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The_YongGrand
post Aug 9 2006, 12:28 PM

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I don't have any Chinese basic but I can cope up with the lessons provided. I can now grasp at least 240~325 of the most basic Kanji.

The most difficult is not actually writing the words, or the pronounciation actually - the multiple readings of one Kanji character.

You might found out that is said as "kuruma", but the another reading for that is "sha". That's why most people can get confused by the multiple readings of one Kanji character.

The reading "Kuruma" is used when it is used by itself.

The reading "Sha" is used when it's used as compound words, like 汽車, "ki-sha"(locomotive train).

Sometimes they have two to three readings for one word. blink.gif

This post has been edited by The_YongGrand: Aug 9 2006, 12:30 PM
The_YongGrand
post Aug 9 2006, 12:38 PM

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And 大家 means landlord in Japanese.

In Chinese I think the word means "everyone" or "everybody".

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post Aug 9 2006, 12:46 PM

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Kun-yomi is the Japanese (their own) pronounciation of Kanji itself.

On-yomi is the Chinese (means sound reading) pronounciation of Kanji.

It is believed that the On-yomi is derived from Chinese pronounciations, and also some more Chinese Dialects as well. biggrin.gif

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post Aug 15 2006, 08:49 AM

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QUOTE(dopodplaya @ Aug 13 2006, 12:53 AM)
Basic Lessons on Number, Commencing!

Let's start with the basic kun-yomi (the Japanese pronounciations)
For those who already learned Japanese or Chinese, observe the suprise later lessons.

Basic 0 to 10

Suprise no. 1
零 (Kanji, rarely used for number 0) or 〇 (a perfect circle) - zero, rei (rarely used)

一 - ichi (one)
二 - ni (two)
三 - san (three)
四- yon (four)
五- go (five)
六 - roku (six)
七 - nana (seven)
八 - hachi (eight)
九 - kyuu or kuu (nine)
十 - jyuu or ju (ten)

No suprising fact, do you know where the word Yakuza came from?
It's from the numbers 8-9-3 (in total 20, ya = 8, ku = 9, 3 = sa(za))

There is a traditional Japanese card game, where you need to win with 19 face instead of 21 (blackjack). 20 face meaning you are losing the game by one point. Isn't it a disgrace to lose just by one face? Later, Yakuza (8-9-3) is used to described dark, digraced and unfortunate society of Japan, the Yakuza.

Irregular kun-yomi for today - e.g. 三 three = sa or za.
The regular kun-yomi is san (さん).

Tips for today
Be careful, san could also mean (mountain) e.g. 藤山
Fujisan (regular - Fujiyama, Mount Fuji, not Mr. Fuji 藤さん, notice the kana).

For basic Japanese lessons, refer to the start of this thread.
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Eh... I thought ichi, ni, san, yon, go....... is in Chinese (on yomi) reading itself?

 

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