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English Clubs Liverpool FC- The Kop Talk 2012, Bye Dirk Kuyt!

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post May 19 2012, 11:11 PM

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Also Soccernet has reported the following:
"Fenway Sports Group's 'long list' of ten candidates does include older managers, and former England boss Fabio Capello, 65, may be sounded out. Rafael Benitez is not on that list "for the time being" but he might eventually be included, if some of the prime candidates fall by the wayside, and it is ESPN's understanding that he has registered his interest in the post."

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QUOTE(farisq @ May 19 2012, 11:11 PM)
Also Soccernet has reported the following:
"Fenway Sports Group's 'long list' of ten candidates does include older managers, and former England boss Fabio Capello, 65, may be sounded out. Rafael Benitez is not on that list "for the time being" but he might eventually be included, if some of the prime candidates fall by the wayside, and it is ESPN's understanding that he has registered his interest in the post."

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Well, pep until now did not came out n say he is not interested in Liverpool so anything still can happen and we totally got no idea who is exactly in the list and who are fav..But

Steve McManaman has told Liverpool the days of them being able to hand-pick their next manager are "long gone".
Former Anfield hero McManaman suggested anyone who thought the likes of Pep Guardiola or Jose Mourinho would be interested in replacing the sacked Kenny Dalglish was not "living in the real world".


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Andre Villas-Boas awaiting call from Liverpool which could bring chance to prove Chelsea wrong

By Jason Burt

7:30AM BST 18 May 2012

From the man everyone wanted a year ago, having swept the board at Porto with dynamic attacking play, the 34 year-old was ridiculed as incompetent and out of his depth when he was brutally sacked by Chelsea in March.

At that time, Villas-Boas was minded to wash his hands of the Premier League and rebuild his career elsewhere. He may still do that. Roma wanted him last year and are looking to come calling again with coach Luis Enrique quitting. The Italian club’s sporting director, Franco Baldini, was in the United States on Thursday talking to the club’s owner, Thomas DiBenedetto, to discuss plans and he is a known admirer of Villas-Boas.

The feeling is mutual. Indeed Villas-Boas had suggested, during negotiations over his move to Chelsea, that the club should hire Baldini as the director of football. Certainly the former England general manager would have quickly improved the atmosphere at Stamford Bridge and provided a conduit between the dugout, the boardroom and owner Roman Abramovich. But that did not happen.

Instead, according to sources, Villas-Boas was left feeling bruised and let down by the whole experience at Chelsea where he was handed the impossible job of rebuilding the squad, changing the style of play and still winning trophies. And he was asked to do this on his own, without his own backroom staff and with debatable support from the club’s hierarchy, including Michael Emenalo who, predictably, became the director of football instead of Baldini.

Failure at Chelsea has only redoubled Villas-Boas’s determination to prove some people wrong; to try to come back and challenge for trophies and, of course, take on the club who sacked him having persuaded him to join them ahead of Bayern Munich, Juventus and Inter Milan who were all, also, willing to pay the €15million (£12million) to release him from his contract at Porto.

Sources close to Villas-Boas say he will now wait for the right opportunity to come along. He is busily preparing himself for that having travelled, on his own initiative, to Brazil last weekend to scout players and also drawing up plans to be at the Euro 2012 finals in Poland and Ukraine to watch potential signings. That might all change if he gets a job sooner. The right opportunity may have just presented itself at Liverpool with the departure of Kenny Dalglish.

The club spent Thursday deciding which managers on their shortlist they would approach first and the call has, of course, now gone out to Wigan Athletic’s Roberto Martínez. But the Fenway Sports Group will be speaking to more than one candidate and Villas-Boas, back in Portugal, is awaiting the call and would be intrigued by the possibility of talking to Liverpool.

FSG also needs to remember why it came so close to approaching Villas-Boas when he was at Porto and why he topped the list of candidates then. The Americans may feel that the young Portuguese is now ‘damaged goods’, or may not be accepted by Liverpool supporters because of his experiences at Chelsea, but that would be far too short-sighted.

It may be that Villas-Boas has to convince Liverpool that gossip over his poor man-management style is just that because he would appear to possess all the other qualities to make a successful manager at a club that certainly appeals to him. Like his former mentor, Jose Mourinho, Villas-Boas knows the importance and heritage and size of Liverpool as one of the world’s biggest and most iconic clubs.

He also spoke warmly, when he was at Chelsea, of the Liverpool supporters and the fervent atmosphere in the city that engulfs the club — in the way that is hard to replicate in the sprawling metropolis of London.

