rear bodyroll when pek corner brows.gif
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QUOTE(GKWong @ Aug 16 2012, 10:56 PM)
can't really remember about the height... should be no more than 2inches increment. And yes the suspension does get stiffer a bit. Less rear bodyroll when pek corner  brows.gif
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2inch so much o?... shocking.gif
You use on the rear only?...
I plan to use on all 4 spring (Front and Rear)... brows.gif
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QUOTE(SinS @ Aug 16 2012, 10:58 PM)
2inch so much o?... shocking.gif
You use on the rear only?...
I plan to use on all 4 spring (Front and Rear)... brows.gif
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rear only.. As always only the rear got banged to metal when getting over hump.
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QUOTE(GKWong @ Aug 16 2012, 11:15 PM)
rear only.. As always only the rear got banged to metal when getting over hump.
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I wonder can i use the buffer on sport spring?...
Right now my front is sport spring and rear is stock spring... biggrin.gif

Mind to share what suspension setup u using now?...
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today.. i become driver for my fren BLM 1.3 Auto.
i dare say its 1.3 feel more pickup n power than my 1.5 Se Auto..
stabilty, cornering wise.. BLM win also.. feel its suspension/absober ( stock)
more stiff n less roll than my wira..
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QUOTE(salimbest83 @ Aug 17 2012, 02:19 AM)
today.. i become driver for my fren BLM 1.3 Auto.
i dare say its 1.3 feel more pickup n power than my 1.5 Se Auto..
stabilty, cornering wise.. BLM win also.. feel its suspension/absober ( stock)
more stiff n less roll than my wira..
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I drove blm and felt real hard to accelerate to 40kmph. Sluggish to move from dead stop, don't have that low rev torque compared to my 1.6 wira and I need to rev more than 3000rpm on blm to keep in same acceleration pace as 2500rpm with my car. Maybe I am not used to blm?
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Guys, previously my wira fc was 7.X litres/100km, 15cents/km

after I've changed oil, sparks, clean tb. it seems like my FC skyrocketted.

It "Seems" la. I haven't drive long enuf to truly gauge(just one week).

wondering is it my foot problem(more powah now, so i think my foot aso heavier). or after service u guys experience such things also.

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QUOTE(SinS @ Aug 16 2012, 11:21 PM)
I wonder can i use the buffer on sport spring?...
Right now my front is sport spring and rear is stock spring... biggrin.gif

Mind to share what suspension setup u using now?...
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i've stated before earlier few pages ago.... currently using IMP Comfort absorber, front stock wira spring and rear waja spring. Front i am equipted with UR 4point strut bar.
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QUOTE(GKWong @ Aug 17 2012, 09:25 AM)
i've stated before earlier few pages ago.... currently using IMP Comfort absorber, front stock wira spring and rear waja spring. Front i am equipted with UR 4point strut bar.
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Bro, mind to share what tyre you using?...How much is the gap between tyre to fender for front and rear?...
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QUOTE(IamRacist @ Aug 17 2012, 04:29 AM)
I drove blm and felt real hard to accelerate to 40kmph. Sluggish to move from dead stop, don't have that low rev torque compared to my 1.6 wira and I need to rev more than 3000rpm on blm to keep in same  acceleration pace as 2500rpm with my car. Maybe I am not used to blm?
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cause my 1.5 3speed A is also very different from your 1.6 blush.gif
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QUOTE(SinS @ Aug 17 2012, 09:48 AM)
Bro, mind to share what tyre you using?...How much is the gap between tyre to fender for front and rear?...
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using 195/50/R15... i think should be 3-4 fingers gap between the tyre and fender
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QUOTE(IvanWong1989 @ Aug 15 2012, 08:54 PM)
oh no.. i no have shhhhh sound O.o
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QUOTE(dont8cum @ Aug 15 2012, 09:00 PM)
Sometimes mine also don't have. Maybe it depends on the weather and surrounding pressure physic related stuff?
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QUOTE(tboxmy @ Aug 15 2012, 11:51 PM)
It is a normal sound, so open slowly for the pressure to even out less dramatically. Can also ask the shop to check the tank vent valve if have it.
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you should have the sound as it's pressure accumulated from your fuel and it indicates that there's no leaking.. if your car got no shhhh sound, means the pressure is leaked to somewhere not thru the fuel cap.
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QUOTE(GKWong @ Aug 17 2012, 10:25 AM)
using 195/50/R15... i think should be 3-4 fingers gap between the tyre and fender
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I'm on 195/50/15 too... thumbup.gif
3-4 fingers for front and back?...

Thanks alot for all the info..As i've change absorber but not the spring...Still not satisfy with the ride height...
All of this will be great reference to me to decide which spring should i change to... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(IamRacist @ Aug 17 2012, 04:29 AM)
I drove blm and felt real hard to accelerate to 40kmph. Sluggish to move from dead stop, don't have that low rev torque compared to my 1.6 wira and I need to rev more than 3000rpm on blm to keep in same  acceleration pace as 2500rpm with my car. Maybe I am not used to blm?
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urs 1.6 thumbup.gif
sure la more power.

QUOTE(outpace @ Aug 17 2012, 10:04 AM)
cause my 1.5 3speed A is also very different from your 1.6 blush.gif
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i also think coz its our gearbox or waht.
but kinda love how blm feel. stable n go power even on stock.
1.3 summore..
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QUOTE(salimbest83 @ Aug 17 2012, 02:19 AM)
today.. i become driver for my fren BLM 1.3 Auto.
i dare say its 1.3 feel more pickup n power than my 1.5 Se Auto..
stabilty, cornering wise.. BLM win also.. feel its suspension/absober ( stock)
more stiff n less roll than my wira..
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last time i blame my parents why dont wan to change my 1.6 old wira to blm 1.3. cuz i tot saga will have better performance.

but after i drove my friend's car 1.3 blm SE. i feel damn slow. the steering very hard to turn, the brake so hard to press... maybe cuz i'm not use to it?

and now i'm proud of my wira cuz it's still faster den most of the saga and myvi on the road. =D rclxm9.gif
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[quote=outpace,Aug 17 2012, 10:04 AM]
cause my 1.5 3speed A is also very different from your 1.6 blush.gif

[quote=salimbest83,Aug 17 2012, 11:19 AM]
urs 1.6 thumbup.gif
sure la more power.

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But isn't the 1.5 wira not that far ahead when it comes to power with 1.6? Perhaps SVDO is the problem with the constant underpowerness? Honestly I haven't driven one before to know much so I think I must test drive one to really compare. But I have a feeling 1.5 is not bad at all seeing the 4g15 engine spec.

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Guys, Wira 1.3 Aeroback on stock absorber and stock spring, the front and rear height is the same or front slightly higher than the rear?...any idea on this?... hmm.gif

This post has been edited by SinS: Aug 17 2012, 09:33 PM
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QUOTE(carcraze66 @ Aug 14 2012, 10:55 PM)
ok...this is the photo of wira engine...the red circle is extractor... smile.gif

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the extractor is under the metal plate if im not wrong...

