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mushigen
post Apr 11 2018, 10:02 AM

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Relying mostly on kicking to produce propulsion will tire even the fittest of swimmers. The legs have the biggest muscles in our body which produce lots of lactic acid.
I use 2-beat kicks when doing long distances, else it would be very tiring. Sacrifice some speed.

Water in nose /mouth can be caused by swimming too slowly, where there is no trough (bowl shaped water level) beside the head.
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post Apr 11 2018, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(unitron @ Apr 3 2018, 02:15 PM)
Anyone found any effective and lasting anti-fog methods for goggles ?

So far, spit i think is unhygienic, baby shampoo i think not good long term getting into the eyes.
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Get anti-fog solution like this. You may have to apply before every swim. Much better than using saliva, shampoo or toothpaste.
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post Apr 11 2018, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(mushigen @ Apr 11 2018, 09:54 AM)
I faced this issue with my new TYR goggles.
First, you can try the fit using "vacuum test". Google this. If both sides stick well when tested independently, you may have same problem with me.

Turned out that the distance between the two sides was too wide,  even after using the smallest bridge. Solution: i used cable tie to connect the goggles and reduced the distance.

When shopping for new goggles, always do the vacuum test. Walk away if the shop does not allow testing.
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Thanks for your update. Will try this though i got a new goggles prior to your post from Speedo and seems to stop this issue for me.
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post Apr 11 2018, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(mushigen @ Apr 11 2018, 10:08 AM)
Get anti-fog solution like this. You may have to apply before every swim. Much better than using saliva, shampoo or toothpaste.
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Thanks, where to buy ? Online order ?
I see some made-in-china ones, but don't dare to try, later eyes got problem, finish.
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QUOTE(unitron @ Apr 11 2018, 03:27 PM)
Thanks, where to buy ? Online order ?
I see some made-in-china ones, but don't dare to try, later eyes got problem, finish.
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Try those sports shops selling swim wear and goggles.
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Apr 11 2018, 10:02 AM)
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Relying mostly on kicking to produce propulsion will tire even the fittest of swimmers. The legs have the biggest muscles in our body which produce lots of lactic acid.
I use 2-beat kicks when doing long distances, else it would be very tiring. Sacrifice some speed.

Water in nose /mouth can be caused by swimming too slowly,  where there is no trough (bowl shaped water level) beside the head.
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I do agree about your kicking opinion, most of the people are thinking about kick harder will produce more propulsion. Actually that is not correct at all, for me the purpose of kicking is helping body rotate.

Same like you, I'm using 2 beat kick too. biggrin.gif
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post Apr 16 2018, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(mushigen @ Apr 11 2018, 10:02 AM)
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Relying mostly on kicking to produce propulsion will tire even the fittest of swimmers. The legs have the biggest muscles in our body which produce lots of lactic acid.
I use 2-beat kicks when doing long distances, else it would be very tiring. Sacrifice some speed.

Water in nose /mouth can be caused by swimming too slowly,  where there is no trough (bowl shaped water level) beside the head.
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You brought up some good points, which I'd also noted myself as i practiced more, now focusing on the dynamic balance between the kick and hand pull now. Thanks for the tip, sir.

QUOTE(johny2k @ Apr 4 2018, 09:40 AM)
Actually the best way to find out where is your problem is taking a self videos, It will direct point out what's your problem. smile.gif
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That's a bit too difficult... one, is need to invest a water proof device and 2nd, i always go there swimming by myself in the public pool, bit complicated and inconvenience... but still thanking you for the suggestion & tip as always smile.gif

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ChipZ
post Apr 17 2018, 09:42 PM

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Hi all, I have a 1.9km open water swimming slot to let go at Putrajaya 13th May. More details here:

https://www.malaysiaopenwaterswimming.com/k...mows-challenge/
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post May 29 2018, 06:25 AM

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Hi there..

Does anyone know a place to buy swimwear for men? Looking for swim shirt (is that what they call it lol) and long thighs, good quality brand, KV area..

Thanks!
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post May 31 2018, 11:28 AM

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Hi

anyone here can give a pointer or two for free? or maybe i buy u dinner haha
need someone to teach me how to water tread and also swim properly

or you got any swimming instructor that are cheap to intro?

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QUOTE(1qaz1qaz @ May 31 2018, 11:28 AM)
Hi

anyone here can give a pointer or two for free? or maybe i buy u dinner haha
need someone to teach me how to water tread and also swim properly

or you got any swimming instructor that are cheap to intro?
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How cheap is cheap? What is the market price at Klang Valley for adult coaching now?
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post May 31 2018, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(ChipZ @ May 31 2018, 02:02 PM)
How cheap is cheap? What is the market price at Klang Valley for adult coaching now?
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i have no idea thats why i ask
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QUOTE(Prothero @ May 29 2018, 06:25 AM)
Hi there..

Does anyone know a place to buy swimwear for men? Looking for swim shirt (is that what they call it lol) and long thighs, good quality brand, KV area..

Thanks!
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Go to Decathon Malaysia, it's cheap and not bad to use.

https://www.decathlon.my/

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MasBoleh!
post Jun 28 2018, 11:48 AM

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Help! I need advice.

I have been learning for swimming for more than 6 months.

I know how to swim breaststroke (not very good, docy leg part got problem) and freestyle.

But my coach told me that my body is very stiff and the bottom half of my body is sinking downward. Hence making me keep on like trying to float out and grasping for air.

I am do gym and train karate on weekday and swimming on weekend. Is this the reason why my body is stiff and caused my bottom half to sink downward?

Other than that, I also find that my stamina aka breath is not that good, very fast run out of air...

