it's just a matter of how easy to dispose the unit only. Will you stay for 20 to 30 yrs or even longer? i bet most ppl will not.

Ya. Agree. It's juz the matter of disposal. Am Sure after would want to move after 20-30 years staying there at most. It'ss be hard to dispose of a leashold at 60 years. And worst of all at a premium price. This is a worry we have to deal with and not our next generation. Yes I agree we can extend the lease and all. But of Wotp is next door and gives the same feature at the same price. Why would I wanna trouble myself to buy a leasehold?
But i'm not against leasehold. If the leasehold property has more benefit than a freehold. I would still choose a leashold. 99 years is long. But in the case of lumiere and Wotp. I dun see a reason to buy lumiere unless the concept launched is really breath taking.

I agree that generally, FH properties are preferred as their values are usually more stable. However, the government can still take back FH land under the Land Acquisition Act, to be developed for public purposes, such as the MRT project or economic developments. Some FH land can still carry some restrictions as they are converted from leasehold...need to read the documents carefully.

Sometimes, the location, pricing and the quality and brand of developers carries more weight among property investors than land tenure...and even for some people the feng shui of the overall site is the top priority.

I believe at least half of developments launched in the KV are leasehold properties, and some are selling like hot cakes.

Out of 6 acres only use 2 acres for residential.....can't wait to see.

they pergi copy verdi? huhuhu...

but OCR punya condo concept...hmmm...
RESIDENCE 8 and BOULEVARD RESIDENCE concept & design look so so only.

hope this time ada surprise lar...

This post has been edited by HELLO HELLO: Dec 20 2013, 03:59 PM

Is property a good hedge against inflation?
One of the reasons why I bought WOTP is to hedge against inflation. Looking at the various hikes in prices from sugar to tolls and the falling RM, I expect inflation rate to be high in the coming years. This will gradually erodes the value of money over the coming years. Don't forget the GST is also coming soon.
However, not all people agree that property is a good hedge.
Would you like to share your view?

Buy bitcoin! Lol..

-Bought Wotp for concept, design and branding.

-Location just average for now but believe will have tremendous improvement when mrt ready.

-Plan to rent it out after 1-2 years VP. MRT should be almost ready. Before that should be my weekend escape home.

This post has been edited by HELLO HELLO: Dec 23 2013, 11:30 PM

With the location, seem like not easy to rent out ..

I think most of the buyers are aim for own stay.

This post has been edited by WilberSc: Dec 25 2013, 08:39 PM

So cham ar.... Got Citibank nearby WOR. Not many places got ooh... Does it show a good sign?. See how...after mrt ready..got 5-6% happy Liao.

I saw some angmo (not middle east 1) having lunch at lake valley town park (should be those expat mrt consultant) and some australian angmo at c180 near maybank there.

Got 1 time saw old couple angmo drive a brand new Volkswagen touareg near Wotp. came out from the car look around macam doing some survey and took out some equipment at their car back.

My c180 agent told me they rented out a office lot at c180 to a Australia company.

By the way, u got the biggest wotp 2095sf unit among lowyat forumer. many of us just 916sf n a few 1685sf. Congrats!

Anyone bought 2400sf n above?

This post has been edited by HELLO HELLO: Dec 26 2013, 11:06 PM

In my opinion, renting out WOTP units is not difficult as it meets most of the things renters look for..
1. Location - most important, close to city, transportation, easy access, shopping, food and entertaiment
2. Well designed floor plan - open floor plan with open space encompassing the kitchen, family room, and dining room
3. Available parking - incredibly important..designated covered car park
4. Large windows/natural light - no one wants to live in a cave...natual light will make the property look warmer and inviting
5. Outdoor space - lots of green and trees
6. Low crime rate in the neighbourhood

The big question here is whether you are able to get a rental yield of 5-6%? If you can get that, can it be considered good?
No idea what is the crime rate in BTHO....anyone know the figure?

