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The weekend beta starts on Saturday 3am 28th April local time.
The server which generally SEA/Oceanic players go to: Sea of Sorrows (Yes, this includes beta: April 27-29)
Guild Name: Low Yat Net [LYN]
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This post has been edited by heaven: May 16 2012, 10:53 AM

first~ XD
*edit*

now, hope next bwe they'll put in asura/treeppl. wanna try asura guardian .
guess while waiting for that gonna be spamming d3..

This post has been edited by dezz: Apr 30 2012, 08:14 PM

I got 100% for Queensdale, Divinity's Reach and Lion's Arch

There are some hidden gems for you too, so keep looking. (Hint: Charrrrr)

1st page yea
so next month BWE around end of may rite

This post has been edited by tlts: Apr 30 2012, 08:27 PM

oh so I need to find more heart event and do storyline event in order to gain more exp

btw, I love to repeat same heart event in queensdale, the one need to protect gate from centaur raid

This post has been edited by moodswingfella: Apr 30 2012, 08:27 PM

le fuuu 60 hours u never slept ke.

post ur pvp build here jom.

eh when game open u all gonna go which world?

sea of sorrows trololololol.
enjoy the benefits from the world vs world vs world champion.

eh how come i miss the last 2% ==;

Question about GW1.

Tried GW2 definitely playing it. Now I want all the rewards from Hall of Monuments.

Should I have to buy all campaigns + EOTN? If so, is there somewhere cheaper to get the game, its like $50 for everything. It hurtsssssssss a lil.

come lets discuss and share competitive pvp builds.


my warrior sniper:
http://gw2.luna-atra.fr/skills_tool/?lang=...f0ke3e4f8f91l27

armor rune = eagle, +precision, +critical dmg
weapon sigil = +critical chance 5%
amulet = +power +precision +critcal dmg

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Added on April 30, 2012, 8:43 pmguild wars trilogy
rm58.76
http://www.offgamers.com/guild-wars/GW/gui...m-cp-101559.ogm


guild wars eye of the north
rm 29.37
http://www.offgamers.com/guild-wars/GW/gui...on-cp-39937.ogm


58.76 + 29.37 = 88.13

total rm88+

that is less than usd30

This post has been edited by Deimos Tel`Arin: Apr 30 2012, 08:43 PM

how many of you LYN members played in Sea of Sorrows? and did you guys join a guild? how many of you played WvWvW with a group of guys?

quite a number of us from what i've seen. and we made a LYN guild. at least you wont be lonely XD

I did.

I prolly fought some of you and beside you. Definitely fought Deimos Tel Arin and beside him.

i dunno. i think quite a lot. i no message them though lulz.
leo said he saw me running through the portal in lions arch though lulz. i was entering divinity reach from lions arch. was in the mist earlier.

i no join guild.

after launch i will make guild called
Deimos Tel Arin [DTA]

trololololol

yeah ke? fought me? O_O in competitive pvp ke? what happened lulz.

Im Darkz in sea of sorrow currently in guild LYN too

thanks Qiss for answered me so much question

when's the BWE ? this coming friday midnight ?

gonna try thief

Next BWE is next month la

Thief is nice with dual pistol and shortbow ^^

thief good with dual dagger ? wondering

This game needs chat bubbles.

I went "oh its you LYN kia" or something like that.

Hard to play for me. You have to rely on conditions and do a quick attack and back off before your enemy can strike back

larrs/dezan here. well thief is fun la. rolling around with dual gun/shortbow and being the last man standing while bossing

Fight me and you'll know how devastating DD thief is.

Lets just say my top critical in conquest was 9k. I also have a 57% critical rate that goes up to 60+%.

My thief regularly dishes out 4~9k crits. On light armor, I twoshot elementalists who aren't expecting me.

Crafting:


This post has been edited by ZeratoS: Apr 30 2012, 09:07 PM

Conquest? You mean PVP?

its about PvP right ? im wondering hows thief's surviving ? because i played ranger its too weak , mob maybe 5 hit i die lol

Its called conquest mode I believe.

