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TSalien9
post May 18 2012, 04:06 PM, updated 6y ago

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Hye guys. Anyone here have any experience about Keto Diet? Care to share here?

I'll start with mine. Today is my 5th day on Keto Diet. Felt very lethargic making me unable to complete my workout routine today. cry.gif
So, when you guys adjusted with the energy transistion?

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post May 18 2012, 04:10 PM

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Mind sharing your daily diet? I've tried few weeks ago. Its hard. Suffering from hunger the whole day. My meal was like, whole-meal bread with peanut butter, eggs, boiled breast with brocolli and carrots, and those snack bars like nature's valley.

After 2 weeks, i started increasing my carbs intake slowly but still trying my best to avoid carbs as much as possible.
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post May 18 2012, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(elvenchou1987 @ May 18 2012, 04:10 PM)
Mind sharing your daily diet? I've tried few weeks ago. Its hard. Suffering from hunger the whole day. My meal was like, whole-meal bread with peanut butter, eggs, boiled breast with brocolli and carrots, and those snack bars like nature's valley.

After 2 weeks, i started increasing my carbs intake slowly but still trying my best to avoid carbs as much as possible.
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keto means you limit your carbs below 30 g and force your body mechanics switch the energy source from using carbs to fats
your meal consist of too much carbs and starchy veg such as carrot .
that's not a keto

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post May 18 2012, 04:31 PM

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This is my yesterday food intake. First of all, my daily calorie intake is 2007 kcal.

Lunch:
170 g of Blue Bay Shredded Tuna
25 g of CED Peanut Butter
3 First Choice Egg
40 g of Planta Marjerin

Dinner:
200g Ramly Minced Meat
30 g Planta Marjerin
3 First Choice Egg
25 g CED Peanut Butter

Calorie Consume: 1955 kcal
Protein: 146 gram
Fat: 146 gram
Carb: 12 gram
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post May 18 2012, 04:37 PM

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@theCrab, thanks for clarifying

From my sources, the carb intake is below 40g per day. However, I can't seem to find the best carbless breakfast which is suitable for me. Its either wholemeal bread with peanut butter or cereals with milk.

I knwo that brocolli and carrots has the highest carb % in the vege family. I'm trying to find an alternative to that. Maybe making my own coleslaw smile.gif

However, would like to say that this diet is stressful to me. Always in hunger. As for now, I am reducing as much carb as I can everyday.

@alien99
What bout your breakfast?

PS: I read an article stating that you can have a nice full carb cheatmeal at least once a week during this keto diet
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post May 18 2012, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(elvenchou1987 @ May 18 2012, 04:37 PM)
What bout your breakfast? 

PS: I read an article stating that you can have a nice full carb cheatmeal at least once a week during this keto diet
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Breakfast? I eat none because I am in Intermittent Fasting. I always train fasted and usualy done my training in the late morning.

Yes, it is called Carb Cycling. I will do it on Saturday night until SUnday evening. High Carb and Protein, low in Fat.
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QUOTE(elvenchou1987 @ May 18 2012, 04:37 PM)
@theCrab, thanks for clarifying

From my sources, the carb intake is below 40g per day. However, I can't seem to find the best carbless breakfast which is suitable for me. Its either wholemeal bread with peanut butter or cereals with milk.

I knwo that brocolli and carrots has the highest carb % in the vege family. I'm trying to find an alternative to that. Maybe making my own coleslaw smile.gif

However, would like to say that this diet is stressful to me. Always in hunger. As for now, I am reducing as much carb as I can everyday.

@alien99
What bout your breakfast? 

PS: I read an article stating that you can have a nice full carb cheatmeal at least once a week during this keto diet
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carrots have too much starchy carbs
brocolli is fine and very low carbs

hungry,up your fat level
just an example for your breakfast
olive oil pan fried with 5 full eggs

try to get in more fats and for 1st 2 weeks sure you feel legarthic and tired,but once you get through you will feel more energetic
dont give up at half because when you'trying to get in keto state,it like your boiling water,in the middle you put off the fire,it will never boil,don't ruin it,people fail because of that

me myself basically cant follow a strict keto diet
hence i follow a general healthy diet,works for me

IMO keto not for everyone,some people get very good results with keto,some just good with a healthy diet .
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post May 18 2012, 10:31 PM

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I tried low-carb diet before. It was effective but for me, its not worth the effort. Just eat healthy carb and workout consistently is better for me
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I do not know about intermittent fasting but I do find it that a little too taxing on my stomach.

I have no liking towards food but I do not like to stay hungry. So I take a total of 5 to 6 to 7 and to a certain extent 8 meals a day including snacks.

Snacks can be taking a slice of cheddar cheese, some small pieces of hard cheese, a handful of natural almond nuts, 2 half boiled eggs, etc.

My breakfast = whole fried eggs or natural peanut butter or cheese or whatever you can think of that consists minimal carbs.

IDEA: Tuna in a can with Mayo! biggrin.gif
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post May 19 2012, 12:09 PM

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@lilredridinghood

Thanks for your idea.

However I got a question. I have peanut butter too. But without bread, what do I spread it with???
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post May 19 2012, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(elvenchou1987 @ May 19 2012, 12:09 PM)
@lilredridinghood

Thanks for your idea.

