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Arsenal fans know about this tour agency mayflower offering football packages to watch arsenal matches?
MATCH[ ]DD/MM/YY[ ]HOME TEAM v. AWAY TEAM[ ]RESULTS
EPL 18/08/12 Arsenal v. Sunderland EPL 25/08/12 Stoke City v. Arsenal
EPL 01/09/12 Liverpool v. Arsenal EPL 15/09/12 Arsenal v. Southampton UCL 18(19)/09/12 EPL 22/09/12 Manchester City v. Arsenal COC 26/09/12 EPL 29/09/12 Arsenal v. Chelsea
UCL 2(3)/10/12 EPL 06/10/12 West Ham United v. Arsenal EPL 20/10/12 Norwich City v. Arsenal UCL 23(24)/10/12 EPL 27/10/12 Arsenal v. Queens Park Rangers COC 31/10/12
EPL 03/11/12 Manchester United v. Arsenal UCL 06(07)/11/12 EPL 10/11/12 Arsenal v. Fulham EPL 17/11/12 Arsenal v. Tottenham Hotspur UCL 20(21)/11/12 EPL 24/11/12 Aston Villa v. Arsenal EPL 28/11/12 Everton v. Arsenal
EPL 01/12/12 Arsenal v. Swansea UCL 04(05)/12/12 EPL 08/12/12 Arsenal v. West Bromwich Albion COC 12/12/12 EPL 15/12/12 Reading v. Arsenal EPL 22/12/12 Wigan Athletic v. Arsenal EPL 26/12/12 Arsenal v. West Ham United EPL 29/12/12 Arsenal v. Newcastle United
EPL 01/01/13 Southampton v. Arsenal FA 05/01/13 COC 09/01/13 EPL 12/01/13 Arsenal v. Manchester City EPL 19/01/13 Chelsea v. Arsenal COC 23/01/13 FA 26/01/13 EPL 29/01/13 Arsenal v. Liverpool
EPL 02/02/13 Arsenal v. Stoke City EPL 09/02/13 Sunderland v. Arsenal UCL FA 16/02/13 EPL 23/02/13 Arsenal v. Aston Villa COC 24/02/13
EPL 02/03/13 Tottenham Hotspur v. Arsenal UCL EPL 09/03/13 Arsenal v. Everton EPL 16/03/13 Swansea v. Arsenal EPL 30/03/13 Arsenal v. Reading
UCL 02(03)/04/13 EPL 06/04/13 West Bromwich Albion v. Arsenal UCL 09(10)/04/13 EPL 13/04/13 Arsenal v. Norwich City EPL 20/04/13 Fulham v. Arsenal UCL 23(24)/04/13 EPL 27/04/13 Arsenal v. Manchester United UCL 30(01)/04/13
EPL 04/05/13 Queens Park Rangers v. Arsenal FA 11/05/13 EPL 12/05/13 Arsenal v. Wigan Athletic EPL 19/05/13 Newcastle United v. Arsenal UCL 25/05/13
Fixtures by Title:-
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18/08/12 Arsenal v. Sunderland 25/08/12 Stoke City v. Arsenal
01/09/12 Liverpool v. Arsenal 15/09/12 Arsenal v. Southampton 22/09/12 Manchester City v. Arsenal 29/09/12 Arsenal v. Chelsea
06/10/12 West Ham United v. Arsenal 20/10/12 Norwich City v. Arsenal 27/10/12 Arsenal v. Queens Park Rangers
03/11/12 Manchester United v. Arsenal 10/11/12 Arsenal v. Fulham 17/11/12 Arsenal v. Tottenham Hotspur 24/11/12 Aston Villa v. Arsenal 28/11/12 Everton v. Arsenal
01/12/12 Arsenal v. Swansea 08/12/12 Arsenal v. West Bromwich Albion 15/12/12 Reading v. Arsenal 22/12/12 Wigan Athletic v. Arsenal 26/12/12 Arsenal v. West Ham United 29/12/12 Arsenal v. Newcastle United
01/01/13 Southampton v. Arsenal 12/01/13 Arsenal v. Manchester City 19/01/13 Chelsea v. Arsenal 29/01/13 Arsenal v. Liverpool
02/02/13 Arsenal v. Stoke City 09/02/13 Sunderland v. Arsenal 23/02/13 Arsenal v. Aston Villa
02/03/13 Tottenham Hotspur v. Arsenal 09/03/13 Arsenal v. Everton 16/03/13 Swansea v. Arsenal 30/03/13 Arsenal v. Reading
06/04/13 West Bromwich Albion v. Arsenal 13/04/13 Arsenal v. Norwich City 20/04/13 Fulham v. Arsenal 27/04/13 Arsenal v. Manchester United
04/05/13 Queens Park Rangers v. Arsenal 12/05/13 Arsenal v. Wigan Athletic 19/05/13 Newcastle United v. Arsenal
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'A meeting in coarse cotton, sixpence for leather and laces. Factory hardened arms mix oil and mud. A century and a quarter forward, Gunners together; battles ahead. From those first heavy steps; Men will become gods.'
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Arsenal Football Club was originally founded in 1886 by employees of the the Dial Square workshop at the Royal Arsenal, which was an armaments factory in South-East London, in a district named Woolwich. Consequently, they were first named ‘Dial Square’ A Scotsman, David Danskin is the man said to have bought the first football for the club. Among the first players for the club was former Nottingham Forest goalkeeper, Fred Beardsley who would be the one to obtain a set of red kits, the colour the Arsenal still wear today. The first match for the new club took place on December 11, 1886 in an open field in the Isle of Dogs (another London district) against a club known as the Eastern Wanderers in which the club won 6-0. What is interesting is that other than the date of this match, everything else written so far may possibly be a myth.
By Christmas however, they had changed the name of their club to Royal Arsenal. They originally played on Plumstead Common before moving to Manor Ground in 1888. Royal Arsenal would move away and then return to Manor Ground as Invicta Ground proved too costly for them. Playing in the amateur leagues proved fruitful for Royal Arsenal as they won a couple of trophies and largely outclassed the other amateur clubs from London. But it wasn’t all rosy for them as the professional clubs attempted to sign their players and they were subsequently banned for amateur football for being too professional, which relegated them to only playing friendlies and in the FA Cup. So 1893 in a bid to gain access into the Football League, Royal Arsenal changed their name to Woolwich Arsenal and became a limited liability company, and attempted to buy the Manor Ground. This ended up working and Woolwich Arsenal began life in the Second Division, where they would spend eleven years, generally finishing mid-table every year. Under the guidance of manager Harry Bradshaw, Woolwich Arsenal would gain promotion to the First Division, where they would lose their manager before the season started to Fulham. They would never come close to challenging for the League title due to financial concerns. Their playing grounds were on the South side of London where most clubs in the division were on the North side, and so to stay afloat they were forced into selling their top players, which resulted in smaller attendances for home matches. In 1910 Woolwich Arsenal went into voluntary liquidation as they were on the verge of bankruptcy when Sir Henry Norris, the chairman of Fulham FC, and other businessmen bought the club. Norris was well aware of the financial difficulties of the location of Woolwich Arsenal and so attempted to merge the club with Fulham, and when that failed, attempted to have them play on alternating Saturdays, which also failed. And so Norris focused on finding a new location for the club, eventually setting his sights on Highbury, in North London, which was met with opposition from the fans and the residents of Highbury. Norris forced it through and spent 125,000 pounds on a new Stadium (9.5 million in 2010 prices) Having been relegated back to the Second Division, Woolwich Arsenal would move to Highbury in 1913, and change their name from ‘Woolwich Arsenal’ to ‘The Arsenal. After four years of no competitive football due to World War 1, The Arsenal would gain promotion into the First Division in a dubious way. In the final season of football in 1914, Arsenal had finished in 6th place, but the First Division was expanding from 20 clubs to 22 and two clubs were to be given the extra two places in the division. Chelsea was given the one place, despite being relegated in the previous season. The other club that had been relegated was none other than Tottenham Hotspur, and they were in the running for the extra place along with Barnsley and Wolves, who had finished ahead of Arsenal. Despite all this, Norris argued that The Arsenal should obtain promotion due to their “long service to league football” and the League board agreed, voting 18-8 to promote The Arsenal. It was alleged that they only managed this promotion due to bribery by Norris with his good friend and chairman of Liverpool, John McKenna, and has fueled the long-standing intense rivalry with Tottenham every since. It has also been argued that Norris was aware of match fixing before the war by Liverpool and Manchester United and used it as a tool to be promoted. Whatever the case, The Arsenal gained entrance into the First Division in 1919 and have never left since, holding the record for the longest unbroken stretch of top-flight football.