Should be OK gua...after 3 years + MRT ready + high end looking macam ameraa n five stones + ocr lumiere and hapseng luxury condos around. Later Become a mini mk...lol. If cannot... Worse come to worse continue own stay lor... With nice environment. No harm also...

For crime rate.... Hmmm no idea. This area so far looks ok...compare to nearby places.

This post has been edited by HELLO HELLO: Dec 26 2013, 11:31 PM

Driving around, the place looks safe...not like some Tamans where every corner you take you will see a sign hanging " Beware of snatch theives"

Well. In 3-5 years. Btho may become a place where many daigo prefer to live seeing as many semid and detached units. Wotp located near beringin avenue and lumiere is a good thing also. But still the higher units facing south can see balakong light industrial. So I personally think units facing north is better.

But I dun see a 5-6% rental yield as our entry cost is so high already. I dun think ppl would pay that much for cheras selatan. Even mk dun have that many with that yield.

But if if uda land successfully make the commercial hub a prominent one. We can expext great appreciation and yield.

Also it would be a great plus if the van provided to go to the mrt station can also drop by to jusco cheras selatan, lake avenue and aeon big. I think if the van brings us to amenities nearby, it would increase the property value and demands. Hopefully the fee charged is not too high

This post has been edited by Little War: Dec 27 2013, 01:45 AM

Kajang Prima near to semenyih has HSBC which not many places have HSBC branches.. but the area doesnt looks happening to me..

C180 have budget hotels.. got angmo no surprise..

There is a VW showroom and workshop.. maybe angmo just drive in after servicing his car.. lol..

Can see some of them riding motorbike without helmet, reminds me of the those ppl riding bike in the village..

The area is not exclusive, unlike Damansara or MK.. when there are mixture of population around, just have to be more cautious..

Near wotp got 3 banks not many places have oo.. Citibank, HSBC and OCBC.

Ic... Also Australia school near mines?
When balakong MRT ready... C180 n shops along jalan kasturi will be more happening.

+ Many MRT1 stations located at cheras area. Not yet include MRT2. If both line ready. Sibeh Cantik sui sui Liao. The whole cheras area pretty much connected to all prime areas.

Can consider Good sign also? With VW, toyota and now new hapseng Mercedes showroom and workshop also here..

When ioi city mall ready. Cheras south people have another happening place to go for which not far away. Also Go east ada pavilion 2. Go north ada cheras sentral as mrt interchange, IKEA cochrane N sunway velocity. Go South we also got up and coming place macam kajang, semenyih.... Before mrt2 ready..now go putrajaya also toll free with highway road. Not bad ler.

This post has been edited by HELLO HELLO: Dec 27 2013, 07:02 AM

Actually Kajang prima is slowly picking up. It's not
Happening because it's so close to semenyih while
Kajang still has many potential. But if u look at the price there. It's picking up. The type of shops opening is also increasing. Such as shabu shabu, Japanese cuisine, and few others. But will still take time for it to mature as connectivity not good. Only
Access is jalana semenyih who is always jam

Btw. There is another rare bank. UOB bank which is not that far away. Considering its rarity. It's juz in desa Cahaya. If natur has an access road coming from this place in future. Wotp to UOB will be less than 5 min.

From what I see and heard so far, the area in Cheras South is stable with steady growth...so patience is key...is definitely a nice neighbourhood to stay.

This area mainly attract local at this moment la... U wan see high class Ang mo, Mk, Sri hartamas, ampang hilir n klcc area still the top choice... 2nd choice will be dutamas, desa park city, damansara/damansara perdana area....

Bandar tun Hussein onn, still long way to go

Why must we treat Ang Mohs as a higher class human being...have to be white...anything else is a compromise...always think white first rather then asian, even their farts smell better.

We better wake up...now is a different world...the western economies has now just realise that they need the Chinese consumers to power their growth in the next decade. The Chinese are buying properties all over the world, including in Malaysia, and mostly in cash!
The Ang Mohs are doing everything possible to win the wallet of today Chinese consumers, including the Koreans and Japanese. Maybe we should target these groups of tenants.