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 Blizzard admits the lack of long term endgame, Prepare for a depressing read

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post Jul 5 2012, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(sammm33 @ Jul 5 2012, 11:31 AM)
so after all those scary figure, now only bliz decide to lower themself and listen to players opinion ?
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I dont think they have a choice now.... they just need to change or ppl will keep quitting...
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QUOTE(gaeria84 @ Jul 5 2012, 11:28 AM)
A 60% drop in player numbers is no laughing matter, especially for a company who makes their profits from the RMAH. 60% less players, 60% less profit. That's why they decided to come out and tell us that endgame in this game is simply not sufficient because they KNOW that player numbers are dropping way too fast and they KNOW that player retention is a huge issue in this game.
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Problem with this, you are stating all these as facts, but... all you got are

1. unreliable statistics from dubious sources
2. playing amateur psychologist in second-guessing CM statements

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post Jul 5 2012, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(gaeria84 @ Jul 5 2012, 11:28 AM)
A 60% drop in player numbers is no laughing matter, especially for a company who makes their profits from the RMAH. 60% less players, 60% less profit. That's why they decided to come out and tell us that endgame in this game is simply not sufficient because they KNOW that player numbers are dropping way too fast and they KNOW that player retention is a huge issue in this game.
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i am not sure if anyone's (like blizz) really laughing on this. the players certainly aren't. blizz being blizz probably aren't if they are able to admit on faults such as these. you could probably pin that alleged troll CM bashiok for his "haha" comment word by word quote, but really, do you think he is actually laughing much if any at all?

you'd be delusional if a company won't fire/pay cut their employees if it aint doing well. even a company like blizz.

and seriously, do you think blizz really makes *THAT* much from RMAH with their 1usd/cut? i mean, do you think they had to RELY on RMAH to survive as a company disregarding how many they made off just from day 1 sales alone? or even the fact that they STILL have their cash cow WoW despite its continual decline?

come on, you can do better than this, right?
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QUOTE(farkinid @ Jul 5 2012, 11:31 AM)
God another "Diablo sucks, you are all fanboys" vs "Diablo is fine, you are all childish" thread.
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good for "atas pagar" people though, more popcorn session whistling.gif
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QUOTE(farkinid @ Jul 5 2012, 11:31 AM)
God another "Diablo sucks, you are all fanboys" vs "Diablo is fine, you are all childish" thread.
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post Jul 5 2012, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jul 5 2012, 11:15 AM)
both of my sisters, and their GIRL friends bought a copy on release day, and playing the damn game till this very day. hell, my sister sold a friggin 900dps WD weapon for 6m (after tax 5.1m) and is now richer than me. FML man :/
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ya, my cousin sis playing too. her previously favorite game is farmville. laugh.gif well, she is still not so pro yet.. i help power level a little from time to time.

about casual player also buying the game, i think Bliz strategy pay off. no other game in the history has so much transparency (some call it hype) before launching the game. i enjoy every BlizCon when Jay and team talks about the mechanics and some of the decision they made for D3.

an example, someone complain about Boss keep PA (announce) what they doing; actually, if you follow their development, this is a clever trick to 'tell a story' while allowing player to keep slashing mobs. Unlike in D2, you have to sit in town, read thru conversation...
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post Jul 5 2012, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(Currylaksa @ Jul 5 2012, 11:34 AM)
Problem with this, you are stating all these as facts, but... all you got are

1. unreliable statistics from dubious sources
2. playing amateur psychologist in second-guessing CM statements
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but i do think its true, just look at my own friend list call tell the same; more and more friend away for more and more days, where at peak use to have more than 10 firends, now left around 2-3 still (and i know at least 2 is botting). the rest? neither is having a long afk for chill out, some online kejap see see look look then offline again, or some even no online at all ady.
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jul 5 2012, 11:15 AM)
so you're gonna derail this to bots and avoid answering my honest question/plea?

let me turn this back to you: "why do you think people run bots on a game?"
"is it because there is interest, and it is profitable to run bots on said game?"

do think about it. smile.gif

as for bashiok, i've provided some VERY generous numbers to "proof" his fact. you can't even at least attempt to rebuke that? come on, if you want to flame a troll, at least put some effort in to it.


Added on July 5, 2012, 11:16 am

both of my sisters, and their GIRL friends bought a copy on release day, and playing the damn game till this very day. hell, my sister sold a friggin 900dps WD weapon for 6m (after tax 5.1m) and is now richer than me. FML man :/
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can... can haz their contactz??

in b4 'NO!!! U STAY FOREVERALONE .jpg'
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post Jul 5 2012, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Jul 5 2012, 10:33 AM)
I just completed Inferno last night...
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Congrats!
I haven't got the time to whack the big fat Ghom. laugh.gif
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post Jul 5 2012, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(jenniferjen @ Jul 5 2012, 11:33 AM)
I dont think they have a choice now.... they just need to change or ppl will keep quitting...
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i am, like, half quit ady , sigh....
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post Jul 5 2012, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Jul 5 2012, 11:39 AM)
ya, my cousin sis playing too. her previously favorite game is farmville.  laugh.gif well, she is still not so pro yet.. i help power level a little from time to time.

about casual player also buying the game, i think Bliz strategy pay off. no other game in the history has so much transparency (some call it hype) before launching the game. i enjoy every BlizCon when Jay and team talks about the mechanics and some of the decision they made for D3.

an example, someone complain about Boss keep PA (announce) what they doing; actually, if you follow their development, this is a clever trick to 'tell a story' while allowing player to keep slashing mobs. Unlike in D2, you have to sit in town, read thru conversation...
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huh, since when D2 you sit in town read through conversation, i just skip through it and back to slashing.... haha...
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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Jul 5 2012, 11:39 AM)
an example, someone complain about Boss keep PA (announce) what they doing; actually, if you follow their development, this is a clever trick to 'tell a story' while allowing player to keep slashing mobs. Unlike in D2, you have to sit in town, read thru conversation...
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Story wise, it doesn't make sense having a boss tell you step by step on how to defeat him. The supposed most cunning master tactitian.

