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K5WHITE
post Sep 26 2012, 12:42 PM

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thanks for many advices..
since i got none of the faceoff requirement, i need to beat him with kiting skill...

p/s : eu items sell cheaper than us?


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post Sep 26 2012, 12:48 PM

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QUOTE(sexbomb @ Sep 26 2012, 01:22 AM)
How come everyone so stronK now?
ayam jelly
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quit diablo!
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nice party with u! you should farm in act5/6 for some challenge in 1.05!

and thank u for resurrect me 3 times! sweat.gif


Added on September 26, 2012, 12:52 pm
QUOTE(K5WHITE @ Sep 26 2012, 10:42 AM)
watched the vid yest, but there is no actual explanation on how and wat gear, no?
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"For me, whenever Ghom shake his butt, move out of the way. Use Keen Eye to be able to attack just outside of gas (use Shift to prevent jumping back to gas). Spam MoH to recover HP. Passive including Transcendence, Seize The Initiative, OWE. With base AR of ~880, and with those skill, my defense is quite high. But I dont have LoH, no / minimal regen. My armor was around 7k i believe.

Been travelling, have not login a few days... really miss farming

PS: HP ~ 25k, DPS ~ 24k"
PSS: That was before 1.04 nerf on Ghom.

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry53288749


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K5WHITE
post Sep 26 2012, 01:00 PM

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eh..can install auction house only?
coz thinking of doing shopping in ofis..

sori...noob here
how to install then?

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post Sep 26 2012, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(K5WHITE @ Sep 26 2012, 01:00 PM)
eh..can install auction house only?
coz thinking of doing shopping in ofis..

sori...noob here
how to install then?
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kenot!
waklu
post Sep 26 2012, 01:15 PM

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who got flying dragon with WoL %crit chance?

mau try loceng build biggrin.gif
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post Sep 26 2012, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(waklu @ Sep 26 2012, 02:15 PM)
who got flying dragon with WoL %crit chance?

mau try loceng build biggrin.gif
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Sry long time no hit loceng bro
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post Sep 26 2012, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Sep 26 2012, 12:48 PM)
nice party with u! you should farm in act5/6 for some challenge in 1.05!

and thank u for resurrect me 3 times!  sweat.gif


Added on September 26, 2012, 12:52 pm

"For me, whenever Ghom shake his butt, move out of the way. Use Keen Eye to be able to attack just outside of gas (use Shift to prevent jumping back to gas). Spam MoH to recover HP. Passive including Transcendence, Seize The Initiative, OWE. With base AR of ~880, and with those skill, my defense is quite high. But I dont have LoH, no / minimal regen. My armor was around 7k i believe.

Been travelling, have not login a few days... really miss farming

PS: HP ~ 25k, DPS ~ 24k"
PSS: That was before 1.04 nerf on Ghom.

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry53288749
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i think u were just unfortunate to meet most elites that were fire/molten. since your andariel visage takes 6% its actually quite pain.
im just newbis only T_T haven't hit 100k dps also....got legendary drops but sucky stats, cant sell haiz saddingz

later we play again
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post Sep 26 2012, 02:32 PM

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need sifu's guide me , i wish to know how many all resist and armor at least able to tank inferno elites sad.gif .
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post Sep 26 2012, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(sexbomb @ Sep 26 2012, 02:31 PM)
i think u were just unfortunate to meet most elites that were fire/molten. since your andariel visage takes 6% its actually quite pain.
im just newbis only T_T haven't hit 100k dps also....got legendary drops but sucky stats, cant sell haiz saddingz

later we play again
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I also want :-) all 3 mantras. :-) Goodie.
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post Sep 26 2012, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(deyamato @ Sep 26 2012, 02:32 PM)
need sifu's guide me , i wish to know how many all resist and armor at least able to tank inferno elites sad.gif .
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6k armor + 600resist + 1.8k LoH??
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post Sep 26 2012, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Sep 26 2012, 02:43 PM)
6k armor + 600resist + 1.8k LoH??
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Best hit 7k armor with 700ish AR, LOH 1000 should be more then enough already with 30K hp minimally.
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post Sep 26 2012, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Sep 26 2012, 02:43 PM)
6k armor + 600resist + 1.8k LoH??
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total up or just the equipment ? cant even tank im at 1100 all resist(with buff) and 6.2k armor(equipment and base) just die like few seconds sad.gif

you guys can inspect my profile if theres alot mistake what i have to change.

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editted : 1 more question how to improve dps ? sorry for asking silly question.

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post Sep 26 2012, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(deyamato @ Sep 26 2012, 02:32 PM)
need sifu's guide me , i wish to know how many all resist and armor at least able to tank inferno elites sad.gif .
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To tank, you need LOH/LS or both.
I'll leave that to you to decide.

There are many types of elites. Each group has different damage.
Not all arcane the same. Not all plague the same. Not all fire the same.
So, it is really difficult to tell whether you can tank elites or not.

Based on my experience, you can use Ghom as a benchmark.
If you can tank Ghom, you can tank elites (arcane/poison/fire) in general.

Can't really tell how many LOH/LS you need either.
Because it depends on your DPS & attack speed too. If you can kill fast, you don't need to tank long.
So, you may need lower LOH/LS.
Anyway, do some testing and you will know your build can tank or not.