Also hint for 100% LA: Order of Whispers

Edit: Thief is very dependant on positioning and timing. I won't tell you how I play, but I will tell you that if I get caught, I die instantly. Make use of higher ground to get the jump on targets, especially in the Battle of Khylo.

I'm still working on my build and fine tuning it, but I've got most of it down to a single spike.

This post has been edited by ZeratoS: Apr 30 2012, 09:12 PM

lulz i must busy trying to kill someone or be killed by someone lulz. never noticed that.

eh share ur build and play style lar. why so secret o.

4-9k is imba lar. how u manage that? the cool down must be long rite for such high dmg attack.

4-9k versus light armor is it?

against heavy armor? medium armor?

my warrior killed many thieves in one on one combat lulz.

Thieves don't have cooldowns. My most successful chain was 8.9k > 9.6k and I killed the guy in two hits LOL.

Medium takes 5~6k from a flank attack and Heavy takes 4k or so.

Secret cause I spent a lot of time in PvP just to get it right. No point in having another PvX show up and besides each person's build is unique ma. I saw this thief make use of caltrops on dodging to allow her to flank targets. Another one used smokescreen to stealth around and confuse people.

This post has been edited by ZeratoS: Apr 30 2012, 09:45 PM

i read in GW2G some ele build managed to crit for 16k 1 shotting most of the class except for necro and warrior

btw, there are no changelogs between this BWE and last press beta weekend anywhere on the web?

will thief are complicated to play ? need initiave point to use skill if dont just can normal hit ? which mean we need to hit hit hit then stealth , or else just can do normal hit ?

(first time play gw2 and alot question to ask )

I suggest using our account name as the representation instead of Character Name because a person might have different characters with different names. The account name is the one bracketed, like mine is (Alexander).

Solid do make a LYN facebook group for the guild!

yea... thief (melee) takes quite a bit to master. had fun with the caltrops roll. shadow step, skill spam, roll for initiative~ if fails go poof or die trying XD

and yes, i wont reveal my pvp build as it'll spoil the surprise/dunwan tiba2 ada clone build at the start later on XD

bah if u guys really that good u will not be afraid to share your pvp builds one.

+9999

haha , like this i might play ranger when official release because i dont like complicated character lol , but will try thief on nxt BWE. ranger quite fun

jom lets share and discuss each other's competitive pvp build.

my warrior rifleman.
http://gw2.luna-atra.fr/skills_tool/?lang=...f0ke3e4f8f91l27

armor rune = eagle, +precision, +critical dmg
weapon sigil = +critical chance 5%
amulet = +power +precision +critcal dmg


play style:
- cap points
- shoot ppl
- stay alive
- kill svanir / chieftain
- trebuchet if many ppl fighting on a particular point
- follow team mate to gang bang ppl

if encounter one on one situation, shoot them, if they get close, switch to hammer, earth shaker, then back breaker.

if i get downed, throw hammer knock them down if they try to finish me off then vengeance to rally and try to kill them lulz.

sometimes get sweet revenge will not get defeated.

if a team fight seems impossible for me i will attempt to flee and capture other points.

hmmm what else?

basically i believe the general rule is there is strength in numbers! so gang up ppl with team mates.

i just mash keys 1 - 5 saja. i keep adrenaline full though, for adrenal health regen and +9% critical hit from another trait.

yeah ranger is fun
manage to win most of 1 on 1 with greatsword
if got good distraction can just change to longbow and pmp in 9k dmg with rapidfire

eh share ur competitive build jom

btw damage dealt is different versus heavy, medium, light armor yes?

Its not about being good lol. I don't need to share my build to win.

Its about creating your own build because mine may not work for you. It certainly won't if you have a 0.5sec delay on skill activation.

Its also not done, not perfect and has a lot of flaws. If the spike fails, you are dead. If you're caught out of position, you're dead. If your utilities are on cooldown, you're dead. If you even mistime ONE skill, your spike falls apart completely and that leaves you vulnerable

I have to constantly swap skills and traits to get what works for me PER match, so uncle please don't give me that crap about being good and sharing.