After some very poor showing and narrowly avoiding relegation, Norris had enough of his manager Leslie Knighton and hired Herbert Chapman in 1925. Chapman would put his stamp on The Arsenal, changing the way the club did things. Chapman changed the training philosophy and physiotherapy regimes and added numbers to the players shirts, a practice that is now common-place across the footballing world. He also altered the kit, adding white sleeves in 1933, and insisted The Arsenal be known as just ‘Arsenal’ so they would be the first club in alphabetical order every time. He even managed to change the name of the nearby tube station from Gillespie Road to Arsenal, which now has a 52 metre mural to commemorate the team’s move from Highbury in 2006. Chapman also changed the way the game was played on the pitch with the new formation now called ‘WM‘ which can also be described as a 3-2-5 or a 3-2-2-3. It proved so successful that by the late 1930s, most clubs had adopted this formation In Hebert Chapman’s first season in charge, Arsenal made their best finish ever in the league by placing second, but the next few seasons had them stay mid-table. Norris allowed Chapman to spend large sums of money however, and nearly won their first ever trip to the FA Cup final, losing 1-0 to Cardiff City. Three years later, and after buying Arsenal greats Cliff Bastin, David Jack and Alex James, Arsenal made the FA Cup final once more, this time defeating Chapman’s old club Huddersfield Town 2-0 and earning the clubs first ever major trophy. They then won the League title for the first time in 1931, recording their best ever win against Grimsby Town, 9-1, which still stands. In 1932 Arsenal lost the FA Cup Final to Newcastle 2-1 after they had a goal that was wrongly awarded as a goal kick. The 1932-33 season would see Arsenal win their 2nd league title. In January 1934, Herbert Chapman would suddenly pass away from pneumonia, but that would not stop the winning ways as they would win the League again that season, as well as 1934-35 and 1937-38 and another FA Cup in 1936. Arsenal were such a strong club that in 1934, England had seven Arsenal players start a match and defeated the then, World Champions Italy 3-2, and is still a record for most players from a single club starting a match for England. On March 9, 1935 Arsenal saw it’s largest ever attendance for a match versus Sunderland, counting 73,295 fans at Highbury. The Second World War would suspend all competitive football for the 1939-40 season, and Highbury was used as an ARP station (Air Raid Precautions), and had a bomb destroy the North Bank roof and setting fire to the terrace. With Highbury taken Arsenal played their home matches at White Hart Lane while football still continued, although the matches do not count in official statistics as star players would play as ‘guests’ for various clubs when not in the armed forces. The war claimed nine first team Arsenal players, the most of any club in the top flight. Arsenal were also afflicted with a heavy financial burden of repairing their war damaged stadium, and consequently struggled when regular club football began once again in 1946, finishing 13th. Tom Whittaker took over as manager and won the League title in the 1947-48 season. They would then win the FA Cup in 1949-50, a 2-0 win over Liverpool. After nearly winning the Double in the 51-52 season, but failing in both competitions, Arsenal won their 7th League title the following year in what was one
of the closest title races ever, narrowly beating Preston North End only on goal average. The title would ultimately prove to be Arsenal’s last trophy for seventeen long years. Tom Whittaker would pass away in 1956, and Arsenal would try and fail with Jack Crayston, George Swindin and Billy Wright as managers, generally finishing mid-table, and having to endure Tottenham winning the double in 1961. On May 5, 1966 Highbury would see it’s lowest ever attendance be recorded with 4,554 in the stands, and having only one player in England’s 1966 World Cup winning squad, a far cry from the successful and prosperous times under Chapman and Whittaker. Wright, then the manager, was fired and the Arsenal board made the odd appointment of their club physiotherapist Bertie Mee to replace him. The appointment of Bertie Mee was so surprising that he himself requested to return to his old role if he proved unsuccessful after one year. Alongside assistant Dave Sexton, Mee promoted players from the youth team, boys who would become household names in Charlie George, John Radford, and Ray Kennedy. Alongside Frank McLintock and Peter Shorey, they reached the League Cup in 1968 and 1969, but losing each one. They managed to make it into Europe for the 1970 Inter-Cities Fairs Cup however, winning it and ending their long trophy drought. The 1970-71 campaign then came, in which Arsenal recorded their first double winning campaign where they won the FA Cup and the League title, winning the league by defeating Tottenham at White Hart Lane on the last day, and defeating Liverpool 2-1 in extra time at Wembley. (And *we* complain about six years. Try 17 and then let’s talk crisis) Sadly the double winning side was broken up shortly after this, and after finishing 16th and 17, Bertie Mee gave his resignation.
Terry Neill would be appointed manager, and his time at the helm witnessed the strong emergence of an Irish core of Liam Brady, Pat Rice, Frank Stapleton, Pat Jennings, and David O’Leary which gave Arsenal a still-strong following amongst the Irish. While Neill’s time at the club was in the midst of the Liverpool dominance, he still managed to direct the club to three FA Cup finals in 1978, 79, 80 but only winning it in 79, when Alan Sunderland won the match in injury time to record a now-famous win. The 1979-80 season saw Arsenal play a record breaking 70 matches and reaching two finals, the FA Cup loss to West Ham and losing the finals in Europe to Valencia on penalties. The summer of 1980 saw Liam Brady leave for Juventus and apart from 1982-83, Arsenal continued to make the top four, but never looked like winning anything. The lost both Cup semi-finals that year and and Terry Neill struggled to manage the club, arguing with key players as a drinking culture immersed itself at Arsenal. After losing to Third Division Walsall in the League Cup, Neill was fired in Decemeber 1983 and replaced with Don Howe, under whom Arsenal would fare no better. And when Howe heard the board had approached Terry Venables (then at Barcelona) he resigned and Steve Burtenshaw was named caretaker while the club searched for a replacement. Alex Ferguson, then at Aberdeen in Scotland, was approached, but he rejected Arsenal and six month later would find himself at Manchester United.
In May 1986 former Arsenal player, George Graham was appointed manager of Arsenal. Graham would slowly sell off older players and promote from the youth team and was able to dictate a stronger sense of discipline at the club, something the previous managers had attempted and failed at. In Graham’s debut season, Arsenal was able to with the League Cup, coming from behind in the final against Liverpool with a double by Charlie Nichols. This was in the midst of a UEFA English ban for European competitions in relation to the Heysel disaster, and so Arsenal missed out on the 87-88 UEFA Cup.
The 87-88 campaign saw Arsenal lose the League Cup final to Luton Town, but Graham was building a squad that would continue to improve with their young defense coming together under captain Tony Adams, Lee Dixon, Steve Bould and Nigel Winterburn. This, buoyed by the terrific midfield of David Rocastle, Michael Thomas and Paul Merson and goal-scoring sensation Alan Smith, in 1989 Arsenal would finally win their first League title since 1971, and would do so in stunning fashion. Arsenal led the league since Christmas, but allowed Liverpool, who were going for the Double, to overtake them by losing to Derby County and drawing at home to Wimbeldon. The final match of the season was at Anfield and Arsenal were required to win by two goals in order to win the title. With 90 minutes gone, Arsenal were up 1-0 when this happened:
And Arsenal were League Champions. Arsenal would have to wait until the 1990-91 season to find success again, and had to do so despite losing two points after a on-field brawl with Manchester United at Old Trafford, and losing Tony Adams for four months when he was sent to prison for drunk driving in December that year. However, they only lost one league match the entire year, and won the title by seven points. After signing Ian Wright from Crystal Palace in 1991 and losing David Rocastle to Leeds United the year after, Arsenal became known as ‘Boring, boring Arsenal’ depending on their stout defense and the goal-scoring prowess of Wright to win games. The FA Premier League was then created for the 1992-93 season, in which Arsenal were one of the founding members, and became the first club to win the FA Cup and League Cup double. The following year Arsenal won their second European trophy, defeating Parma 1-0 in the Cup Winner’s Cup final in Copenhagen.
Arsenal were forced to sack George Graham February 1995 when it was found he had taken an illegal payment of a player. Bruce Rioch took over at Arsenal, who guided Arsenal to the Cup Winner’s Cup Final, but lost to Real Zaragoza from a 40 yarder in the 120 minute; a howler by David Seaman. The summer of 1995 saw him Rioch sign Dutchman Dennis Bergkamp, breaking the English transfer recorded at the time. He was sacked just before the 1996 season over a dispute about the transfer funds. Arsenal then made the audacious and obscure decision to hire Frenchman Arsene Wenger from Nagoya Grampus Eight in Japan to manage their club. Wenger changed the club, completely eliminating the drinking culture that was prevalent at the time, changing the diets and training methods of the players, and brought about a change in tactics. Wenger brought in unknown players such as Patrick Vieira, Nicolas Anelka, Emmanuel Petit and Marc Overmars in 1997 and with George Graham’s noturious defense, Wenger became the first foreign manager to win the 1997-98 League title. Arsenal won the Double that year, winning the FA Cup. Ian Wright left that summer, having broken Cliff Bastin’s goalscoring record, his tally at Arsenal ending at 185 goals. The next few years were trophy-barren at Arsenal, despite signing Freddie Ljungberg and Thierry Henry. The rivalry with Manchester United fired up 1998-99 however as Arsenal finished 2nd in the League to United, and lost the FA Cup semi-final replay in extra time to them as well. The next season Arsenal again finished second best to Manchester United, this time by 18 points, and lost the EUFA Cup final in 0-0 game that went to penalties in Copenhagen to Galatasaray. The 2000-01 season saw Arsenal finish 2nd yet again to Manchester United, and lost in the FA Cup to Liverpool; as well as losing on the ‘away goals rule’ in the Champions league quarter-finals to eventual finalist Valencia.
The 2001-02 season became memorable as Arsenal’s furious attacking side lead by Thierry Henry won the Double for a record-tying third time. Arsenal were the only club to score in every game of the League that season, and went unbeaten away from home. They defeated Manchester United in the FA Cup, before also beating Chelsea in the finals. The 2002-03 was notable when Arsenal became the first club in over 20 years to retain the FA Cup title when they defeated Southampton in the final, but lost out on the League title to United losing their final game of the season at home to Leeds. That Last match day defeat to Leeds would become Arsenal’s last loss for over a year, and the 2003-04 season saw the rise of the ‘Invincibles’ where they won 26 and drew 12 matches, finishing 11 points clear of Chelsea in second place. Preston North End in 1888-89 is the only other team to have ever completed such a feat.
The following season Arsenal extended their unbeaten run to 49 consecutive League matches, an English league football record, when they finally lost to Manchester United. They failed to win the title that year as the newly cash rich Chelsea finished 12 points ahead, but managed to win the FA Cup for their 3rd time in four years. The 2005-06 season was largely disappointing, and Arsenal barely managed to obtain fourth place and their Champions League spot when St. Totteringham’s day came on the very last match day when Sp*rs lost to West Ham and Arsenal won their last ever match at Highbury stadium over Wigan. In the Champions League however, Arsenal made it the Finals against Barcelona, but a silly red card to keeper Jens Lehmann early in the match had Arsenal desperately defend a 1-0 lead for most of the game, before two late goals by Barca took the title away. Arsenal completed the move from historic Highbury to the Emirates stadium July 2006. Highbury was limited to only 38,500 seats after standing was banned in English football, and with the club unable to expand the stadium and needing to increase revenue streams to compete with money-giant clubs like Chelsea and Manchester United, a move down the road to Ashburton Grove was made. To facilitate the move in a manner that did not destroy the club financially, Arsene Wenger was forced to sell off highly paid stars and transition the club with youngsters, while still managing to be highly competitive and keep the fans into the massive 60,000+ stadium. Since the move Arsenal have stayed in the Champions League, qualifying for the competition for 14 years in a row, and have remained competitive in the Premier league, but ultimately collapsing the final months of the campaigns. December 11, 2011 saw Arsenal play at home and marked Arsenal’s 125 year in existence, and Arsenal celebrated the occasion the only way they know how; with style and class. The great-great-grandson of Fred Beardsley, the man who sourced the Arsenal original kit, assisted Vic Akers with the club’s kits and was brought onto the pitch in the pre-game ceremony. Supporters’ Stories were installed on benches outside the Armoury. A sixpence was thrown by referee Howard Webb at kick-off. Inside the players’ tunnel, celebrations of the 5-3 over Chelsea, and Henri Lansbury Sp*rs goal have been included on the walls. Arsenal had the Royal Artillery and Orchestra playing outside the stadium. The 1970s greats Bob Wilson, Charlie George, Frank McLintock, John Radford and Terry Neill were all introduced onto the Emirates pitch, followed by David O’Leary, Paul Davis, George Graham, Alan Smith, Anders Limpar and Ian Wright. Members of the Invincibles then took to the pitch, Ray Parlour, Robert Pires, Jens Lehmann, Lee Dixon, Lauren and Thierry Henry showed up. The great-grandchildren of founder David Danskin carried the matchball to begin the game. They even ensured there was a cannon alongside side the pitch.
