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faujc99
post Apr 25 2012, 05:49 AM

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hi guys, i'm a salesperson for proton in maluri branch, for anyone interested in preve, do call me up for LATEST OFFER and FREEBIES. tq

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post Apr 25 2012, 06:04 AM

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QUOTE(mat79 @ Apr 24 2012, 10:44 PM)
need the running in period. Remember, being cast ironed, it takes time to fully lubricate all the internal parts.just drive below 100kmh, then u will be ok. Be patient, not that long. And after that,if can, never try out the top speed untill reaching 10k service where everything already matured, the pwrtrain n drivetrain. Happy driving.
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so need retune ecu or not for 1st service? or just let them services for ours.
So before 10k service, drive below 160 kmh ok la. nevermind i never try out the top speed. maybe when get Preve', excited to push the limit but only once for a year. sayang nyawa oooo. just drive between 120 kmh - 160 kmh i thk at highway, mostly 110 kmh-150 kmh.


Added on April 25, 2012, 6:49 am
QUOTE(aisamuddin87 @ Apr 25 2012, 12:47 AM)
hahaha..how many are in the same boat.my first car too.nways, this is what i said to those bashers in sarcastic mode "tulah, proton ni kerja nk tiru aje, kereta lain ada tayar, dia pn nk guna tayar jugak"use this n u can see their face changes and he/she wud stop talking to u for a day.priceless.haha

(of course this applies only when they say preve looks like forte etc etc)
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my 1st car too

This post has been edited by huha: Apr 25 2012, 06:49 AM
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post Apr 25 2012, 06:49 AM

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QUOTE(dadurtyz @ Apr 25 2012, 01:16 AM)
mat, this is what i need some clarification about lancer GT rubber band feel acceleration but not at preve earlier my post. preve acceleration feel more sturdy than ruberband feeling at lancer GT. good answer mat
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lancer, inspira slyphy uses a metal belt also la. rclxub.gif

rubber band effect is the cvt itself, whatever belt it uses makes no difference. doh.gif
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post Apr 25 2012, 06:59 AM

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QUOTE(G K Lai @ Apr 25 2012, 01:20 AM)
rclxms.gif  thumbup.gif  rclxms.gif  thumbup.gif

I spent one full minutes to understand this....  sweat.gif

Ok, off for now, goodnight bro!  icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Apr 25 2012, 07:31 AM

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QUOTE(mat79 @ Apr 25 2012, 12:19 AM)
And this punch cvt using steel belting (people always talk about timing chain is better than timing belt, yadayadayada), n this is steel belting cvt, not rubber belting cvt as in inspira, thats why no rubberband effect. Thats why im speechless when somebody talk about rubberband effect on punch cvt.

Hopefully everybody clear.
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hahahahahahahahhaha

doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

check your fact before you open your mouth.

hahahahahhahahahahha

you know nothing about gearbox.

hahahahah, you better say stuff that you know.

even if you're DSZ, you still dont know the technical details of your gearbox. so dont comment silly things.

punch is a tiny company compared to jatco. u go to their website you will see that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmSmv6aiWqg...player_embedded

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post Apr 25 2012, 07:49 AM

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QUOTE(stinger82 @ Apr 25 2012, 07:31 AM)
hahahahahahahahhaha

doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

check your fact before you open your mouth.

hahahahahhahahahahha

you know nothing about gearbox.

hahahahah, you better say stuff that you know.

even if you're DSZ, you still dont know the technical details of your gearbox. so dont comment silly things.

punch is a tiny company compared to jatco. u go to their website you will see that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmSmv6aiWqg...player_embedded
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n ur point is?
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post Apr 25 2012, 07:55 AM

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im not dsz, how many times i need to clarify things. Punch is not a puny little co. They already design cvt before jatco. Read the all history.

Rubberband effect is related to rubber belting. What u feel is when u press pedal, when it moves, its lurk to the front like slingshots. That is called rubberband effect. Not the sluggish feeling that what people felt. About jatco based lancer cvt that used torque conv, maybe it use steel belt,but i need to open up the tech spech on the gbox, n u supposed to know mitsu in china n taiwan already contacted punch for using its cvt because of some inconvenience in previous cvt supply by other oem.

