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ALeUNe
post Jul 22 2012, 05:48 AM

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QUOTE(LifeX @ Jul 18 2012, 10:29 AM)
My old stats, help me finish Diablo, and currently farming in Act 3 easily. ( Now got abit Upgrade )

Act 3 -Act 4 are the same % in drops, ACT 3 drops much better in Seigebreaker quest.

AVG from bridge to Azmodan around 2 hours+.

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May I know your skills?
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post Jul 22 2012, 11:41 PM

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I just completed A2 Inferno. Play co-op public game.
Comfortable with dual-wield throughout the game.
Killed each and every mob/elite/boss we saw.

18K DPS / 42K HP / 620+ AR / 5500 Armor / 850 LOH

I'll upgrade my shoulder and bracer armor. That should give me slightly more DEX/VIT/AR/DPS.
I'll need a barb in A3/A4.

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post Jul 23 2012, 12:30 AM

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QUOTE(dearblues @ Jul 23 2012, 12:12 AM)
AR = ? arcane resist?

so its still relevant to use fist for act 1 and act 2 that is?
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AR = All-resist
I picked all resist because I can use the same gears for my DH.

My best fist weapon was only 600+dps.
I used it until A4 Hell.

I'll using axe & spear in A1/A2 Inferno.
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post Jul 23 2012, 12:43 AM

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QUOTE(-JusJasMiNe- @ Jul 23 2012, 12:40 AM)
wah bro ,, i complete A4 hell wif less than 200dps item =( lvling too slow
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My brain wasn't working fine... too long hours gaming.
I meant I was using axe & spear (dual-wield) in A1 & A2 inferno.
I'm now in A3 Inferno.
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post Jul 23 2012, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Jul 23 2012, 10:04 AM)
Cakap senang unsure.gif .
Is palamonk a trend to go in act 3? Now I'm still dual wield with 1hand LoH and offhand crit. manage to push to 1.8k dex, 700AR, 6k armor, and 18k dps.

Summerfist and Enchantress doesn't have dirty talk beside knowing that Templar is falling in love with Enchantress.
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Do you have LOH?
I have similar attributes like yours + 850+ LOH.
A3 is doable.
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post Jul 23 2012, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(tlts @ Jul 23 2012, 01:42 PM)
last time  farm at buthcher run then notice ii too lazy to walk to much so now doing the cementary of forcaken 3 door then redo again  laugh.gif
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A1 and A3 are quite common.

Try to suggest something different.
Gear up and boost up your gold find %.
Farm at A2 Hell mode - Blood & Sand/The Black Soulstone.
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post Jul 24 2012, 09:38 AM

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Mantra of Evasion (Hard Target) vs Mantra of Healing (Time of Need)
Which is better for A3/A4 Inferno?


Added on July 24, 2012, 9:40 am
QUOTE(Coconut @ Jul 23 2012, 09:56 PM)
Solo and co-op for inferno, both are the same right?

Solo i cant even pass act 1 inferno, but co-op can...makes me want to play co-op more, plus easier to get 5NV
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For your case, it is 4 elites gang-rape you at the same time VS 4 human players gang-rape an elite monster at a time

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post Jul 24 2012, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(LifeX @ Jul 24 2012, 09:48 AM)
It really depends on your char's build. If your on high resistance already on your own EQ, then go with Hard Target as it increases your dodge chance with Armor +.

If you really have medium resist then Time Of Need is the best.

As for me , I use MoC ( Overawe ), My CC is at 38% and CD at 280%, with overawe, can kill easily. Armor around 6K and Resist at 800+.

Enough to finish Diablo. :-). Show your stats and see.
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I was a Barb.
I'm still a new Monk, requires a lot of experiment on different skills.
I did some skill tests yesterday and didn't have good runs. laugh.gif

Help me to define high and medium.
Unbuffed, I have 20K DPS / 44K HP / 6000 Armor / 760 AR / 850 LOH

I'm bidding a shoulder armor.
If I get it, I will have 22K DPS / 48K HP / 6150 Armor / 810 AR / 850 LOH


Added on July 24, 2012, 10:24 am
QUOTE(deodorant @ Jul 24 2012, 09:48 AM)
MoE (HT) probably better because of the additional dodge. In the first 3 seconds my dodge goes up to something like 60%.
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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Jul 24 2012, 10:04 AM)
That also depends on who are you dealing with.