Perhaps the best part of the weekend was the Friday prior, when Arsenal unveiled the statues of Herbert Chapman, Tony Adams and Thierry Henry outside the Stadium. So many greats could have been chosen, but it’s difficult to argue with the man who revolutionized football in the 1930s, the winning-est club captain, and the Arsenal’s record goal-scorer.
May there be more greatness to come for the beloved and storied club.
FA Cup Winners (10) 1930 Beat Huddersfield Town 2-0 1936 Beat Sheffield United 1-0 1950 Beat Liverpool 2-0 1971 Beat Liverpool 2-1 1979 Beat Manchester United 3-2 1993 Beat Sheffield Wednesday 2-1 1998 Beat Newcastle United 2-0 2002 Beat Chelsea 2-0 2003 Beat Southampton 1-0 2005 Beat Manchester Utd 5-4 on penalties (after 0-0 draw)
League Cup Winners (2) 1987 Beat Liverpool 2-1 1993 Beat Sheffield Wednesday 2-1
European Nights 1970 European Fairs Cup winners beating Anderlecht of Belgium 4-3 on aggregate. 1980 Cup Winners� Cup finalists losing on penalties to Valencia of Spain in Brussels. 1994 Cup Winners� Cup winners beating Parma of Italy 1-0 in the final in Copenhagen. 1995 Cup Winners� Cup finalists losing 2-1 to Real Zaragoza of Spain after extra time in Paris. 2000 UEFA Cup finalists losing 4-1 on penalties to Galatasaray after a 0-0 draw and extra time in Copenhagen. 2006 UEFA Champions League finalists losing 2-1 to Barcelona of Spain in Paris.
Arsenal Ladies' Honours
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UEFA Women' Cup Winners 2007
National Premier League 1992/93, 1994/95, 1996/97, 2000/01, 2001/02, 2003/04, 2004/05, 2006/07
National League Cup 1992, 1993, 1994, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2005, 2007
WFA Cup 1993, 1995, 1998, 1999, 2001, 2004, 2007
FA Womens' Community Shield Winners (3+1 shared) 2000 (shared with Charlton Athletic), 2001, 2005, 2006
London County FA Women's Cup Winners (6) 1995, 1996, 1997, 2000, 2004, 2007 Beat Millwall 2-0
National League South 1991/92
London Senior Cup 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 2000, 2004
Youth Honours
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FA Premier Youth League 1997/98
FA National Academy PLAY-OFF Final Under-17s: 1999/00 Under-19s: 2001/02
South East Counties League 1991
FA Youth Cup 1966, 1971, 1988, 1994, 2000, 2001
Southern Junior Cup 1956, 1971, 1984, 1991, 1998
This post has been edited by liez: May 14 2012, 12:16 AM
Heard from other thread that he got the card when he elbowed Tevez and got the red card, then kick Aguero in the arse and tries to head butt Vincent Kompany
Heard from other thread that he got the card when he elbowed Tevez and got the red card, then kick Aguero in the arse and tries to head butt Vincent Kompany
I would like to thank Yossi for his contributions. What an outstanding professional. He was only on loan but he showed way more hunger and passion today than most.
WTF!!! MC WON?!?!?!? I thoight I saw the score of QPR 2-1 MC when i passed by the mamak just now and it was already like 80'? and MC WON!!???!?!? Congratz them then.
I am sorry guys, was dragged by sis last minute to celebrate mother's day for my mum. Heart was pumping so fast as there are no internet at Hakka restaurant nearby Imbi.
Anyway.... THIRD POSITION SECURED!!!
This post has been edited by liez: May 14 2012, 12:22 AM
Clever of him to bait the other Man City players to agrrevate him. Luckily, none of them took the bait, otherwise we might see more red cards coming their way. Hahahaa....
If Chelsea wins UCL, we are going to play for UCL qualifier right?
It means we have a chance to lose there. Scenario 2:
If Bayern wins UCL, we are going to have an auto-qualification and Spuds will need to win in the qualifier to qualify for stage group. Which scenario would you like? I think I'm going to go with scenario 2.
chelsea menang or kalah, kita tetap qualify, only spurs je yang affected lah
If Chelsea wins UCL, we are going to play for UCL qualifier right?
It means we have a chance to lose there. Scenario 2:
If Bayern wins UCL, we are going to have an auto-qualification and Spuds will need to win in the qualifier to qualify for stage group. Which scenario would you like? I think I'm going to go with scenario 2.
of course Bayern to win! Chelsea win, they'll get the automatic slot leaving us with the playoff.
However, if Chelsea win the Champions League final against Bayern Munich, the team finishing fourth no longer qualifies for next season's competition. Instead, they will play in the Europa League, along with the club finishing fifth, as Chelsea's spot in the competition for winning the FA Cup is reallocated.
kita memang sudah layak la, spurs je problem if chelsea win, so hope chelsea win then boleh tendang spuds main europa
What a season, from 17th position, we were beaten by Liverpool at home, the last time which was in 1991, 21 years ago. Then we were thrashed 8-2 by Manchester United in Old Trafford. Beaten by Spurs.... We came back stronger and finished at 3rd position at the end! Hope for a even better position next season!
What a season, from 17th position, we were beaten by Liverpool at home, the last time which was in 1991, 21 years ago. Then we were thrashed 8-2 by Manchester United in Old Trafford. Beaten by Spurs.... We came back stronger and finished at 3rd position at the end! Hope for a even better position next season!
We die die to secure that spot is to ensure we are in UCL regardless if Chelsea win or lose,no?
However, if Chelsea win the Champions League final against Bayern Munich, the team finishing fourth no longer qualifies for next season's competition. Instead, they will play in the Europa League, along with the club finishing fifth, as Chelsea's spot in the competition for winning the FA Cup is reallocated.
can someone go beat the sht out of nasri's head? he couldve won and at the same time be honourable, but no, he wanted to diss sht to his old club. congratulations, screw you Nasri.
can someone go beat the sht out of nasri's head? he couldve won and at the same time be honourable, but no, he wanted to diss sht to his old club. congratulations, screw you Nasri.
yeah,we won!!! champions league confirmed,no matter what happens in the CL final!!!now can buy players much earlier,but sad nasri won trophy before arsenal,he doesn't deserve it,only clichy n kolo toure deserved it...Huhuhu
UEFA subsequently ruled that the defending champions qualify for the competition the following year regardless of their domestic league placing. However, for those leagues with four entrants in the Champions League, this means that if the Champions League winner falls outside of its domestic league's top four, it will qualify at the expense of the fourth-placed team in the league.
Titleholder 2.03 The UEFA Champions League titleholder is guaranteed a place in the group stage even if it does not qualify for the competition through its domestic championship.
Titleholder 2.03 The UEFA Champions League titleholder is guaranteed a place in the group stage even if it does not qualify for the competition through its domestic championship.
damn...just saw nasri's interview during the trophy presentation...he says he made the right decision....but was happy to hear that the bet he won which was 10000 euros will be given out to a charity of his choosing...but still he's a prick!!! hahaha.....
manu lost d title in just few sec left. feeling was like 98/99 when we were ahead manu by just sec to go. still remember everyone was waiting the final result from manu.
L0L.. do you know what is trophies?? Go google how many Cesc won since leaving Arsenal
I can add more, in addition to that "GOLD" BPL title Clichy won he also got an FA Cup medal in 04/05. Also the 04 Community Shield. So how many cups has he won with City so far vs with Arsenal?
Again fail troll is fail...please go back to your own thread before you make a further fool of yourself kthxbye
This post has been edited by sigheart: May 14 2012, 01:18 AM
I can add more, in addition to that "GOLD" BPL title Clichy won he also got an FA Cup medal in 04/05. Also the 04 Community Shield. So how many cups has he won with City so far vs with Arsenal?
Again fail troll is fail...please go back to your own thread before you make a further fool of yourself kthxbye
Good job for the players for securing 3rd spot. Many would not even dreamt of this at the worst start of our season. Tho from the last 2 matches, defence again was our Achilles heel. Hopefully we can get another defender..
Anyone can verify whether we have to go to qualifying stages if Chelsea win UCL?
So changing topic now to how long since Arsenal won as a whole as opposed to how many trophies Cesc, Nasri and Clichy won since leaving Arsenal from that pathetic troll attempt of yours. Well done son. Topic changed. You win. Congrats. Now go home and suck on some mommas milk.
Good job for the players for securing 3rd spot. Many would not even dreamt of this at the worst start of our season. Tho from the last 2 matches, defence again was our Achilles heel. Hopefully we can get another defender..
Anyone can verify whether we have to go to qualifying stages if Chelsea win UCL?
You will kena marah coz u ask this question.But I'll answer you Regardless of the outcome of the UCL Finals, we don't have to play in the play-offs.
AFC @ Seksyen 2, Wangsa Maju has broken their promise in broadcasting Arsenal match
Kononnya they thought our match is shown in HD channel. When I told them it's 813 and they verified it, they putar-belit said that they didn't know and earlier the Arsenal Fans Club ppl have already left. Now when I asked the boss to switch to Arsenal match, he said, "Sorry ya, there are already some people sitting here to watch MU & ManC matches. Cannot switch now or else it will be troublesome"
@#*@#)#*
bro make sure deal with owner or owner is arsenal fan..
"Szczesny has played injured in the last five weeks with a shoulder problem. He gets injected on the day of a game and plays, you cannot maintain your level like that forever. We just decided to do it because there was not long to go. If it was in the middle of the season we would have rested him."