Sorry, i'm not good learning things from youtube. Just taking info first hand. Tqvm.
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post Apr 25 2012, 07:56 AM

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QUOTE(stinger82 @ Apr 25 2012, 07:31 AM)
hahahahahahahahhaha

doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

check your fact before you open your mouth.

hahahahahhahahahahha

you know nothing about gearbox.

hahahahah, you better say stuff that you know.

even if you're DSZ, you still dont know the technical details of your gearbox. so dont comment silly things.

punch is a tiny company compared to jatco. u go to their website you will see that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmSmv6aiWqg...player_embedded
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Pointing out an error is one thing, being rude is another.

ckk125 pointed out what he sees as an error. You, on the other hand, was being plain rude. You first post in 54 pages in this thread, you were just waiting for the opportunity, weren't you?

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mat79
post Apr 25 2012, 07:59 AM

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i am never touch on sylphy by the way. The xtronic cvt never had any rubberband effect.
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post Apr 25 2012, 08:11 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ Apr 25 2012, 07:56 AM)
Pointing out an error is one thing, being rude is another.

ckk125 pointed out what he sees as an error. You, on the other hand, was being plain rude. You first post in 54 pages in this thread, you were just waiting for the opportunity, weren't you?
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post Apr 25 2012, 08:13 AM

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my interest on preve always on/ off. really hard to make decision tongue.gif but it will be always like 'revive' again when reading mat79's post. sometimes thinking about to blog all his posts icon_idea.gif
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post Apr 25 2012, 08:13 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ Apr 25 2012, 07:56 AM)
Pointing out an error is one thing, being rude is another.

ckk125 pointed out what he sees as an error. You, on the other hand, was being plain rude. You first post in 54 pages in this thread, you were just waiting for the opportunity, weren't you?
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i do have to agree with you...it is indeed rude...
looks like we are looking at a potential troll...
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post Apr 25 2012, 08:15 AM

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QUOTE(stinger82 @ Apr 25 2012, 07:31 AM)
hahahahahahahahhaha

doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

check your fact before you open your mouth.

hahahahahhahahahahha

you know nothing about gearbox.

hahahahah, you better say stuff that you know.

even if you're DSZ, you still dont know the technical details of your gearbox. so dont comment silly things.

punch is a tiny company compared to jatco. u go to their website you will see that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmSmv6aiWqg...player_embedded
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what the f.... this guy really seems knowing so much about CVT.. lets hear from him..
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post Apr 25 2012, 08:21 AM

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QUOTE(mat79 @ Apr 24 2012, 10:38 PM)
r3 use 205/45 r16, but u can still opt for 205/55 r16, re 001 has that tyre size. Better to go to bridgestone authorised dealers coz they are tyre shops, n normally accept trade in. If go to prtn, u need to sell ur standard rim to other shops or mudah.com coz they dont accept trade in.

About the wind noise, can u check something for me, when u drive at 120kmh, try to off ur foot from throttle, if the noise is gone, then, it is cvt whining, not the wind noise. If even already off throttle(in d mode, in s mode, the whining is louder), and cvt whining is gone, but still has loud wind noise, then its the rubber, need to retrofit@change@seal back. If just really slow wind noise, then its normal. Its really hard actually to hear the wind accept already speed up to 140kmh@during windy day where wind is strong.

Coz it happen before, people confius the cvt whining with wind noise. Just off ur foot from throttle at 120kmh speed, n make sure u r in d mode. If the noise gone,then its not wind, but cvt whining. Since u mention u drive in s mode, the whining is louder compare to d mode.
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im prety certain it was wing whining as i was in D and sudah biasa bwk saga so maybe just need to retrofit back the rubber seal..if complaint knget it done ke?


Added on April 25, 2012, 8:25 am
QUOTE(maverickng @ Apr 24 2012, 11:30 PM)
macam susah to drive CVT sweat.gif

then new car can go Genting ka?? hmm.gif
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not hard la..yesterday drove it i finnaly understood how to drive a cvt thumbup.gif .. u just need the concept of how cvt works ur good to go..