Bosskill : MoH is kinda useless as either they 1hit you or not (like butcher/belial's case) so MoE with dodge is always better. IMHO as for MoC against bosskill, if your attack is high enough you don't even need that to add another few seconds reduction. Better opt for high armor in case you can't avoid the Oh-Shi~ moment.

Elite: As what Sifus' are advised.

NOTE: Dual wield with Guardian's path adds another 15% dodge chance.
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MoH was still good in A1/A2 Inferno.
I found it is pretty much useless in A3. The elites are much more powerful.

Without the right skill, I found I was heading to a totally wrong path. laugh.gif
Any recommendation of passive skills?

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post Jul 24 2012, 10:30 AM

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QUOTE(LifeX @ Jul 24 2012, 10:25 AM)
With your stats it should be fine in Act 3 and 4 with MoC. All your stats is higher then mine. Only DPS lose. I used to use WoTF, but see some pple advise and calculate on the % of LOH per attack. FoT ( Thunderclap ) gets more % in LOH which i have tried == TRUE. With my 2.16 Attack Speed, FoT rocks + your LOH so high, it would be a blast.

My stats now only (with buff ), 55K DPS // 37K HP ( Mystic Ally ) // 6650 Armor ( with Enchant ) // 835 AR // 755 LOH.
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I have shitty attack speed, only 1.23 on a spear.
I'm still wondering to change the weapon or not.
Fist weapon with IAS?

I don't quite get it. You mean with FoT (Thunderclap), there is a better LOH return?


Added on July 24, 2012, 10:33 am
QUOTE(LifeX @ Jul 24 2012, 10:25 AM)
With your stats it should be fine in Act 3 and 4 with MoC. All your stats is higher then mine. Only DPS lose. I used to use WoTF, but see some pple advise and calculate on the % of LOH per attack. FoT ( Thunderclap ) gets more % in LOH which i have tried == TRUE. With my 2.16 Attack Speed, FoT rocks + your LOH so high, it would be a blast.

My stats now only (with buff ), 55K DPS // 37K HP ( Mystic Ally ) // 6650 Armor ( with Enchant ) // 835 AR // 755 LOH.
Try using MoC in Act 2. You can see you can finish farming in 15 min or less with your stats. :-).

Do you play Crit Chance?

Im using OfE, Forgotten the name but its dex = 100% armor, and also dodge change = 30% of crit chance.

As i play crit chance so i feel that is more useful for me. Although it doesnt add much its still ok for me, as i dont dual wield ( shield ), the 15% dodge chance dont apply to me.

LPSS i feel its not much use to me, although FoT regens my Spirit damn fast ( due to attack speed , hit more and faster regens my spirits faster ), i rather have dodge then have life as Im rolling with LOH.

Just my two cents.
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I have 24.5 crit chance and 233% crit dmg.

P/S I saw you using Mystic Ally. I used Mystic Ally (Earth) in A1/A2 Inferno too.
But I found my Mystic Ally became toufu in A3. Seems useless.
Do you think it is good for A3/A4?

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post Jul 24 2012, 11:08 AM

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Thanks for all the replies.
I was using Deadly Reach (Keen Eye). I was a Barb and I was sweat.gif when I see my Monk only has 6000 armor. laugh.gif
I'll go try Thunderclap.

So, for Mantra, it would be either MoE (Hard Target) or MoC (Overawe) for defensive or offensive build.

Any recommendation on the passive skills? Seize the Initiative & One with Everything are the common ones.
LifeX mentioned Sixth Sense (along with crit chance) but I am not quite comfortable with the dodge thing (I still have Barb shadow in my brain).
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post Jul 24 2012, 05:15 PM

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How to kill Ghom the fat fart?? mad.gif
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post Jul 24 2012, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Jul 24 2012, 05:16 PM)
I thought you already know? tonight we try? I am at keep level 3.
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I stuck at the big fat fart now.
Any special way to kill it?

I used MoC(Overawe) and sailed smoothly until the fat fart.


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post Jul 24 2012, 07:54 PM

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Jul 11 2012, 01:35 PM)
Like this

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http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2346647/+2482

You had at least 50% HP most of the time.
Cow, how did you do it? Watching the video, your HP doesn't drain fast.
What's the trick? You have more AR, armor, LOH, life regen? Or a special combo of skills?
What's your AR, armor, LOH, life regen and skills?