There is another thought for FSG – look at the magnificent job Alan Pardew has done at Newcastle United after being sacked by Southampton. A good manager is a good manager and if Villas-Boas does go to Roma it will be the Premier League’s loss.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/...lsea-wrong.html


looks like AVB love us...that reason alone got my vote! rclxms.gif
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I don't think Pep would go to Liverpool. Plus he did mention he wanted to take a year off from football. Moreover, Liverpool will not be playing in the Champions League next season.
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post May 19 2012, 11:46 PM

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QUOTE(leftist @ May 19 2012, 11:24 PM)
Andre Villas-Boas awaiting call from Liverpool which could bring chance to prove Chelsea wrong

By Jason Burt

7:30AM BST 18 May 2012

From the man everyone wanted a year ago, having swept the board at Porto with dynamic attacking play, the 34 year-old was ridiculed as incompetent and out of his depth when he was brutally sacked by Chelsea in March.

At that time, Villas-Boas was minded to wash his hands of the Premier League and rebuild his career elsewhere. He may still do that. Roma wanted him last year and are looking to come calling again with coach Luis Enrique quitting. The Italian club’s sporting director, Franco Baldini, was in the United States on Thursday talking to the club’s owner, Thomas DiBenedetto, to discuss plans and he is a known admirer of Villas-Boas.

The feeling is mutual. Indeed Villas-Boas had suggested, during negotiations over his move to Chelsea, that the club should hire Baldini as the director of football. Certainly the former England general manager would have quickly improved the atmosphere at Stamford Bridge and provided a conduit between the dugout, the boardroom and owner Roman Abramovich. But that did not happen.

Instead, according to sources, Villas-Boas was left feeling bruised and let down by the whole experience at Chelsea where he was handed the impossible job of rebuilding the squad, changing the style of play and still winning trophies. And he was asked to do this on his own, without his own backroom staff and with debatable support from the club’s hierarchy, including Michael Emenalo who, predictably, became the director of football instead of Baldini.

Failure at Chelsea has only redoubled Villas-Boas’s determination to prove some people wrong; to try to come back and challenge for trophies and, of course, take on the club who sacked him having persuaded him to join them ahead of Bayern Munich, Juventus and Inter Milan who were all, also, willing to pay the €15million (£12million) to release him from his contract at Porto.

Sources close to Villas-Boas say he will now wait for the right opportunity to come along. He is busily preparing himself for that having travelled, on his own initiative, to Brazil last weekend to scout players and also drawing up plans to be at the Euro 2012 finals in Poland and Ukraine to watch potential signings. That might all change if he gets a job sooner. The right opportunity may have just presented itself at Liverpool with the departure of Kenny Dalglish.

The club spent Thursday deciding which managers on their shortlist they would approach first and the call has, of course, now gone out to Wigan Athletic’s Roberto Martínez. But the Fenway Sports Group will be speaking to more than one candidate and Villas-Boas, back in Portugal, is awaiting the call and would be intrigued by the possibility of talking to Liverpool.

FSG also needs to remember why it came so close to approaching Villas-Boas when he was at Porto and why he topped the list of candidates then. The Americans may feel that the young Portuguese is now ‘damaged goods’, or may not be accepted by Liverpool supporters because of his experiences at Chelsea, but that would be far too short-sighted.

It may be that Villas-Boas has to convince Liverpool that gossip over his poor man-management style is just that because he would appear to possess all the other qualities to make a successful manager at a club that certainly appeals to him. Like his former mentor, Jose Mourinho, Villas-Boas knows the importance and heritage and size of Liverpool as one of the world’s biggest and most iconic clubs.

He also spoke warmly, when he was at Chelsea, of the Liverpool supporters and the fervent atmosphere in the city that engulfs the club — in the way that is hard to replicate in the sprawling metropolis of London.

