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darklight79
post May 26 2016, 04:23 PM

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http://jcdfitness.com/2015/05/if-you-want-...-low-carb-trap/

Lastly. Evidence. Me on high carb diet.

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post May 26 2016, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(darklight79 @ May 26 2016, 04:23 PM)
http://jcdfitness.com/2015/05/if-you-want-...-low-carb-trap/

Lastly. Evidence. Me on high carb diet.

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on juice bruh?
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post May 26 2016, 04:36 PM

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in as currently doing ~100g carbs everyday... can confirm slower fat gains, less bloat... some lifts improved...

though I replaced the calories with high fat and protein
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post May 26 2016, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(steadystream @ May 26 2016, 04:24 PM)
on juice bruh?
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I dare you to test me for anabolic substances. Any time of the year, multiple times in a year. I will even pay for it in your presence. If you agree I will pm you my contact and details. If negative, you pay me. =)
Regs here who have known me for years have seen my progress slowly and steadily.

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post May 26 2016, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(steadystream @ May 26 2016, 04:24 PM)
on juice bruh?
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he's on that carbs juice........... blending milo pizza pasta nasi lemak
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post May 26 2016, 11:22 PM

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QUOTE(darklight79 @ May 26 2016, 04:23 PM)
http://jcdfitness.com/2015/05/if-you-want-...-low-carb-trap/

Lastly. Evidence. Me on high carb diet.

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Literally NO ONE is disputing the fact that you can build muscle on high carbs, all I'm saying is that being on keto does not mean you CAN'T build muscle. There are studies that show you can build muscle on low carbs, just as well as you can on a high carb. For some people with insulin sensitivity (like myself) going high carb will be detrimental to my health. Is it honestly that hard to accept that different people react differently to certain diets?

I'm not trying to point score or anything. I'm offering a different view. Not everyone's physiology works well with Keto, the same goes for high carbs or any of the other thousands of diets out there.
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post May 26 2016, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(steadystream @ May 26 2016, 04:24 PM)
on juice bruh?
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He's natty. You can confirm that from his body stats, years of training, the effort he puts into training/nutrition and training style. Attainable naturally in 5+ years years of consistence optimal training/dieting.
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post May 27 2016, 05:16 AM

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QUOTE(ianlee @ May 26 2016, 11:22 PM)
Literally NO ONE is disputing the fact that you can build muscle on high carbs, all I'm saying is that being on keto does not mean you CAN'T build muscle. There are studies that show you can build muscle on low carbs, just as well as you can on a high carb. For some people with insulin sensitivity (like myself) going high carb will be detrimental to my health. Is it honestly that hard to accept that different people react differently to certain diets?

I'm not trying to point score or anything. I'm offering a different view. Not everyone's physiology works well with Keto, the same goes for high carbs or any of the other thousands of diets out there.
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Lol. Who the hell said you HAVE to go high carb? I'm giving an example.
I'm asking why the heck go keto when you can keep carbs above 100 to 125g to stay out of ketosis. You really want to nitpick now when you post links to biased research?
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post May 27 2016, 05:19 AM

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QUOTE(GameFr3ak @ May 26 2016, 05:17 PM)
he's on that carbs juice........... blending milo pizza pasta nasi lemak
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QUOTE(Armesh @ May 26 2016, 11:31 PM)
He's natty. You can confirm that from his body stats, years of training, the effort he puts into training/nutrition and training style. Attainable naturally in 5+ years years of consistence optimal training/dieting.
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I'm flattered but sad at the same time that people don't get this fact. I'm getting a lot of accusations of steroids use now when I start shredding. steady stream, am still waiting for you to take me up on my offer.
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post May 27 2016, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(darklight79 @ May 26 2016, 04:38 PM)
I dare you to test me for anabolic substances. Any time of the year, multiple times in a year. I will even pay for it in your presence. If you agree I will pm you my contact and details. If negative, you pay me. =)
Regs here who have known me for years have seen my progress slowly and steadily.
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Ok, if I find any testosterone in your body then you're paying me. Hahahahaha
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post May 27 2016, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(Armesh @ May 26 2016, 11:31 PM)
He's natty. You can confirm that from his body stats, years of training, the effort he puts into training/nutrition and training style. Attainable naturally in 5+ years years of consistence optimal training/dieting.
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IIRC, he began in 2006.

I recall because I saw his beginner pictures that year.
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post May 27 2016, 10:05 AM

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QUOTE(darklight79 @ May 27 2016, 05:19 AM)
I'm flattered but sad at the same time that people don't get this fact.
Because the only way to know is to know almost everything about Bodybuilding and how to attain genetic limit and elite level strength which takes shit tons TONS of reading, observation & some practical experience.
It's like reverse engineering darklight79 body and coming up with a blueprint to achieve it.

Heck, the avg person doesn't even know basics like cals/20% surplus/10% deficit, let alone knowing programming principles or FFMI. My friends even make fun of me calling me "girl" for using 1.25kg plates to progress, like lol.