Watching your video, you could cast you skill before the HP drained.
The skill was able to cool down in time.
For me, my HP drained before skills cool down.
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post Jul 25 2012, 09:15 AM

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Jul 24 2012, 11:30 PM)
For me, whenever Ghom shake his butt, move out of the way. Use Keen Eye to be able to attack just outside of gas (use Shift to prevent jumping back to gas). Spam MoH to recover HP. Passive including Transcendence, Seize The Initiative, OWE. With base AR of ~880, and with those skill, my defense is quite high. But I dont have LoH, no / minimal regen. My armor was around 7k i believe.

Been travelling, have not login a few days... really miss farming biggrin.gif

PS: HP ~ 25k, DPS ~ 24k
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I ran before his shake butt. But the HP still drained dry while I was 10 yard away.
His fart sent me flying into pieces. laugh.gif

I'll try again tonight.
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post Jul 25 2012, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Jul 25 2012, 09:25 AM)
Me2. My best record YTD was to drain it down to 1/4 before choke to death.
Bidding some +2xx dex items and a helm +4%hp with empty socket (will slot a star +15% hp = +19% hp ftw!) hope to boost armor more.
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I got a Barb, 2 Monks and a Wizard in a co-op game.
The Barb & Wizard could kill Ghom easily.
I was just walk-here-and-there and yet I was killed by the airborne poison. laugh.gif
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post Jul 25 2012, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(shinkawa @ Jul 25 2012, 10:30 AM)
another idea, use thunder fist as its the best spirit generator
then use passive skill heal per spirit spend

keep spam mantra of healing that got absorb shield while you also heal life with spirit
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Already done that. Spirit didn't generate fast enough.
The HP drain is way way faster than spirit generation.
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post Jul 25 2012, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(Currylaksa @ Jul 25 2012, 10:25 AM)
Hard to find a decent guide on Inferno budget monk 250k. sad.gif

Oh, and check this out! laugh.gif

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Curry, just saw your message in D3.
I was away. Just logon to check some items at AH.

250K? blink.gif
The weapon seems a bit cheaper now.
Weapon like spear.
I got one for 2 million with 184 DEX / 95 VIT / 73% Crit DMG. thumbup.gif
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post Jul 25 2012, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(Currylaksa @ Jul 25 2012, 11:07 AM)
oo nice stats ohmy.gif
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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Jul 25 2012, 11:11 AM)
what's the dps?

I got my 700dps sword +2xx dex / +12x VIT / 45% Crit Dmg / Free socket at 400k biggrin.gif
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Yeap, 754.2 DPS with decent 461-796 damage.
Forgot to mention it has 415 LOH too.

The damage is better than many 800DPS weapons.

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post Jul 25 2012, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(shinkawa @ Jul 25 2012, 11:23 AM)
1.2 is slow for me.

i see before from blizzard forum. dual wield spear with 1k dps each. both got attack speed makes up 1.33 something.
damn good stats
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Poor Monk has limited budget. Therefore 1.2 weapon. laugh.gif

I find the attack speed doesn't affect Monk (as compared to Barb).
With slow weapon, Barb will have a slow swing.
But for monk, it is always 1-2-3 attack and attack speed is still good to kill monsters in A3.
I'm now in Heart of Sin.


Added on July 25, 2012, 11:34 am
QUOTE(Currylaksa @ Jul 25 2012, 11:25 AM)
If you want more rare from elites, use the Exploding Palm exploit. Blizzard hotfixed this 4 times and it's still there dry.gif

When you find a 4-blue elite pack, get all down to low health and kill them simultaneously with exploding palm. Each member will drops its own set of rares with 5NV.
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Kill 4-blue elite simultaneously?
It sounds tough. laugh.gif


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post Jul 25 2012, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(shinkawa @ Jul 25 2012, 11:36 AM)
i played barb, i don care attack speed for barb coz he got frenzy attack can stack up to75% AS. from 1.20 can become 1.6 something. Still can LoH comfortable.

when i use monk 1.2 daibo. nice damage but whack damn slow. crit and Loh also slow.

Thats why i said it's slow for me.
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Even in Frenzy, you will find the movement is slow with slow weapon.
I didn't use Frenzy for my Barb, especially in Inferno.
I used Bash because I found it can hit many targets and it gave me better LOH return.

I think all two-hand 1.2 without IAS is slow. Barb's two hand weapon is really slow too.
One-hand 1.2 is different.
Monk's 1-2-3 attack, i.e. Deadly Reach, it's like pierce-shield push-kick.
I find the movement speed is still acceptable.

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