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this is what they called 4-2-1 extractor...

hope this helps.... smile.gif

correct me if im wrong any other sifu  notworthy.gif
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hi newbie here. My wira engine is exactly like the one in first pic. May i know the name of that engine? unsure.gif
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QUOTE(Kenny_kttk @ Aug 17 2012, 09:53 PM)
hi newbie here. My wira engine is exactly like the one in first pic. May i know the name of that engine? unsure.gif
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urs is auto? btw the one in the pic is 4G15...its actually showed on ur car... smile.gif same row with your chassis number..
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QUOTE(carcraze66 @ Aug 17 2012, 09:30 PM)
urs is auto? btw the one in the pic is 4G15...its actually showed on ur car... smile.gif same row with your chassis number..
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yup it is auto. Where can i find the chassis number huh? unsure.gif Actually that car is my grandpa gave me, when i received the car the engine already changed due to ori engine burned sweat.gif
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yup it is auto. Where can i find the chassis number huh? unsure.gif  Actually that car is my grandpa gave me, when i received the car the engine already changed due to ori engine burned sweat.gif
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It is somewhere near to your left side of the extractor... There will be a model and chassis number there...
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QUOTE(k3v_84 @ Aug 17 2012, 11:12 PM)
It is somewhere near to your left side of the extractor... There will be a model and chassis number there...
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hmm.. where is the extractor?
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hmm.. where is the extractor?
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Extractor is that thing circled on the above pict... When u are facing the extractor, look at the left side of it... The number is encraved somewhere next to the extractor...
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Extractor is that thing circled on the above pict... When u are facing the extractor, look at the left side of it... The number is encraved somewhere next to the extractor...
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oh i see, will see it on tomorrow morning smile.gif
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Guys, Wira 1.3 Aeroback on stock absorber and stock spring, the front and rear height is the same or front slightly higher than the rear?...any idea on this?... hmm.gif
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Anyone know about this?..
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Anyone know about this?..
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1.3 not sure, but 1.5 is front looks slightly higher... it is because the front wheel arch is bigger i guess?
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wondering 4g15 vs 4g92 which engine is more power?
feeling that 1.5 is better then 1.6 sleep.gif
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wondering 4g15 vs 4g92 which engine is more power?
feeling that 1.5 is better then 1.6 sleep.gif
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How can a lower cc engine can perform better than a higher cc engine if it is both same car model?@ sweat.gif Unless it is 10 years old 1.6 vs 1 year old 1.5 coz engine performance will decrease due to aging... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(NoobboyZzZ @ Aug 18 2012, 02:29 PM)
wondering 4g15 vs 4g92 which engine is more power?
feeling that 1.5 is better then 1.6 sleep.gif
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from Wiki:

4G15
The SOHC 4G15 displaces 1.5 L (1,468 cc) with a bore and stroke of 75.5 mm x 82.0mm. A version of the 4G15 was produced with gasoline multi port injection. It has approximately 92 hp (69 kW) on the 1993 Mirage model

4G92P SOHC 16 Valve
Total Displacement - 1597cc
Bore - 81.0mm
Stroke - 77.5mm
Compression Ratio - 10:1
Maximum Output (1) - 83 kW (113 PS; 111 bhp) @ 6,000 rpm & 137 N·m (101 ft·lbf) @ 5,000 rpm
Maximum Output (2) - 69 kW (94 PS; 93 bhp) @ 5,500 rpm & 135 N·m (100 ft·lbf) @ 4,000 rpm
(1): Early European and JDM versions with 20°/42° intake and 54°/2° exhaust valve timing
(2): General export and later European versions with 14°/58° intake and 52°/16° exhaust valve timing
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if got oil stains around the circle part at the valve cover means need to change gasket already??
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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Aug 18 2012, 07:22 PM)
from Wiki:

4G15
The SOHC 4G15 displaces 1.5 L (1,468 cc) with a bore and stroke of 75.5 mm x 82.0mm. A version of the 4G15 was produced with gasoline multi port injection. It has approximately 92 hp (69 kW) on the 1993 Mirage model

4G92P SOHC 16 Valve
Total Displacement - 1597cc
Bore - 81.0mm
Stroke - 77.5mm
Compression Ratio - 10:1
    Maximum Output (1) - 83 kW (113 PS; 111 bhp) @ 6,000 rpm & 137 N·m (101 ft·lbf) @ 5,000 rpm
    Maximum Output (2) - 69 kW (94 PS; 93 bhp) @ 5,500 rpm & 135 N·m (100 ft·lbf) @ 4,000 rpm
    (1): Early European and JDM versions with 20°/42° intake and 54°/2° exhaust valve timing
    (2): General export and later European versions with 14°/58° intake and 52°/16° exhaust valve timing
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My Wira 1.6 auto is the 1996 version. Am I the 4g92p (1) or (2)
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QUOTE(dont8cum @ Aug 18 2012, 09:09 PM)
My Wira 1.6 auto is the 1996 version. Am I the 4g92p (1) or (2)
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not sure but i'm guessing is (1) since Wira 1.6 is launched on 1993
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Mine is definitely the 113PS version XD
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QUOTE(shinjite @ Aug 18 2012, 11:26 PM)
Mine is definitely the 113PS version XD
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Any way we can check?

And I would like to know my car Fuel tank capacity too. Is it 40L?

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QUOTE(dont8cum @ Aug 19 2012, 12:25 AM)
Any way we can check?

And I would like to know my car Fuel tank capacity too. Is it 40L?
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Wira max is 50L
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Wira max is 50L
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i think all malaysia version 1.6 is 10x hp one
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My 4G13P blush.gif

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From the chart can see my car not really healthy.... sad.gif
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QUOTE(GKWong @ Aug 19 2012, 11:28 AM)
My 4G13P  blush.gif

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From the chart can see my car not really healthy....  sad.gif
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wtff is that....=.= cool graph... duno wat graph..
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QUOTE(GKWong @ Aug 19 2012, 11:28 AM)
My 4G13P  blush.gif

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From the chart can see my car not really healthy....  sad.gif
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You have a massive dip of torque at 3k to 4k, why like that?
And you are running crazy rich at the high end (AF ratio)

What mods did you do to your car?
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QUOTE(shinjite @ Aug 19 2012, 02:51 PM)
You have a massive dip of torque at 3k to 4k, why like that?
And you are running crazy rich at the high end (AF ratio)

What mods did you do to your car?
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yea.. I also don't know why there's a massive drop of torque between 3-4k. Also no idea why is that the A/F at high end is like able to feed for turbocharger rclxub.gif
And another problem is that you can see the power band is very jaggered... is like misfires but actually is not. Its been like that for many years. Changed new Bosch ignition coil, 10.5mm quadcore plug cables, iridium spark plugs, and new set of clutch also woundn't help on the engine hesitation. Can feel the jerkiness when climbing hill.
So far my ride not been equipted with any extreme mods;
- K&N drop-in filter
- 4-2-1 extractor
- Removed catalytic converter
- Lightened crank pulley
- Works A-FPR Stage 1
- 5-points grounding cables.
- External engine breather filter
- Quadcore 10.5mm plug cables
- Bosch Iridium Fusion Plugs

The workshop recommending me to install Works EMS to correct back the A/F ratio sweat.gif
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Jagged edges will be caused by ignition problems
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Jagged edges will be caused by ignition problems
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could it be the crank sensor? or the cam sensor? The foreman just told me might be cause by the crank sensor since this issue happened even before i changed the ignition coil, plug cables and spark plugs hmm.gif
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QUOTE(GKWong @ Aug 19 2012, 04:28 PM)
could it be the crank sensor? or the cam sensor? The foreman just told me might be cause by the crank sensor since this issue happened even before i changed the ignition coil, plug cables and spark plugs  hmm.gif
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Bro, where u do the dyno, and how much? Thinking of analyzing my ride... After few mods, the fuel went really crazy...!! RM50 can go 150km only...!! sweat.gif
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QUOTE(k3v_84 @ Aug 19 2012, 05:23 PM)
Bro, where u do the dyno, and how much? Thinking of analyzing my ride... After few mods, the fuel went really crazy...!! RM50 can go 150km only...!! sweat.gif
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What did you mod for yours?

Dyno market price is RM100 with AF graph
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if not mistaken, most manufacturer set the a/f to be rich on higher RPM to protect the engine.

and the torque dip probably due to the extractor and cat con.

if really wanted to put management (EMS, E-Manage), better to do all the extra mods that you wanted to do now. otherwise later do it then have to dyno-tune again.
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QUOTE(shinjite @ Aug 19 2012, 05:57 PM)
What did you mod for yours?