Need advice. Thank you
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QUOTE(MasBoleh! @ Jun 28 2018, 11:48 AM)
Help! I need advice.

I have been learning for swimming for more than 6 months.

I know how to swim breaststroke (not very good, docy leg part got problem) and freestyle.

But my coach told me that my body is very stiff and the bottom half of my body is sinking downward. Hence making me keep on like trying to float out and grasping for air.

I am do gym and train karate on weekday and swimming on weekend. Is this the reason why my body is stiff and caused my bottom half to sink downward?

Other than that, I also find that my stamina aka breath is not that good, very fast run out of air...

Need advice. Thank you
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Yeah it is always the case the body being stiff when u just starting to learn proper breastroke. It is normal for ur leg to sink, especially if u are an athletic.
Ur bottom half sink is because of your leg muscle, that being said the more muscular you are you sink is higher.

You can further prove this by kicking ur leg away from the pool wall and without doing anything ur leg will sink but upper body remain afloat, and you ask another chubby person to do the same their whole body will float even without any kicking. Another good example is baby, their whole body will just float by itself.

For people who have sinking leg you have to counter it by kicking it from time to time, which is the hardest part in breastroke. Once you master it the rest should be easy.

You run out of breath is mostly because you panic while you are in the water, as time goes you will get use to it. Partly because you are not use to the water pressure when your body is surrounded by water.

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QUOTE(Vincentccw @ Jun 28 2018, 07:21 PM)
Yeah it is always the case the body being stiff when u just starting to learn proper breastroke. It is normal for ur leg to sink, especially if u are an athletic.
Ur bottom half sink is because of your leg muscle, that being said the more muscular you are you sink is higher.

You can further prove this by kicking ur leg away from the pool wall and without doing anything ur leg will sink but upper body remain afloat, and you ask another chubby person to do the same their whole body will float even without any kicking. Another good example is baby, their whole body will just float by itself.

For people who have sinking leg you have to counter it by kicking it from time to time, which is the hardest part in breastroke. Once you master it the rest should be easy.

You run out of breath is mostly because you panic while you are in the water, as time goes you will get use to it. Partly because you are not use to the water pressure when your body is surrounded by water.
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1. How to make my body less stiff?

2. Mind elaborating this part? “For people who have sinking leg, you have to counter it by kicking it from time to time?

3.i see. Because I noticed when I open my mouth to breath, I didn’t actually suck in much air.

Nevertheless, thank you so much !
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QUOTE(MasBoleh! @ Jun 30 2018, 01:58 PM)
1. How to make my body less stiff?

2. Mind elaborating this part? “For people who have sinking leg, you have to counter it by kicking it from time to time?

3.i see. Because I noticed when I open my mouth to breath, I didn’t actually suck in much air.

Nevertheless, thank you so much !
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1. This is more about getting used to and relaxing your body in the water. It is mostly about the techniques as time goes you will get the hang of it.

2. Yes you will have to kick your leg from time to time to keep you floating. What I normally do is is whenever I just wanted to stay afloat and on the water and not swimming, my leg would eventually sinks and whole body will be in a slanted position, to avoid this i will kick my legs so that my body returns to horizontal position, and keep repeating it. If you are swimming from one end to another you have to kick your leg anyway.

3. That have to do with timing yourself, if you timed yourself to have 0.5s to catch breath then make sure you suck in as much air as possible and exhale slowly in the water, when you ran out then repeat the same. One advice is do not hold your breath while you are in the water. The extra CO2 will drain your body and also have less time to breath in. The breathing out phase is always in the water and not outside. Let's say you allocate yourself 0.5sec to breath in, but if you are holding your breath and only breath in and out while your face is outside the water within 0.5 sec then is even harder for you to catch more air into your lungs.

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QUOTE(Vincentccw @ Jul 1 2018, 03:13 PM)
1. This is more about getting used to and relaxing your body in the water. It is mostly about the techniques as time goes you will get the hang of it.

2. Yes you will have to kick your leg from time to time to keep you floating. What I normally do is is whenever I just wanted to stay afloat and on the water and not swimming, my leg would eventually sinks and whole body will be in a slanted position, to avoid this i will kick my legs so that my body returns to horizontal position, and keep repeating it. If you are swimming from one end to another you have to kick your leg anyway.

3. That have to do with timing yourself, if you timed yourself to have 0.5s to catch breath then make sure you suck in as much air as possible and exhale slowly in the water, when you ran out then repeat the same. One advice is do not hold your breath while you are in the water. The extra CO2 will drain your body and also have less time to breath in. The breathing out phase is always in the water and not outside. Let's say you allocate yourself 0.5sec to breath in, but if you are holding your breath and only breath in and out while your face is outside the water within 0.5 sec then is even harder for you to catch more air into your lungs.
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1. You are right ! I spoke to my coach.. and he told me that because i am not used to the water, hence my body stiffness.

2. Noted.. but then i realize that when i swim.. my lower legs muscle kept on cramped. Sometime the feet also... how to solve this?

And what to do during muscle cramping? Don't wanna drown sweat.gif I asked my coach.. he can't answer that doh.gif

3. Noted.. Thank you very much sifu.

4. 1 more question, my office hour until 6pm. I plan to go swimming after office hour, so the question is shall I eat 1st bfore i start swimming? Because after swimming normally 7-8pm.. then only eat.. or even worst.. reach home 9pm then only eat.. a bit late hmm.gif What do you think? any advice?


Thank you
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Hi guys, i used to swim a lot when i was young, then slowly fill up by busy works. I'm thinking go back into swimming. Just wondering you guys have any swimming meetup or club/classes for adult? i'm in KL.

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guys, any good internet link to learn how to breath correctly while doing free style?
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