That explained his performance for last few matches. And Wenger didn't trust Fabianski during this intense period.
on Van Persie's post-match celebrations… ''You can make of that what you want. If a player does not come out and celebrate you say he is a already gone and if he goes and celebrates with the fans that means he is saying goodbye. I believe it is positive.''
-Arsene Wenger
How was his celebration like anyway? o.O
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Congrats to us for securing 3rd spot. We've been played many games with a very poor performance including this final game and yet we still manage to climb to 3rd place.
I must say that this season is the worst season ever for Arsene and his Co. Lose some of key players, injuries here and there, but still the consistency is there. Top 4 every season, 15 times in a row in UCL and never miss its 2nd round match.
The only left for us is Trophy. I believe next season we can grab at least 1 silverware.. Believe, believe..
just now was watching game outside,when man utd fans found out qpr leading 2-1 so damn happy, then who knows change channel and found out man city 3-2 pula...
“I think if you look at the season as a whole, we lost only two of the last 16 games and created a fantastic run. In the end we finished with 70 points, which is respectable, and we qualify for the Champions League for the 15th consecutive year. Of course we are very proud of that, especially this season having started where we started. We had problems getting over the line and you could see that again today.” — Arsene Wenger on sealing third place
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No doubt after their winning, City will splash their cash to sign any of top scouted players around the world. And some of the best players out there will think 'money first, football later'.
With the power of their money, we will have to rely on the player himself. Join us because of our playing style, or leave us.
“I think if you look at the season as a whole, we lost only two of the last 16 games and created a fantastic run. In the end we finished with 70 points, which is respectable, and we qualify for the Champions League for the 15th consecutive year. Of course we are very proud of that, especially this season having started where we started. We had problems getting over the line and you could see that again today.” — Arsene Wenger on sealing third place
Wenger should seriously work something out of our defensive line. Look at this stats:
Goals scored: Man City 93 Man Utd 89 Arsenal 74 Spu*s 66
Goals against: Man City 29 Man Utd 33 Everton 40 Liverpool 40 Spu*s 41 Chelsea 46 Sunderland 46 Arsenal 49 Newcastle 51
Attacking-wise, we are third in the league, just behind MU Defensive-wise...just look at the stats and all the goals we conceded against the smaller teams
and I believe this situation has not changed much since 4-5 seasons ago, with the exception on 07-08 season when we nearly there before everyone screwed it up after the Eduardo incident
City deserve to win the title, simply because they were the best. Man U's just not good enough, which is evident by their Champs League performance. Arsenal still makes it into the top 4. Credit to Wenger for his consistency, but an overhaul is still needed to challenge for the title/Europe. Chelsea are getting old. But when push comes to shove, they've still got the goods to make the Champs League Final. Liverpool still have their pride for winning the Carling Cup, their only saving grace for having one of the worst home forms of the league.
ok, finally understand the qualification rules after looking at the qualification table in the appendix of the rule book. there will be 22 teams for automatic qualification including the title holder. means, from England, there will be 3 spots from the BPL and another if Chelsea win the CL. so, yea, we are indeed safe.
but no matter what, I WON'T BE SUPPORTING CHELSEA FOR CHAMPIONS LEAGUE.
I'm gonna miss Yossi, his attitude, work rate and performances in the last few games has really grown on me. He is only on loan but I felt he was our MOTM in arguably one of our most important games of the season today and the hunger and desire he has shown really speaks volumes. What an absolute professional.
I personally don't mind if we sign him on a permanent basis but my gut feeling tells me Arsene won't with the Ox expected to play a bigger role next season and the return of Miyaichi.
All the best in the future for Yossi and I hope he leaves the Russian mob so that he could get the regular football he deserves.
I'm gonna miss Yossi, his attitude, work rate and performances in the last few games has really grown on me. He is only on loan but I felt he was our MOTM in arguably one of our most important games of the season today and the hunger and desire he has shown really speaks volumes. What an absolute professional.
I personally don't mind if we sign him on a permanent basis but my gut feeling tells me Arsene won't with the Ox expected to play a bigger role next season and the return of Miyaichi.
All the best in the future for Yossi and I hope he leaves the Russian mob so that he could get the regular football he deserves.
This, but i didn't realize Benny was 32 till some time last week that alone could be a factor that Wenger wont sign him on a perma basis unless he comes real cheap or free? (not sure how the transfer and contract works for benny) anyways, one can only wish him the best for things to come
#Arsenal still best team in North London. United not even best team in Manchester.
Troll Piers.
QUOTE(smellyfish @ May 14 2012, 12:59 AM)
Bouchra
Now Arsene can we bring Titi back again ?
QUOTE(turtle85 @ May 14 2012, 02:12 AM)
I dont think he really show the Love, true gunner never think want to leave this club until they prove their self, like Thiery Henry. Sigh....
Have you not followed this season close enough? Here is a man who pretty much singled handedly dragged us to 3rd place, united the dressing room, took care of the young players, and became pretty much Mr Arsenal since Thierry Henry left. Not even Cesc Fabregas had the same effect as Robin did in terms of representing Arsenal's image.
Have you not followed this season close enough? Here is a man who pretty much singled handedly dragged us to 3rd place, united the dressing room, took care of the young players, and became pretty much Mr Arsenal since Thierry Henry left. Not even Cesc Fabregas had the same effect as Robin did in terms of representing Arsenal's image.
agree,
“I’ve been playing here for eight years and love this club. Regardless of what happens.” — Robin van Persie
I'm gonna miss Yossi, his attitude, work rate and performances in the last few games has really grown on me. He is only on loan but I felt he was our MOTM in arguably one of our most important games of the season today and the hunger and desire he has shown really speaks volumes. What an absolute professional.
I personally don't mind if we sign him on a permanent basis but my gut feeling tells me Arsene won't with the Ox expected to play a bigger role next season and the return of Miyaichi.
All the best in the future for Yossi and I hope he leaves the Russian mob so that he could get the regular football he deserves.
since the beginning of the season, when I saw Arsene signed him on loan from Chelsea, I knew he is going to help us somehow directly or indirectly. He was once one of the best player in Liverpool and its just unfortunate he had to go from club to club and not getting a regular role. He will be a good back up if we signed him imo. THIS GUY CAN PLAY!
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oh the irony... the opposite emotion effect.
QUOTE(vanpersie91 @ May 14 2012, 08:24 AM)
Err...add me into the list too Gooners since 2005.
QUOTE(quineMc @ May 14 2012, 02:25 AM)
Bro liez..add me to the list plz...gooner since 2000.
Now Arsene can we bring Titi back again ? Have you not followed this season close enough? Here is a man who pretty much singled handedly dragged us to 3rd place, united the dressing room, took care of the young players, and became pretty much Mr Arsenal since Thierry Henry left. Not even Cesc Fabregas had the same effect as Robin did in terms of representing Arsenal's image.
No doubt that he did the great job with us for this season, but then if he decided to leave Arsenal i dont see how he LOVE Arsenal.
Saying so coz i dont think his job at Arsenal are finish nor as Arsenal Captain. MrArsenal? i dont think so, Thierry Henry n the real MrArsenal Tony Adam are true gunner, Look at what they bring to the club be4 thinking of moving to to Spain (Henry)? When Thierry decided to move on i think all of us also feel he deserve to go to Spain n move forward, with Fab we always wanted him to stay n feel he somehow ditch us b4 he done his job as Cap and repay the faith that Wenger show to them.
Just my 2cent... i think for the past history show that Arsenal great player always win smth with the team n show really loyalty n faith to be true gunner. If player help the team to win championship n leave, Salute! coz the job is done, 6years no trophy n decide to leave? true gunner?
Really an exciting ride we had this season, even for Arsenal fans like all of us here.
Despite not winning a trophy, the feeling of being nothing becoming the 3rd best is really a rewarding feeling!
Supporting a football club is not only for the moment of winning trophies. It's about going through thick and thin with the club, giving support to the club especially when the club needs it the most and judge the club reasonably. Last but not the least, enjoy the game and what the club has brought to us.
Well, it's always easy to become different football fans/supporters every years depending on who is the champions or potential champions, but I won't - if you do not know why, you simply do not understand football or what it means by being a fans/supporter ~
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Really an exciting ride we had this season, even for Arsenal fans like all of us here.
Despite not winning a trophy, the feeling of being nothing becoming the 3rd best is really a rewarding feeling!
Supporting a football club is not only for the moment of winning trophies. It's about going through thick and thin with the club, giving support to the club especially when the club needs it the most and judge the club reasonably. Last but not for all, enjoy the game and what the club has brought to us.
Well, it's always easy to become different football fans/supporters every years depending on who is the champions or potential champions, but I won't - if you do not know why, you simply do not understand football or what it means by being a fans/supporter ~
+1
Even we didnt win any trophies 6season, i still go Mamak scream inside my heart that Arsenal will win back the League!! Gooooner...
No doubt that he did the great job with us for this season, but then if he decided to leave Arsenal i dont see how he LOVE Arsenal.
Saying so coz i dont think his job at Arsenal are finish nor as Arsenal Captain. MrArsenal? i dont think so, Thierry Henry n the real MrArsenal Tony Adam are true gunner, Look at what they bring to the club be4 thinking of moving to to Spain (Henry)? When Thierry decided to move on i think all of us also feel he deserve to go to Spain n move forward, with Fab we always wanted him to stay n feel he somehow ditch us b4 he done his job as Cap and repay the faith that Wenger show to them.
Just my 2cent... i think for the past history show that Arsenal great player always win smth with the team n show really loyalty n faith to be true gunner. If player help the team to win championship n leave, Salute! coz the job is done, 6years no trophy n decide to leave? true gunner?
We'll have to disagree here. I don't think anyone can blame Robin if he chooses to leave for a bigger club that offers a higher chance of winning trophies. After all, if he wasn't ambitious we would probably turn around and accuse him for being complacent and unmotivated.
There is not a single doubt that he has been the ultimate role model for the club and has played his heart out this season, or any other season before this. While being off the pitch, he has behaved in a professional way - praising and protecting his team mates, instilling belief, staying positive, organising bonding activities etc.
That's all we can ask from a player, and if this doesn't prove that he is a true gunner, nothing will. Not even Thierry Henry, who is quite a limelight hogger (can't blame him, he is indeed that charismatic), offered more in terms of team spirit. And as for Fabs, I guess most of us loved him for his quality and professionalism but personally I don't think I have as much affection for him as compared what I have for Titi, Robin, Dennis, and of course Bobby.