Dyno market price is RM100 with AF graph
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The last mods are 4g93 airflow sensor, ecu, and 240cc injector... sad.gif
Any recommended place for dyno around Rawang /KL/ PJ ?
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The last mods are 4g93 airflow sensor, ecu, and 240cc injector... sad.gif
Any recommended place for dyno around Rawang /KL/ PJ ?
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I meant by overall mods smile.gif

Recommended places for Dyno, GT Auto, Powerzone, Millenium Motorsports, JC Racing, Under5
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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Aug 19 2012, 07:10 PM)
if not mistaken, most manufacturer set the a/f to be rich on higher RPM to protect the engine.

and the torque dip probably due to the extractor and cat con.

if really wanted to put management (EMS, E-Manage), better to do all  the extra mods that you wanted to do now. otherwise later do it then have to dyno-tune again.
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yea... and most important i need to fix that jerking issue first, then only consider for other mods...
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QUOTE(shinjite @ Aug 19 2012, 10:49 PM)
I meant by overall mods smile.gif

Recommended places for Dyno, GT Auto, Powerzone, Millenium Motorsports, JC Racing, Under5
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1) Open pod filter
2) 2" from extractor to muffler
3) 4g93 camshafts + adj. cam pulleys (set for top speed)
4) 4g93 (Eterna) ECU
5) 4g93 Airflow sensor
6) 240cc injectors
7) Just converted from auto to manual (short ratio gb)

** Already bought Mivec's TB + Manifold, but haven't installed...
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QUOTE(k3v_84 @ Aug 19 2012, 11:11 PM)
1) Open pod filter
2) 2" from extractor to muffler
3) 4g93 camshafts + adj. cam pulleys (set for top speed)
4) 4g93 (Eterna) ECU
5) 4g93 Airflow sensor
6) 240cc injectors
7) Just converted from auto to manual (short ratio gb)

** Already bought Mivec's TB + Manifold, but haven't installed...
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No wonder, You just need to get your ECU tuned, then you're done

You are basically not running optimally

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QUOTE(shinjite @ Aug 19 2012, 11:47 PM)
No wonder, You just need to get your ECU tuned, then you're done

You are basically not running optimally
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U mean tune the ecu I'm using? Or installing ems? Am thinking to get 1... Maybe next month la... Tight on budget d... Haha... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(k3v_84 @ Aug 20 2012, 12:17 AM)
U mean tune the ecu I'm using? Or installing ems? Am thinking to get 1... Maybe next month la... Tight on budget d... Haha... tongue.gif
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You are using another engine's ECU, of course it won't run optimally
Just get a piggyback and tune it smile.gif


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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Aug 19 2012, 07:10 PM)
if not mistaken, most manufacturer set the a/f to be rich on higher RPM to protect the engine.

and the torque dip probably due to the extractor and cat con.

if really wanted to put management (EMS, E-Manage), better to do all  the extra mods that you wanted to do now. otherwise later do it then have to dyno-tune again.
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Yes, manufacturer's normally set AFR to rich on higher rpms but not until turbo charge like rich

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how much would manufacturer normally set for N/A engine?
around 13?
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how much would manufacturer normally set for N/A engine?
around 13?
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Full load at 12.8.... but newer cars all will maintain at 14.7 even at full load...

Preve surprisingly full boost also 14.0 afr wtf lolssssss
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my ride at 5.5k rpm the a/f ratio is below 12... Wondering issit just mine like that or other VDO engine also the same..
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Preve really confidence with their design.. doh.gif

btw, heard that Preve on stock sometime will got knocking..

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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Aug 20 2012, 11:20 AM)
Preve really confidence with their design.. doh.gif

btw, heard that Preve on stock sometime will got knocking..
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most of the preve runs lean... sure got knocking.... dunno which idiot design
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guys.. can I use Liqui Moly MOS2 leichtlauf 10w30 - Semi Synthetic

On my stock wira 1.5 Auto year 95?? or I should stick to 10w40 type???
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QUOTE(mxsteven @ Aug 20 2012, 09:29 AM)
Full load at 12.8.... but newer cars all will maintain at 14.7 even at full load...

Preve surprisingly full boost also 14.0 afr wtf lolssssss
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GUys, wanna ask... does ur wira roof have white spots on them???
then inside these white spots can see silver.. i think is the metal itself.. hmm.....


Added on August 21, 2012, 9:57 amany idea how to solve?


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QUOTE(IvanWong1989 @ Aug 21 2012, 09:57 AM)
GUys, wanna ask... does ur wira roof have white spots on them???
then inside these white spots can see silver.. i think is the metal itself.. hmm.....


Added on August 21, 2012, 9:57 amany idea how to solve?
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probably the paint already wear off. Better fix it soon before your roof rusted. Will need to grind off the old paint and reapply primer and the paint. Price depend on individual workshop and what kind of paint they use.
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QUOTE(GKWong @ Aug 21 2012, 10:12 AM)
probably the paint already wear off. Better fix it soon before your roof rusted. Will need to grind off the old paint and reapply primer and the paint. Price depend on individual workshop and what kind of paint they use.
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so... price estimation??? ... just to get heads up..


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QUOTE(IvanWong1989 @ Aug 21 2012, 10:32 AM)
so... price estimation??? ... just to get heads up..
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depends what type of paint your car needed, metallic or not. probably from RM300 to RM800
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guys.. can I use Liqui Moly MOS2 leichtlauf 10w30 - Semi Synthetic

On my stock wira 1.5 Auto year 95?? or I should stick to 10w40 type???

Before this i'm using Q8. ok la that oil.. but feel a bit heavy like no pickup..
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QUOTE(sickelmo @ Aug 21 2012, 02:35 PM)
guys.. can I use Liqui Moly MOS2 leichtlauf 10w30 - Semi Synthetic

On my stock wira 1.5 Auto year 95?? or I should stick to 10w40 type???

Before this i'm using Q8. ok la that oil.. but feel a bit heavy like no pickup..
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u can use if u fully rebuild your engine before. With all new gasket and oil seal and piston rings...etc. Else better stick to 10w40 to prevent oil leaking/missing.
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Anyone know how much it cost to replace wira 1.3 driveshaft or CV joint?
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guys...anyone installed stiff rings or chassis alignment kit on their wira? hehe...kinda poisoned by this recently..but dont know how much effect will i get after installing.. hmm.gif hmm.gif

would it solve my noisy vibration sound when going through uneven road? haha.. thumbup.gif



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Hi Guys, I am driving a 1 am driving a 15 years old Carbie 1.5 wira here...Trying to make it more powerful...any suggestion? Thanks ya...


Added on August 22, 2012, 11:16 amHi Guys, I am driving a 1 am driving a 15 years old Carbie 1.5 wira here...Trying to make it more powerful...any suggestion? Thanks ya...

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QUOTE(Kent_Carb @ Aug 22 2012, 12:15 PM)
Hi Guys, I am driving a 1 am driving a 15 years old Carbie 1.5 wira here...Trying to make it more powerful...any suggestion? Thanks ya...


Added on August 22, 2012, 11:16 amHi Guys, I am driving a 1 am driving a 15 years old Carbie 1.5 wira here...Trying to make it more powerful...any suggestion? Thanks ya...
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hi, i believe based on ur question its too broad..and i believe most of the answer u will get is that on our wira 3 speed auto it wont have much power...and one of the main thing is that change it to manual.. nod.gif

other things such as air filter, extractor...i leave it to other members to reply, im not quite sure...but you can search the previous pages...there are many many discussion about this adi.. icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(SinS @ Aug 22 2012, 10:56 AM)
Anyone know how much it cost to replace wira 1.3 driveshaft or CV joint?
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Changed RM180 to RM200 per side for 1.5.
I heard there are China made new driveshaft and recond type (joints are new only). not really sure about the market prevailing type.
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QUOTE(outpace @ Aug 22 2012, 02:11 PM)
Changed RM180 to RM200 per side for 1.5.
I heard there are China made new driveshaft and recond type (joints are new only). not really sure about the market prevailing type.
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RM180 to RM200 is local made or?...
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QUOTE(SinS @ Aug 22 2012, 02:29 PM)
RM180 to RM200 is local made or?...
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local, which mean recond type from sparepart shop loh

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QUOTE(outpace @ Aug 22 2012, 02:31 PM)
local, which mean recond type from sparepart shop loh
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If that's the case, then a new drive shaft will cost a bomb lo... shocking.gif
Hopefully its not the driveshaft/CV joint that give me those "kruk kruk kruk" sound when i make left turn...Pray hard... notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(SinS @ Aug 22 2012, 02:35 PM)
If that's the case, then a new drive shaft will cost a bomb lo... shocking.gif
Hopefully its not the driveshaft/CV joint that give me those "kruk kruk kruk" sound when i make left turn...Pray hard... notworthy.gif
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Very easy to confirm if CV joint failing or not. Turn your steering all left and hold it there while you reverse your car for a few rounds. And do it the same with steering all to the right. If you hear the noise then you better replace the joint. Because once the joint is broken, you will need to tow your car to workshop.
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im still at Proton SC.
go to service oil and diag my engine light problem.

detected that its speed sensor is kong already.
then they got no stock for it. need to preorder part.
(must come next time)

now im stil stuck here. since this morning..
the dial light and my car radio not functioning after wanna go home..

