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kurogane
post Jun 16 2012, 09:15 AM

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QUOTE(peacelover1990 @ Jun 16 2012, 12:59 AM)
hurm, why screw?
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Googled around and checked this forum, seems the Huawei HG850a cannot be accessed via local IP at all. So I will have to buy a VLAN-tagging capable device....

Currently trying to get a Mikrotik switch (RB250A). I will try it out and see if it works. Will update if I successfully use a custom router setup.
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post Jun 16 2012, 12:09 PM

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Good news!

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It is possible to use custom routers for Maxis FTTH setups with HG850a! Managed to get it working woohoo!
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post Jun 16 2012, 02:01 PM

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Nice! Of course it's possible...all you need is a router that you can configure VLAN tagging and p-bit marking....

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kurogane
post Jun 16 2012, 04:06 PM

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Ok, this is how I use my WRT54GL router with Maxis FTTH if you have Huawei HG850a GPON device. I assume it's mainly for landed properties.

Basically I followed all the instructions in this guide by rizanvp: http://unifi.athena.my/mikrotik_rb250gs.php

The difference is on the VLAN tagging, which is done as below:

user posted image
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Maxis has a lot VLAN's used, but the main ones should be:

621 Home Fiber Internet
822 VOIP
823 IPTV (apparently)

Possible to define more than those listed, but not sure how to go about it for now.

Following that, the port assignment. This assumes that;
Port 1 = Huawei HG850a
Port 2 = Your router
Port 3 = VOIP device
Port 4 = IPTV.

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After setting that, connect your own custom router as usual and enjoy biggrin.gif

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Gotta love those delicious bandwidth graphs in Tomato!

TODO: Find out how to use VoIP in this setup. Unfortunately, my router is not a SIP device, but I assume if you have a SIP-enabled device, you can tag VLAN 621 and 822 on the same port to allow SIP connection.

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post Jun 16 2012, 04:24 PM

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Thanks for the info, my maxis home fibre will come install at 4 jully after install i also will try using custom router
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post Jun 16 2012, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(kurogane @ Jun 16 2012, 04:06 PM)
Ok, this is how I use my WRT54GL router with Maxis FTTH if you have  Huawei HG850a GPON device. I assume it's mainly for landed properties.

Basically I followed all the instructions in this guide by rizanvp: http://unifi.athena.my/mikrotik_rb250gs.php

The difference is on the VLAN tagging, which is done as below:

user posted image
(click for larger version)

Maxis has a lot VLAN's used, but the main ones should be:

621 Home Fiber Internet
822 VOIP
823 IPTV (apparently)

Possible to define more than those listed, but not sure how to go about it for now.

Following that, the port assignment. This assumes that;
Port 1 = Huawei HG850a
Port 2 = Your router
Port 3 = VOIP device
Port 4 = IPTV.

user posted image
(click for larger version)

After setting that, connect your own custom router as usual and enjoy biggrin.gif

user posted image

Gotta love those delicious bandwidth graphs in Tomato!

TODO: Find out how to use VoIP in this setup. Unfortunately, my router is not a SIP device, but I assume if you have a SIP-enabled device, you can tag VLAN 621 and 822 on the same port to allow SIP connection.
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Congrats! rclxms.gif
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post Jun 18 2012, 03:43 PM

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Nice guide...!!!


Added on June 18, 2012, 7:06 pmGuys... I'm using a ZTE VDSL modem (ZXDSL 931). Any idea how to configure this modem?

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gogetter83
post Jun 18 2012, 09:05 PM

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actually...regardless of modem or ONT, the basic principal is that your router is transmitting WAN traffic tagged with the correct vlans and p-bit, so kurogane's method will work regardless whether the setup used VDSL modem or fiber ONT as access.
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post Jun 18 2012, 10:40 PM

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anyone have guide for HG850A? this guide does not apply to that modem. cant seem to get in the modem configuration page even with static IP. and i cant find the manual book.
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post Jun 18 2012, 11:30 PM

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Great topic, that's why u r our god!
kurogane
post Jun 19 2012, 07:23 AM

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QUOTE(Johannlo @ Jun 18 2012, 10:40 PM)
anyone have guide for HG850A? this guide does not apply to that modem. cant seem to get in the modem configuration page even with static IP. and i cant find the manual book.
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Check my post for the guide to HG850a. You will need a VLAN-tagging capable switch/router.
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post Jun 19 2012, 03:07 PM

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QUOTE(kurogane @ Jun 19 2012, 07:23 AM)
Check my post for the guide to HG850a. You will need a VLAN-tagging capable switch/router.
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the link?
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post Jun 19 2012, 05:54 PM

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Page 2 of this thread. You may need some glasses.
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post Jun 19 2012, 07:44 PM

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QUOTE(kurogane @ Jun 14 2012, 07:10 PM)
Hmmm... okay. I will try anyways sad.gif

Also for OP, regarding the VOIP SIP settings, here's a dump of the output from telnet from my default config. Not sure if this will help or not.