We'll have to disagree here. I don't think anyone can blame Robin if he chooses to leave for a bigger club that offers a higher chance of winning trophies. After all, if he wasn't ambitious we would probably turn around and accuse him for being complacent and unmotivated.
There is not a single doubt that he has been the ultimate role model for the club and has played his heart out this season, or any other season before this. While being off the pitch, he has behaved in a professional way - praising and protecting his team mates, instilling belief, staying positive, organising bonding activities etc.
That's all we can ask from a player, and if this doesn't prove that he is a true gunner, nothing will. Not even Thierry Henry, who is quite a limelight hogger (can't blame him, he is indeed that charismatic), offered more in terms of team spirit. And as for Fabs, I guess most of us loved him for his quality and professionalism but personally I don't think I have as much affection for him as compared what I have for Titi, Robin, Dennis, and of course Bobby.
Then let us all wait for the good news that our Beloved RVP leave Arsenal coz he love Arsenal and done his job in professional way.
We'll have to disagree here. I don't think anyone can blame Robin if he chooses to leave for a bigger club that offers a higher chance of winning trophies. After all, if he wasn't ambitious we would probably turn around and accuse him for being complacent and unmotivated.
There is not a single doubt that he has been the ultimate role model for the club and has played his heart out this season, or any other season before this. While being off the pitch, he has behaved in a professional way - praising and protecting his team mates, instilling belief, staying positive, organising bonding activities etc.
That's all we can ask from a player, and if this doesn't prove that he is a true gunner, nothing will. Not even Thierry Henry, who is quite a limelight hogger (can't blame him, he is indeed that charismatic), offered more in terms of team spirit. And as for Fabs, I guess most of us loved him for his quality and professionalism but personally I don't think I have as much affection for him as compared what I have for Titi, Robin, Dennis, and of course Bobby.
#3 OK... so now RVP please stay!!!! AW sign M'Vila and i think we're ready for nex season... btw, any news on Sagna injuires?? Las nite, Jekinson was really poor...
you better remove your sig then if you can't even have faith on RVP
Com'n dude, pls read it properly!!
Its just my 2cent, why so serious? If you think he deserve the respect for thinking to leave Arsenal so be it, no hard feeling. My support for Arsenal is unquestionable, i really think as Goonner, we need to so faith to the team, not as individual, if a simple Loyalty toward the club is in doubt, what are the different between you, RVP with na$ri? Just go play/support MC or MU better.
Done discussing this issue, hope all of us move on. Pray he sign for us in coming week!
"We'll sit down next week. Arsenal is a massive club, whatever happens I'll always love this club." RVP
This quote of RVP is like saying i m 70-30 will leave this club, whatever happen i'll always love this club!! I dont think he really show the Love, true gunner never think want to leave this club until they prove their self, like Thiery Henry. Sigh....
he didn't even say that he'll be leaving. he said that he always love the club. if he want to leave the club, why would he even want to sit down with Wenger and the board members next week to discuss his future? he could just refuse to sit with them and wait for offer just like what Flamini and Nasri did. all this while RVP already said that he'll discuss about it at the end of the season and all along he mentioned about how he love the club, how important the club to him. he didn't give a slight indication of he want bigger salary nor leaving the club for glory. why can't you believe him?
sorry i'm a bit serious with this but i'm tired of seeing fellow fans that don't have any trust on the club, manager or players.
Its just my 2cent, why so serious? If you think he deserve the respect for thinking to leave Arsenal so be it, no hard feeling. My support for Arsenal is unquestionable, i really think as Goonner, we need to so faith to the team, not as individual, if a simple Loyalty toward the club is in doubt, what are the different between you, RVP with na$ri? Just go play/support MC or MU better. Done discussing this issue, hope all of us move on. Pray he sign for us in coming week!
Chill... Opinion differs. Personality differs. So does way of expression. Some express it alil more sarcastic than the other, some are more direct, some are indirect, some with humors and some are with huge impact. The message sent across comes to a same conclusion.
But like I said, sign or not. I don't really concern 'too much'. We may lose him some days later if not for now. Again I said he is 29 now, 30 next season. He came to us as a 21 years old lad. From 21 to 29 he spend his 'entire' career playing for us. Its just sarks that he didn't come a season earlier so being part of the invincible like Clichy. So a player spent his entire career with us, not blaming or complaining for the lack of trophy, even if he goes, we should thank him for all his time with us. He didn't get mega bucks from us, only 90k a week thats even lower than some 2nd 3rd class player of city, nasri gets his double, balotelli is even more than him. money aside because I believed V.Persie is not the type that hungers for money. We should relieve ourselves for pressuring him to SIGN SIGN SIGN the contract. Instead, if he really DOES go, we should wished him all the best and go to a club that can confirm winning league titles seasons after seasons like Borrusia Dortmund, Real Madrid and Juventus or Milan. He is already 30 next year, as far as I hope he retired in Arsenal like Bergkamp I do hope he gets more silverware and medals before he retires. Thats in my opinion.
look back at what you wrote. he didn't even say that he'll be leaving. he said that he always love the club. if he want to leave the club, why would he even want to sit down with Wenger and the board members next week to discuss his future? he could just refuse to sit with them and wait for offer just like what Flamini and Nasri did. all this while RVP already said that he'll discuss about it at the end of the season and all along he mentioned about how he love the club, how important the club to him. he didn't give a slight indication of he want bigger salary nor leaving the club for glory. why can't you believe him?
sorry i'm a bit serious with this but i'm tired of seeing fellow fans that don't have any trust on the club, manager or players.
Read back, i didnt said he said want to leave, i said he probaly thinking to leave..
Of course he wont indicate that he want Bigger Salary, but if Arsenal didnt offer him bigger salary you think he wont leave? Arsenal n AW already show we still very ambitious to win the League next year by singing Podolski and more to came, what can RVP ask for? what do you think it will discuss? of course $$..
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QUOTE(liez @ May 14 2012, 10:45 AM)
Chill... Opinion differs. Personality differs. So does way of expression. Some express it alil more sarcastic than the other, some are more direct, some are indirect, some with humors and some are with huge impact. The message sent across comes to a same conclusion.
But like I said, sign or not. I don't really concern 'too much'. We may lose him some days later if not for now. Again I said he is 29 now, 30 next season. He came to us as a 21 years old lad. From 21 to 29 he spend his 'entire' career playing for us. Its just sarks that he didn't come a season earlier so being part of the invincible like Clichy. So a player spent his entire career with us, not blaming or complaining for the lack of trophy, even if he goes, we should thank him for all his time with us. He didn't get mega bucks from us, only 90k a week thats even lower than some 2nd 3rd class player of city, nasri gets his double, balotelli is even more than him. money aside because I believed V.Persie is not the type that hungers for money. We should relieve ourselves for pressuring him to SIGN SIGN SIGN the contract. Instead, if he really DOES go, we should wished him all the best and go to a club that can confirm winning league titles seasons after seasons like Borrusia Dortmund, Real Madrid and Juventus or Milan. He is already 30 next year, as far as I hope he retired in Arsenal like Bergkamp I do hope he gets more silverware and medals before he retires. Thats in my opinion.
I agree with "I don't really concern 'too much'. We may lose him some days later if not for now. Again I said he is 29 now, 30 next season."
This post has been edited by turtle85: May 14 2012, 10:49 AM
Read back, i didnt said he said want to leave, i said he probaly thinking to leave..
Of course he wont indicate that he want Bigger Salary, but if Arsenal didnt offer him bigger salary you think he wont leave? Arsenal n AW already show we still very ambitious to win the League next year by singing Podolski and more to came, what can RVP ask for? what do you think it will discuss? of course $$..
Added on May 14, 2012, 10:49 am I agree with "I don't really concern 'too much'. We may lose him some days later if not for now. Again I said he is 29 now, 30 next season."
Joey Barton twitter: Can do nothing but apologise to the players and the fans. Still don't think its a sending off. Tried to take 1 of their players with me....
as i suspected.. he purposely kicked Aguero in hope somebody from Man City camp will react to his action, thus even out the sent off. The same tactic he did to Abou and Diaby.
Joey Barton twitter: Can do nothing but apologise to the players and the fans. Still don't think its a sending off. Tried to take 1 of their players with me....
as i suspected.. he purposely kicked Aguero in hope somebody from Man City camp will react to his action, thus even out the sent off. The same tactic he did to Abou and Diaby.
Added on May 14, 2012, 12:57 pmSurprisingly Nigel De Jong and Balotelli able to composed themselves. Mancini did a great job maintaining his player mentality. Focus on the match.
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Joey Barton twitter: Can do nothing but apologise to the players and the fans. Still don't think its a sending off. Tried to take 1 of their players with me....
as i suspected.. he purposely kicked Aguero in hope somebody from Man City camp will react to his action, thus even out the sent off. The same tactic he did to Abou and Diaby.
not until he resolve things with StarGhazzer (or was it someone else? forgot already) and the rest of us.
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QUOTE(Casanova88 @ Jul 7 2011, 04:15 PM)
Too early to say. Things might change. Just like how River Plate got relegated this season from the Argentina top league. It could also happen to Arsenal soon than later.
Nothing is guarantee here.
Time for Arsenal to change for better. Improvement is vital here
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Statistical analysis have shown strong correlation between league success and income.
River Plate was in deep debt.
It also never ended up in relegation places in the last three seasons. It's worst finish was 14th out of 20 and it actually got 4th place is this year's Apertura half.
It was only relegated because of the dumb 3-year points averaging system used to relagte teams.
The best trolls use wit and intelligence to wind people up. I expect better.
QUOTE(Casanova88 @ Jul 7 2011, 05:11 PM)
LOL.. Yea. You can expect better at the end of 2012 season when Arsenal gets relegated. Then we will discuss about this. Keep it on your mind.
QUOTE(minority @ Jul 7 2011, 06:20 PM)
Put your money where your mouth is. You bet something (doesn't have to be money) and the bet goes in the sig.
If Arsenal is not relegated by 2012, I want a photo of you (without disguises) holding a photo of Wenger and a cuecard saying, "Wenger took me up the Arse" and "and I was gunning for it" on the second line.
Name your wager.
Deal?