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QUOTE(salimbest83 @ Aug 22 2012, 03:02 PM)
im still at Proton SC.
go to service oil and diag my engine light problem.

detected that its speed sensor is kong already.
then they got no stock for it. need to preorder part.
(must come next time)

now im stil stuck here. since this morning..
the dial light and my car radio not functioning after wanna go home..

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is that EON service center at jalan makloom?
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QUOTE(GKWong @ Aug 22 2012, 03:16 PM)
is that EON service center at jalan makloom?
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yeah..
any bad experience here also? sad.gif
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QUOTE(salimbest83 @ Aug 22 2012, 03:42 PM)
yeah..
any bad experience here also? sad.gif
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that's the worse SC I've ever went. Last time when my Wira still new, they tried to drive behind the workshop to swap my original bumper with another car.
Then a lot of problems in the car they didnt resolve it also said is done. Then normal service also taking more than 3-4 hours, and they slowly lepak there. When you rush them that time they use 15mins to do the oil change for you then said it is done.
Encountered a lot of bad experience there before with different cars. Already blacklisted them!
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QUOTE(GKWong @ Aug 22 2012, 04:11 PM)
that's the worse SC I've ever went. Last time when my Wira still new, they tried to drive behind the workshop to swap my original bumper with another car.
Then a lot of problems in the car they didnt resolve it also said is done. Then normal service also taking more than 3-4 hours, and they slowly lepak there. When you rush them that time they use 15mins to do the oil change for you then said it is done.
Encountered a lot of bad experience there before with different cars. Already blacklisted them!
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haiya.
ni baru habis setel problem.
i ingat dah okay la.
then go back home.

now check keyhole ring also no light.
warning sound if not turn off headlamp also gone.
my aircond lubang all sudah tengelam already..
hampeh punya sc.

need to go fetch my sensor and make them fix later.
no mood to go back today. mad.gif

any better place to go ah?
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QUOTE(salimbest83 @ Aug 22 2012, 04:28 PM)
haiya.
ni baru habis setel problem.
i ingat dah okay la.
then go back home.

now check keyhole ring also no light.
warning sound if not turn off headlamp also gone.
my aircond lubang all sudah tengelam already..
hampeh punya sc.

need to go fetch my sensor and make them fix later.
no mood to go back today. mad.gif

any better place to go ah?
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QUOTE(GKWong @ Aug 23 2012, 09:07 AM)
Haha I am not going to any Proton SC anymore after warranty.
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QUOTE(carcraze66 @ Aug 22 2012, 01:54 PM)
hi, i believe based on ur question its too broad..and i believe most of the answer u will get is that on our wira 3 speed auto it wont have much power...and one of the main thing is that change it to manual..  nod.gif

other things such as air filter, extractor...i leave it to other members to reply, im not quite sure...but you can search the previous pages...there are many many discussion about this adi.. icon_rolleyes.gif
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Thanks bro! Actually mine is already a Manual 1...oh...issit...Then i have to trace all the way back in this thread d ==||...
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QUOTE(salimbest83 @ Aug 23 2012, 11:16 AM)
just to check that engine light problem ma
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if you want to check the CEL light trouble codes, then you can go to another Proton and Perodua specialist at Bukit Jambul there. Is near a chinese school there. You will see BOSCH logo all there. They got all the genuine and tools for diagnostic.
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QUOTE(GKWong @ Aug 23 2012, 11:52 AM)
if you want to check the CEL light trouble codes, then you can go to another Proton and Perodua specialist at Bukit Jambul there. Is near a chinese school there. You will see BOSCH logo all there. They got all the genuine and tools for diagnostic.
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Hi guys, I'm driving a 10 year old manual Wira Aeroback 1.3GLi. Recently I'm starting to have problem with the gear change. But this doesn't happen all the time and only for 1st and 2nd gear only. When this happens I will have to release the clutch and press it again to change gear. Is this a gearbox issue, clutch pad issue or some other issue? Thanks in advance.
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Thanks bro! Actually mine is already a Manual 1...oh...issit...Then i have to trace all the way back in this thread d ==||...
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there's a search column down there.. smile.gif so you may search for different keywords..
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got TT mea?
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QUOTE(nelsonlye @ Aug 23 2012, 10:59 PM)
Been talking TT for so long lioa...haha
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we TT mia place you guys won't come one.. lol..


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QUOTE(Oly @ Aug 23 2012, 10:57 PM)
i wait here la for u to come...
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just both of us? i going back on sat morning and back to kampar on sun morning.. sat nite i got basketball competition.. apa macam? if not then next weekend boleh oso coz i going back next weekend oso

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there's a search column down there.. smile.gif so you may search for different keywords..
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just both of us? i going back on sat morning and back to kampar on sun morning.. sat nite i got basketball competition.. apa macam? if not then next weekend boleh oso coz i going back next weekend oso
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QUOTE(nelsonlye @ Aug 23 2012, 10:59 PM)
Been talking TT for so long lioa...haha
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QUOTE(AhKoo @ Aug 24 2012, 03:58 PM)
TT? count me in thumbup.gif , as brother steven keep poison me about ur super evo~ wan to open eye side~ haha biggrin.gif
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Wanna ask something. Today I D.I.Y set my adjustable camgear for sohc. I test drive different settings according to the degree markings on the gear I get a lot of power from low rpm when I set towards retard but when I set to advance a lot the car feels totally no power. Retard gives higher idling too while Advance gives very low idling.
But isn't Advance suppose to give more low rpm power?
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QUOTE(IamRacist @ Aug 24 2012, 09:03 PM)
Wanna ask something. Today I D.I.Y set my adjustable camgear for sohc. I test drive different settings according to the degree markings on the gear I get a lot of power from low rpm when I set towards retard but when I set to advance a lot the car feels totally no power. Retard gives higher idling too while Advance gives very low idling.
But isn't Advance suppose to give more low rpm power?
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maybe you got the direction of retard and advance wrong?

btw, if correct retard, the power will feel less on lower RPM as it have been shifted to higher RPM.
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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Aug 24 2012, 09:25 PM)
maybe you got the direction of retard and advance wrong?

btw, if correct retard, the power will feel less on lower RPM as it have been shifted to higher RPM.
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It is according to the pointer printed on the adjustable cam pulley, currently set to retard 3 degrees with much stronger initial torque. I would have never know about this if I didn't spend time experimenting with different settings.
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QUOTE(IamRacist @ Aug 24 2012, 09:40 PM)
It is according to the pointer printed on the adjustable cam pulley, currently set to retard 3 degrees with much stronger initial torque. I would have never know about this if I didn't spend time experimenting with different settings.
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FYI, its terbalik, what you see from the cam pulley, once adjusted, the affects are the opposite lol
Retard cam = advance crank and advance cam = retard crank

Your current settings are basically cam timing retarded 3 degrees so basically it is 6 degrees advance on crank hence your much stronger initial torque.

