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 Blizzard admits the lack of long term endgame, Prepare for a depressing read

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post Jul 5 2012, 09:46 AM

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Up the ilvl63 item stats, not some crappy shit. and expansion as free DLC! more mobs, more bosses, more elites, more loots! remove 60 cap.

and let people smash more vases and switch MF gears.
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post Jul 5 2012, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(SpikeTwo @ Jul 5 2012, 09:46 AM)
Up the ilvl63 item stats, not some crappy shit. and expansion as free DLC! more mobs, more bosses, more elites, more loots! remove 60 cap.

and let people smash more vases and switch MF gears.
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post Jul 5 2012, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 5 2012, 09:40 AM)
Hundreds of thousands? If you heard it from Bashiok, you just got trolled. He's pulling facts and figures out of his ass again. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(gaeria84 @ Jul 5 2012, 09:50 AM)
Hundreds of thousands? If you heard it from Bashiok, you just got trolled. He's pulling facts and figures out of his ass again.  rclxms.gif
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If you read, I use the "price" benchmark @ AH to determine the demand.
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post Jul 5 2012, 09:53 AM

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1) adjust LEGENG'DARY Stats according to the player level during drop, i.e. low level gets low level legend stats and vice versa, meaning legendary has no fix level requirement, it can be of same level to the character that discover it

2) i like the "Tower Defense" suggestion..i 2nd it strongly

3) More easter eggs level/items/cutscene

4) where's the character profile at battlenet page that blizzy say gonna put up, at least it can give those players to browse other player setup/achievements

5) more custom chat option, personal/private/clan/guild/country channel option

6) more "Aesthetic Features" like to those Dye/Wing in game

7) Bring back gamble function (after all its a gold sink mechanism what)

8) Remove those unpopular affixes and replace with new type or D2 like affixes

9) Bigger Pots, intro +stat pots, +resist pots, +speed pots & other similar buff from consumption

10) time to time special event with special rewards (limited time only, add to achievement)

11) remove neph valor <-- jangan marah aaa..my personal view

12) more refine search function in AH
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post Jul 5 2012, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(gaeria84 @ Jul 5 2012, 09:50 AM)
Hundreds of thousands? If you heard it from Bashiok, you just got trolled. He's pulling facts and figures out of his ass again.  rclxms.gif
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where is your statistics of less than 100k players online concurrently came from? do they have direct access to blizz servers to measure players online?
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QUOTE(HaRuaN.X @ Jul 5 2012, 09:53 AM)
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Why remove NV???

I just completed Inferno last night; after like 400 hours of gameplay (and AFK)... ok, i m a slow leveler... while "end game" has room for improvement, i think Bliz is already doing a good job on this game. (Dont hate me/Bliz) This game is just 2 months old. D2 took years (even after expansion) to be really cool too. Bliz recognized some unexpected result and are rectifying it with 1.1 on the Legendary.

For me, in my recent memory, no other game that can make me play for that long... i made some real money from the game too. so, i have no complain.
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post Jul 5 2012, 10:36 AM

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main problem is , im dont even have THE STATIFIED FEEL since normal:


like i brought a iphone 99cent game length

suck rare suck legendary suck side quest

suck diablo with boobs

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post Jul 5 2012, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jul 5 2012, 10:15 AM)
where is your statistics of less than 100k players online concurrently came from? do they have direct access to blizz servers to measure players online?
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While this is a sample size, I think this is a good reflection of the current downward trend thats going on in the D3 playerbase.

Bashiok? Forever a joke and a troll, since WoW days yawn.gif

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QUOTE(gaeria84 @ Jul 5 2012, 10:45 AM)
While this is a sample size, I think this is a good reflection of the current downward trend thats going on in the D3 playerbase.
Bashiok? Forever a joke and a troll, since WoW days  yawn.gif
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my question still stands:
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where is your statistics of less than 100k players online concurrently came from? do they have direct access to blizz servers to measure players online?



Added on July 5, 2012, 10:49 am
QUOTE(takkicom @ Jul 5 2012, 10:36 AM)
main problem is , im dont even have THE STATIFIED FEEL since normal:
like i brought a iphone 99cent game length

suck rare suck legendary suck side quest

suck diablo with boobs
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go sell loots, earn usd60 from RMAH, get d3 refunded fully, quit game. done settle, no one need to be unhappy.

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post Jul 5 2012, 10:55 AM

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my question still stands:


Added on July 5, 2012, 10:49 am

go sell loots, earn usd60 from RMAH, get d3 refunded fully, quit game. done settle, no one need to be unhappy.
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the equipment i equip doesnt even worth more than 2m

200 hour NONE good rare like bad luck brian
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post Jul 5 2012, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jul 5 2012, 10:47 AM)
my question still stands:


Added on July 5, 2012, 10:49 am

go sell loots, earn usd60 from RMAH, get d3 refunded fully, quit game. done settle, no one need to be unhappy.
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The same can really be said about Bashiok just saying 'hundreds and hundreds of thousands' as is, without the proof to show for it.

