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 Blizzard admits the lack of long term endgame, Prepare for a depressing read

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post Jul 5 2012, 02:07 PM

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offically quit:D list of donation will be out SOON
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MONK/ WIZZIE GEAR PLOX!!!!!!!!!!!

and geld...
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QUOTE(takkicom @ Jul 5 2012, 02:05 PM)
offically quit:D list of donation will be out SOON
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i got alt wiz/WD that could use donations laugh.gif


Added on July 5, 2012, 2:09 pm
QUOTE(Instant_noodle @ Jul 5 2012, 02:07 PM)
MONK/ WIZZIE GEAR PLOX!!!!!!!!!!!

and geld...
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post Jul 5 2012, 02:09 PM

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Actually, what type of long term endgame were people expecting? You kill monsters, loot drops and then what?
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QUOTE(takkicom @ Jul 5 2012, 02:05 PM)
offically quit:D list of donation will be out SOON
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Put me in your list. I will recycle your gold. laugh.gif
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post Jul 5 2012, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(Kidicarus @ Jul 5 2012, 02:09 PM)
Actually, what type of long term endgame were people expecting?  You kill monsters, loot drops and then what?
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- NO RMAH
- NO FARMING
- NO HEAVY REPAIR BILL
- NO RIDICULOUS ELITES
- NO LOUSY LEGENDARY
- N-...

wait. none of those touches end game...?










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post Jul 5 2012, 02:20 PM

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- NO RMAH
- NO FARMING
- NO HEAVY REPAIR BILL
- NO RIDICULOUS ELITES
- NO LOUSY LEGENDARY
- N-...

wait. none of those touches end game...?
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end game: making blizzard handing virtual phat lewts to players

quite a challenge, actually...
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post Jul 5 2012, 02:38 PM

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all donate on the list kekeke tonight i make a list might be super rubbish to you all
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post Jul 5 2012, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jul 5 2012, 02:01 PM)
- because players (like disgusting DH!) CRIED "hey, i stack 1k all resist and yet i still get 1 shotted, whats the point right?! might as well stack dps onry and smoke screen because athene does it and he WINS GAMES"

- they succeeded in making death meaningful. it makes players THINK TWICE about stacking pure dps (again, stinking DH) while melees (like me) dont have that much of an issue because we ALREADY stack defensive stats. again, 2 side of the wall on crying f***s, blizzard chose the lesser evil which is to make the game balanced for classes so people arent forced to roll a DH (or wiz/WD) all day erry day

- they did not remove gold/loot. go login the damn game and break a f***ing breakable and tell me if coins drop or not. i can assure you they still do. what was merely change is a severe nerf to it, and that gf/mf doesnt affect it so it greatly hampers bots, and at the same time provided players an OPTION that they are not REQUIRED to do so because it no longer provides a clear advantage over people who do not does such cases of farming. case in point, wizards were the most efficient class to do vase farming in royal crypts. does that mean everyone MUST roll a wiz to be efficient in diablo3? those who did not back then, are GREATLY put at a disadvantage for not doing so.

- again, IAS was a grossly overpowered stat. it meant that players are PIGEON HOLED into getting it. and it also meant that the gap between ranged classes and melee classes are ever so great because melee classes do not have the luxury to stack IAS as much as ranged classes do. IAS is STILL viable despite the nerfs this very day, and even melee classes still go for them, just not full retard IAS be all end all stat like before.

and no, these are certainly not minor issues in the long run of the game. it may probably be to you because you damn very well play a ranged classes and all the "issues" you mentioned mainly addresses your class.

ps: good job avoiding most, if not all of my questions, and further derailing the whole topic despite you cried on topic derailment wink.gif
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- There are a lot of ways to counter death zerging. Players have already suggested that when you die, you get a debuff that reduces your stats, the more you die, the less effective you are going to become. Guess what Blizz did with that idea? That's right, they dumped it

- IAS overpowered? Who made it overpowered? Whose fault is that? The developer? Or the player? yawn.gif Why not buff other stats to make it on par with IAS? Why nerf it? whistling.gif And what did that do? Players flocked to crit damage and crit % instead. Are they gonna nerf that too? brows.gif

- Actually they did remove it. At one time, act 4 pots/vases used to drop nothing. I know cause I was doing act 4 at the time just shortly before and after 1.0.3. Then they readded the loot back.
A lot of the changes were ninja fixes. I can recall a lot of the changes never even made it to the patch notes. whistling.gif

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post Jul 5 2012, 02:56 PM

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long term? skyrim ftw
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QUOTE(wilsonjay @ Jul 5 2012, 02:56 PM)
long term? skyrim ftw
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post Jul 5 2012, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(gaeria84 @ Jul 5 2012, 02:52 PM)
- There are a lot of ways to counter death zerging. Players have already suggested that when you die, you get a debuff that reduces your stats, the more you die, the less effective you are going to become. Guess what Blizz did with that idea? That's right, they dumped it

- IAS overpowered? Who made it overpowered? Whose fault is that? The developer? Or the player?  yawn.gif Why not buff other stats to make it on par with IAS? Why nerf it?  whistling.gif And what did that do? Players flocked to crit damage and crit % instead. Are they gonna nerf that too?  brows.gif