Edit: If you really die hard want the build: its Skale Venom, Signet of Shadows, Assassin's Signet, Basilisk Venom. Rest you can figure out. (From this alone you can see why the build fails if you mistime the spike. Its so reliant on basilisk venom to open that if you fail to follow up against a warrior, his spinspinspin will kill you.)

This post has been edited by ZeratoS: Apr 30 2012, 10:32 PM

hey when i say share your build i dun mean to copy it ok, i just wanna know. i dun play a thief. i play a warrior. but if i can know how they work maybe it can help when i need to deal with them.

This is hard to say. For all the PvP matches I have been in, every single thief is different. In fact, I've never seen one with my build.

If you want to deal with them, especially the venomancers like me, just let them start their spike then you kill them. Some are super annoying to deal with, like those that rely on stealth - you have to use AoE attacks to hit them. Thieves rely on dodge a LOT. Their Shadow Arts, Acrobatics and Trickery have dodge related traits I believe, so you should aim to make them waste their dodges.

Edit: And my build won't work half the time against you, no need to worry about learning how to deal with it since my spike only drops warriors to maybe 50% health before they can counter. In fact, I die more to warriors and guardians due to their healing and spinspinspin.

This post has been edited by ZeratoS: Apr 30 2012, 10:38 PM

Anyone try the dungeon ?? I didn't get to try it... i know there seems to be one in a town call bee something....

Beetletun. Its not open as far as I know.

http://gw2.luna-atra.fr/skills_tool/?lang=...0383j3q3tfrfugf

normally just leap in with great sword drop frost trap

why everyone just follow him blindly ...

cause they thought both of them just jmped over

LOL trololololol

I played Mesmer. Needs fixing, like a lot. But good thing is I can't die unless its a ranger or dagger thief. Thieves kill me so fast I don't have time to generate clones.

But if I don't meet these annoying dagger ones. I can kill them 1v1, just takes very long.

Sidenote: Whats a good class to start in GW1? and which campaign first? I keep reading different things. Ask me to create Ritualist (Factions), but one ask me to start in Nightfall first for heroes or Prophecies because its easiest?

the evasive roll remove condition and 25% cripple enemy trait, pet helps alot in pvp and pve, not much in WvW

Nightfall or Factions. Prophecies is the most annoying to do. Go back there when you've gotten capped gear.


Use one of those clone traits, it stops dagger thieves quite well.

by the way my pet are too weak , which pet are more tankful ? lol bear ?

Use bird, put 10 into beastmastery and your bird now can fear people

All clones die with just auto swing 1.

Yes but those swings are usually spike starters meaning you've effectively wasted their poisons, initiative and spike starter. Look at my earlier utilities. It relies heavily on basilisk venom and skale venom. Using a clone means that if I start with dancing daggers, the bounces are wasted on your clones, thus wasting my venom count.

You get twoshotted because they're stacking so much vulnerability on you it makes your already frail defences worse. Waste their poisons and it changes slightly in your favour.

i only got brown bear,hound,eagle,jellyfish and the drake
brown bear most tanky with decent damage follow by hound, i ditch my starting drake once i got my hand on the hound and brown bear
aquatic is brown bear follow by jellyfish

remember to swap ur pet once its dead, dam important if ur still in combat

The problem is them opening on me / surprise attack. Usually too late to react. And if i'm caught without my invis cooldown up, I'm usually dead.

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Added on April 30, 2012, 11:09 pmAlso, engineer after they setup everything is like /wrist.

This post has been edited by frega: Apr 30 2012, 11:09 PM

Tips for you thieves out there.

