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tkaira
post Apr 25 2012, 08:44 AM

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QUOTE(earthdome @ Apr 25 2012, 08:39 AM)
never drove auto before. i wonder how this "sluggish" feeling will affect me. i'm pretty sure i'll do just like that at traffic light. same as manual.
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actually its only from standstill..when ur on the move its very effortless thumbup.gif ..a i read the reasonthey did that is to preserve the gearbox n engine n elak u surprise but s*x with car in front during jam biggrin.gif ..just keep in mind this like a manual car but someone is changing the gears for u


Added on April 25, 2012, 8:46 am
QUOTE(dares @ Apr 25 2012, 08:44 AM)
Actually no need to move the shift stick I think.

Keep in D/S, press footbrake to hold the car and open the clutch. When going to move, pull handbrake then releasing footbrake, press a bit of throttle then release handbrake.
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like that also can..is just that if u select N at standstill the cvt will cool off rite? moreover brakepads are not worn out too fast..correct or not? rclxms.gif

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post Apr 25 2012, 08:46 AM

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im not perfect, yup, maybe i do mistakes. Tq 4 pointing up. Rubber band effect indeed related by rubber belt. But for mitsu, maybe due to the certain design on jatco cvt, how it react, trigger the thing that felt like rubberband effect.

I just touch on mitsu coz inspira used it. Yup, it uses steel band. Sorry for my mistakes. But rubberband effect is not appear in punch cvt. Read up more on how punch powertrain history, its from division that created cvt for renault in 50's if not mistaken.

Maybe those who using youtube link can share info since he really an expert on cvt. I just a layman. I believe so many times i mentioned that im a layman :-). For more tech details, thats why i asked u to ask kristof, or prtn drive terrain person who incharge for cvt, m.rapid b arifin.

Salam.
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post Apr 25 2012, 08:50 AM

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QUOTE(tkaira @ Apr 25 2012, 08:44 AM)
like that also can..is just that if u select N at standstill the cvt will cool off rite? moreover brakepads are not worn out too fast..correct or not?  rclxms.gif
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Hmmm if the clutch is opened (with footbrakes) then the gearbox should already be disengaged from the engine, and the CVT and the car should not be moving.

anyone can chip in?
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post Apr 25 2012, 08:54 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ Apr 25 2012, 08:50 AM)
Hmmm if the clutch is opened (with footbrakes) then the gearbox should already be disengaged from the engine, and the CVT and the car should not be moving.

anyone can chip in?
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haha yep anyone can confirm this? because IINM when press brake yes the car is not moving but when u want move on u press the throttle there is some lag rite? u floor it also dint move that fast.. so my method was addressing that lag la..or i misunderstood u sweat.gif
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Mat79 thanks for comprehensive explaination on the cvt. How about the engine booming sound can that be improved ?
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QUOTE(dares @ Apr 25 2012, 07:56 AM)
Pointing out an error is one thing, being rude is another.

ckk125 pointed out what he sees as an error. You, on the other hand, was being plain rude. You first post in 54 pages in this thread, you were just waiting for the opportunity, weren't you?
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i always try to read all post by mat79 since last few threads..most of his info are all new to me..
btw,may b he was wrong sometimes too,but i noticed ckk alwys argue when it is.
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QUOTE(tkaira @ Apr 25 2012, 08:54 AM)
haha yep anyone can confirm this? because IINM when press brake yes the car is not moving but when u want move on u press the throttle there is some lag rite? u floor it also dint move that fast.. so my method was addressing that lag la..or i misunderstood u  sweat.gif
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You misunderstood me la. sweat.gif

1. stop car using footbrake, hold footbrake while stopped (open clutch, disengages CVT from engine, no power to the wheels.)
2. When going to move, pull handbrake, then release footbrake. (allow the clutch to close.)
3. Press a little throttle, release handbrake.
4. Profit. icon_rolleyes.gif


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post Apr 25 2012, 09:04 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ Apr 25 2012, 09:01 AM)
You misunderstood me la.  sweat.gif

1. stop car using footbrake, hold footbrake while stopped (open clutch, disengages CVT from engine, no power to the wheels.)
2. When going to move, pull handbrake, then release footbrake. (allow the clutch to close.)
3. Press a little throttle, release handbrake.
4. Profit.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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ahh i see haha kk..i understand tongue.gif
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post Apr 25 2012, 09:07 AM

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QUOTE(eistern @ Apr 25 2012, 09:01 AM)
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i always try to read all post by mat79 since last few threads..most of his info are all new to me..
btw,may b he was wrong sometimes too,but i noticed ckk alwys argue when it is.
nice knowing u all
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At least most of the time ckk was courteous lor, and his arguments are based on his knowledge, not blind bashing.


