honestly, hp not that vital
better figure to look for is higher torque and it's availability
if u sat in a 320nm or more torque car, u'll feel a lot of pull
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Sep 20 2012, 07:24 PM
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honestly, hp not that vital
better figure to look for is higher torque and it's availability if u sat in a 320nm or more torque car, u'll feel a lot of pull |
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Sep 20 2012, 07:25 PM
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Sep 20 2012, 07:26 PM
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something like a 400nm TDCI focus?
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Sep 20 2012, 07:33 PM
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after using racechip pro, my polo went from stock 105ps 175nm to 109ps 204nm (on wheel, dyno)
assuming 10% power loss on wheel, guestimate figures on crank is around 121ps 226nm the torque diff is very noticeable and there's a slight kick on gear change around 3k-4k rpm range, max torque at 2500rpm! improved torque figures well below dsg7 dq200 250nm limit This post has been edited by fr0sti3: Sep 20 2012, 07:35 PM |
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Sep 20 2012, 07:34 PM
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QUOTE(IluvProton @ Sep 20 2012, 07:17 PM) no comment since just 2-3 K, you got extra 10% power without disturbing your engine. Yup 3k for 40hp n 80nm is superb deal if u ask me (stage1)why not? both as your reference. both also 20+nm and 24hp therefore is ok For na u need to do so much n pay more n gain less than that Last time dynoed my stage1 gti, 207whp and 325nm only If u look at hp ull say not much. But my engine is much more crazier after the remap. Even stock mk6 giving out 200whp and 270nm QUOTE(zenix @ Sep 20 2012, 07:24 PM) yup and its easy to do. Driven a stage 3 before ? Very few i know. Mk6 never heard stage 3 yetthough too much of it will skew it too much as a weekend drive. even up to stage 3 its still a very usable daily drive and fc relatively frugal for the performance imho. |
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QUOTE(phas3r @ Sep 20 2012, 07:34 PM) Yup 3k for 40hp n 80nm is superb deal if u ask me (stage1) according to owners i chatted with.For na u need to do so much n pay more n gain less than that Last time dynoed my stage1 gti, 207whp and 325nm only If u look at hp ull say not much. But my engine is much more crazier after the remap. Even stock mk6 giving out 200whp and 270nm Driven a stage 3 before ? Very few i know. Mk6 never heard stage 3 yet i'm not a vw owner. |
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Sep 20 2012, 07:45 PM
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QUOTE(fr0sti3 @ Sep 20 2012, 07:33 PM) after using racechip pro, my polo went from stock 105ps 175nm to 109ps 204nm (on wheel, dyno) Seriously bro. Once in a while i drive polo sportsassuming 10% power loss on wheel, guestimate figures on crank is around 121ps 226nm the torque diff is very noticeable and there's a slight kick on gear change around 3k-4k rpm range, max torque at 2500rpm! improved torque figures well below dsg7 dq200 250nm limit From dead stop i feel its faster than my stage 1. Wonder whats the dyno number for stock polo tsi |
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Sep 20 2012, 07:52 PM
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QUOTE(phas3r @ Sep 20 2012, 07:34 PM) mk5 is using EA113 cast iron engine blockwhile mk6 is EA888 aluminium engine block more mod potential for ea113, it can handle more pressure than ea888 if i not wrong tts, s3, golf r & rocco r are using ea113 with upgraded/forged internal parts QUOTE(phas3r @ Sep 20 2012, 07:45 PM) Seriously bro. Once in a while i drive polo sports well polo is about 1.1 tonne, it's about 300kg less than golf/rocco/beetleFrom dead stop i feel its faster than my stage 1. Wonder whats the dyno number for stock polo tsi better power to weight i guess key diff for polo is the suspension, it's not using multi link rear like the rest This post has been edited by fr0sti3: Sep 20 2012, 07:53 PM |
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Sep 20 2012, 07:53 PM
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have any sifu know any1 selling VW Dune Buggy car?