• Dancing Dagger + Devourer Venom = bouncing ranged immobilize. Gets you out of ganks and starts ganks.
• Shadowsteps don't really work from different level positions.
• Always use steal - steal from necromancers = fear, steal from elementalists = burn, stun or freeze, steal from warriors = spinspinspin.
• Venom works on all your weapon skills and I do believe it works on the axe item stolen too. It also works even when you're downed.
• Use dodge
• Use Stealth, it changes your first skill to something really amazing. (really)
• Pre-prepare your poisons because if you get into the fight at the right time, you'll have them ready to be applied again.
• Steal is also a shadowstep.
• You can save items you stole and your steal will still recharge even if you don't use it. This means you can chain control skills.
• Vulnerability is your best friend.
• Heartseeker, Flanking Strike, Leaping Death Blossom are all gap closers. Use them.
• Warriors are a betch to fight.
• Rangers are also a betch to fight.
• Elementalists are lunch.
• Mesmers are supper, but they're bad for you because they give you extra calories...and the smart ones hurt.

Have fun dealing with or countering thieves.

This post has been edited by ZeratoS: May 1 2012, 04:20 AM

ah i see thanks but i am still blur.
could u make a build with this skill tool, i.e.
http://gw2.luna-atra.fr/skills_tool/?lang=...0383j3q3tfrfugf

so maybe i get a clearer picture lulz.

why u say wasted their poisons, initiative etc o? what does it mean?

best bet will b get more defensive skill rather relying on 1 or 2 skills to escape

Initiative is my resource. I don't have cooldowns and I rely on them to use skills. They range from 2~5 cost per skill so I can spam one skill or use them wisely.

Venoms are applied as per number of hits. They range from 1 hit (Basilisk) to 5 (Spider) depending on how useful they are. If I successfully apply venom and attack you but fail to continue the chain, I have just successfully wasted both my venoms and my initiative.

Without initiative, I have lost half my damage capacity and I am easy to kill because most of my play relies on quick chains of powerful skills in a short timespan.

To sum it up, all thieves play like this. To actually kill we must use high burst damage and if we fail to burst you down, we are essentially crippled ducks for a specific time-window which you must exploit.

ooooo okies. thanks!

eh, how do thieves regen iniative oh then? ok me go find wiki

ok i got it.

12 initiative.

+3 more with trait.

regen 1 iniative per second.

This post has been edited by Deimos Tel`Arin: Apr 30 2012, 11:27 PM

well said. XD
thief relies heavily on timing, and the 1st few attacks. run out if initiative and you'll spamming normal atk and have to figure out how to runaway (or die).

aaaah i see okies.
thanks now i think i understand thieves a bit more.

my warrior rifleman simple build saja.

follow team mate, see enemy. pew pew pew.
if hurt, heal self.
if cannot win battle, flee and cap other points.

cap points, kill svanier, chieftain.
repeat.

I have updated the list of tips. Most thieves don't know that you can pre-prepare poisons before fights as you can engage before the poisons run out and have the come off cooldown mid-fight.


Thieves are not a newbie friendly class. Same as Assassin from GW1.

me too. just command my ranger to pew pew and order my bear to attack only

by the way how to switch and tame pet ? lol (noob question) as a newbie like me , i would suggest myself to pick bear for tank the mobs infront rather than tactical pets

anyhow , i checked pet management page,there had 4 skill for my pet , how to activate that?

thanks

woa got pet management page?? i dont notice this. i lagi noob..

agreed. and thinking back, sin in gw1 relies heavily on hits timing too.. miss 1 combo skill/wasted poison/venom = fuuuu XD

But here you don't have to worry bout WoH monks. Hate those with fiery passion.

woh monks? word of healing?
5 energy, heal target other ally and bonus heal if their health is under 50% ?
oh, about stealing from warriors, i think it depend on what weapons the warrior currently using rite?

i think guardians also a betch to fight against rite?
i cannot kill guardians lulz. kena pwn by them.

thats y i tekan every icon u see in the game
its a paw right nex to ur pet icon

If I'm not mistaken its usually stun or spinspinspin if you steal from a warrior. Spin is really the most worthless of the lot because the damage sucks compared to what you can dish out. Good if you're in a team fight since they have little AoE besides LDB.