Anyway, A HUGE AMOUNT of people who have 70% of your muscle development took the "easy way" anyway. So can't blame society.

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post May 27 2016, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(steadystream @ May 26 2016, 08:24 AM)
on juice bruh?
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if he is on juice, he will look double the size.
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post Oct 10 2018, 02:25 PM

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Is there any where that I can purchase the Keto meal plans instead of preparing them myself? Any recommendations?
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QUOTE(coo|dude @ Oct 10 2018, 02:25 PM)
Is there any where that I can purchase the Keto meal plans instead of preparing them myself? Any recommendations?
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If you can afford meal plans, why not go for places like nandos, steak etc? Mind you the standard meal plan meals with carbs are expensive (for me at least). Can't imagine what kind of price you'll be paying if it's for keto.

Hell even KFC can be considered Keto (remove the skin) if done correctly.


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post Oct 17 2018, 10:31 AM

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I've tried out Keto diet for 1 month myself.

The result is indeed magnificent, I drop 1kg a week doing 3-4days workout with less than 20 mins cardio during workout day.

However, it is quite unsustainable to keepself at doing Keto. If you started with carbs again, you'll your fats gain real quick. In fact, quicker than before.

Why not just go with carbs cycling or fasting method? Just eat between your daily needed calories and you can eat whatever shit you want
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QUOTE(Cloud2322 @ Oct 17 2018, 10:31 AM)
I've tried out Keto diet for 1 month myself.

The result is indeed magnificent, I drop 1kg a week doing 3-4days workout with less than 20 mins cardio during workout day.

However, it is quite unsustainable to keepself at doing Keto. If you started with carbs again, you'll your fats gain real quick. In fact, quicker than before.

Why not just go with carbs cycling or fasting method? Just eat between your daily needed calories and you can eat whatever shit you want
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You lost mostly water weight and glycogen.

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post Oct 18 2018, 01:24 AM

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QUOTE(Cloud2322 @ Oct 17 2018, 10:31 AM)
I've tried out Keto diet for 1 month myself.

The result is indeed magnificent, I drop 1kg a week doing 3-4days workout with less than 20 mins cardio during workout day.

However, it is quite unsustainable to keepself at doing Keto. If you started with carbs again, you'll your fats gain real quick. In fact, quicker than before.

Why not just go with carbs cycling or fasting method? Just eat between your daily needed calories and you can eat whatever shit you want
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Yeah whatever works best for you. Different people different preference.

But Im actually having problems doing OMAD. My appetite is normal, no hunger.
My problem is cos it's one big meal a day, and I already feel so full halfway through. rclxub.gif

Im quitting keto next year. I miss pizza too much.


Btw I dislike measuring progress with weight lost. Waist size or physical appearance is a way better indicator.
Each week see abs more defined. hehe. That's good enough for me.




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post Oct 18 2018, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(nightshade_nova @ Oct 18 2018, 01:24 AM)
Yeah whatever works best for you. Different people different preference.

But Im actually having problems doing OMAD. My appetite is normal, no hunger.
My problem is cos it's one big meal a day, and I already feel so full halfway through.  rclxub.gif

Im quitting keto next year. I miss pizza too much.
Btw I dislike measuring progress with weight lost. Waist size or physical appearance is a way better indicator.
Each week see abs more defined. hehe. That's good enough for me.
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It's different from people to people, but it's more of a conditioning.

For eg: I wasn't used to working out in the morning. After workout, I would feel nauseous and getting stomachache with empty stomach/half empty. That lasted me for a month till I really get used to morning work out, now I'm feeling the full power of morning workout and it's more effective than afternoon/night workout.

It really depends on how you are conditioning your body. Do switch from diet to diet, so your body will need to push itself to change too and keep them in shape. rclxms.gif
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post Oct 19 2018, 12:05 PM

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QUOTE(coo|dude @ Oct 10 2018, 02:25 PM)
Is there any where that I can purchase the Keto meal plans instead of preparing them myself? Any recommendations?
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I found out this after looking for a keto place to eat around KL.
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Pretty expensive though.


QUOTE(Cloud2322 @ Oct 18 2018, 11:22 AM)
It's different from people to people, but it's more of a conditioning.

For eg: I wasn't used to working out in the morning. After workout, I would feel nauseous and getting stomachache with empty stomach/half empty. That lasted me for a month till I really get used to morning work out, now I'm feeling the full power of morning workout and it's more effective than afternoon/night workout.

It really depends on how you are conditioning your body. Do switch from diet to diet, so your body will need to push itself to change too and keep them in shape.  rclxms.gif
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For me, my body doesnt have any problem adapting to almost anything so far.
Went straight one meal a day no side effects.
Even for fasted weight lifting. I guess Im lucky that way.


The problem for me and most ppl are probably sustainable lifestyle for long term.
That's the part that we have to figure out on our own.

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