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English Clubs Liverpool FC- The Kop Talk 2012, Bye Dirk Kuyt!

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post May 19 2012, 07:36 PM

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QUOTE(cksoon @ May 19 2012, 07:30 PM)
will the world laugh at us when we go through all 11 other managers and in the end all rejected us, only our last resort go to rafa? will he even snub us then? lol
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deswai i see this as alil bit of a desperate act.
deswai i think FSG shudve had someone saying yes to reds before giving Kenny the boot.

otherwise its a rushed affair....
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QUOTE(cksoon @ May 19 2012, 07:30 PM)
will the world laugh at us when we go through all 11 other managers and in the end all rejected us, only our last resort go to rafa? will he even snub us then? lol
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There are managers work in smaller clubs or lower league.
There are managers would like to work at Liverpool.
I don't see a problem there.


Added on May 19, 2012, 8:02 pm
QUOTE(Burningsunz @ May 19 2012, 07:35 PM)
It seems that rafa approach FSG and requested for interview buy they rejected him.. I respect rafa for putting his reputation on the line by approaching them rather than wait for them to come knocking
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Source, please.

If he really did, I think he really thinks he has unfinished work at Anfield.

This post has been edited by ALeUNe: May 19 2012, 08:02 PM
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[quote=ALeUNe,May 19 2012, 08:01 PM]
There are managers work in smaller clubs or lower league.
There are managers would like to work at Liverpool.
I don't see a problem there.

I'd like us to get a manager not from a lower league or smaller clubs... as I feel it'll be a step back and I'm sure our ambition is back to top 4, not linger in midtable. no disrespect to managers from smaller club, but even reputable managers find it difficult at liverpool, and i feel the challenge will be too great for managers from smaller club
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post May 19 2012, 08:09 PM

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Rafa! Legendary tactician.
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QUOTE(cksoon @ May 19 2012, 08:05 PM)
I'd like us to get a manager not from a lower league or smaller clubs... as I feel it'll be a step back and I'm sure our ambition is back to top 4, not linger in midtable. no disrespect to managers from smaller club, but even reputable managers find it difficult at liverpool, and i feel the challenge will be too great for managers from smaller club
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Yes, it is very important to have a manager with pedigree.
He can attract players. nod.gif
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post May 19 2012, 08:13 PM

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From what we have seen, these FSG people are much better than the previous yankees in terms of their authenticity as businessmen and their financial resources.

Unfortunately they are still yankees. Americans are generally so full of hype and many of them still have the mindset that they know best.

Well, they appointed KD as interim manager - that's fine. Then they (through their expert managerial skills etc.) gave KD a 3 year contract - that's great. Then they fired him after one contractual year - that's strange. Then they said they wanted someone who'd stay around for 5 years - that's puzzling. Then they go around inviting people to come for an interview (and along the way, got a "whack" on their faces from Mr Rodgers!) - and that's embarrassing!

Yanks - do they really know how to go about doing things?! They should hire a team of Malaysian/Singaporean consultants to manage their business! No wonder the American economy is in such a pathetic state!

Come on...on the one hand you get your man to tell the world that Liverpool's way is 'the quiet (behind the door) way'. That sounds like they've been working ever so hard behind the scene and have a great manager lined up already plus a DOF, DOC etc.. before they fired the whole bunch. One would even be forgiven for wondering whether Guardiola's resignation from Barca and KD's being fired is rather coincidental (wow!)

Pathetic yanks ... hah..even the Mancs are not spared!
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lol now they want Rafa..then it will become Liverspain 2.0
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QUOTE(RedSiglap56 @ May 19 2012, 08:13 PM)
From what we have seen, these FSG people are much better than the previous yankees in terms of their authenticity as businessmen and their financial resources.

Unfortunately they are still yankees. Americans are generally so full of hype and many of them still have the mindset that they know best.

Well, they appointed KD as interim manager - that's fine. Then they (through their expert managerial skills etc.) gave KD a 3 year contract - that's great. Then they fired him after one contractual year - that's strange. Then they said they wanted someone who'd stay around for 5 years - that's puzzling. Then they go around inviting people to come for an interview (and along the way, got a "whack" on their faces from Mr Rodgers!) - and that's embarrassing!

Yanks - do they really know how to go about doing things?! They should hire a team of Malaysian/Singaporean consultants to manage their business! No wonder the American economy is in such a pathetic state!

Come on...on the one hand you get your man to tell the world that Liverpool's way is 'the quiet (behind the door) way'. That sounds like they've been working ever so hard behind the scene and have a great manager lined up already plus a DOF, DOC etc.. before they fired the whole bunch. One would even be forgiven for wondering whether Guardiola's resignation from Barca and KD's being fired is rather coincidental (wow!)

Pathetic yanks ... hah..even the Mancs are not spared!
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http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news...en-to-top-stars
"It's about the football club. We are talking about going forward, not going backwards."

The owner didn't see King Kenny could bring the club forward.
Or the owner saw the club moving backward.