Added on April 25, 2012, 9:08 am
QUOTE(tkaira @ Apr 25 2012, 09:04 AM)
ahh i see haha kk..i understand  tongue.gif
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Do like to get confirmation if there are any side effects to using footbrake only compared to shifting to N.

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QUOTE(dares @ Apr 25 2012, 09:01 AM)
You misunderstood me la.  sweat.gif

1. stop car using footbrake, hold footbrake while stopped (open clutch, disengages CVT from engine, no power to the wheels.)
2. When going to move, pull handbrake, then release footbrake. (allow the clutch to close.)
3. Press a little throttle, release handbrake.
4. Profit.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Is this also applicable to IAFM+ variant? Never drove a CVT car before. doh.gif
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post Apr 25 2012, 09:17 AM

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QUOTE(ghost_301 @ Apr 25 2012, 09:16 AM)
Is this also applicable to IAFM+ variant? Never drove a CVT car before. doh.gif
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Should be, as long as it is a CVT.

I dunno how the IAFM+ Preve is tuned, so the lag from standstill may not be so severe, need to test drive only know.

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post Apr 25 2012, 09:30 AM

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QUOTE(faujc99 @ Apr 25 2012, 05:49 AM)
hi guys, i'm a salesperson for proton in maluri branch, for anyone interested in preve, do call me up for LATEST OFFER and FREEBIES. tq

0122312373 Siang
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I believe u're a bit late. brows.gif But nevermind, for those truth-seeker who's going thru this thread might contact u eventually.

QUOTE(stinger82 @ Apr 25 2012, 07:31 AM)
hahahahahahahahhaha

doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

check your fact before you open your mouth.

hahahahahhahahahahha

you know nothing about gearbox.

hahahahah, you better say stuff that you know.

even if you're DSZ, you still dont know the technical details of your gearbox. so dont comment silly things.

punch is a tiny company compared to jatco. u go to their website you will see that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmSmv6aiWqg...player_embedded
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This one co**y little fella who studied from you tube.. Never heard of the name & suddenly pop up and condemn my respected colleague here.. vmad.gif vmad.gif

GTFO and stop showing off already.



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QUOTE(dares @ Apr 25 2012, 07:56 AM)
Pointing out an error is one thing, being rude is another.

ckk125 pointed out what he sees as an error. You, on the other hand, was being plain rude. You first post in 54 pages in this thread, you were just waiting for the opportunity, weren't you?
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after all these while, ppl here still do not understand.

there is no need for proton to compare with any car, from its own rebadge inspira to myvi vios city,altis, 308 civic,lancer forte mazda3.

if they can make existing persona/gen2/savvy buyer continue to buy the next car from them, they are successful.

look at how many ppl yelling ,this will be my last proton!

and stop all the propaganda on cvt,turbo,torque,power, handling.

ONE photo in facebook says it all, and to add salt to the wound, its on the first week of launching, and a lot of ppl have no idea proton are launching new car, until the photo hit facebook. so much so for the marketing.

to fight vios, they need low end power( no sluggish feeling, test drive myvi if you do not understand), and they need good FC car.

omg when i saw 1.3 saga has FC that can match 2liter civic. 10km/liter? seriously?

the first thing they should do is stop badmouth/compare/downplay all the competitor. seriously proton are just competing with perodua and they are not having an upper hand, hence they need DSZ from perodua to help them.

do you know what proton needs? Word of mouth. not test drive experience that goes 190km/h.(hence the accident photo doh.gif )

one year later if the car is good, sales will go up. not a launching hype and downplay every competitor.

yes, i was rude in the hahaha, but look at my statement above then you know why i laugh. shoot blindly even at their very own product, and tell me the preve doesnt reference from mitsulancer, the RESS is a facepalm to RISE. typical doh.gif

and let see if this 1.6turbo will consume less fuel than any typical 2.0 car. the mark is 10km/liter.



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QUOTE(Saya_Dhuang @ Apr 25 2012, 09:30 AM)
I believe u're a bit late.  brows.gif  But nevermind, for those truth-seeker who's going thru this thread might contact u eventually.
This one co**y little fella who studied from you tube.. Never heard of the name & suddenly pop up and condemn my respected colleague here..  vmad.gif  vmad.gif

GTFO and stop showing off already.
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wat? you wan me to print screen a pdf file or a text file?
facepalm fanboy. doh.gif

and mat79 first hand information are called, HEARSAY.

youtube is a video and you can learn from a video clip.
am i showing you an MTV of beyonce singing?

ok, gonna leave this thread, not here to ruin preve owners day.
enjoy your car and drive safely. now with all the power you have, you have nothing to prove.


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post Apr 25 2012, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(stinger82 @ Apr 25 2012, 09:31 AM)
after all these while, ppl here still do not understand.

there is no need for proton to compare with any car, from its own rebadge inspira to myvi vios city,altis, 308 civic,lancer forte mazda3.

if they can make existing persona/gen2/savvy buyer continue to buy the next car from them, they are successful.