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apparently Wojciech have been not training for 5 weeks, and needed painkiller to get through recent matches. #hero
dan saya ingin mengaku yang saya teramat salah mengenai Yossi. saya berpendapat perpindahan dia kepada kita ialah tidak berguna. rupa2nya beliau sangat pandai bermain bola dan banyak memberi impak positif kepada pasukan kita
I hope Yossi can get to stay with us (providing as backup). A true hardworking professional even though he's a loanee. Scoring some important goals when we need'em.
My hats off to him. Wishing him all the best in future wherever he wants to go.
Gervinho and Podolski case were "very the confirmed rumors", not that i'm really bragging but i even put my money on them joining us
that is why me and some others always mentioned that the reliability of the media/source in spreading rumors and how they quote sentences, gives a lot of intel on how true the story really is thus, the reason why some of us here really dislike people going all in over source from goal.com and certain other sites
I may be wrong but, i do think YannVilla rumors is rather weak and premature based on what i see from the current source out there,perhaps give it another day or 2 id be really surprised if YannVilla transfer is done within the day
hei liez,kindly please put spoiler...later spurs fans get rage
I dont think need le, this is our thread. I meant no offense to anyone but just to show the progress, from 17th position lost to Liverpool at home, MU 8-2, Blackburn 4-3 to a mid table team after signature of the new players, and challenged for the no.6 spot held by Liverpool, then went for the top 4 spot when Chelsea has some internal problems, losing matches after matches, and stucked at the 4th and 5th position when Tottenham was so strong holding the position, in just 3 weeks, the 10 points gap became negative for them after our 7 win streak beating Tottenham, Liverpool, and Newcastle after conceded 1st. Though was caught in the late 4 winless streak but still we managed to make it at the 3rd.
I dont think need le, this is our thread. I meant no offense to anyone but just to show the progress, from 17th position lost to Liverpool at home, MU 8-2, Blackburn 4-3 to a mid table team after signature of the new players, and challenged for the no.6 spot held by Liverpool, then went for the top 4 spot when Chelsea has some internal problems, losing matches after matches, and stucked at the 4th and 5th position when Tottenham was so strong holding the position, in just 3 weeks, the 10 points gap became negative for them after our 7 win streak beating Tottenham, Liverpool, and Newcastle after conceded 1st. Though was caught in the late 4 winless streak but still we managed to make it at the 3rd.
fkin cool shield! if this is the community shield i would want Arsenal to win it seasons after seasons
I don't mind losing EPL title for this shield...
Imagine other's cabinet full of EPL trophy...
Ours filled with this AWESOME shield! Its big and shiny... A cabinet full of the shield!
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QUOTE(SGSuser @ May 14 2012, 07:43 PM)
mcm mcm definisi one...some say trophy must be cup, so weird...like tat world cup is not a cup liao lor huhue
hw much arsenal willing to sell ramsey to us?
world cup trophy is a trophy... rumors has it that there is a miniature 2 handed mug inside, But first have to remove the globe covering it. So i don't know la since I am not even close to look at it.
ramsey? I know what you want him for. Apparently this guy is even better...
6th August, penalty v Bournemouth - Chinook helicopter shot down in Afghanistan killing 38 people. 20th August, goal v Scunny - Red Arrow Crashes. 27th August, goal v Bury - Opera singer Salvatore Licitra crashes his scooter into a wall in Sicily. Later dies in hospital. 24th September, goal v Chesterfield - Nasa's UARS Satellite crashes out of the sky. 8th October penalty v Tranmere - Cessna carrying parachutists crashes in Australia. 5th November brace v Preston - pile up on M5. 14th January free kick v Wendies - Costa Concordia crashes into a rock and capsizes.
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1- Real Madrid are the first team to achieve 100 points out of all the european major leagues, breaking Barcelona's record of 99.
2- The most wins in a league season with 32 out of 38, breaking Barcelona's record of 31.
3- Most goals away from home with 51 goals, breaking Barcelon's record of 49.
4- Most wins away from home 16, breaking Barcelona's record of 14.
5- Most goals in a single La Liga season 121.
6- Cristiano is the only player to ever score against all la liga teams in one season (19 teams) (TO BAD HE DIDNT SCORE AN OWN GOAL,IF NOT HE WILL HAVE SCORED AGAINST ALL TEAM!!!)
7- Cristiano has scored 23 goals away from home. Another historical record.
8- The trident Cristiano Benzema and Higuan have scored 118 goals in all competitions beating Barcelona's record of 100 goals (Henry, Messi, Eto'o) The masters of football have beaten the masters of possession football.
this team is really historical.even without the UCL im definitely happy. they really gave their all.
Overall it's a good season for Arsenal but still not good enough.
Negative: - Trophy-less for 7th straight years - Nasri got the trophy 1st before Arsenal. This might lead RVP to leave Arsenal - Still lack of winning mentality at most of the times - The team lost more games this season in EPL compared to last season
Positive: - Majority of the players are matured - The squad has enough depth - The team collect more points this season in EPL compared to last season
Overall it's a good season for Arsenal but still not good enough.
Negative: - Trophy-less for 7th straight years - Nasri got the trophy 1st before Arsenal. This might lead RVP to leave Arsenal - Still lack of winning mentality at most of the times - The team lost more games this season in EPL compared to last season
Positive: - Majority of the players are matured - The squad has enough depth - The team collect more points this season in EPL compared to last season Hoping next season the team can win FA Cup.
well, bro, hardly see you giving such a good positive post. well done.
Overall it's a good season for Arsenal but still not good enough.
Negative: - Trophy-less for 7th straight years - Nasri got the trophy 1st before Arsenal. This might lead RVP to leave Arsenal - Still lack of winning mentality at most of the times - The team lost more games this season in EPL compared to last season
Positive: - Majority of the players are matured - The squad has enough depth - The team collect more points this season in EPL compared to last season Hoping next season the team can win FA Cup.
u said arsenal are going to be relegated...eat your word
Overall it's a good season for Arsenal but still not good enough.
Negative: - Trophy-less for 7th straight years - Nasri got the trophy 1st before Arsenal. This might lead RVP to leave Arsenal - Still lack of winning mentality at most of the times - The team lost more games this season in EPL compared to last season
Positive: - Majority of the players are matured - The squad has enough depth - The team collect more points this season in EPL compared to last season Hoping next season the team can win FA Cup.
Mu ni legeng bro.. kawe respek ah.. u same college with pat rice i know.
Overall it's a good season for Arsenal but still not good enough.
Negative: - Trophy-less for 7th straight years - Nasri got the trophy 1st before Arsenal. This might lead RVP to leave Arsenal - Still lack of winning mentality at most of the times - The team lost more games this season in EPL compared to last season
Positive: - Majority of the players are matured - The squad has enough depth - The team collect more points this season in EPL compared to last season Hoping next season the team can win FA Cup.
i thought u said arsenal would be relegated this season
Joey Barton twitter: Can do nothing but apologise to the players and the fans. Still don't think its a sending off. Tried to take 1 of their players with me....
as i suspected.. he purposely kicked Aguero in hope somebody from Man City camp will react to his action, thus even out the sent off. The same tactic he did to Abou and Diaby.
Oh, and in the meantime, I have been promoted to ‘skip’s wife’.
sarks that Fabregas did not stay in the team. I wonder how well the team can perform if there is Fabregas, Song, Arteta, Ox, Van Persie, Yossi and Rosicky is in the team.
Yeah! Hope Arsenal will sign another RB and LB. From the last match against West Brom, we could see that we were lacked of pace by both Jeckinson and Santos.
Any new on Bendner, Denilson, Vela, Charmark, Diaby & Ramsey? Any takers for them??? Clear our wagers for new players?
I think you need to take a chill pill on the guy I've highlighted. Come on. He's like what? 21 years old? He has shown some glimpse of potential this season (even after the horrible leg break) but also played badly most of the season. I think he needs some time or even a loan. Its like imagining Oxlade-Chamberlain flop next season and demanding him to be sold . Patience bro. Its not like Ramsey is 26-27 years old and will never have room for improvement...
I think you need to take a chill pill on the guy I've highlighted. Come on. He's like what? 21 years old? He has shown some glimpse of potential this season (even after the horrible leg break) but also played badly most of the season. I think he needs some time or even a loan. Its like imagining Oxlade-Chamberlain flop next season and demanding him to be sold . Patience bro. Its not like Ramsey is 26-27 years old and will never have room for improvement...
Ok sry my bad... Forgot 1 more Arshavin. Is there any movement on the transfer of these player?
Wenger on 'Invincibles' Boss discusses Premier League '20 Seasons' award By Rob Kelly
Arsène Wenger has revealed his pride at Arsenal’s ‘Invincibles’ being voted the best team of the Premier League era.
The 2003/04 title winners, who famously went 49 games unbeaten, were honoured in the League’s ’20 Season Awards’.
Wenger is delighted their achievement has been recognised and believes that the ‘Invincibles’ represent the level his current side must aim for.
“I am proud of [winning the award] and very happy because I told the players at the time they could achieve something special once we were champions by being invincible,” he told Arsenal Player.
“They did it, but at the time they did not realise how much it would mean in the future. I am very proud of that.
“My target is to get back to that level. I feel we are not far from coming back to fight for the championship, and let's hope we can show that next season.”
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Oh fck. Now this is as bad as the rumoured green piece of crap 2 years ago. Hopefully it's a smoke screen and we get something in yellow; last time we ended up getting the sweet yellow-maroon kit (with an awesome N98 jacket) after the green shit was leaked.
And I changed my mind. After seeing the new home kit with Poldi in it, it actually looks pretty decent. Still prefer just red and white though, but now I don't mind the dark blue anymore.
And I changed my mind. After seeing the new home kit with Poldi in it, it actually looks pretty decent. Still prefer just red and white though, but now I don't mind the dark blue anymore.
same with me bruh, lepas tengok podolski pakai nampak cun pulak
"I now hope the Arsenal fans can get on with their lives and forget me, they should celebrate their third-place achievement and I will focus on winning titles." Na$ri.
"I now hope the Arsenal fans can get on with their lives and forget me, they should celebrate their third-place achievement and I will focus on winning titles." Na$ri.
lulz before this you are nothing, kacang lupakan kulit, pui pui
And I changed my mind. After seeing the new home kit with Poldi in it, it actually looks pretty decent. Still prefer just red and white though, but now I don't mind the dark blue anymore.
all this european footballers with their physical attribute super fit with super nice skin complexion they would look good on anything
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DAFUQ is this again? It thrills me really. purple with black strips all over. What Nike think we are? Psychic element pokemon? And we will need 3rd kit since the purple color is close to red which will confuse the field when the other red or red strips team play with us on the same ground.