Telling a story while slashing mobs. Pretty difficult to comprehend what he is saying when I'm busy running away from OP Elites.
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QUOTE(Instant_noodle @ Jul 5 2012, 11:41 AM)
can... can haz their contactz??

in b4 'NO!!! U STAY FOREVERALONE .jpg'
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+1...

if no contact can give, at least FB link plz~~~~
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QUOTE(sammm33 @ Jul 5 2012, 11:42 AM)
i am, like, half quit ady , sigh....
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it's been 2 weeks plus not in here, and the topic still panas panas ka? i'm on runicgames d luu~ d3.. forgot i had it
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QUOTE(sammm33 @ Jul 5 2012, 11:31 AM)
so after all those scary figure, now only bliz decide to lower themself and listen to players opinion ?
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name 1 game that has this many patches in less than 2 months:

2.1 Patch 1.0.3a – v.1.0.3.10235 - June 26th, 2012
2.2 Patch 1.0.3 – v.1.0.3.10057 - June 19th, 2012
2.3 Patch 1.0.2c – v.1.0.2.9991 - June 11, 2012
2.4 Patch 1.0.2b – v.1.0.2.9950 - June 6, 2012
2.5 Patch 1.0.2a - v.1.0.2.9858 - May 31, 2012
2.6 Patch 1.0.2 - v.1.0.2.9749 - May 29th, 2012
2.7 Retail Patch 0 - v.1.01.9558 - May 15th, 2012

they adjust the Inferno Act2 onwards almost immediately after the game released... now working on 1.04 and 1.1... for me, they listen more than anyone else...

dont like Mass Effect 3 ending? wait for next DLC in 6 or more months...
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QUOTE(Currylaksa @ Jul 5 2012, 11:34 AM)
Problem with this, you are stating all these as facts, but... all you got are

1. unreliable statistics from dubious sources
2. playing amateur psychologist in second-guessing CM statements
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"facts"

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrom...iw=1280&bih=679

1) A thing that is indisputably the case.
2) Information used as evidence or as part of a report or news article.

he's totally way off the mark on that laugh.gif
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QUOTE(noobandroid @ Jul 5 2012, 11:44 AM)
it's been 2 weeks plus not in here, and the topic still panas panas ka? i'm on runicgames d luu~ d3.. forgot i had it
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Wuu wuu... me too kakaka... i wont say is much better but at least it addictive than D3, imho...


Added on July 5, 2012, 11:48 am
QUOTE(cowithgun @ Jul 5 2012, 11:46 AM)
name 1 game that has this many patches in less than 2 months:

2.1 Patch 1.0.3a – v.1.0.3.10235 - June 26th, 2012
2.2 Patch 1.0.3 – v.1.0.3.10057 - June 19th, 2012
2.3 Patch 1.0.2c – v.1.0.2.9991 - June 11, 2012
2.4 Patch 1.0.2b – v.1.0.2.9950 - June 6, 2012
2.5 Patch 1.0.2a - v.1.0.2.9858 - May 31, 2012
2.6 Patch 1.0.2 - v.1.0.2.9749 - May 29th, 2012
2.7 Retail Patch 0 - v.1.01.9558 - May 15th, 2012

they adjust the Inferno Act2 onwards almost immediately after the game released... now working on 1.04 and 1.1... for me, they listen more than anyone else...

dont like Mass Effect 3 ending? wait for next DLC in 6 or more months...
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Except the fact that the patch is getting worst that the others....


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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Jul 5 2012, 11:39 AM)
ya, my cousin sis playing too. her previously favorite game is farmvillelaugh.gif well, she is still not so pro yet.. i help power level a little from time to time.

about casual player also buying the game, i think Bliz strategy pay off. no other game in the history has so much transparency (some call it hype) before launching the game. i enjoy every BlizCon when Jay and team talks about the mechanics and some of the decision they made for D3.

an example, someone complain about Boss keep PA (announce) what they doing; actually, if you follow their development, this is a clever trick to 'tell a story' while allowing player to keep slashing mobs. Unlike in D2, you have to sit in town, read thru conversation...
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well shit, aint d3 the perfect game for her since you know, farming ALL DAY ERRY DAY
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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Jul 5 2012, 11:46 AM)
name 1 game that has this many patches in less than 2 months:

2.1 Patch 1.0.3a – v.1.0.3.10235 - June 26th, 2012
2.2 Patch 1.0.3 – v.1.0.3.10057 - June 19th, 2012
2.3 Patch 1.0.2c – v.1.0.2.9991 - June 11, 2012
2.4 Patch 1.0.2b – v.1.0.2.9950 - June 6, 2012
2.5 Patch 1.0.2a - v.1.0.2.9858 - May 31, 2012
2.6 Patch 1.0.2 - v.1.0.2.9749 - May 29th, 2012
2.7 Retail Patch 0 - v.1.01.9558 - May 15th, 2012

they adjust the Inferno Act2 onwards almost immediately after the game released... now working on 1.04 and 1.1... for me, they listen more than anyone else...

dont like Mass Effect 3 ending? wait for next DLC in 6 or more months...
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Dungeon Defenders. I think more patch could indicate more than one way. Either they listen to the customer, or they screwed up the product from the beginning.

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