There is another thought for FSG – look at the magnificent job Alan Pardew has done at Newcastle United after being sacked by Southampton. A good manager is a good manager and if Villas-Boas does go to Roma it will be the Premier League’s loss.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/...lsea-wrong.html
looks like AVB love us...that reason alone got my vote! rclxms.gif
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He didnt go to Roma right? I heard that Roma hired somebody already?
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post May 19 2012, 11:48 PM

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just get mourinho and be done with it. no pep next season so la liga will be so boring for him... come special one. you want CL? win it with us, for us
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QUOTE(Petre @ May 19 2012, 11:48 PM)
just get mourinho and be done with it. no pep next season so la liga will be so boring for him... come special one. you want CL? win it with us, for us
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i don think RM will release him though unless he want to come and take pay cut.
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QUOTE(PPZ @ May 19 2012, 11:50 PM)
i don think RM will release him though unless he want to come and take pay cut.
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since when mourinho is bothered by a paycheck? sliding on the byline is his passion
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QUOTE(Petre @ May 19 2012, 11:51 PM)
since when mourinho is bothered by a paycheck? sliding on the byline is his passion
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you never know. yes. he did say that he like to manage liverpool one day but let's hope the new manager the best. for me, if AVB comes then it is good enuogh.
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ May 19 2012, 08:30 PM)
http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news...en-to-top-stars
"It's about the football club. We are talking about going forward, not going backwards."

The owner didn't see King Kenny could bring the club forward.
Or the owner saw the club moving backward.

It is something uncalled-for to discredit the owner.
King Kenny needed to do himself justice. The club owner needed justifications.
King Kenny accepted the decision.
What does that imply? KK knew very well he didn't deliver results.
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I heard King Kenny flew to the USA to talk with the owners. They offered him to go upstairs but he refused as he believed he can still take the club forward but they didn't agree, hence the sack.

If Kenny knew very well the club isn't going forward with him, he would have stepped down.

Told them to even keep his pay off fees and use it on transfers instead.

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QUOTE(Adryan @ May 19 2012, 11:52 PM)
I heard King Kenny flew to the USA to talk with the owners. They offered him to go upstairs but he refused as he believed he can still take the club forward but they didn't agree, hence the sack.

If Kenny knew very well the club isn't going forward with him, he would have stepped down.

Told them to even keep his pay off fees and use it on transfers instead.
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no ill intentions but i read that since its not officially documented somebody suggest that this is just speculation. but anyway, we never know until some believable source confirms it
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QUOTE(Petre @ May 19 2012, 11:59 PM)
no ill intentions but i read that since its not officially documented somebody suggest that this is just speculation. but anyway, we never know until some believable source confirms it
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True but it was kinda picking up speed and there's no way people will announce that either way but Kenny being Kenny .. I wouldn't be surprise.

Apparently isn't true as well but Kenny will always be a class act.
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QUOTE(PPZ @ May 19 2012, 11:46 PM)
He didnt go to Roma right? I heard that Roma hired somebody already?
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nope...Roma hired Vicenzo Montella if im not mistaken..their former player
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QUOTE(Adryan @ May 20 2012, 12:01 AM)
True but it was kinda picking up speed and there's no way people will announce that either way but Kenny being Kenny .. I wouldn't be surprise.

Apparently isn't true as well but Kenny will always be a class act.
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indeed he is... notworthy.gif


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Pep never been tested to work with a less talented team before so it can be say he is unproven. That barca team he managed is a team out of this world. I doubt he can be succesful with a lesser team.

FSG need to appoint manager fast so the new guy will have time to gather his backroom team and layout a plan. With euro coming up player price will be inflated

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QUOTE(leftist @ May 20 2012, 12:02 AM)
nope...Roma hired Vicenzo Montella if im not mistaken..their former player
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yea , roma hired montella, thats why now AVB turn to his because beside roma we are the only one that have potential to be in top 4 who needs a manager. so basically instead of we choosing AVB its him who choose us after losing out on Roma top seat

not sure if anyone read this before.

THE SPIRIT OF SHANKLY LETTER TO FSG

Dear Mr Werner, Mr Henry and Mr Ayre
We are writing to you as we are concerned about the current situation that our football club finds itself in. It is a time of worry for supporters, not just because of the huge changes and the transformation that is happening in such a short time frame but the manner in which it is happening.

It may be that yourselves and the board of Liverpool Football Club have a vision you are working towards. It may be that you have implemented a strategy to deliver that vision and decisions are being made to work towards this. However, from the outside where supporters find themselves once again, it looks like a football club in disarray. Confusion and chaos seems to reign and no one is coming out of this with much credit, particularly the football club’s image and brand.

We need clear and pro-active communication, a confident message about the club’s plans that breeds confidence amongst supporters that we are moving in the right direction. Instead, we have silence and a lack of information or understanding on decisions being made.