1.look at how many ppl yelling ,this will be my last proton!

2.and stop all the propaganda on cvt,turbo,torque,power, handling.

3.ONE photo in facebook says it all, and to add salt to the wound, its on the first week of launching, and a lot of ppl have no idea proton are launching new car, until the photo hit facebook. so much so for the marketing.

4.to fight vios, they need low end power( no sluggish feeling, test drive myvi if you do not understand), and they need good FC car.

5.omg when i saw 1.3 saga has FC that can match 2liter civic. 10km/liter? seriously?

6.the first thing they should do is stop badmouth/compare/downplay all the competitor. seriously proton are just competing with perodua and they are not having an upper hand, hence they need DSZ from perodua to help them.

do you know what proton needs? Word of mouth. not test drive experience that goes 190km/h.(hence the accident photo doh.gif )

one year later if the car is good, sales will go up. not a launching hype and downplay every competitor.

yes, i was rude in the hahaha, but look at my statement above then you know why i laugh. shoot blindly even at their very own product, and tell me the preve doesnt reference from mitsulancer, the RESS is a facepalm to RISE. typical doh.gif

and let see if this 1.6turbo will consume less fuel than any typical 2.0 car. the mark is 10km/liter.
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1. i dont see many.many who yell that doesnt even own a proton in the first place.just pure bashers.typical malaysian just like u!
2. errr...business101..i believe that its called MARKETING
3. I believe that many more did not now that VW just launched a new sedan
4. did u even read this thread or just went in to bash?
5. thats total bullsh** and seeing it coming from u, totally understood =)
6. since when did proton badmouth/compare/downplay?

CONCLUSION: GET OUT.ur just an idiot. No matter how much u bark, we noe u just butthurt bcos u just bought a vios =P
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QUOTE(stinger82 @ Apr 25 2012, 09:31 AM)
after all these while, ppl here still do not understand.

there is no need for proton to compare with any car, from its own rebadge inspira to myvi vios city,altis, 308 civic,lancer forte mazda3.

if they can make existing persona/gen2/savvy buyer continue to buy the next car from them, they are successful.

look at how many ppl yelling ,this will be my last proton!

and stop all the propaganda on cvt,turbo,torque,power, handling.

ONE photo in facebook says it all, and to add salt to the wound, its on the first week of launching, and a lot of ppl have no idea proton are launching new car, until the photo hit facebook. so much so for the marketing.

to fight vios, they need low end power( no sluggish feeling, test drive myvi if you do not understand), and they need good FC car.

omg when i saw 1.3 saga has FC that can match 2liter civic. 10km/liter? seriously?

the first thing they should do is stop badmouth/compare/downplay all the competitor. seriously proton are just competing with perodua and they are not having an upper hand, hence they need DSZ from perodua to help them.

do you know what proton needs? Word of mouth. not test drive experience that goes 190km/h.(hence the accident photo doh.gif )

one year later if the car is good, sales will go up. not a launching hype and downplay every competitor.

yes, i was rude in the hahaha, but look at my statement above then you know why i laugh. shoot blindly even at their very own product, and tell me the preve doesnt reference from mitsulancer, the RESS is a facepalm to RISE. typical doh.gif

and let see if this 1.6turbo will consume less fuel than any typical 2.0 car. the mark is 10km/liter.
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Ya know, I would appreciate it had you posted in this tone earlier. I can understand criticism, but you came off as a total tool.

Anyway, it's good to see that you are giving constructive criticism, I think most of us Proton drivers know what we signed up for, so I have no problem with criticism as long as they are based on facts and not blind bashing.
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QUOTE(stinger82 @ Apr 25 2012, 09:31 AM)
after all these while, ppl here still do not understand.

there is no need for proton to compare with any car, from its own rebadge inspira to myvi vios city,altis, 308 civic,lancer forte mazda3.

if they can make existing persona/gen2/savvy buyer continue to buy the next car from them, they are successful.

look at how many ppl yelling ,this will be my last proton!

and stop all the propaganda on cvt,turbo,torque,power, handling.