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QUOTE(shinjite @ Aug 24 2012, 10:13 PM)
FYI, its terbalik, what you see from the cam pulley, once adjusted, the affects are the opposite lol
Retard cam = advance crank and advance cam = retard crank

Your current settings are basically cam timing retarded 3 degrees so basically it is 6 degrees advance on crank hence your much stronger initial torque.
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Oh, I see. No wonder my foreman says 'A' on the pulley no power when I insist him to set it the first time.
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Oh yeah one more thing, whenever you adjust the cam timing, do check the ignition timing as well
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QUOTE(shinjite @ Aug 24 2012, 11:46 PM)
Oh yeah one more thing, whenever you adjust the cam timing, do check the ignition timing as well
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QUOTE(IamRacist @ Aug 24 2012, 11:39 PM)
Oh, I see. No wonder my foreman says 'A' on the pulley no power when I insist him to set it the first time.
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how do you guys play the game ? I'm driving VDO and normal crank shaft pulley, can play?

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QUOTE(outpace @ Aug 25 2012, 09:53 AM)
how do you guys play the game ? I'm driving VDO and normal crank shaft pulley, can play?
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Possible but more hassle because you have to dismantle the timing belt. By the way it's called camshaft pulley, crankshaft pulley is the one at the bottom and the only reason to change that to an aftermarket version is to lighten the weight therefore allowing the engine to rev slightly faster and responsive. Get an adjustable cam pulley then you can test it out yourself and it's fun too if you know how to D.I.Y. Price is not really expensive, around $150.
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Guys, i have a wira sedan 1.5 Manual.
currently running on stock steel rim 13". Planning to change 15" sport rim soon, but the thing is will 15" cuz more fc then 13" ? if yes, how is the different ? if its small different i wont mind.

engine all stock, currently Rm60 brings me 450km with 13" steel rim.
so after change 15" roughly how much FC will drop ? maybe drop 10-30km ?
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QUOTE(wemglucas3 @ Aug 25 2012, 11:11 AM)
Guys, i have a wira sedan 1.5 Manual.
currently running on stock steel rim 13". Planning to change 15" sport rim soon, but the thing is will 15" cuz more fc then 13" ? if yes, how is the different ? if its small different i wont mind.

engine all stock, currently Rm60 brings me 450km with 13" steel rim.
so after change 15" roughly how much FC will drop ? maybe drop 10-30km ?
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Negligible differences really.....
If your engine is healthy, no worries on that

Go and get lightweight 15" rims
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What is the stock piping size for wira 1.6 yr 2000 thomas cup edition and does it comes with catalytic converter? I am still using stock piping so can anyone recommend a good size for a lighter feel of the engine, revs faster and responsive? But please no sacrificing any low rpm power.

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shud i change to wira 1.6 spring or to sport spring?
comfort and abit handling wise
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QUOTE(IamRacist @ Aug 26 2012, 03:54 AM)
What is the stock piping size for wira 1.6 yr 2000 thomas cup edition and does it comes with catalytic converter? I am still using stock piping so can anyone recommend a good size for a lighter feel of the engine, revs faster and responsive? But please no sacrificing any low rpm power.
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I'm using new exhaust system with 1.6" piping. Feels the improvement after changing it.

QUOTE(salimbest83 @ Aug 26 2012, 07:26 AM)
shud i change to wira 1.6 spring or to sport spring?
comfort and abit handling wise
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morning guys... anyone did top overhaul for their wira ? mine start leaking engine oil and from what i can see is around engine head @.@

should i do a top overhaul or replace the head cgasket first ar ?

thanks ~

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QUOTE(ciohbu @ Aug 26 2012, 08:58 AM)
morning guys... anyone did top overhaul for their wira ? mine start leaking engine oil and from what i can see is around engine head @.@

should i do a top overhaul or replace the head casket first ar ?

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when you replace the head "gasket" (not casket sweat.gif ) normally ppl sure clean and grind valves for the engine head which most ppl called as top overhaul. Cost around 300-400+- only.
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QUOTE(GKWong @ Aug 26 2012, 09:54 AM)
when you replace the head "gasket" (not casket  sweat.gif ) normally ppl sure clean and grind valves for the engine head which most ppl called as top overhaul. Cost around 300-400+- only.
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opppsss. typo tongue.gif tongue.gif

some top overhaul list is scary and cost over 1k.. hmmm

so far no smoke from my exhaust..
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QUOTE(ciohbu @ Aug 26 2012, 10:02 AM)
opppsss. typo  tongue.gif  tongue.gif

some top overhaul list is scary and cost over 1k.. hmmm

so far no smoke from my exhaust..
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those cost over 1k i think they replacing new set of valves and also removing the oil pan to access the conrod so that they can replace the piston rings as well. Then might as well replacing the conrod bearing also. That's why it is expensive.
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QUOTE(afosz @ Aug 26 2012, 08:24 AM)
I'm using new exhaust system with 1.6" piping. Feels the improvement after changing it.
I believe if you want comfort, just stick to stock spring. If you want better handling, if you can afford adjustable, go for it.
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no budget for adjustable lor..
just my stock 1.5 SE selalu sangkut tabung ekzos bila naik speedbump.
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QUOTE(afosz @ Aug 26 2012, 08:24 AM)
I'm using new exhaust system with 1.6" piping. Feels the improvement after changing it.
I believe if you want comfort, just stick to stock spring. If you want better handling, if you can afford adjustable, go for it.
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no budget for adjustable lor..
just my stock 1.5 SE selalu sangkut tabung ekzos bila naik speedbump.
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QUOTE(salimbest83 @ Aug 26 2012, 04:06 PM)
no budget for adjustable lor..
just my stock 1.5 SE selalu sangkut tabung ekzos bila naik speedbump.
tensen x10


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no budget for adjustable lor..
just my stock 1.5 SE selalu sangkut tabung ekzos bila naik speedbump.
tensen x10
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tot wira se is higher then wira 1.6 my friend 1.5 quite stiff
maybe his previous owner chg absorber before hha... btw wira se high resale also 04 year can sell 18k
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QUOTE(salimbest83 @ Aug 26 2012, 04:06 PM)
no budget for adjustable lor..
just my stock 1.5 SE selalu sangkut tabung ekzos bila naik speedbump.
tensen x10


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no budget for adjustable lor..
just my stock 1.5 SE selalu sangkut tabung ekzos bila naik speedbump.
tensen x10
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remove the cat converter.. replace with swirling bullet. Muffler change to smaller tabung...

I changed mine with adjustable absorber... increased the height for 3 fingers also will sink if full of passangers. sweat.gif
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Guys, my wira aircond when car moving is cold. But when slow down or stopped, not cold already. So what part need to change ar ? Need service aircond only or compressor problem ? Thanks....

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QUOTE(wemglucas3 @ Aug 26 2012, 10:36 PM)
Guys, my wira aircond when car moving is cold. But when slow down or stopped, not cold already. So what part need to change ar ? Need service aircond only or compressor problem ? Thanks....
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QUOTE(NoobboyZzZ @ Aug 26 2012, 06:40 PM)
tot wira se is higher then wira 1.6 my friend 1.5 quite stiff
maybe his previous owner chg absorber before hha... btw wira se high resale also 04 year can sell 18k
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QUOTE(Arkaine @ Aug 26 2012, 08:59 PM)
remove the cat converter.. replace with swirling bullet. Muffler change to smaller tabung...

I changed mine with adjustable absorber... increased the height for 3 fingers also will sink if full of passangers. sweat.gif
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hurm.
thinking to remove cat also.
swirling bullet is where?


