same as daijoubu


it doesnt apply at all


hhaha

And 大家 means landlord in Japanese.

In Chinese I think the word means "everyone" or "everybody".

This post has been edited by The_YongGrand: Aug 9 2006, 12:38 PM

U r right........It's called Kunyoumi and onyoumi~!

Kun-yomi is the Japanese (their own) pronounciation of Kanji itself.

On-yomi is the Chinese (means sound reading) pronounciation of Kanji.

It is believed that the On-yomi is derived from Chinese pronounciations, and also some more Chinese Dialects as well.

This post has been edited by The_YongGrand: Aug 9 2006, 12:47 PM

just expose more to the japanese text and listening to their pronouciation ,u will eventually remember how are those kanji are pronounced

something might help

http://www.j-talk.com/nihongo/

Shall we teach those 80 4kyuu Jouyou Kanji?

tht's not too bad actually.. while grade 2 having 8k kanji as minimum basic, even me with mandrin background will start to sob soon

Chinese proficiency level 2? or Japanese proficiency for foreigners level 2?
It is more than 1000 Jouyou Kanji for 2kyuu anyways.

This post has been edited by dopodplaya: Aug 10 2006, 07:59 AM

Thanks for the link!

How about basic number, not just any kind of one two three.
We'll look more into the usage - numbering; date - seconds, minutes, days,weeks, months,year; counters; other meanings, onyomi and kunyomi and even some rare pronounciation.

dopodplaya, you are free to use this thread for educational purposes if you want. We could all use the extra input.

Hey jhcj, the site not yet up?

Actually if you notice, I uploaded a program into your ftp server. But I dont know how to link it here. @_@

It's a flash card program to help memorise kanji.

Basic Lessons on Number, Commencing!

Let's start with the basic kun-yomi (the Japanese pronounciations)
For those who already learned Japanese or Chinese, observe the suprise later lessons.

Basic 0 to 10

Suprise no. 1
零 (Kanji, rarely used for number 0) or 〇 (a perfect circle) - zero, rei (rarely used)

一 - ichi (one)
二 - ni (two)
三 - san (three)
四- yon (four)
五- go (five)
六 - roku (six)
七 - nana (seven)
八 - hachi (eight)
九 - kyuu or kuu (nine)
十 - jyuu or ju (ten)

No suprising fact, do you know where the word Yakuza came from?
It's from the numbers 8-9-3 (in total 20, ya = 8, ku = 9, 3 = sa(za))

There is a traditional Japanese card game, where you need to win with 19 face instead of 21 (blackjack). 20 face meaning you are losing the game by one point. Isn't it a disgrace to lose just by one face? Later, Yakuza (8-9-3) is used to described dark, digraced and unfortunate society of Japan, the Yakuza.

Irregular kun-yomi for today - e.g. 三 three = sa or za.
The regular kun-yomi is san (さん).

Tips for today
Be careful, san could also mean (mountain) e.g. 藤山
Fujisan (regular - Fujiyama, Mount Fuji, not Mr. Fuji 藤さん, notice the kana).

For basic Japanese lessons, refer to the start of this thread.

This post has been edited by dopodplaya: Aug 13 2006, 01:13 AM

Eh... I thought ichi, ni, san, yon, go....... is in Chinese (on yomi) reading itself?

Here's a little bit of self-promotion-cum-community message This one goes out to LYN-ers living in the Penang area: If you're interested in taking classes in Japanese, you can drop by the Penang Japanese Language Society (PJLS) at Jalan Gottlieb for more details, or visit our little recently-launched website here at http://www.pjls.org

The rates are pretty cheap where Japanese classes are concerned. Do take note that we only open after 7pm on weekdays.

actually rei is used pretty normally.

4 can also be pronounced shi
7 can also be pronounced sichi

no chinese background shouldnt deter u from studying japanese. i don't have one and got my 2nd level proficiency in 1.5 years. i've heard of other foreigners who got 1st level in the same amount of time. がんばって！!あきらめないでください

This post has been edited by clemong_888: Aug 15 2006, 05:29 PM

Thanks for the feedbacks. My post is rather a discussion not a teaching post. I just wonder if nobody replies.
Yes, ichi, ni, san are on-yomi and kun-yomi for ONE, TWO and THREE. However, "yon" is kun-yomi and "shi" is on-yomi, for FOUR. As for "nana" (SEVEN), the on-yomi is "sichi". "Rei" (on-yomi for "zero") usually refers to the jouyou kanji pronounciation, but for counting, "zero"; which has English origin is usually used for conversation/counting.

If there is any request, I'll post more information as soon as possible. Keep this thread alive, mmmkay.

Btw, on-yomi isn't Chinese at all. It does derived Chinese pronounciation, but it is actually Japanese, naturally tailored to suit Japanese tounge.

This post has been edited by dopodplaya: Aug 17 2006, 04:55 PM

u're right on this.

This post has been edited by clemong_888: Aug 17 2006, 06:49 PM