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CyberSetan
post Feb 26 2013, 11:48 PM

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QUOTE(SticH @ Feb 26 2013, 04:52 PM)
Hey guys, any must-buy books for clinical posting?
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for which clinical posting?
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QUOTE(CyberSetan @ Feb 26 2013, 11:48 PM)
for which clinical posting?
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All. Would like to take this chance to grab all the books cause of the book vouchers thing smile.gif I prefer English author rather than Indian author though, had terrible experience with Indian author. And btw, is there any tendon hammer other than the one with a disc on top of a plastic stick (looks cheap and expensive rm4x) ? And where can I buy it?
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post Feb 27 2013, 12:28 AM

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QUOTE(SticH @ Feb 27 2013, 12:20 AM)
All. Would like to take this chance to grab all the books cause of the book vouchers thing  smile.gif  I prefer English author rather than Indian author though, had terrible experience with Indian author. And btw, is there any tendon hammer other than the one with a disc on top of a plastic stick (looks cheap and expensive rm4x) ? And where can I buy it?
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which Indian authored book did you have had a terrible experience with?

For English authored books - the generally used ones are:

-Hutchinson clinical methods
-Macleod's Clinical Examination

However... these books doesn't really go deep into each clinical subject's examination methods.

QUOTE(SticH @ Feb 27 2013, 12:20 AM)
And btw, is there any tendon hammer other than the one with a disc on top of a plastic stick (looks cheap and expensive rm4x) ? And where can I buy it?
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I like that type of tendon hammer. The short metal one doesn't give enough 'kick' for eliciting tendon reflexes.

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QUOTE(CyberSetan @ Feb 27 2013, 12:28 AM)
which Indian authored book did you have had a terrible experience with?

For English authored books - the generally used ones are:

-Hutchinson clinical methods
-Macleod's Clinical Examination

However... these books doesn't really go deep into each clinical subject's examination methods.
Chaurahsia (good book but you'll need to have your own cadaver to make full use of it), inderber singh, microbiology books and so on.. IMHO they are more to memorizing facts and not telling you things behind that/ maybe I just prefer how the 'mericans study.

I had macleod, what I'm looking for is eg orthopedics, pediatrics etc books or are they not necessary?

As for the tendon hammer, well what I don't like is the price, pure rip off doh.gif
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QUOTE(SticH @ Feb 27 2013, 12:48 AM)
Chaurahsia (good book but you'll need to have your own cadaver to make full use of it), inderber singh, microbiology books and so on.. IMHO they are more to memorizing facts and not telling you things behind that/ maybe I just prefer how the 'mericans study.
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Indeed they are. Those books I believe are meant to be less complicated designed for undergraduates. My professors told me these books are enough. If I wanted to study more and indepth, they suggested me to read postgraduate books instead, however they don't recommend me doing so during my undergraduate studies as I have other subjects to read.




QUOTE(SticH @ Feb 27 2013, 12:48 AM)
I had macleod, what I'm looking for is eg orthopedics, pediatrics etc books or are they not necessary?
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They are necessary.... however, before I suggest you any books, are your lecturers from India?



QUOTE(SticH @ Feb 27 2013, 12:48 AM)
As for the tendon hammer, well what I don't like is the price, pure rip off  doh.gif
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You could order it from ebay or Amazon.com - get a good tendon hammer that lasts...

Here is an example: http://www.amazon.com/MDF-Queen-Square-Ham...s=tendon+hammer

It is costly... but if it is a good hammer... why not? Read the customers review.

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Hello there everybody! smile.gif

I am planning to sit for MCAT (most probably) this coming September/October. I am thinking of starting with the preparations now as I don't like to rush through things in a stressful manner.

So here I am, would like to seek advice regarding the preparatory materials for MCAT. I've visited MPH and Borders, and found out that only the Kaplan MCAT Review series is available. The Kaplan MCAT Review separates the tested areas into 5 different books and it'll cost me about rm130++ for each book. Will it be a good idea to get the complete set of 5? Or should I consider other series?

Please kindly suggest me any other reference resources as well. Any practice tests, question bank, be it an online version or soft copy or hard copy.

Thanks in advance! smile.gif
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post Apr 10 2013, 04:11 AM

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Medics, any one working in Singapore or going to be working in Singapore. Would like a private discussion regarding work and future prospects there. If you would be so kind to reply to this or PM me. Would love to hear your 2cents.
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QUOTE(Cristiano-Ronaldo-7 @ Apr 10 2013, 04:11 AM)
Medics, any one working in Singapore or going to be working in Singapore. Would like a private discussion regarding work and future prospects there. If you would be so kind to reply to this or PM me. Would love to hear your 2cents.
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I believe generally future prospects working in Singapore is definitely better than working in Msia.

Hmm .... i suppose your medical degree is among those recognised by Spore Medical Council.