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haih my wira injector got problem d ,
forman cakap nid chg the injector nid 3xx include pasang worth ka?
when idle at cold will mati engine plus now minyak manyak makan full tank can go 300++ only
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QUOTE(NoobboyZzZ @ Aug 27 2012, 12:44 AM)
haih my wira injector got problem d ,
forman cakap nid chg the injector nid 3xx include pasang worth ka?
when idle at cold will mati engine plus now minyak manyak makan full tank can go 300++ only
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I bought s/hand 240cc injector @ rm150 only... Anyway, what cc u looking for? I have 1 set of 210cc... tongue.gif
Btw, yours not as high fc as mine... Rm50 can go 150km only... (due to incompatible ecu) tongue.gif
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QUOTE(salimbest83 @ Aug 27 2012, 12:18 AM)
all standard kapak.
got it for 21.6k OTR. 2007


Added on August 27, 2012, 12:38 am

hurm.
thinking to remove cat also.
swirling bullet is where?
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if you remove the cat converter... there will be a gap between the piping...
so i put a swirling bullet/silencer there.... as i get a quite a noisy muffler... to minimize the sound of it...

the cat converter already got broken things/metal sound inside... plus it was dented..... sweat.gif
and the ori muffler already leaking.... (welded it twice) laugh.gif

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Forgot to mention I installed 4-2-1 extractor Liao. Heehe feels good biggrin.gif

Now I wanna Make my car to go faster in corners or turns. Should I install the full stabilizer for front and rear or just a part?

Sometimes I feel like going to terbalik d but luckily didn't.
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Forgot to mention I installed 4-2-1 extractor Liao. Heehe feels good biggrin.gif

Now I wanna Make my car to go faster in corners or turns. Should I install the full stabilizer for front and rear or just a part?

Sometimes I feel like going to terbalik d but luckily didn't.
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Invest on suspension and rear ARB if yours is the old 1.5
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QUOTE(shinjite @ Aug 27 2012, 08:34 AM)
Invest on suspension and rear ARB if yours is the old 1.5
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QUOTE(dont8cum @ Aug 27 2012, 10:10 AM)
mine is the 1.6 wira auto 1996 one
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any peeps here got try the chasis foaming on wira before? Wondering if just do the undercarriage can cause the ride more comfort or harsh....
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Hey guys, after installing a front strut bar will the car become more stable when cruising on highway ? or strut bar only improve stable for cornering only ? and 2 point and 4 point UR strut bar, which is better ?
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Today, I went to the pump station to fill my nearly empty WiSE tank. Since I wanted to clock how many km I can go w full tank, I fill full tank lah. What's strange is, eventhough I've already filled up to RM80, the tank is still not full liao shakehead.gif I bend down and look at the bottom of the car, shocking.gif woah fuel is leaking out heavily doh.gif Straight away went to SC and get it checked, the fuel hose bocor sudah. No wonder I didn't get the 'psssssssshhhh' sound when I open the fuel cap, and my fuel also drain a bit faster lately. Heads up to you guys who has a similar problem, try checking your fuel hose.
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last nite go vroom2 n cilok2 on my way back to penang.
stay on gear 2 quite alot.
( Auto )

then my FC got 10.2km/l only. ( isi full tank at kulim )
huhu..

and is tat killing my gearbox faster?
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QUOTE(shinjite @ Aug 27 2012, 08:34 AM)
Invest on suspension and rear ARB if yours is the old 1.5
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My 1.5, memang hit bottom even when slow over bumps. Which suspension will help?
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QUOTE(IamRacist @ Aug 25 2012, 10:39 AM)
Possible but more hassle because you have to dismantle the timing belt. By the way it's called camshaft pulley, crankshaft pulley is the one at the bottom and the only reason to change that to an aftermarket version is to lighten the weight therefore allowing the engine to rev slightly faster and responsive. Get an adjustable cam pulley then you can test it out yourself and it's fun too if you know how to D.I.Y. Price is not really expensive, around $150.
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LOL, sorry for the crakshaft pulley, hahaha, guess it doesn't have aftermarket/ performance alternative version of crankshaft pulley

I saw some commercial info stating, the camshaft pulley must equipped with rubber to cushion the vibration, that's why some LCP like "mythelogy" is costing 500-600. Any comment?


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QUOTE(k3v_84 @ Aug 27 2012, 12:54 AM)
I bought s/hand 240cc injector @ rm150 only... Anyway, what cc u looking for? I have 1 set of 210cc... tongue.gif
Btw, yours not as high fc as mine... Rm50 can go 150km only... (due to incompatible ecu) tongue.gif
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RM50 go for 150KM???????? drink or leak?? shocking.gif

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QUOTE(dont8cum @ Aug 27 2012, 03:48 AM)
Forgot to mention I installed 4-2-1 extractor Liao. Heehe feels good biggrin.gif

Now I wanna Make my car to go faster in corners or turns. Should I install the full stabilizer for front and rear or just a part?

Sometimes I feel like going to terbalik d but luckily didn't.
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bro ur wira isit 1.5 auto? btw you only change the extractor? cause i planning to change mine to 4-2-1 extractor but dont know how does it work cause exhaust system i dont really understand...haha..dont know whether can change only extractor or nid change whole set including those "tabung"...thanks

QUOTE(GKWong @ Aug 27 2012, 11:29 AM)
any peeps here got try the chasis foaming on wira before? Wondering if just do the undercarriage can cause the ride more comfort or harsh....
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hehe...i tried asking this question last time...but no respond...anyway bro last time i was planning to do chassis foam also and i did quite a number of research and found out some results from other wira-ians who foamed their wira...and some say after the foam the feel is like "waja", comfort increase and less vibration those...cornering also better...
however, some people who foamed their car feels that its too harsh, too stiff already untill going over uneven road will feel bumpy or something like that...so i think it depends on personal opinion.. biggrin.gif
until now i havent do it yet cause i still feel abit afraid, one is because those who did chassis foam they inject the foam inside our car body, what is the specific measurement? i dont think there is any specific amount that they can measure and therefore may cause some people feel good after foaming and some feel bad..2nd thing is that once u foamed ur car, there no more turning back, u cannot remove it anymore, this is the thing i scared the most..hahaha..

anyway i plan to install the chassis alignment kit/stiff rings to improve comfort...at least that one can remove and i dont see any bad sides about it..haha..

just my opinion bro smile.gif no offence ya

QUOTE(arsengal @ Aug 27 2012, 05:55 PM)
Today, I went to the pump station to fill my nearly empty WiSE tank. Since I wanted to clock how many km I can go w full tank, I fill full tank lah. What's strange is, eventhough I've already filled up to RM80, the tank is still not full liao  shakehead.gif  I bend down and look at the bottom of the car,  shocking.gif woah fuel is leaking out heavily  doh.gif  Straight away went to SC and get it checked, the fuel hose bocor sudah. No wonder I didn't get the 'psssssssshhhh' sound when I open the fuel cap, and my fuel also drain a bit faster lately. Heads up to you guys who has a similar problem, try checking your fuel hose.
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wow...haha...quite scary...btw bro before that you didnt notice leaking meh? like parking in ur house when u go out you should see petrol stain on the floor right?

btw mine recently also no more psssshhhh sound...scare already lah..haha..
bro mind to guide me how to check the fuel hose ar? i mean how to see whether its bocor or not..

thanks biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(arsengal @ Aug 27 2012, 04:55 PM)
Today, I went to the pump station to fill my nearly empty WiSE tank. Since I wanted to clock how many km I can go w full tank, I fill full tank lah. What's strange is, eventhough I've already filled up to RM80, the tank is still not full liao  shakehead.gif  I bend down and look at the bottom of the car,  shocking.gif woah fuel is leaking out heavily  doh.gif  Straight away went to SC and get it checked, the fuel hose bocor sudah. No wonder I didn't get the 'psssssssshhhh' sound when I open the fuel cap, and my fuel also drain a bit faster lately. Heads up to you guys who has a similar problem, try checking your fuel hose.
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felt lucky for you, it's darn dangerous, I had such experience and never want to try again, would need to claim insurance if anything happen.


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.....

anyway i plan to install the chassis alignment kit/stiff rings to improve comfort...at least that one can remove and i dont see any bad sides about it..haha..




thanks biggrin.gif
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I'm also very interested on this chassis alignment thing. How much roughly it cost?any idea? why?
quite rare to hear about it.