QUOTE(Bashiok)
"People think that was the first HC Inferno clear? Weird. Webcams r 2 legit 2 quit. hay HAY"

QUOTE(Bashiok a few days later)
My apologies Kripp and Krippi, looks like you were 1st HC Inferno clear. (my spreadsheet deciphering isn't what it used to be) Congrats!


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post Jul 5 2012, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(takkicom @ Jul 5 2012, 10:55 AM)
the equipment i equip doesnt even worth more than 2m

200 hour NONE good rare like bad luck brian
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you can opt to play only the AH if d3 is sooooooooooooooo bad luck brian to you smile.gif
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QUOTE(gaeria84 @ Jul 5 2012, 10:45 AM)
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While this is a sample size, I think this is a good reflection of the current downward trend thats going on in the D3 playerbase.

Bashiok? Forever a joke and a troll, since WoW days  yawn.gif
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Trend wise, logical. More and more people can no longer online 18 hours a day for D3. But the base is still big. You graph is from xfire. In July D3 still has 40k hours:

http://beta.xfire.com/games/d3

From the same source, WOW just have 45k hours in July:

http://beta.xfire.com/games/wow

Note: these numbers are only for user that join xfire. So, as you can see, the number is quite close, my thinking is, the limit is on number of user that uses xfire.

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post Jul 5 2012, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(gaeria84 @ Jul 5 2012, 10:55 AM)
The same can really be said about Bashiok just saying 'hundreds and hundreds of thousands' as is, without the proof to show for it.

QUOTE(Bashiok)
"People think that was the first HC Inferno clear? Weird. Webcams r 2 legit 2 quit. hay HAY"


QUOTE(Bashiok a few days later)
My apologies Kripp and Krippi, looks like you were 1st HC Inferno clear. (my spreadsheet deciphering isn't what it used to be) Congrats!

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he is a CM, you (or justd3.com) aren't.

who do you think people will believe more?

also, do try to add up the players from ALL quests from ALL difficulties, see if your "14k" gets exceeded or not. then think if public games are already exceeding, what about players (like me) who NEVER plays public game? (i entered once to get the 10pt achievement laugh.gif )
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post Jul 5 2012, 11:02 AM

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they make it short so they can keep selling expansion set
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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Jul 5 2012, 10:58 AM)
Trend wise, logical. More and more people can no longer online 18 hours a day for D3. But the base is still big. You graph is from xfire. In July D3 still has 40k user:

http://beta.xfire.com/games/d3

From the same source, WOW just have 45k users in July:

http://beta.xfire.com/games/wow

Note: these numbers are only for user that join xfire. So, as you can see, the number is quite close, my thinking is, the limit is on number of user that uses xfire.
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are you sure its from xfire? (from link image its from justd3.com, or maybe they took/stolen it from xfire, who knows)

EITHERWAY. if it is from xfire, i do not have an xfire account. does that mean i do not play d3?

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the over-exaggeration in this thread jesus.
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post Jul 5 2012, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Jul 5 2012, 10:58 AM)
Trend wise, logical. More and more people can no longer online 18 hours a day for D3. But the base is still big. You graph is from xfire. In July D3 still has 40k user:

http://beta.xfire.com/games/d3

From the same source, WOW just have 45k users in July:

http://beta.xfire.com/games/wow

Note: these numbers are only for user that join xfire. So, as you can see, the number is quite close, my thinking is, the limit is on number of user that uses xfire.
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The numbers on xfire don't reflect the actual playerbase number, rather it represents the downward trend in the number of players. From May to Jun, the numbers dropped from 140000 to 50000, that's roughly a 60% drop in just one month.
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QUOTE(gaeria84 @ Jul 5 2012, 11:03 AM)
The numbers on xfire don't reflect the actual playerbase number, rather it represents the downward trend in the number of players. From May to Jun, the numbers dropped from 140000 to 50000, that's roughly a 60% drop in just one month.
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so can you agree that if d3 sold 1mil players. dropping 60% is still 400k. and bashiok's statement of hundred(s) of thousands can still mean 100k and it will still be legit/valid?
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QUOTE(gaeria84 @ Jul 5 2012, 11:03 AM)
The numbers on xfire don't reflect the actual playerbase number, rather it represents the downward trend in the number of players. From May to Jun, the numbers dropped from 140000 to 50000, that's roughly a 60% drop in just one month.
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laugh.gif my mistake. corrected my post. actually i agree that the trends is moving downwards. should bliz worry about it? may be not much. all those users already paid for the game anyway. u stop playing? so long! brows.gif u still wanna play? hey, we got new patch coming... thumbup.gif





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