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Sep 20 2012, 11:07 PM
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QUOTE(fr0sti3 @ Sep 20 2012, 07:52 PM) mk5 is using EA113 cast iron engine block no wonder.while mk6 is EA888 aluminium engine block more mod potential for ea113, it can handle more pressure than ea888 if i not wrong tts, s3, golf r & rocco r are using ea113 with upgraded/forged internal parts alu is great for weight reduction though QUOTE(antzan @ Sep 20 2012, 07:53 PM) i always thought they were modded from old beetles not an outright punchable car |
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Sep 21 2012, 12:45 AM
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QUOTE(phas3r @ Sep 20 2012, 08:34 PM) i have a friend who already upgraded his mk6 to stage 3 since last year i think. He's the only one in terengganu that i know who's on stage 3 & full abt bodykit. But my cousin is gona upgrade his mk6 to stage 3 too in next month maybe. Not sure if he ever joined vw tt with u guys before coz he's been driving his gti since 2010 n quite active with vw audi n porsche event too. That's his car in my dp, the white gti with caractere bodykit. Plate number is BLExxxx This post has been edited by andy_heartless: Sep 21 2012, 02:15 AM |
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Sep 21 2012, 03:29 AM
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one thing about uprating engine performance output,
higher torque churning out from the engine can potentially kill your gearbox in the long run - wet 6 speed dsg (DQ250) on 2.0 TSI engines are rated up to 350nm passat cc r line 3.6 v6 engine is not exceeding this manufacturer limit - dry 7 speed dsg (DQ200) on TSI engine below 2.0 are rated up to 250nm polo gti & passat 1.8tsi is on 250nm i mean surely those engine can go pass this torque limit, but they want the DSG to last in the long run VW group does have better dsg box for higher torque limit (550nm) - DQ500 (transverse engine, Audi TT RS 450nm) - DL501 (longitudinal engine, Audi S4 440nm) This post has been edited by fr0sti3: Sep 21 2012, 03:33 AM |
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Sep 21 2012, 06:12 AM
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Question:
Any of u guys open your hood for polo and found plastic bags shoved on the left and right corner.. I only noticed yesterday. If viewing from front of the car, on the left side, it is just beside the cool-en fluid box. Another way of locating it is just behind the head lamps to the side. Any idea why they put the plastic there? I didn't remove it because afraid it has some use... This post has been edited by blugear: Sep 21 2012, 07:30 AM |
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Sep 21 2012, 02:06 PM
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QUOTE(blugear @ Sep 21 2012, 06:12 AM) Question: I have never seen plastic bags in the bonnet before, beercans, yes but not plastic bag. Can you snap a picture of it? It shouldn't be there unless when you were driving and your car accidentally "ate" themAny of u guys open your hood for polo and found plastic bags shoved on the left and right corner.. I only noticed yesterday. If viewing from front of the car, on the left side, it is just beside the cool-en fluid box. Another way of locating it is just behind the head lamps to the side. Any idea why they put the plastic there? I didn't remove it because afraid it has some use... |
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Sep 21 2012, 02:27 PM
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agree. they shouldnt be any kind of plastics in there. probably terbang there during driving. pics will help
Added on September 21, 2012, 2:30 pm QUOTE(fr0sti3 @ Sep 20 2012, 07:52 PM) mk5 is using EA113 cast iron engine block more potential hmm. but why mk6 output is considerably more?while mk6 is EA888 aluminium engine block more mod potential for ea113, it can handle more pressure than ea888 if i not wrong tts, s3, golf r & rocco r are using ea113 with upgraded/forged internal parts well polo is about 1.1 tonne, it's about 300kg less than golf/rocco/beetle better power to weight i guess key diff for polo is the suspension, it's not using multi link rear like the rest no idea about polo's rear suspension. multilink is lighter? yes lighter cars will do better off the line. QUOTE(andy_heartless @ Sep 21 2012, 12:45 AM) i have a friend who already upgraded his mk6 to stage 3 since last year i think. Mk6 with stage 3. never heard any. wow t'ganu has some serious GTIs there. TS77 nickname is that him ?He's the only one in terengganu that i know who's on stage 3 & full abt bodykit. But my cousin is gona upgrade his mk6 to stage 3 too in next month maybe. Not sure if he ever joined vw tt with u guys before coz he's been driving his gti since 2010 n quite active with vw audi n porsche event too. That's his car in my dp, the white gti with caractere bodykit. Plate number is BLExxxx very nice car in the avatar. anyways has whatsapp'ed u yesterday. got the msg ? This post has been edited by phas3r: Sep 21 2012, 02:30 PM |
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Sep 21 2012, 02:36 PM
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QUOTE(Mavik @ Sep 21 2012, 02:06 PM) I have never seen plastic bags in the bonnet before, beercans, yes but not plastic bag. Can you snap a picture of it? It shouldn't be there unless when you were driving and your car accidentally "ate" them But it is not like the normal plastic bag.. Its transparent and carefully shoved in the sides..So weird.. Later I snap pic. |
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Sep 21 2012, 02:38 PM
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QUOTE(phas3r @ Sep 21 2012, 02:27 PM) Mk6 with stage 3. never heard any. wow t'ganu has some serious GTIs there. TS77 nickname is that him ? You should ask for a ride from either exotic mod's green gti or APR boss, Karl's stage 4 gti.very nice car in the avatar. anyways has whatsapp'ed u yesterday. got the msg ? He's beaten a few carrera 4S before when on stage 3 and that was almost 2 years ago. Wonder how the stage 4 feels like now |
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QUOTE(deadmau5 @ Sep 21 2012, 02:38 PM) You should ask for a ride from either exotic mod's green gti or APR boss, Karl's stage 4 gti. daym. how many hp? 350? both are mk 6 ?He's beaten a few carrera 4S before when on stage 3 and that was almost 2 years ago. Wonder how the stage 4 feels like now saw that green mk6 at Exmods before. wonder how long will their gb last. |
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Sep 21 2012, 03:05 PM
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I think it's somewhere around 400hp. Can't remember since its quite long alrd.
Yeah both mk6 of course This post has been edited by deadmau5: Sep 21 2012, 03:05 PM |
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Sep 21 2012, 04:59 PM
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Ok here are some photos I just took.
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