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darklight79
post Oct 11 2012, 04:07 PM

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A word of warning. Keto is damn good for fat loss for people with high or moderately high bodyfat. For lean or skinny fat people, it will eat away muscle faster than JAWS at a bikini fest beach party.


Added on October 11, 2012, 4:09 pm
QUOTE(gnetey @ Oct 11 2012, 08:38 AM)
hi all ketosis,
doing research for keto diet and might get into it.
i am on going clean diet with 6-7 meal, the fat at waist didn't change or stay the same for 1 months plus. weight remain same, hitting plateau here. might try keto then.

i am doing plan for my meal if i get into keto
food that i able to included..where i able to prepare
1) steffy peanut butter
2) Ayam Brand - Tuna Light - Chunks In Mineral Water/ mayonnaise
3) Lady's Choice - Mayonnaise
4) Cheesedale - Cheese Slice

then here are some food that i doubt how to consume them. and here my QUesTion.....
1) cooked egg- consume with the yolk ?
2) oil - Oils (Olive Oil*, Flaxseed oil*, etc.) , i able to find some oilve oil with big bottle in tesco, like those ppl use to cook thing, eat it raw? reading ppl consume 1 tbsp/ 2tbsp but is it from these i looking?
3) marjerin planta, eat raw also? since bread a no in keto

and any recommendation for high fat low carb food which easy to buy in malaysia here.
sure also need easy to prepare for meal.
thanks rclxms.gif
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I'm not even on Keto and i can go up to 10 yolks.

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post Oct 11 2012, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(gnetey @ Oct 11 2012, 04:26 PM)
your word do get my attention....
will review it and decide it after.
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Our bodies hate us when we want to lose fat. And fat people produce ketones more readily than lean individuals.
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post Oct 11 2012, 10:44 PM

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QUOTE(potemkin @ Oct 11 2012, 10:16 PM)
Wouldn't Keto help ? I Remember a few months back before leangains became the buzzword people on BB.com were promoting Keto as a way to get below 10% bf (Calories in vs Calories out/Protein intake taken into consideration). What would you recommend for people wanting to cut down below 15% (just using the % as a benchmark since i stalled there)

I'm skinny fat but after failing / stalling to get below 15% just decide to go on a slow controlled bulk , didn't have any muscles to cut down to begin with so i reckon it'll be good to start from 15%.
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The lower your bodyfat %, it's a different ball game. It's very difficult to hit sub 10% conventionally. You do some funky stuff in dieting. I say again keto is EXCELLENT for fat loss for people with high bodyfat but one will be playing with fire the longer they persist with it as the bodyfat gets lower.
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post Mar 6 2016, 08:46 PM

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QUOTE(ah_suknat @ Mar 6 2016, 03:23 PM)
Just another marketing gimmic.

Just change the name so that they can sell some ebooks.

You can too come out with something like seanabolic diet which emphasize on seafood and make ebooks and make profit!
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I agree. It's just like Crossfit. Why do Crossfit to lose weight/build muscle/gain strength when everything and anything else you do will be more than twice as effective.
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post May 22 2016, 08:45 AM

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QUOTE(nightshade_nova @ May 22 2016, 02:19 AM)
Im a believer in keto now that Ive tried it.  smile.gif

Good for busy people who dont have time to do cardio and wanna burn fat.
Even if you only go slightly below your daily calorie intake, the effect is much more noticeable.

Regarding going keto and gaining muscle, no problem at all.
You can do both.  nod.gif
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This is so wrong on so many levels. Dead wrong.

On every level, hormonal and otherwise, it's not optimal.

Ketosis is a catabolic state even in high calories. Insulin down, SHBG up, T3 down, hyou name it and it's not optimal and that nonsense is popular online doesn't change anything. Lots of stupid stuff is popular online.

There is a difference in muscle SPARING and muscle BUILDING.







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post May 26 2016, 09:47 AM

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Nah. Not lawan buddy.

I'm NOT saying YOU'RE stupid.

I'm saying there's a lot of stuff online which is stupid.

You only look bigger from keto possibly because:-
1.Growth response as a beginner
2. Illusion because of being leaner

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post May 26 2016, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(ianlee @ May 26 2016, 10:17 AM)
Scientific Journal: The effects of ketogenic dieting on skeletal muscle and fat mass - Jacob T Rauch, Jeremy E Silva, Ryan P Lowery, Sean A McCleary, Kevin A Shields, Jacob A Ormes, Matthew H Sharp, Steven I Weiner, John I Georges, Jeff S Volek, Dominic P D’agostino, Jacob M Wilson.

Link: http://www.jissn.com/content/pdf/1550-2783-11-S1-P40.pdf

Excerpt:

Also worth reading:
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/can-you-bu...genic-diet.html
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1. Bodybuilding.com = lol
2. You sure you want to dispute Alan Aragon, one of the world's TOP nutritionists who has locked horns with Jeff Volek (a low carb fanatic)
3. Even Kane Sumabat, an aesthetic legend doesn't do low carb anymore.



Gonna edit this with more links. On mobile now.




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post May 26 2016, 04:20 PM

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http://www.alanaragonblog.com/2013/03/13/2...-dr-jeff-volek/
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post May 26 2016, 04:23 PM

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http://jcdfitness.com/2015/05/if-you-want-...-low-carb-trap/

Lastly. Evidence. Me on high carb diet.

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post May 26 2016, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(steadystream @ May 26 2016, 04:24 PM)
on juice bruh?
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I dare you to test me for anabolic substances. Any time of the year, multiple times in a year. I will even pay for it in your presence. If you agree I will pm you my contact and details. If negative, you pay me. =)
Regs here who have known me for years have seen my progress slowly and steadily.

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post May 27 2016, 05:16 AM

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QUOTE(ianlee @ May 26 2016, 11:22 PM)
Literally NO ONE is disputing the fact that you can build muscle on high carbs, all I'm saying is that being on keto does not mean you CAN'T build muscle. There are studies that show you can build muscle on low carbs, just as well as you can on a high carb. For some people with insulin sensitivity (like myself) going high carb will be detrimental to my health. Is it honestly that hard to accept that different people react differently to certain diets?

I'm not trying to point score or anything. I'm offering a different view. Not everyone's physiology works well with Keto, the same goes for high carbs or any of the other thousands of diets out there.
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Lol. Who the hell said you HAVE to go high carb? I'm giving an example.
I'm asking why the heck go keto when you can keep carbs above 100 to 125g to stay out of ketosis. You really want to nitpick now when you post links to biased research?
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post May 27 2016, 05:19 AM

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QUOTE(GameFr3ak @ May 26 2016, 05:17 PM)
he's on that carbs juice........... blending milo pizza pasta nasi lemak
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QUOTE(Armesh @ May 26 2016, 11:31 PM)
He's natty. You can confirm that from his body stats, years of training, the effort he puts into training/nutrition and training style. Attainable naturally in 5+ years years of consistence optimal training/dieting.
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I'm flattered but sad at the same time that people don't get this fact. I'm getting a lot of accusations of steroids use now when I start shredding. steady stream, am still waiting for you to take me up on my offer.

 

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