Guardians? Nobody fights guardians - we run from them. Mesmers can eat them though since lolclones.

it's above your skill hotkey there , the green "paw" icon

lulz ok i geddit now. i was doing it wrong lulz. i tried to kill a guardian. failed. only way to take one down is via gang bang then i suppose?

My guild member from the Guru was able to hold off 5 people for 20 seconds or more. Who the heck survives for that long!?

dafuq. O_O
1 vs 5 and survive for 20 seconds????

but the point is lost anyway right? i.e. they got 4 more members on that point.
but the rest of the members will surely cap the other points liao. or kill svanir / chieftain etc.

yeah the paw right above skill 1

Hold that long means other two points the enemy lost (40 points~), waste of their time trying to gank 1 person (only 10 points per kill), and wasting their cooldowns means the guardian's allies could just swoop in and beat everyone like that. Truly the epitome of guarding lol.

This post has been edited by ZeratoS: Apr 30 2012, 11:53 PM

*sees a guardian* sets needle trap and run like heck~... yea, fighting guardian takes too long.

geng! he can just camp at one point and the opposing team will futilely try to kill / cap that point and waste time.


oh btw got one time, i saw 2 red team guys trying to kill chieftain. one was already downed, the other 1/3 life i think. chieftain still got 1/3 health i think.

i pew pew pew the downed one to kill it then i pew pew the remaining one to kill him too.
then i proceed to pew pew chieftain. chieftain rage, whack me.

i take out hammer, earth shaker, back breaker, then bash some more.
yay 50 points for the team.

not surpised
9/10 players i met kinda use default eq,trait,utility and weapon in pvp,
rarely i see any1 touch their utility skill even 1 on 1 and normally after drop 1 or 2 skills they kinda rely on normal atk or start running blindly

Screw PvP come, WvW and teamwork with TS3

-Your old mate- Zyril -

This post has been edited by BurningSoul: May 1 2012, 12:21 AM

rololol commander has spoken

Since last thread i owe you my so called build (i just play this build cos it was fun and a range one)
Btw deimos, this one really for fun build not really a really lawan2 build xD

This one was my Ele pvp build (and the first 5 skills is also my pve build) Just like the range and ability to push people down
http://gw2.luna-atra.fr/skills_tool/?lang=...ao2bgk2g0000000
That time play ele i only chose to play air element (ice first, then air unlocked straight go for air)

My guardian more of a support / tankish a bit build? (i think. xD)
http://gw2.luna-atra.fr/skills_tool/?lang=...f0ke3e4f8f91l27
One thing i like about hammer is the long range binding spell (number 3 i think, i dont remember when i post this)
and when skill cd i swap with great sword
http://gw2.luna-atra.fr/skills_tool/?lang=...f0ke3e4f8f91l27

Last is my mesmer, really no time to play this one xD
http://gw2.luna-atra.fr/skills_tool/?lang=...f0ke3e4f8f91l27
just a standard range build i suppose, i want to be able to move and shoot
http://gw2.luna-atra.fr/skills_tool/?lang=...f0ke3e4f8f91l27
i like this more though, randomly casting boons and conditions haha xD

So far thats my build i suppose

This post has been edited by Kintey: May 1 2012, 03:51 AM

I'll be experimenting with builds again in the next BWE. I've got in mind some stealth heavy builds and others. We'll see what goes on.

I now have a possibility of offloading 6 stacks of vulnerability (-300 defence) on the target from the get go while maintaining stealth for the entire spike. Traded some 50 power for that but its a small tradeoff for such a huge bolster in my defensive and deception capabilities. This means I may lose roughly 500 or so damage on my crits, but it doesn't matter.

This post has been edited by ZeratoS: May 1 2012, 04:01 AM

I was really impressed with your dmg. Gonna try to figure out how you do that soon. haha xD Trial and error should work

http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/34702-...basics-for-pvp/

This is for you if you want to learn how to use a thief. I updated it a little more.

This post has been edited by ZeratoS: May 1 2012, 04:38 AM

OK so... MBT got GW2 division? hahaha... if got i want in..lol

eh guys, can still pre-purchase directly from the website? i heard they already finished the key?