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Additionally, the VLAN tagging list

CODE

:eth vlan list
Vid      Name
---      ----
1        default
2        dummy
18       HotSpot
621      HSI_vlan
721      SME_vlan
821      MGMT_vlan
822      VoIP_vlan
823      VOD+BTV_vlan


CODE

:eth bridge vlan iflist
Vid      Name            Bridge interfaces (* = untagged)
---      ----            --------------------------------
1        default         OBC*, ethport1*, ethport2*, ethport3*, ethport4*, virt*, WLAN*
2        dummy           Eth_WAN*
18       HotSpot         Eth_WAN
621      HSI_vlan        OBC, Eth_WAN
721      SME_vlan        OBC, Eth_WAN
821      MGMT_vlan       OBC, Eth_WAN
822      VoIP_vlan       OBC, Eth_WAN
823      VOD+BTV_vlan    OBC, Eth_WAN


You can grep the info by telnetting to your thomson using the Administrator id.
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I believe this is the guide? and if so, wow. i don't understand a thing. (big time network noob here) well, i just want an additional router to utilize the 300N network infrastructure in my house. so yeah. i'm not planning to migrate anything (VoIP, PPPoE etc.) to my new router. And is VLAN capable router compulsory if i were to connect my router to the thomson and then relay the signals to my wireless device?

*i'm doing alot of bluray video streaming across devices, wireless file transfers, remote desktop and so on. that's why 300N is a must for me but this thomson shit is giving me trouble. smile.gif
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post Jun 20 2012, 04:09 PM

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Here. Is it that hard to go thru ONE page of replies?

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Added on June 20, 2012, 4:14 pm
QUOTE(Johannlo @ Jun 19 2012, 07:44 PM)
I believe this is the guide? and if so, wow. i don't understand a thing. (big time network noob here) well, i just want an additional router to utilize the 300N network infrastructure in my house. so yeah. i'm not planning to migrate anything (VoIP, PPPoE etc.)  to my new router. And is VLAN capable router compulsory if i were to connect my router to the thomson and then relay the signals to my wireless device?

*i'm doing alot of bluray video streaming across devices, wireless file transfers, remote desktop and so on. that's why 300N is a must for me but this thomson shit is giving me trouble.  smile.gif
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Actually now that I reread your post, doesn't sound like my guide is what you want.

If you want to use your 300N wireless, set that router to DHCP. Then plug your router to the Thomson. this should turn it in to a wireless AP. Then configure your 300N wireless router settings.

Configure the wireless on the Thomson to disable it of you don't plan on having so many WiFi network at home as well.

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post Jun 20 2012, 07:30 PM

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QUOTE(kurogane @ Jun 20 2012, 04:09 PM)
Here. Is it that hard to go thru ONE page of replies?

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Added on June 20, 2012, 4:14 pm

Actually now that I reread your post, doesn't sound like my guide is what you want.

If you want to use your 300N wireless, set that router to DHCP. Then plug your router to the Thomson. this should turn it in to a wireless AP. Then configure your 300N wireless router settings.

Configure the wireless on the Thomson to disable it of you don't plan on having so many WiFi network at home as well.
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okay. So basically connect both router through any LAN port right? or from WAN port of my custom router to the LAN port of the thomson?
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post Jun 20 2012, 07:52 PM

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QUOTE(Johannlo @ Jun 20 2012, 08:30 PM)
okay. So basically connect both router through any LAN port right? or from WAN port of my custom router to the LAN port of the thomson?
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Correct WAN port of your custom router to the LAN port of the thomson. Your custom router should get a DHCP IP and provide internet connectivity provided your custom router is setup as such and it self being a wireless AP.
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post Jun 20 2012, 07:55 PM

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I hope you guys will find out very soon on how to connect phone to TM modem without Thomson router. All these bad feedbacks about Thomson router make me nervous. I need the phone and I don't want to have to use 2 routers :S

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kurogane
post Jun 20 2012, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(Swordylove @ Jun 20 2012, 07:55 PM)
I hope you guys will find out very soon on how to connect phone to TM modem without Thomson router. All these bad feedbacks about Thomson router make me nervous. I need the phone and I don't want to have to use 2 routers :S
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I don't think you can do it with the Huawei HG850a since there is no admin access to it.
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post Jun 21 2012, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(kurogane @ Jun 20 2012, 11:11 PM)
I don't think you can do it with the Huawei HG850a since there is no admin access to it.
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Arrgghhh that's too bad! vmad.gif
Are any other suitable router that have phone ports like Thomson then?

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