Added on September 26, 2012, 2:56 pm
QUOTE(deyamato @ Sep 26 2012, 02:46 PM)
total up or just the equipment ? cant even tank im at 1100 all resist(with buff) and 6.2k armor(equipment and base) just die like few seconds  sad.gif

you guys can inspect my profile if theres alot mistake what i have to change.

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editted : 1 more question how to improve dps ? sorry for asking silly question.
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Looking at your build, low DPS and low HP.
I think your armor (with shield) is not exactly high too.

Low DPS because you virtually has ZERO crit chance/crit dmg.

This post has been edited by ALeUNe: Sep 26 2012, 03:10 PM
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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Sep 26 2012, 03:43 PM)
6k armor + 600resist + 1.8k LoH??
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Susah sikit lah bro... mine monk 7k armor +800k above +.2.1k LoH can stand tough ghom fight no kite no run out.... baru ngam ngam.. stand inferno sure die less..
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QUOTE(deyamato @ Sep 26 2012, 02:46 PM)
total up or just the equipment ? cant even tank im at 1100 all resist(with buff) and 6.2k armor(equipment and base) just die like few seconds  sad.gif

you guys can inspect my profile if theres alot mistake what i have to change.

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editted : 1 more question how to improve dps ? sorry for asking silly question.
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Playing as a monk, it's best to equip gears with dex stat so change the shoulder and belt, at least. Since your monk is using a shield, do try to find one that has at least 21% block (to start with), 70 ar, dex and vit stat.

[Edited later]
Note: I'll try to look for a few suitable gears as a free gift to you soon.

This post has been edited by MOBAJOBG: Sep 26 2012, 03:23 PM
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post Sep 26 2012, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(deyamato @ Sep 26 2012, 02:46 PM)
total up or just the equipment ? cant even tank im at 1100 all resist(with buff) and 6.2k armor(equipment and base) just die like few seconds  sad.gif

you guys can inspect my profile if theres alot mistake what i have to change.

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editted : 1 more question how to improve dps ? sorry for asking silly question.
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the figure dps is merely a guide. I personally didn't take much attention to it. As long as I can ditch out 100k critical hit frequently (those yellow figures that pops out) and have as high LS/LoH as possible on high dps weapon.

Generally that number is basing on:
1. attack per second - sword is 1.4, dagger 1.5, Increase attack speed items adds on to the numbers.
2. critical hit chance (CC) & critical hit damage (CD), higher the better (and yes this is where it makes the numbers fly up to 100k @ 40%CC+400%CD)
3. item damage: for example your fist with 352-843 @ 1.54 spd willl yield (352+843)/1.54=920.3. If a same fist with 400-800 damage will yield 779 only.


Added on September 26, 2012, 3:22 pm6k armor with a shield is rather low. pump up your dex, str, armor. Should hit 7k++ with shield and 6k with dual wield.

This post has been edited by yuhhaur: Sep 26 2012, 03:22 PM
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post Sep 26 2012, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Sep 26 2012, 03:20 PM)
the figure dps is merely a guide. I personally didn't take much attention to it. As long as I can ditch out 100k critical hit frequently (those yellow figures that pops out) and have as high LS/LoH as possible on high dps weapon.

Generally that number is basing on:
1. attack per second - sword is 1.4, dagger 1.5, Increase attack speed items adds on to the numbers.
2. critical hit chance (CC) & critical hit damage (CD), higher the better (and yes this is where it makes the numbers fly up to 100k @ 40%CC+400%CD)
3. item damage: for example your fist with 352-843 @ 1.54 spd willl yield (352+843)/1.54=920.3. If a same fist with 400-800 damage will yield 779 only.


Added on September 26, 2012, 3:22 pm6k armor with a shield is rather low. pump up your dex, str, armor. Should hit 7k++ with shield and 6k with dual wield.
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Yuhhaur has a point and I do agree with him except on the last point 3. For me say the example given by Yuhhaur, between a 352-843 weapon or 400-800 weapon, assuming same IAS, I will pick 400-800 for the simple reason of consistency. Min damage will be 400 rather than 352. So i prefer to have a higher minimum range damage anyday over a higher max damage. smile.gif
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post Sep 26 2012, 04:10 PM

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Yes so lower dps does not meant bad either. Like I downgraded from a 850dps @ 1.2 att spd 0 LoH to a 780dps @ 1.3att 2.9%LS for better survival. Of course, how deep your pocket & how much you willing to spent is the key here.

Like myself I would not want to invest >10mil for a gear. Shop smart is my motto. Some other with 700Mil (yes you LifeX! tongue.gif) might be ok to throw 50mil to a fist.

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post Sep 26 2012, 04:15 PM

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any1 using Exploding Palm?
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post Sep 26 2012, 04:29 PM

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I just surprise to see you guys having high DPS on monk.

Feeling sad that my monk can do 31K dps. When Co-Op with Barbarian, I'm still hitting a minority where all kills by Barbarian... but do have better survival coz having 1.3K LOH.

One silly question want to ask.

Weapon in 3 types.

1. Min and Max Damage with Dex and etc.
2. Weapon Damage % with Dex and etc
3. xxx-xxx Damage with Dex and etc.

Among all these three, how do we know it carry higher dps?

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