wow ....u guys are so analytical in this matter...which is good not bad..

but my simple brain just think like this....cuz mp3-mp4 is like current inferno...mp5 above will definitely got harder in terms of monster dmg and HP/def....

so simple thinking is.....u have to have higher dmg and just enough def....its maybe 50:50 upgrade or whatever...u can not have too high DPS but low def...cuz the monster got more hp more def thus more dmg....or vice versa..

so simple solution is....go balanced ur char in terms of dmg and def...so that on higher MP ...u can kill it efficiently...but not get killed horribly...

This post has been edited by sangtupperware: Sep 28 2012, 12:27 PM

I think every monk will suffer from the STI nerf. How many of us are getting 1k STR + 2k armor from equipment? I tried this way but it sacrificing my DEX so much that it affect the effect of the DEX on attacking side.

NOTE: +2k armor means on average your 10pieces gear had to have +200 on average. Not an easy choice as to compensate others losses.

I think we'll be seeing more MoE+HT in higher MP levels.

Thats my point exactly. The Nerf on STI actually effects monk much more than what was initially thought. Monks now considered pariah class liao.

Want to survive? lower your dex get Armor. But then...you take forever to kill the monster. Catch 22....

Tested PTR. My monk gt raped badly by white scorpions in MP10. Nid higher armor, higher dps, higher hp, higher LS,..., basically regear everything.

However my monk can still perform well in MP5 in term of effectiveness. 1.0.5 will make u kip grinding for better gear then u can proceed to nx lvl. Or just AH for short cut

If thats the case, mind to share your build and stats?

So we have a bigger picture on the MP and we would have a benchmark.

one more issue:


Don't know how it will affect us that dodge so much.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/EAN-6902/hero/5919438

My weapon is in rmah bt the btm stat still retained. Basically I hav 100k dps, 31k hp, 4.5k armor, 500 resist, 0 LS/LOH in 1.0.5.

U may tin the prob lies on LS/LOH but I rather point it to the nerfed defence and subsequently DMG reduction. I've nt start to hit mobs already kiss floor at encounter of large group mobs.

LS/LOH will help but at the stage of nt reducing ur dps. 100k dps unbuff in mp10 is way too low unless u're enjoying killing mobs in minutes.

U should try ptr with ur monk as urs have 100k dps with LS & LOH. Then u will know what u r lacking of in MP10.

I already upgraded few gears.
I still can keep my armor at 6K+ (without shield) after patch 105.

---

Added on September 28, 2012, 1:56 pmMay I know which Act? A3?

This post has been edited by ALeUNe: Sep 28 2012, 01:56 PM

malas wanna try PTR. Wait till its officially up only see how.

I unbuff almost similar like you but higher HP and higher Armor ( without enchant ).

If possible just farm MP6-8 kua.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Sn00bz-6959/hero/10785073

struggling to hit 100k dps while maintaining 800AR, 6k armor, 1.3k LoH, 35k HP and above
profile are without enchantress buff



This post has been edited by sexbomb: Sep 28 2012, 02:10 PM

@ Aleune, A3 lor. Scorpion that we used to 1h but nw the other way round.

@ lifex, ya urs Monk may have better survivability. 1.0.5 may still nid 2 wks to come on9. Just my hunch.

Wahh..your item keng d wor. LOL. With that DPS and that amount of AR , LOH and HP and armor.

What else you want? Hahaha

This post has been edited by LifeX: Sep 28 2012, 02:19 PM

i know bro dont worry. its just a personal challenge.
if i wanna hit 100k dps i can just sell off both my weapon and get something without LoH
but i insist on retaining those stats


This post has been edited by sexbomb: Sep 28 2012, 02:22 PM

Bro yesterday v co-op aleune u have good performance dps they, but in mp level they u need survive gear longer, ur hp, armor n AR need higher abit will enough.... cos u using MoC if u use MoE....

Trying very hard to understand.

Means snoobz had very well DPS performance they but my point is need stand tough for longer when u killing elite MP level

FYI, i beaten Ghom with much of u guys help, and special thanks to Quaza for the vid posted at the first page...haha..so easy

now, i noticed many of u uses FoT Thunderclap...any particular reason?

Because of the LOH %, and the spirit generator. :-)

and thunderclap can chase enemy / avoid from other enemy

i would beg to differ that you were missing my point instead.
my point is mainly simple:
- it is not so bad to monks as you may think
- other classes faces the nerf too
- you will have worse things to worry about other than survival

ill pick WD/wiz as examples:

the change to energy armor means that wizards are getting shafted higher in overall damage reduction compared to monk. do take note on the 1:10 ratio, and having both armor/resistance reduction (better geared wiz all uses prismatic, not force armor) will reduce your overall dmg reduction greatly.

now for WD it is a bit tricky, (do correct me if i am wrong on the dmg reduction being multiplicative or additive, since WD are like so friggin rare and i dont even play one myself) if you are actually decently geared in armor and resistance, you will be getting a huge defensive nerf. however if you're a pure glass cannon that dies from basically anything in a hit, then not so much effect to you anyways.

now comparing to our fellow melee brother the barbarian:
i'll put it to you that barbarians have absolutely NO PROBLEM in gaining armor, they however may have some difficulty in gaining resistance considering that they do not have OwE and balancing a secondary resistance throughout all your gear pieces can be a difficult task (however rewarding if you can pull it off anyways)
and guess what:

welp! too bad, they now have even worse problems in gaining resistance now!

but you see, i firmly believe no one that's prepared to play in higher MP levels are gonna cry about defensive skills/passive change. because they are going to have worse problems in dispatching mobs. i don't know about you, unless your idea of wailing at a WHITE MOB for 5-10mins is your idea of fun, i am pretty certain that the huge majority of the community would want nothing of that sort.

if you get my whole point in the first place, you would immediately understand why most monk would not bother to re-gear and continue their pursuit in getting higher dps. (or overall higher quality gear)

on LS/LoH/healing, you're simply mixing things up. by your logic, even barbs/wiz are hit as bad as monks considering their nerf "scales" as MP goes up (again, by your logic)
the only class that are probably not affected by this are DH, however even blizz acknowledges that their class are very binary and are being look at (either you are godlike or you die even if someone as much as sneezes at a DH) and if you've seen the video of that 150k dmg DH (without SS) wailing at a white mob in mp10, i think the DH would have better concerns on how to buff dps over trying how to survive

on GF/MF bonus, it is only assuming if you are paragon 100 which im sure majority of us are still a long way to go in that. which comes down to stacking mf/gf gear, and doing that in mp levels is... kinda suicidal i would think.