- Actually they did remove it. At one time, act 4 pots/vases used to drop nothing. I know cause I was doing act 4 at the time just shortly before and after 1.0.3. Then they readded the loot back.
A lot of the changes were ninja fixes. I can recall a lot of the changes never even made it to the patch notes.  whistling.gif
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- let me ask you this, if you already die the first time, doesnt that already mean your stats *MAY* not be adequate when you die the first time? if you get stats penalty, doesnt that mean you're almost guaranteed to never defeat said elite until the debuff goes away? if there is a timer, how long would that be? do you not think that players wouldn't be whining/crying about downtime of the game itself (cant even farm with shit stats no thank you) instead?! at least for repair bills, if you're not death zerging anymore, you can eventually farm back whatever you loss, with no down time at all. (inferno too hard? isnt there hell difficulty for you to fall back on? )

i mean, have you EVER thought of WHY they dumped it instead of OMG BLIZZ DUMP IDEAS THEY (or players) SUGGESTED, OMG BLIZZ SO DUMB

- i played post nerf, pre 1.0.3. destructible still drop loot/gold. i cant attest for royal crypts vase farming, because im not a wiz HURRRRRR. but now that they readded back according to you, ninja or not, why are you still harping about it?

- a lot of "rumors" and speculations may or may not be true. however no one seem to have solid numbers/proof unless blizz themselves reveal numbers transparently. granted, they probably have their reasons, regardless if its wrong/or not for not being totally transparent. however whatever baseless accusations on ninja nerfs/buffs and RNG superstitions are in the end, not facts.

really though, if there's anyone pulling "facts" outta ass right now, all "facts" seem to be pointing closer to you and further away from bashiok at this point.
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all this makes me think if i should buy d3... right now i play d2 once in a while. wish i still have my perm valk, sloops, imps, gg trap claws etc... qq
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blizzy is like scamming, take money 1st then just say oh my god i am so sorry for the shit you get
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yes yes but i still don't see what all this has to do with end game? Really, i think a lot of people bought into the hype machine and had unrealistic expectations of D3.

Seriously, what is the expectation at end game? I've already spent more than a 100 hours (most of it enjoying the game) and hence have already gotten my money's worth. Do you really expect your 60USD to last you forever? Finish with D3, play something else. I really want to get back to collecting costumes on lollipop chainsaw which i have been neglecting. I mean that's me, but what do all the complainers expect from end game?

Also, fans should not be game designers. American Idol is an example of what happens when you let the fans choose.
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QUOTE(alphaz @ Jul 5 2012, 03:16 PM)
all this makes me think if i should buy d3... right now i play d2 once in a while. wish i still have my perm valk, sloops, imps, gg trap claws etc... qq
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7 pages of d3 is shit, please save your 60 usd.


Added on July 5, 2012, 3:26 pm
QUOTE(Kidicarus @ Jul 5 2012, 03:24 PM)
yes yes but i still don't see what all this has to do with end game? Really, i think a lot of people bought into the hype machine and had unrealistic expectations of D3. 

Seriously, what is the expectation at end game? I've already spent more than a 100 hours (most of it enjoying the game) and hence have already gotten my money's worth.  Do you really expect your 60USD to last you forever? Finish with D3, play something else.  I really want to get back to collecting costumes on lollipop chainsaw which i have been neglecting.  I mean that's me, but what do all the complainers expect from end game?

Also, fans should not be game designers.  American Idol is an example of what happens when you let the fans choose.
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unfortunately blizzard TRIED to cater to these expectations and ultimately brought upon their own impending demise sad.gif

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jul 5 2012, 03:25 PM)
7 pages of d3 is shit, please save your 60 usd.


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unfortunately blizzard TRIED to cater to these expectations and ultimately brought upon their own impending demise sad.gif
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The funny thing is, I sold some of my gg d2 items so i can use the cash to buy d3. lol
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QUOTE(alphaz @ Jul 5 2012, 03:33 PM)
The funny thing is, I sold some of my gg d2 items so i can use the cash to buy d3. lol
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buy d2 battlechest or something then. make multiple bots/accounts. since d2 = win while d3 = shit.
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QUOTE(Kidicarus @ Jul 5 2012, 03:24 PM)
Really, i think a lot of people bought into the hype machine and had unrealistic expectations of D3. 

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They expect.... GLOOOOORIOUS things.

I know that doesn't say very much, but I don't know what they're expecting either.

At least I'd like to see legendaries being so legendary they break the game. Otherwise, why are they 'legendaries'?

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QUOTE(gaeria84 @ Jul 5 2012, 02:52 PM)
- There are a lot of ways to counter death zerging. Players have already suggested that when you die, you get a debuff that reduces your stats, the more you die, the less effective you are going to become. Guess what Blizz did with that idea? That's right, they dumped it

- IAS overpowered? Who made it overpowered? Whose fault is that? The developer? Or the player?  yawn.gif Why not buff other stats to make it on par with IAS? Why nerf it?  whistling.gif And what did that do? Players flocked to crit damage and crit % instead. Are they gonna nerf that too?  brows.gif

- Actually they did remove it. At one time, act 4 pots/vases used to drop nothing. I know cause I was doing act 4 at the time just shortly before and after 1.0.3. Then they readded the loot back.
A lot of the changes were ninja fixes. I can recall a lot of the changes never even made it to the patch notes.  whistling.gif
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- so you want to waste 5-15 minutes of your time idling in game?

- buffing other stat means letting the player to put the game in the shelf faster

- no, the vases/pots/barrels still contains gold drops. i know it becuz i break *everything* that is destructible in game
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QUOTE(Kidicarus @ Jul 5 2012, 04:24 PM)
Really, i think a lot of people bought into the hype machine and had unrealistic expectations of D3. 
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I expect Diablo 3.

Not Diablo : WoW Edition.

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