I f*ckin hate this c*nt, deeply from the bottom of my heart. I'm just waiting for the time he goes to a steep downhill in his career. I'm sensing next season.
But, there is a true point he said there,
"If all that I was interested in was money, the easiest decision would have been to stay at ArsenalI'm a gold digger c*nt and I know it, picking up my money every week and walking into the team. There are many people doing this right now at Arsenal."
The bold sentence is somewhat true. Need to get rid of these dead woods ASAP.
on wednesday RvP will go to AW house to talk about his future...ard 10.30 BST...
Is this really le Boss's house? If it is, can all the Arsenal fans in London go there and show their support for Robin?
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TROLOLOL... So funny...
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The origins of the blue (obsidian) design pays homage to several Dutch players who have played for Arsenal, in particularly Dennis Bergkamp and more recently Robin van Persie.
Bergkamp was an artist who combined grace with athleticism. A scorer of beautiful goals rather than a plentiful scorer, Bergkamp's best moments include the perfect hattrick against Leicester in 1997 as well as his astonishing pirouette at St James's Park in 2002.
van Persie came with a reputation as a rebel, but today he is no doubt the best striker for club and country. Originally lauded as the successor to Bergkamp due to his vision and creativity, van Persie has also shown that he can function as the main striker by scoring an amazing 37 goals in the 2011/2012 season.
The integration of the Dutch flag in the new home kit portrays the club's affection for Dutch players, and as recognition of their contributions in Arsenal's glorious history.
The rumoured purple-black away kit would be alright for a training kit, but no more than that. Just fkn give us a yellow kit, bloody Nike.
Aiyoh. You really believe that the club will let the public know about negotiation details? God. Our player contracts are always undisclosed, hence the numbers about wages and stuff are mere speculation by the media.
Just watched MC's match just now. Kinda reminded me of Liverpool Arsenal 1989. The league was won in the last minute of the match except that ours are more epic playing against each other while theirs played against other smaller teams.
I think few months ago AW did mentioned that Arsenal will not let go RVP even if he's not extends his current contract. Which mean Arsenal are ready to let him go for FREE next season if RVP do not sign any contract extension this summer.
I think few months ago AW did mentioned that Arsenal will not let go RVP even if he's not extends his current contract. Which mean Arsenal are ready to let him go for FREE next season if RVP do not sign any contract extension this summer.
Thats not going to happen... if citeh offer 30m pound, Wenger cannot said no to that. If yes then Na$ri wont be sold d.
Money is still Money... with that 30m Wenger can get player as good as RvP also.
somebody shoudl post what @gunnerblog is tweeting. #ArsenalLive Updates of current discussion between AW,IG ,RVP and his agent Darren Dein. for the Lulz
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In before, Gervinho holding a doll sticking it to his chest, holding the side of blanket/sleeping bag with 3 fingers and take pictar facing bottom right like some nihon kawaii girl.
Goalkeepers Robert Green (West Ham United) Joe Hart (Manchester City) John Ruddy (Norwich City)
Defenders Leighton Baines (Everton) Gary Cahill (Chelsea) Ashley Cole (Chelsea) Glen Johnson (Liverpool) Phil Jones (Manchester United) Joleon Lescott (Manchester City) John Terry (Chelsea)
Midfielders Gareth Barry (Manchester City) Stewart Downing (Liverpool) Steven Gerrard (Liverpool) Frank Lampard (Chelsea) James Milner (Manchester City) Scott Parker (Tottenham Hotspur) Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (Arsenal) Theo Walcott (Arsenal) Ashley Young (Manchester United)
Forwards Andy Carroll (Liverpool) Wayne Rooney (Manchester United) Daniel Welbeck (Manchester United) Jermain Defoe (Tottenham Hotspur)
not sure y nasri can still be that cocky,looking at the how he play in man city also not very good what, compare to last time with us..hmmm..but he always have attitude problem,last time in national team,then gallas
Well, fans will rage for first few months. Then Podolski will start to score few goals. Fans forget about rage. Podolski off-form awhile. Fans rage again.
Well, fans will rage for first few months. Then Podolski will start to score few goals. Fans forget about rage. Podolski off-form awhile. Fans rage again.
lol
This post has been edited by mohdkhairi91: May 17 2012, 12:09 AM
Damn, kagawa has met with SAF..hopefully he does not snuub a move there..
He is good addition to our club given us now not having a 'real' attacking midfielder or playmaker after the depature of Cesc. Ramsey can't replace Cesc at all at least not for the next 5 years.
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i read paper today hazard said he will move to manchester but do not state united or city
a month later he will be close in signing for City. 3 months later, barcelona signed him. I am sicked with all the rumors and speculations all these years. Look so metaphoric to me.
Like 2 seasons ago, he said 'joining Arsenal is my dream', 'I would really love to be a part of ARsenal'. Then after heavy rumors linking him to us for few months, Vermaelen joined us...
Same thing happen 1 season later.... heavily linked with us for 3 months, gave everyone high hopes for Cesc replacement, 3 months later his team mate Gervinho joined us.
So I don't think rumor even lightly now, for me its like... Ok, if you come its a bonus if you not, then its totally fine as everyone had gotten used to it.
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so funny I laughed my arse off for the pass 20 minutes.... hahahahahha
Like 2 seasons ago, he said 'joining Arsenal is my dream', 'I would really love to be a part of ARsenal'. Then after heavy rumors linking him to us for few months, Vermaelen joined us...
Same thing happen 1 season later.... heavily linked with us for 3 months, gave everyone high hopes for Cesc replacement, 3 months later his team mate Gervinho joined us.
So I don't think rumor even lightly now, for me its like... Ok, if you come its a bonus if you not, then its totally fine as everyone had gotten used to it.
haih..seem like van persie also want become kacang lupa kulit!
"tense discussion" the sun quote..
one season wonder...calculate back la arsenal give him 70k/week with only light training almost 3 years..almost every season injured and arsenal still behind him..
now after one season bang! and want leave? wtf!
yes,the sun news always extra hype, but always fast and almost true.
This post has been edited by s|dE: May 17 2012, 08:45 AM
dont force persie to stay..if he still not sign the paper,just sell him..he deserve better salary and title winning opportunities.. talented players come and go.. btw nasri should stop talking..i'm already losing respect to him..
somebody shoudl post what @gunnerblog is tweeting. #ArsenalLive Updates of current discussion between AW,IG ,RVP and his agent Darren Dein. for the Lulz
its been 4 years since 2008 i've follow the sun.. and even tho i know the news have extra hype..but its still reliable to me.. that why i put almost true.
arsenal.com is official news-don't include this official arsenal site within current rumors period
ni lagi sorang pasal duit blah dari arsenal, padahal dulu power gila, if he stay at arsenal, mesti dah jadi legend along side with henry, bergkamp and the others, i hate him now, frustrated
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Let us just wait on how much pay cut he willing to take
Man City doesn't really need him, so as Real Madrid. Only Sp*ds guarantees him a spot in the first team. No players like to shift teams every season, so its better to stay at one team you feel most comfortable with. Problem is, his wage is huge and teams need to be committed to pay his high transfer fee.
Its good Arsenal sold him off for good money, since now its Man City's problem. Although, his scoring rates are still incredible. 35 goals scored in all competition for Sp*ds this season. Except for last season where he only scored 14 goals, he has been consistently scoring 30+ goals every season. Its quite impressive if you ask me. Also, defenders and GK are always having a hard time against him, but cut him off from the midfields, and he'll be quite as a mouse throughout the whole game.
Signing of podolski was actually a sign that we are preparing for a departure of RVP. We cant guarantee that RVP going to stay. Juventus might attracts him best cause he's at his greatest form and italian clubs regards highly experienced players. He might be able to play top football for at least 4-5 years. i'd say RVP's departure is inevitable unless Arsenal wanna loose their prudence in spending. RVP has achieved his personal success by winning BPL Player of The Year and Golden Boots. Depends on the outcome and his performance in Euro 2012, he could be the wild horse for FIFA Player of The Year. That's the real test of his worthiness on world stage.
Signing of podolski was actually a sign that we are preparing for a departure of RVP. We cant guarantee that RVP going to stay. Juventus might attracts him best cause he's at his greatest form and italian clubs regards highly experienced players. He might be able to play top football for at least 4-5 years. i'd say RVP's departure is inevitable unless Arsenal wanna loose their prudence in spending. RVP has achieved his personal success by winning BPL Player of The Year and Golden Boots. Depends on the outcome and his performance in Euro 2012, he could be the wild horse for FIFA Player of The Year. That's the real test of his worthiness on world stage.
I don't see how the signing of Podolski is a sign that we are preparing for RVP to leave.
It's true we can't guarantee that RVP is going to stay but we also can't guarantee that RVP is going to leave isn't it?
RVP is want more $$$ thats no denied, but i think if Arsenal manage to meet his demand he will stay.
In mid season already got rumous citeh are preparing to make him the highest pay footballer in EPL with staggering 250k per week. thats why he want to wait till end of season to see what Arsenal are willing to pay. Brilliant move i would said, at least give the Director and Wenger to think carefull be4 offer, if he sign during the Mid season he also know wont have much increment at his salary.
In my opinion, its better he can stay, but if he leave pls dont go to citeh, go Italy or Spain then at least we wont be rage by his action like Na$ri.
Honestly, I'd be okay if he moved to Barcelona or Real Madrid or any Italian/Dutch clubs, but please, not EPL team.
+1
Agree, not mean that he leave is end of the world, if stay then good. If leave then the right people will came foward to take his place, Look at our history,
When Henry left, Adebayor came, Adebayor left, Van Per came.
ESPN Soccernet Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger failed to come to a resolution with striker Robin van Persie about his future after face-to-face talks on Wednesday, according to widespread reports in the English media.
ESPN Soccernet Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger failed to come to a resolution with striker Robin van Persie about his future after face-to-face talks on Wednesday, according to widespread reports in the English media.
ESPN Soccernet Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger failed to come to a resolution with striker Robin van Persie about his future after face-to-face talks on Wednesday, according to widespread reports in the English media.
just because there is no update on the contract talks, doesn't mean there's no agreement made between them. for all we know, it might just be a story that was made up to sell the papers. i won't believe anything of it.