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QUOTE(carcraze66 @ Aug 27 2012, 07:18 PM)
wow...haha...quite scary...btw bro before that you didnt notice leaking meh? like parking in ur house when u go out you should see petrol stain on the floor right?

btw mine recently also no more psssshhhh sound...scare already lah..haha..
bro mind to guide me how to check the fuel hose ar? i mean how to see whether its bocor or not..

thanks biggrin.gif
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I looked several times before, no leaking was noticed. Plus usually before this I use to pump RM30 only, so there is no chance the fuel is going to be overflowing to the hose. Its just today that my instinct told me to look down haha.

Btw I think the best way to check it is to take it off. Only after the mechanic take it off I can clearly see there's a cut at the hose, most probably because of the aging of the hose, because there are also quite a number of cracks also on the hose. Try taking it off and check it out, there are two hoses, the big one is for the flow of fuel into the tank, the other smaller one is for the outflow of pressure from the tank, the one that should give you the pleasuring 'psssshhhhh' biggrin.gif

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felt lucky for you, it's darn dangerous, I had such experience and never want to try again, would need to claim insurance if anything happen.


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I'm also very interested on this chassis alignment thing. How much roughly it cost?any idea? why?
quite rare to hear about it.
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Luckily for me I noticed it today. The spillage was huge. Your hose was the problem also?

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QUOTE(outpace @ Aug 27 2012, 08:19 PM)
felt lucky for you, it's darn dangerous, I had such experience and never want to try again, would need to claim insurance if anything happen.


Added on August 27, 2012, 7:21 pm
I'm also very interested on this chassis alignment thing. How much roughly it cost?any idea? why?
quite rare to hear about it.
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normall outside selling is around RM200-RM250...there are few brands which i think quite ok...like race tech of stiffring... smile.gif
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i think my 3 year ++ old VS not really stable adi...
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QUOTE(carcraze66 @ Aug 27 2012, 07:18 PM)
hehe...i tried asking this question last time...but no respond...anyway bro last time i was planning to do chassis foam also and i did quite a number of research and found out some results from other wira-ians who foamed their wira...and some say after the foam the feel is like "waja", comfort increase and less vibration those...cornering also better...
however, some people who foamed their car feels that its too harsh, too stiff already untill going over uneven road will feel bumpy or something like that...so i think it depends on personal opinion.. biggrin.gif
until now i havent do it yet cause i still feel abit afraid, one is because those who did chassis foam they inject the foam inside our car body, what is the specific measurement? i dont think there is any specific amount that they can measure and therefore may cause some people feel good after foaming and some feel bad..2nd thing is that once u foamed ur car, there no more turning back, u cannot remove it anymore, this is the thing i scared the most..hahaha..

anyway i plan to install the chassis alignment kit/stiff rings to improve comfort...at least that one can remove and i dont see any bad sides about it..haha..

just my opinion bro smile.gif no offence ya
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that's what I got from googling. I am having the same thinking as you also because after foamed it later if too harsh then we cannot remove it already....
From AutoFoam website, they stated if only foam the undercarriage is for comfort ride. But another selling told me if foam the undercarriage will be a bit more bumpier, if want comfort then foam the door sill rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(GKWong @ Aug 27 2012, 09:21 PM)
that's what I got from googling. I am having the same thinking as you also because after foamed it later if too harsh then we cannot remove it already....
From AutoFoam website, they stated if only foam the undercarriage is for comfort ride. But another selling told me if foam the undercarriage will be a bit more bumpier, if want comfort then foam the door sill  rclxub.gif
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hahaha...i believe the another seller is "icecube" from lyn forum right? hehe..

i also asked him also, i went to his shop as well and he explain roughly to me and he told me that if want more comfort shud foam the undercarriage pillar as it is empty, when you knock it its empty sound..

he told me that foaming the chassis is more on improving the control of ur car (i suddenly cant think of the word) haha... icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(k3v_84 @ Aug 27 2012, 12:54 AM)
I bought s/hand 240cc injector @ rm150 only... Anyway, what cc u looking for? I have 1 set of 210cc... tongue.gif
Btw, yours not as high fc as mine... Rm50 can go 150km only... (due to incompatible ecu) tongue.gif
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mine is 1.6 210 cc can masuk ?
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QUOTE(NoobboyZzZ @ Aug 27 2012, 09:30 PM)
mine is 1.6 210 cc can masuk ?
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mine is 1.6 210 cc can masuk ?
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it is unnessesary..... it wont improve anything but screw up the afr due to injector latency is different.... UNLESS you have BOT then thats different story... 240cc on 1.6 engine max duty cycle would be on 1 bar or 300cfm
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Yes, can put in... But as mention, do u need it? If u are gonna mod your ride / already mod, then will be a good upgrade... If not mistaken, 1.6 is 180 or 190 cc... Therefore 210 cc is a good mild upgrade for it... If u are planning to stock ur ride, yeah, u don't need this... smile.gif
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Stock 1.6 sohc injectors 182cc is good enough for 120-125whp
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QUOTE(outpace @ Aug 27 2012, 07:15 PM)
LOL, sorry for the crakshaft pulley, hahaha, guess it doesn't have aftermarket/ performance alternative version of crankshaft pulley

I saw some commercial info stating, the camshaft pulley must equipped with rubber to cushion the vibration, that's why some LCP like  "mythelogy" is costing 500-600. Any comment?

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I haven't used mythology brand before so I cannot tell how good it is. I'm using Zerone LCP without the rubber dampener and it is still running smooth.
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my injector already kong lol ... that why i asking for injector...
that day go ask the forman check he put in the comp and say kong
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In that case try look around chop shop la... Original should be around 100 also coz they sell 210cc @ 120, so 182cc should be cheaper...
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QUOTE(k3v_84 @ Aug 28 2012, 12:59 AM)
In that case try look around chop shop la... Original should be around 100 also coz they sell 210cc @ 120, so 182cc should be cheaper...
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if i terus masuk 210 cc will makan minyak and spoil engine? tot i will upgrade in future
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QUOTE(NoobboyZzZ @ Aug 28 2012, 01:51 AM)
if i terus masuk 210 cc will makan minyak and spoil engine? tot i will upgrade in future
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Erm, technical wise better consult with ur mech before installing la... I'm not really good at it... tongue.gif
But if without modding and tuning, sure ur car will be running rich... Which means consume more petrol...

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QUOTE(NoobboyZzZ @ Aug 28 2012, 01:51 AM)
if i terus masuk 210 cc will makan minyak and spoil engine? tot i will upgrade in future
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It will run rich definitely
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Guys, since i service my TB and change plug cable to Bosch Super Sport few month ago, i notice my spark plug started to give problem after around 4 or 5k km of driving and need to be replace...

1) Is it because the standard NGK spark plug is not compatible with the Bosch Super Sport plug cable?...

2) Anyone used APM standard spring to replace the original spring?...How durable is this spring?...will it get soft or sag very fast?...as i've hear this APM standard spring will get soft after a year...i wonder how true is that...I've already change the absorber (both front & rear), now i want to change the spring...not sure to go for APM standard spring or Heavy Duty spring for both front & rear...
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Take waja injector... it is 210 and the FC will be still the same
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Thursday Night TT anyone? Vanue Asia Cafe Puchong Jaya.... TT together with LYN Waja Club....

Pls Let me know if anyone interested.

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QUOTE(arsengal @ Aug 27 2012, 07:56 PM)
Luckily for me I noticed it today. The spillage was huge. Your hose was the problem also?
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yup, fuel hose connected to throttle body, inside engine bay, heavy petrol odor when driving, went to pawn shop get one, RM30, install RM10


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QUOTE(carcraze66 @ Aug 27 2012, 08:15 PM)
normall outside selling is around RM200-RM250...there are few brands which i think quite ok...like race tech of stiffring... smile.gif
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I saw racetech facebook selling for 170 i guess, but no installation, is installation expensive?


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QUOTE(Str33tBoY @ Aug 27 2012, 08:17 PM)
hi to all the sifu...
any suggestion for a good & affordable price for voltage stabilizer...?
i think my 3 year ++ old VS not really stable adi...
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there are many selling in lowyat, how you notice your VS not stable?