Best wishes .... my dear friend tongue.gif

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Some of my colleagues are aiming for USMLE as well smile.gif
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Hi,

Anyone especially the one that study locally, may I ask if you guys know where to purchase suturing pad and its rough estimation cost?

Maybe you know, Syd G?
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Hi Mr.Docter

I don't know. We still haven't done suturing smile.gif
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post Jun 26 2013, 02:54 PM

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Noted that Russian medical grads from Kurst Medical University are placed in housemanship within 2 to 3 months upon coming back. Not bad.

Curious to know how are such grads compared with our locals. Not much difference from those coming from Ukraine, I believe. Still quite a number from Ukraine yet to be given recognition by gomen despite the pleas by MIC. These unfortunate grads also did not manage to pass the qualifying exams.
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i cannot understand why people want to go to unrecognised medical schools.....there are already >300 recognised ones all over the world.....

and i cannot understand why after knowing they are unrecognised, they still want to go, and then make a big noise after that...

actually i do....there is a very good reason why many cannot pass the qualifying exam.....
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As I have said, the demand for medical places is still very "hot" and parents wanting their children to be doctors is as strong as ever.

Many ppl STILL think that doctors and aspiring doctors make a lot of monies.

When ppl ask what are my relatives doing, I wont say they are in medic coz those who know charge me more for services rendered compared to the norm.
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post Jun 28 2013, 07:14 AM

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QUOTE(cckkpr @ Jun 26 2013, 05:51 PM)
As I have said, the demand for medical places is still very "hot" and parents wanting their children to be doctors is as strong as ever.

Many ppl STILL think that doctors and aspiring doctors make a lot of monies.

When ppl ask what are my relatives doing, I wont say they are in medic coz those who know charge me more for services rendered compared to the norm.
WTH!
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Are you serious?? LOL

Thought this thread is pretty much dead. Wonder how many going into first year medical school in the UK this year.
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post Jun 28 2013, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(podrunner @ Jun 28 2013, 07:14 AM)
Are you serious?? LOL

Thought this thread is pretty much dead. Wonder how many going into first year medical school in the UK this year.
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Hi, welcome back!

Rising costs. Minimize unnecessary costs. Luckily pound softening again. Didn't take advantage when it was abt 4.60.
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still cheaper in uk, even with the softening aud...

there are still people going....but the supply from jpa scholarship has dried up.....but mara still sending....

all mara/jpa scholars were asked to return immediately this graduating year.....so few are staying back....

surplus of 300 graduates, failed to match into f1, but MOH promised all will be placed.....

hint: unless they change the system, the sjt will decide your fate.....weightage given to the sjt results far outweigh your academic medical school performance.....you can score in your finals, but if you bungle your sjt, you are in trouble....
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Just have to keep up with the times and hope for the best.

Relative do some shadowing work under a specialist after the end of academic year noticed quite a number of Malaysian specialists in the various hospitals including surprising number of bumis who have taken up residence over there. Malaysian Boleh.

Those outside the tempurung have a global view.
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QUOTE(limeuu @ Jun 28 2013, 12:47 PM)
still cheaper in uk, even with the softening aud...

there are still people going....but the supply from jpa scholarship has dried up.....but mara still sending....

all mara/jpa scholars were asked to return immediately this graduating year.....so few are staying back....

surplus of 300 graduates, failed to match into f1, but MOH promised all will be placed.....

hint: unless they change the system, the sjt will decide your fate.....weightage given to the sjt results far outweigh your academic medical school performance.....you can score in your finals, but if you bungle your sjt, you are in trouble....
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For FYP and SJT aside, I would have thought one would need to score consistently well over the 5 years, not just finals? Correct me if I am wrong.


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QUOTE(podrunner @ Jun 28 2013, 03:16 PM)
For FYP and SJT aside, I would have thought one would need to score consistently well over the 5 years, not just finals? Correct me if I am wrong.
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the academic ranking is provided by the respective med schools, based on summative results through the clinical years, before the final exams (if there is one, some unis do not in the final year), so the actual final results do not factor at all....i said 'finals' in general to mean academic performance...the academic rank is divided into centums, and assigned points between 34 to 43 points dependent on centum rank (up to 7 points is given for extra degrees, academic publications etc)....and sjt scores between 0 to 50.........you can be in the top centum, 9 points above the bottom centum, but if you score 10 sjt points less, you will be ranked below the worst students....

they will need to address this anomaly next year, the 2nd year the sjt is conducted....the fate of the fresh graduate now hinges on a single test, which can negate 5 years of good work.....

one would think that possibly, those from the lower centums academically, will score poorly in the sjt as well....the statistics proved otherwise....other than the bottom most centum, the curves across the centums are pretty similar....which means it is very possible for significant numbers of upper half students to score significantly less in sjt than a bottom half student....and get penalised....

the bottom line is, you can neglect your studies, be towards the bottom, but just ace your sjt, and you are fine...aids, and guides to the sjt is already appearing....it is going to be more important than academic scores...

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