Agree, not mean that he leave is end of the world, if stay then good. If leave then the right people will came foward to take his place, Look at our history,
When Henry left, Adebayor came, Adebayor left, Van Per came.
When Viera left, Fab came, Fab left, Arteta came. No worry all Gooner!!
for that im happy because we not need to hope single player, maybe next season another player stnad up, Ramsey anyone?
but but in the last few years we ALWAYS had to rely on one particular player to steer the team forward. The Invincibles were all around squad, each player played their role with no one taking the 'God' role. after that we can see the pattern started to change to one-man team a.k.a. the God role who ends up being snatched away by other teams:
post-Invincibles: when the Invincibles broke up; Pires, Cole, Vieira, Parlour, Edu, Bergkamp all left the team, we became over reliant on Titi - he's the captain, free kick taker, corner kick taker, penalty taker, top scorer and providing top assists as well
post-Titi: after Titi left, Wenger started to build new team with new set of players AROUND FABREGAS. the pattern repeated itself - Fabregas became what Henry was except that he scored less (but I think in one season he was our top scorer no? forgot already)
post-Fab: again, the same thing happened. this time it's RvP. and look where he's (probably) heading now
we don't know what's in Wenger's mind but seeing his actions in the past I think it's not impossible that he is going back to square one and rebuilding the team again should RvP leave, which is really bad for us because if he keeps rebuilding then how the hell is the team supposed to get matured and ready to challenge the Mancs?
but but in the last few years we ALWAYS had to rely on one particular player to steer the team forward. The Invincibles were all around squad, each player played their role with no one taking the 'God' role. after that we can see the pattern started to change to one-man team a.k.a. the God role who ends up being snatched away by other teams:
post-Invincibles: when the Invincibles broke up; Pires, Cole, Vieira, Parlour, Edu, Bergkamp all left the team, we became over reliant on Titi - he's the captain, free kick taker, corner kick taker, penalty taker, top scorer and providing top assists as well
post-Titi: after Titi left, Wenger started to build new team with new set of players AROUND FABREGAS. the pattern repeated itself - Fabregas became what Henry was except that he scored less (but I think in one season he was our top scorer no? forgot already)
post-Fab: again, the same thing happened. this time it's RvP. and look where he's (probably) heading now
we don't know what's in Wenger's mind but seeing his actions in the past I think it's not impossible that he is going back to square one and rebuilding the team again should RvP leave, which is really bad for us because if he keeps rebuilding then how the hell is the team supposed to get matured and ready to challenge the Mancs?
yes agreed. initially, fab is set to replace vieira at the central midfield but then, fab left. yes, we're keep on building. but the problem is, AW prefer to play with more midfield either 4-3-3 or 4-5-1. i still prefer the attacking style of 4-4-2 during the invincible season. but nevertheless, big team spend big and all about money and fame.
if every years sold our best player how to become champion...
last time adebayor then fabregas and nasri after this Rvp then wilshere then podolski and then arsenal become like leeds united
just for one season become god like then we gonna sell him
if already 3-4 seasons i dont care but just 1 season already wanna sell him
i dont know what is happening with arsenal boards of director as far i know AW want to keep Rvp but if the boards dont want to help nothing he can do
as far i concerned Arsenal will survive till stadium debt finished.. I dont think we can hold any player we want now because got debt, we cant pay like mancity got sugar daddy, if usmanov and stan can work together hope Dein can replace Gazidis in transfer dealing.. The priority of board and owner is finish top 4, winning any cup is bonus, so what i can say we have to patience, and wait till right time come to buy right player.. Better dont abuse Arsene Wenger because he still loyal with us, yes he make mistake, but who not? see Alex Fergurson buy Bebe that price..
i was so happy when arsenal got third place. but now with all the rumours about persie leaving i feel so so sad
Yep. I think everyone sad. It's hard to win anything if every season we have to rebuild like unidentifyxd said. Hopefully thats not the case this time. Instead we add more quality signing that can put Arsenal on top of the league again.
but but in the last few years we ALWAYS had to rely on one particular player to steer the team forward. The Invincibles were all around squad, each player played their role with no one taking the 'God' role. after that we can see the pattern started to change to one-man team a.k.a. the God role who ends up being snatched away by other teams:
post-Invincibles: when the Invincibles broke up; Pires, Cole, Vieira, Parlour, Edu, Bergkamp all left the team, we became over reliant on Titi - he's the captain, free kick taker, corner kick taker, penalty taker, top scorer and providing top assists as well
post-Titi: after Titi left, Wenger started to build new team with new set of players AROUND FABREGAS. the pattern repeated itself - Fabregas became what Henry was except that he scored less (but I think in one season he was our top scorer no? forgot already)
post-Fab: again, the same thing happened. this time it's RvP. and look where he's (probably) heading now
we don't know what's in Wenger's mind but seeing his actions in the past I think it's not impossible that he is going back to square one and rebuilding the team again should RvP leave, which is really bad for us because if he keeps rebuilding then how the hell is the team supposed to get matured and ready to challenge the Mancs?
dont forget that season is very different from highbury, we build stadium and we sell player to balance debt in our account.. every club have drought several season, so we not different.
yea i am in the wagon of can't afford to let RvP go although we can still move on without him, loosing him would be a big loss for the team
the rebuilding thingy, its been going on for say 4-5 years now people these days have no patience, i don't blame that it took city 4 decades to win another English title, Liv, to be frank i don't know when was the last time they won it.. a part from them having major rebuilding, they cant even find a stable manager to begin with
of course,i am not tha hinting that we should go that direction we will never know, only time will tell hopefully we don't have to wait that long to taste another BPL trophy
whatever it is, i do believe in Wenger to do his best to retain RvP in the team one can only hope for the best now
one thing i dont like about rebuilding the team is when u suddenly have a player emerge everyone will try to take them away from u
we are like a second class club whenever this happens
hah! if there is one thing we can learn from this are the victims of small clubs all around the world those small clubs out there all around the world are the biggest victims in this scenario all their talent are always snatched by bigger/big clubs in a way i feel for the fan's and supporters of smaller clubs, they to have ambition i wait for the day BPL have 20 teams competing for the title...nv gonna happen i guess
now that sugar daddies came into the picture, Roman and Sheikh the food chain just got worst Big clubs can now song lap from other big clubs easily, with show me the money ask City to offer Barcelona 200m for Messi, of course they won't offer such ridi price but if they do...i can guarandammtee,Barce will sell Messi
hah! if there is one thing we can learn from this are the victims of small clubs all around the world those small clubs out there all around the world are the biggest victims in this scenario all their talent are always snatched by bigger/big clubs in a way i feel for the fan's and supporters of smaller clubs, they to have ambition i wait for the day BPL have 20 teams competing for the title...nv gonna happen i guess
now that sugar daddies came into the picture, Roman and Sheikh the food chain just got worst Big clubs can now song lap from other big clubs easily, with show me the money ask City to offer Barcelona 200m for Messi, of course they won't offer such ridi price but if they do...i can guarandammtee,Barce will sell Messi
Wow, with that rpice, they could afford to built a new stadium. Yeah, these rich owners are definitely ruining the beautiful game, yet you don't see Sepp Blatter make a big deal about it. Instead, he's harking on the issues of keeping the face of football intact. FIFA is just as dumb not seeing this because they're too deluded with money.
Well... Im all in giving rvp the pay raise he deserved. However 180k per week seems astronomical to us. 130k probably stretching it already on our already thinning budget. Aw should let somego like chamakh n arshavin n diaby. Free up the wages. Upgrade youngsters like lansbury, coq n frimpong n ryo. Call me crazy but i think we should retain yossi n offer rvp 150k per week.
But i see what aw is coming from, 1 great season dont mean u entitle a bumper raise however its nice to have a big bonus though.
Hope rvp will sign. U have to remember we got others coming back fom loan like joel campbell n ryo too. Even if he didnt sign, he still got 1season to o. Why dont we make it a farewell season to him n win everything f***ing cup out there...
hah! if there is one thing we can learn from this are the victims of small clubs all around the world those small clubs out there all around the world are the biggest victims in this scenario all their talent are always snatched by bigger/big clubs in a way i feel for the fan's and supporters of smaller clubs, they to have ambition i wait for the day BPL have 20 teams competing for the title...nv gonna happen i guess
now that sugar daddies came into the picture, Roman and Sheikh the food chain just got worst Big clubs can now song lap from other big clubs easily, with show me the money ask City to offer Barcelona 200m for Messi, of course they won't offer such ridi price but if they do...i can guarandammtee,Barce will sell Messi
ya and we are becoming like them if the cycle doesnt end
I still think RVP is trying to persuade Wenger and the board to invest more. I don't see him leaving the team as his family settled in London for so many years. 130k nowadays is not a big value d. You will probably wow when henry earn this amount but not now considering VP going to contribute his peak to the club. He waited so long but no cups.
in truth 130k is a lot just because those rich papa at chelsea and city offering 180-200k per week salary to their players it has become a benchmark for us to do the same, sadly lol
You really want to strengthen our status as a feeder club huh?
Merely answering the question which started with 'if', secondly Van Persie going to any club other than Barca doesn't make our club any less 'feeding' than to Barca. So if going there one day is his dream, why not repay what he had done for us in the last 8 years. Again if you noticed my sentence started with 'if'.
Merely answering the question which started with 'if', secondly Van Persie going to any club other than Barca doesn't make our club any less 'feeding' than to Barca. So if going there one day is his dream, why not repay what he had done for us in the last 8 years. Again if you noticed my sentence started with 'if'.
This is exactly the problem. His contribution for the last 8 years was basically lying down on the treatment bed. People tend to forget that Robin's goalscoring form started only in the middle of last season. Its not like in the past 8 years he's been banging goals and we still end up trophyless. If thats the case he should really really leave...
This post has been edited by HateFakers: May 17 2012, 10:42 PM
not Man City again... mau muntah when heard this name. he better go other league rather than staying here in... Other league is easier for him to own a trophy....
what happen to sport nowaday... it more like buying a trophy nowaday.... haiz~
they love $$$, but they say they want trophy... i didn't see Na$ri contribute much on the trophy for MC.... just feel like even no Na$ri, the trophy still in they pocket....
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we already have automatic CL qualification la with 3rd place. that's why we die die have to secure that spot.
peace yaw...
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