It is something uncalled-for to discredit the owner.
King Kenny needed to do himself justice. The club owner needed justifications.
King Kenny accepted the decision.
What does that imply? KK knew very well he didn't deliver results.

This post has been edited by ALeUNe: May 19 2012, 08:49 PM
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IMO, I do think Rafa is suitable under Fenway.. remember Moneyball? Fenway do believe in stats...
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If, and I mean IF, Rafa does come back, I wonder how he will do with the budget? Just saw the video of Hillsborough memorial someone posted a while ago, thank you for that.. I'd agree with the top comment there: "Wonder what he can do with 100 million in one summer and great support from his owners?" He has bought some great players for the clubs who went on and did so well for the club, such as Luis Garcia, Xabi Alonso, Mascherano, Fernando Torres, Pepe Reina, Daniel Agger, Martin Skrtel and even Lucas Leiva etc. And of course some rubbish who never proved himself in the club too especially during the last years in Liverpool..
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QUOTE(vcj1992 @ May 19 2012, 09:21 PM)
If, and I mean IF, Rafa does come back, I wonder how he will do with the budget? Just saw the video of Hillsborough memorial someone posted a while ago, thank you for that.. I'd agree with the top comment there: "Wonder what he can do with 100 million in one summer and great support from his owners?" He has bought some great players for the clubs who went on and did so well for the club, such as Luis Garcia, Xabi Alonso, Mascherano, Fernando Torres, Pepe Reina, Daniel Agger, Martin Skrtel and even Lucas Leiva etc. And of course some rubbish who never proved himself in the club too especially during the last years in Liverpool..
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Not every day Sunday. No more 100m transfer kit.
The next manager will have to work on tight budget.
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ May 19 2012, 08:01 PM)
There are managers work in smaller clubs or lower league.
There are managers would like to work at Liverpool.
I don't see a problem there.


Added on May 19, 2012, 8:02 pm
Source, please.

If he really did, I think he really thinks he has unfinished work at Anfield.
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Sorry for my late reply.. Here is it http://www.tribalfootball.com/articles/ben...my_landing_page
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post May 19 2012, 09:31 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ May 19 2012, 08:30 PM)
http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news...en-to-top-stars
"It's about the football club. We are talking about going forward, not going backwards."

The owner didn't see King Kenny could bring the club forward.
Or the owner saw the club moving backward.

It is something uncalled-for to discredit the owner.
King Kenny needed to do himself justice. The club owner needed justifications.
King Kenny accepted the decision.
What does that imply? KK knew very well he didn't deliver results.
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ May 19 2012, 09:22 PM)
Not every day Sunday. No more 100m transfer kit.
The next manager will have to work on tight budget.
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yeah, KD did bring the club forward if you ask me... he changed and inspired the team alot, but he knows, rebuilding work and expectations is high from KOP faithful, so, it's better if he leave and at least his legendary image is in tact. rather than makes thing worse, and he knows, it'll be better to let someone carry on his good work next season. i mean, players form has been inconsistent, but we can see what KD try to do and he's trying bring back the football style we desired... he laid the foundation which is tough, and next manager should carry on his good work... but this time.. i don't think we'll get huge budget for transfer... judging from the the fact they are getting the managers that work with tight budgets previously


Added on May 19, 2012, 9:34 pm
QUOTE(Burningsunz @ May 19 2012, 09:27 PM)
is the source reliable? because as far as im concerned, tribalfootball always give inaccurate gossips

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sorry but tribalfootball is not a reliable source
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I can't understand why Liverpool want Martinez for the post. Could someone please explain to me. I would prefer AVB than him.
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QUOTE(amirbashah @ May 19 2012, 10:36 PM)
I can't understand why Liverpool want Martinez for the post. Could someone please explain to me. I would prefer AVB than him.
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The listed managers are going through an interview.
I believe they are requested to present their plans and strategies on how to bring the club forward.
Meaning they are selling their ideas and strategies to the club owner.
He'l get the job if the club owner accepts his ideas.
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QUOTE(cksoon @ May 19 2012, 09:31 PM)
yeah, KD did bring the club forward if you ask me... he changed and inspired the team alot, but he knows, rebuilding work and expectations is  high from KOP faithful, so, it's better if he leave and at least his legendary image is in tact. rather than makes thing worse, and he knows, it'll be better to let someone carry on his good work next season. i mean, players form has been inconsistent, but we can see what KD try to do and he's trying bring back the football style we desired... he laid the foundation which is tough, and next manager should carry on his good work... but this time.. i don't think we'll get huge budget for transfer... judging from the the fact they are getting the managers that work with tight budgets previously


Added on May 19, 2012, 9:34 pm

is the source reliable? because as far as im concerned, tribalfootball always give inaccurate gossips
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But now alot of web saying FSG have approach rafa

http://www.lfcstats.co.uk/2012/05/rafa-app...-kenny.html?m=1
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Brendan Rodgers would be another good choice than Martinez although he had turned down the offer. Maybe the owner should just bring Rafa Back. My pick would be:

1. Pep Guardiola
2. AVB/Rafa




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