Today we find ourselves with key positions at the football club vacant. Most notably, the position of Manager and the lack of afootballing man on the board. There has been much speculation, along with emails sent to supporters groups, on who is providing advice to yourselves. It may well be the case that this is speculation; however, it is understandable that there is speculation given the lack of clarity and information on who is deciding on matters, why and the timing of them.
We have seen both Damien Comolli and Kenny Dalglish removed from their positions, and the search for replacements is still ongoing. We do know that conversations have been held with individuals mentioned in today’s rumours about the football staff and those who have held these positions.

Mr Ayre has said today:

“I can tell you categorically that Alan Kayll and Paul Tompkins have had no input on the manager or anything else for that matter. I’ve seen a lot of that stuff being suggested and it’s nonsense.”

This is encouraging as it is the firm belief of Spirit Of Shankly that footballing decisions should be made by footballing men who are appropriately qualified. We know all too well of the mistakes that follow if this simple mantra is not adhered to.

Are suitably qualified individuals making these decisions?

Today, Ian Ayre gave an interview, talking about the removal of Kenny Dalglish as manager, in which he stated that “Winning the FA Cup wouldn’t have made any difference – it was never about an individual result. It was always about taking a review of the season in full.”
As supporters, we have always believed in the quote from Bill Shankly that “Liverpool Football club exists not to make money, it exists to win trophies and be a source of pride for its supporters. It serves no other purpose.”.
To supporters, this is of massive importance. We know that success in football requires money. However, the quote from Ian Ayrewould lead us to believe that our focus is no longer on winning trophies but making money. In a season that has seen us end with one trophy out of the three available and narrowly miss out on a second, it is somewhat disrespectful to suggest to supporters that winning another trophy would not be good enough. It is also contradictory to what Ian Ayre himself said earlier in the month: “Anyone who was at the Carling Cup final or the semi-final against Everton will tell you that’s what being a Liverpool fan is all about. It might not have the biggest prize money or the biggest status, but it’s fantastic. You go to watch a football team every week because you want them to be successful and win things. John and Tom will be there on Saturday. That’s why you buy sports teams – to watch them compete for trophies”. Ian Ayre, May 2012.

Is it now the strategy of Liverpool FC to place greater importance upon generating revenues above winning trophies?

Today, communication and leadership is vital. As supporters we have seen all too clearly what a lack of communication from absentee owners leads to. There has been very limited dialogue through the Supporters Committee which is still in its infancy, but this has been mainly used by the club to get messages out, rather than the dialogue promised with supporters at the time of your takeover. At a time when a clear message is needed, it is somewhat embarrassing for supporters and the football club to see Twitter messages on who supporters think should be the next manager. We are Liverpool FC. We are better than that.

Ultimately, supporters remain in the dark once again about the plans for this football club moving forward. We find ourselves experiencing déjà vu, where boardroom decisions lead to more questions than they answer. If we all want to pull in the same direction, transparency is needed. As supporters we often offer blind devotion to our football team. Due to our history, we do not afford the same luxury to the football club. It is equally as important for you to trust in supporters, so that we can work together for the betterment of the football club, as it is for us to trust in you.

We ask that you speak with supporters – engage with a true representative cross section of supporters and work with supporters to provide solutions to our current problems. This will enable communication with supporters to take place in an open and accountable manner.
Hopefully hear from you soon.

Spirit Of Shankly

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Come AVB come. I like the fact that he's been scouting around.
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QUOTE(rushmode @ May 20 2012, 12:05 AM)
Pep never been tested to work with a less talented team before so it can be say he is unproven. That barca team he managed is a team out of this world. I doubt he can be succesful with a lesser team.

FSG need to appoint manager fast so the new guy will have time to gather his backroom team and layout a plan. With euro coming up player price will be inflated
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True but the trick is, he will sort of bring continuity to the club, rather then a fresh approach. He's philosophy of football can be said to be almost similar because both Barcelona and Liverpool USED to play the same kind of style in the past, both want to have a very good academy, both are more than just a club (Mes que un club) to the fans.

And the fact that Barcelona consists of players and staff that have the same philosophy has brought them alot of rewards. The same way it did under Shankly, Paisley and Kenny.

There were rumours he was looking for houses around Liverpool but I'm sure they are just rumours. Also, his brother is the agent of Luis Suarez .. so he's not exactly unattached!

Anyways, apparently, some people state that it wasn't the failure of 4th spot that got Kenny the sack, but the Suarez incident also played a huge part.

If that is true, we'll likely to see the departure of Luis Suarez in the near future. sad.gif

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I like them SoS. They are keen observers of the welfare of the club.

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