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who want race tech cak?..im selling mine...rm150...
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QUOTE(outpace @ Aug 29 2012, 02:00 PM)
yup, fuel hose connected to throttle body, inside engine bay, heavy petrol odor when driving, went to pawn shop get one, RM30, install RM10


Added on August 29, 2012, 1:01 pm
I saw racetech facebook selling for 170 i guess, but no installation, is installation expensive?


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there are many selling in lowyat, how you notice your VS not stable?
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bro regarding the fuel hose right...for mine is carburetor where is the fuel hose ar? any sifu mind to tell me where isit? cause i ALWAYS smell heavy petrol odor in my car but till now i dont know where it come from..hahaha sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Oly @ Aug 29 2012, 02:02 PM)
who want race tech cak?..im selling mine...rm150...
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CAK can be reused?
Yours is new set is it? why sell it off?


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QUOTE(carcraze66 @ Aug 29 2012, 07:57 PM)
bro regarding the fuel hose right...for mine is carburetor where is the fuel hose ar? any sifu mind to tell me where isit? cause i ALWAYS smell heavy petrol odor in my car but till now i dont know where it come from..hahaha  sweat.gif
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I'm having problem with the braided hose on the left, notice fuel leaking out of my car.

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not sure about carburetor wira

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Guys, recently my wira spark plug always spoil because engine oil is leaking into the cylinder...
Any idea what might be the cause of this?...Could it be valve seal?...gasket?...piston ring?...
Want to get this sort out asap...wanted to get some idea before i send to workshop...
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QUOTE(SinS @ Sep 1 2012, 04:31 PM)
Guys, recently my wira spark plug always spoil because engine oil is leaking into the cylinder...
Any idea what might be the cause of this?...Could it be valve seal?...gasket?...piston ring?...
Want to get this sort out asap...wanted to get some idea before i send to workshop...
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99.99999999999999999% Valve Seal
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99.99999999999999999% Valve Seal
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Bro, mine to explain why it is the valve seal?...Should i just replace the valve seal to solve the problem or do a top overhaul?
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hey all,

my aircond recently gave me this prob. While driving on a hot day, the engine temperature will rise above half mark, then the aircond will stop blowing cool air. If I drive at night, engine temperature never go above the half-mark thus aircond is working fine (can be damn cold).

I suspect something is wrong with the engine cooling system which after reach above the half-mark, aircond stopped working?? Is it true??

I've checked the radiator, water is full. so i dunno what can I do?


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QUOTE(zaFrOoNaLdO @ Sep 2 2012, 09:00 AM)
hey all,

my aircond recently gave me this prob. While driving on a hot day, the engine temperature will rise above half mark, then the aircond will stop blowing cool air. If I drive at night, engine temperature never go above the half-mark thus aircond is working fine (can be damn cold).

I suspect something is wrong with the engine cooling system which after reach above the half-mark, aircond stopped working?? Is it true??

I've checked the radiator, water is full. so i dunno what can I do?
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I think aircond and your engine temperature is separate issue...For temperature problem, maybe u can check your thermostat or radiator fan?...as for aircond, should be your condenser fan or relay got problem...

Correct me if i'm wrong... biggrin.gif
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Any idea how much is 2001 1.3 wira ab manual can sell?
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hoho....any taker for my Defi???

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2489161

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QUOTE(SinS @ Sep 2 2012, 01:24 AM)
Bro, mine to explain why it is the valve seal?...Should i just replace the valve seal to solve the problem or do a top overhaul?
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Its hard to explain here... better go google.... conclusion, when valve seal is old it will be hardened and therefore it may prone to have oil leak into the cylinder plug
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QUOTE(nelsonlye @ Sep 2 2012, 12:09 PM)
hoho....any taker for my Defi???

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2489161
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Bro you forgot to mention the function of your meter. Oil Press?
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QUOTE(mxsteven @ Sep 2 2012, 12:39 PM)
Its hard to explain here... better go google.... conclusion, when valve seal is old it will be hardened and therefore it may prone to have oil leak into the cylinder plug
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I've search how the oil lubricate the engine...but 1 thing i'm not sure...piston ring is not lubricate by the engine oil?...
I've previously replace the valve seal only...almost 1 year ago when i replace it...since my car already 10years old, should i just fix the valve seal again or opt for top overhaul?...which is more beneficial for the long run?...i wanted to fix the problem and drive for another few years...
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QUOTE(mxsteven @ Sep 2 2012, 12:42 PM)
Bro you forgot to mention the function of your meter. Oil Press?
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Mentioned very clear. Is vacuum gauge.
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QUOTE(SinS @ Sep 2 2012, 10:10 AM)
I think aircond and your engine temperature is separate issue...For temperature problem, maybe u can check your thermostat or radiator fan?...as for aircond, should be your condenser fan or relay got problem...

Correct me if i'm wrong... biggrin.gif
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okay. before this i filled up with water.. just now i bought a coolant from Tesco. The temperature rises slower, but still reaches more than half... then the aircond give the same prob (no cool air).

radiator fan will only start spinning when the engine reach certain temperature right? I'll prob try to check after a journey whether the fan actually spins...
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QUOTE(outpace @ Aug 30 2012, 07:42 PM)
CAK can be reused?
Yours is new set is it? why sell it off?
its a new set...need money...
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QUOTE(zaFrOoNaLdO @ Sep 2 2012, 08:25 PM)
okay. before this i filled up with water.. just now i bought a coolant from Tesco. The temperature rises slower, but still reaches more than half... then the aircond give the same prob (no cool air).

radiator fan will only start spinning when the engine reach certain temperature right? I'll prob try to check after a journey whether the fan actually spins...
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Can be aircond radiator & engine radiator, both motor got intemittent problem. Sometimes work, sometimes not work.

Your engine radiator coolant got any leak ? Need to top-up frequent ?


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Guys, last time i rmb when i open my fuel cap got vacuum sound like "tssssk"... but recently the sound gone. So issit some fuel hoses worn out or leaking ? or the cap problem ?
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guys... my wira 1.5 (A) FI kena hit by a lorry nearby backdoor.

any good solution to cover the hole? thanks~


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QUOTE(ngkhanmein @ Sep 3 2012, 03:41 PM)
guys... my wira 1.5 (A) FI kena hit by a lorry nearby backdoor.

any good solution to cover the hole? thanks~
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How 's the lorry hit your car door ? How come made a big hole there?

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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Sep 3 2012, 12:38 PM)
Can be aircond radiator & engine radiator, both motor got intemittent problem. Sometimes work, sometimes not work.

Your engine radiator coolant got any leak ? Need to top-up frequent ?
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hmm.. dont think there's any leak.. only the first time topping up.. will monitor closely after a week see wheher reduce or not..
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QUOTE(DaBestOne @ Sep 3 2012, 09:23 PM)
How 's the lorry hit your car door ? How come made a big hole there?
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he said that his lorry already reverse.. i said if u already reverse out how come hit backdoor not front bumper?

no report.. he didn't pay me.. suan liau so how to gao tim the holes? how's much is the damage i need spend? thanks~
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QUOTE(ngkhanmein @ Sep 4 2012, 08:55 AM)
he said that his lorry already reverse.. i said if u already reverse out how come hit backdoor not front bumper?

no report.. he didn't pay me.. suan liau so how to gao tim the holes? how's much is the damage i need spend? thanks~
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Rough estimate work is:
1) Knock both door and fender

2) may need solder a piece of metal back, since hole too big.

3) patch with putty

4) smooth out with sand-paper

5) anti-rust + paint + clear coat

Now sure pricing, but RM500-1k range ?

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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Sep 4 2012, 02:59 PM)
Rough estimate work is:
1) Knock both door and fender

2) may need solder a piece of metal back, since hole too big.

3) patch with putty

4) smooth out with sand-paper

5) anti-rust + paint + clear coat

Now sure pricing, but RM500-1k range ?
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i hope less than 500 cos i need paint whole car. door still can be save???


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