ONE photo in facebook says it all, and to add salt to the wound, its on the first week of launching, and a lot of ppl have no idea proton are launching new car, until the photo hit facebook. so much so for the marketing.

to fight vios, they need low end power( no sluggish feeling, test drive myvi if you do not understand), and they need good FC car.

omg when i saw 1.3 saga has FC that can match 2liter civic. 10km/liter? seriously?

the first thing they should do is stop badmouth/compare/downplay all the competitor. seriously proton are just competing with perodua and they are not having an upper hand, hence they need DSZ from perodua to help them.

do you know what proton needs? Word of mouth. not test drive experience that goes 190km/h.(hence the accident photo doh.gif )

one year later if the car is good, sales will go up. not a launching hype and downplay every competitor.

yes, i was rude in the hahaha, but look at my statement above then you know why i laugh. shoot blindly even at their very own product, and tell me the preve doesnt reference from mitsulancer, the RESS is a facepalm to RISE. typical doh.gif

and let see if this 1.6turbo will consume less fuel than any typical 2.0 car. the mark is 10km/liter.
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QUOTE(stinger82 @ Apr 25 2012, 09:33 AM)
wat? you wan me to print screen a pdf file or a text file?
facepalm fanboy. doh.gif

and mat79 first hand information are called, HEARSAY.

youtube is a video and you can learn from a video clip.
am i showing you an MTV of beyonce singing?

ok, gonna leave this thread, not here to ruin preve owners day.
enjoy your car and drive safely. now with all the power you have, you have nothing to prove.
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Agreed with the fact that what every business needs are words from mouthtomouth that ppl are satisfied with the product and all but you rudely pointed out those things. It's not wrong to say it in more polite manner as ppl will accept it as constructive comment and together we'll have a civilized discussion. Unless, u do have a big grudge againts P1 or the Govt.. brows.gif

Hearsay is better than nothing since nobody's out there take the initiative to explain the truth for this so call Global Car.

I was hoping it is Beyonce Dance Vid so that I can learn to shake it up yay! rclxm9.gif

LOL! laugh.gif


Added on April 25, 2012, 9:47 am
QUOTE(aisamuddin87 @ Apr 25 2012, 09:40 AM)
1. i dont see many.many who yell that doesnt even own a proton in the first place.just pure bashers.typical malaysian just like u!
2. errr...business101..i believe that its called MARKETING
3. I believe that many more did not now that VW just launched a new sedan
4. did u even read this thread or just went in to bash?
5. thats total bullsh** and seeing it coming from u, totally understood =)
6. since when did proton badmouth/compare/downplay?

CONCLUSION: GET OUT.ur just an idiot. No matter how much u bark, we noe u just butthurt bcos u just bought a vios =P
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Agreed on this. It's more like ppl outside realize that other brands & badges also have their own defects thus sharing it with ppl thus us P1 Fanboys noted it. Not like we bad mouth others isn't it? brows.gif

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QUOTE(stinger82 @ Apr 25 2012, 09:31 AM)
after all these while, ppl here still do not understand.

there is no need for proton to compare with any car, from its own rebadge inspira to myvi vios city,altis, 308 civic,lancer forte mazda3.

if they can make existing persona/gen2/savvy buyer continue to buy the next car from them, they are successful.

look at how many ppl yelling ,this will be my last proton!

and stop all the propaganda on cvt,turbo,torque,power, handling.

ONE photo in facebook says it all, and to add salt to the wound, its on the first week of launching, and a lot of ppl have no idea proton are launching new car, until the photo hit facebook. so much so for the marketing.

to fight vios, they need low end power( no sluggish feeling, test drive myvi if you do not understand), and they need good FC car.

omg when i saw 1.3 saga has FC that can match 2liter civic. 10km/liter? seriously?

the first thing they should do is stop badmouth/compare/downplay all the competitor. seriously proton are just competing with perodua and they are not having an upper hand, hence they need DSZ from perodua to help them.

do you know what proton needs? Word of mouth. not test drive experience that goes 190km/h.(hence the accident photo doh.gif )

one year later if the car is good, sales will go up. not a launching hype and downplay every competitor.

yes, i was rude in the hahaha, but look at my statement above then you know why i laugh. shoot blindly even at their very own product, and tell me the preve doesnt reference from mitsulancer, the RESS is a facepalm to RISE. typical doh.gif

and let see if this 1.6turbo will consume less fuel than any typical 2.0 car. the mark is 10km/liter.
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wow.. stinger you sounds very knowledgable in many area. Waaaa... Salute2.. But after all, you are not contributing any thing to this thread. You are not helping at all. You just throwing trash and expect all forummers will give you some respect. You are zero.
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post Apr 25 2012, 09:49 AM

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We are all entitled to our personal opinions, as long as there is a basis of truth in it and delivered courteously.

Let's move on to another topic.

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QUOTE(aisamuddin87 @ Apr 25 2012, 09:40 AM)
1. i dont see many.many who yell that doesnt even own a proton in the first place.just pure bashers.typical malaysian just like u!
2. errr...business101..i believe that its called MARKETING
3. I believe that many more did not now that VW just launched a new sedan
4. did u even read this thread or just went in to bash?
5. thats total bullsh** and seeing it coming from u, totally understood =)
6. since when did proton badmouth/compare/downplay?

CONCLUSION: GET OUT.ur just an idiot. No matter how much u bark, we noe u just butthurt bcos u just bought a vios =P
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Click ignore button for pure bashers. The world is full of different people, just let them be.

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