However I got a question. I have peanut butter too. But without bread, what do I spread it with???
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Eat it raw. But I always it them with my scramble eggs. Either scramble it together with the eggs or just put the peanut butter on the scramble eggs and let it melt thumbup.gif
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post May 19 2012, 01:11 PM

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i did keto for around 3 months... just by eating boiled eggs, chicken breast without any marinade, fish fillet no marinade... managed to loose a lot...

now revert back to normal diet and started weight lifting..

i dun think doing keto u are advised to do weight training... u gonna snap some shit up....
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post May 19 2012, 01:32 PM

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On keto, i enjoy "sludge" alot.
Just mix 1-2 Tbsp of peanut butter with 1 scoop of protein, as a little bit of water until desired consistency. delicious.


Added on May 19, 2012, 1:33 pm
QUOTE(alien9 @ May 19 2012, 12:12 PM)
Eat it raw. But I always it them with my scramble eggs. Either scramble it together with the eggs or just put the peanut butter on the scramble eggs and let it melt  thumbup.gif
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Or just make protein pancakes topped with peanut butter. thumbup.gif

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post May 19 2012, 01:49 PM

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Finally I broke my Keto Diet on the 5 1/2 day. I need the energy for my workout late this evening and since I'll be paying the gym entrance fees instead of going to my usual free gym, I want to get the most out of it.

QUOTE(justin_5 @ May 19 2012, 01:11 PM)
i did keto for around 3 months... just by eating boiled eggs, chicken breast without any marinade, fish fillet no marinade... managed to loose a lot...

now revert back to normal diet and started weight lifting..

i dun think doing keto u are advised to do weight training... u gonna snap some shit up....
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There is a thread in bodybuilding.com about weightlifting and Keto. Actually, there is a way to bulk using a Keto Diet. How? I don't really know since I use Keto for cutting. But from what I've read, some forumers that used Keto Diet managed to break PRs, have more energy compared to using glycogen.

QUOTE(izglory @ May 19 2012, 01:32 PM)
On keto, i enjoy "sludge" alot.
Just mix 1-2 Tbsp of peanut butter with 1 scoop of protein, as a little bit of water until desired consistency. delicious.


Added on May 19, 2012, 1:33 pm
Or just make protein pancakes topped with peanut butter.  thumbup.gif
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Sadly, I don't have any whey. But I do enjoy my scrambled peanut butter egg. It is more tasty and more creamy than usual scramble egg
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post May 19 2012, 02:01 PM

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Beware of body adapt keto diet, finally the entire body adapt fat metabolism, and the body forgot how to metabolise carbs in future.
When u take carbs back, the body will easily convert carbs to fat for metabolise, because your body lose function to metabolise carb.
In short term keto works. But long term when you retake carbs, you will getting fatter.
Just my 2 cents.
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QUOTE(spazerock @ May 19 2012, 02:01 PM)
Beware of body adapt keto diet, finally the entire body adapt fat metabolism, and the body forgot how to metabolise carbs in future.
When u take carbs back, the body will easily convert carbs to fat for metabolise, because your body lose function to metabolise carb.
In short term keto works. But long term when you retake carbs, you will getting fatter.
Just my 2 cents.
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even if I am in calorie deficit, I will still get fat?
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QUOTE(alien9 @ May 19 2012, 02:02 PM)
even if I am in calorie deficit, I will still get fat?
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Your body is smarter than yours brain. It adapt thing easily. Lets say our bmr rate is 2000 kcal a day. When you calories deficit to 1800 kcal. Your body will easily adapt the calories you take in order for survive, so your bmr become 1800.
When you reduce your calories again it will reduce your bmr for sirvival. your body just want to protect you out of energy deficit and not let you die.
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hmm, got any proof of your claim spazerock.? whats the diff with people with low calories diet and lose a lot of fat? They gain it back fast? ? i think they gain back fast, because the binge after stopping their diet.

Regarding keto. can you relaly lift heavy on low carb or keto diet? if one can break PR, i think he consume sufficient carb like more than 50g before the lifting. i dont think fat and protein can be used for anaerobic workout. got any links that proof otherwise?
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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ May 19 2012, 02:30 PM)
hmm, got any proof of your claim spazerock.? whats the diff with people with low calories diet and lose a lot of fat? They gain it back fast? ? i think they gain back fast, because the binge after stopping their diet.

Regarding keto. can you relaly lift heavy on low carb or keto diet? if one can break PR, i think he consume sufficient carb like more than 50g before the lifting. i dont think fat and protein can be used for anaerobic workout. got any links that proof otherwise?
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There are so many article out there writing defect of keto diet, atkins diet.

Most bodybuilder not using ketogenic diet, they using carbs cycling. They using keto diet just before last week of competition to cut last layer fat and drain their skin.


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QUOTE(spazerock @ May 19 2012, 02:17 PM)
Your body is smarter than yours brain. It adapt thing easily. Lets say our bmr rate is 2000 kcal a day. When you calories deficit to 1800 kcal. Your body will easily adapt the calories you take in order for survive, so your bmr become 1800.
When you reduce your calories again it will reduce your bmr for sirvival. your body just want to protect you out of energy deficit and not let you die.
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this will apply to all cutting phase where users will be in a calorie deficit state. Mind you that BMR and Calorie Maintenance is different. I have a 1619 kcal for BMR and 2509kcal for maintenance. My daily calorie intake is 80% from my maintenance which is 2000kcal; which is far higher than my BMR. So, why people can successfully decrease the fat and will not get fat if they consume carb but still under calorie deficit?

Because the simple science behind it is calorie in vs calorie out

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