Added on April 25, 2012, 8:26 am
QUOTE(dinwaja @ Apr 24 2012, 11:34 PM)
i hope Preve can climb up genting with less struggle...can maintain better RPM...less than 2000RPM is really hard...very slow...like turtle...with turbo...i think it should be no problem...
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just use d mode brows.gif

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post Apr 25 2012, 08:27 AM

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QUOTE(G K Lai @ Apr 25 2012, 08:11 AM)
+1 smile.gif
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QUOTE(redflame @ Apr 25 2012, 08:13 AM)
i do have to agree with you...it is indeed rude...
looks like we are looking at a potential troll...
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QUOTE(shareDARK @ Apr 25 2012, 08:15 AM)
what the f.... this guy really seems knowing so much about CVT.. lets hear from him..
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Just another typical Proton hateboi.

Even if Punch is a tiny puny insignificant speck of dust, one should look at their client portfolio rather than judge them by their size.
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post Apr 25 2012, 08:29 AM

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QUOTE(sp3d2 @ Apr 24 2012, 11:41 PM)
will the car move in d mode without pressing the pedal? if yes,  then how to stop it using hand brake in order not to open the clutch(make it remain close)?
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yesterday at the trafic lights i applied what kristof said.. u use the handbrake at stand still. then when the lights are about to turn green u u select D/S from N then press throtle a bit then let go handbrake .. so no lag la..its like driving a manual..cz if u press the brake then mau tekan minyak it will take sometime to engage the clutch etc thats y got lag..


Added on April 25, 2012, 8:30 am
QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Apr 24 2012, 11:45 PM)
hmm.. no point speculating guys... when the car come then we will know...
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+1


Added on April 25, 2012, 8:31 am
QUOTE(dares @ Apr 24 2012, 11:49 PM)
CVT overheats easier than AT, yes. but most CVT drivetrains come with cooling systems.

Anyway, for discussion sake, say your engine peak torque is at 4k rpm. In a ATand MT drivetrain, you cannot stay at peak torque because your RPM goes up and down as your speed increase while you traverse the gears.

A CVT allows you to stay at 4k RPM as your speed increases, maximising acceleration and efficiency.
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so burn less fuel cz dont need to chase the torque thorugh the rpm range right?

This post has been edited by tkaira: Apr 25 2012, 08:31 AM
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post Apr 25 2012, 08:36 AM

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QUOTE(tkaira @ Apr 25 2012, 08:29 AM)
yesterday at the trafic lights i applied what kristof said.. u use the handbrake at stand still. then when the lights are about to turn green u u select D/S from N then press throtle a bit then let go handbrake .. so no lag la..its like driving a manual..cz if u press the brake then mau tekan minyak it will take sometime to engage the clutch etc thats y got lag..
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QUOTE(tkaira @ Apr 25 2012, 08:29 AM)
so burn less fuel cz dont need to chase the torque thorugh the rpm range right?
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That's the idea. nod.gif optimal RPM for the given load, (almost) independent of speed. Plus our CVT is wet clutch-based, not torque converter, so even more efficient.

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QUOTE(tkaira @ Apr 25 2012, 08:29 AM)
yesterday at the trafic lights i applied what kristof said.. u use the handbrake at stand still. then when the lights are about to turn green u u select D/S from N then press throtle a bit then let go handbrake .. so no lag la..its like driving a manual..cz if u press the brake then mau tekan minyak it will take sometime to engage the clutch etc thats y got lag..
never drove auto before. i wonder how this "sluggish" feeling will affect me. i'm pretty sure i'll do just like that at traffic light. same as manual.
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QUOTE(dares @ Apr 25 2012, 08:36 AM)
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That's the idea.  nod.gif optimal RPM for the given load, (almost) independent of speed. Plus our CVT is wet clutch-based, not torque converter, so even more efficient.
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we are cvt geng need to teach people how to use moreover this is clutch based so diff la rite? yesterday i was explaining to my SA why the car jerks when going slowly n tips how to drive a cvt.. he said "u know a lot about cars" all i can say is thanks to you guys hahaha tongue.gif
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QUOTE(tkaira @ Apr 25 2012, 08:29 AM)
yesterday at the trafic lights i applied what kristof said.. u use the handbrake at stand still. then when the lights are about to turn green u u select D/S from N then press throtle a bit then let go handbrake .. so no lag la..its like driving a manual..cz if u press the brake then mau tekan minyak it will take sometime to engage the clutch etc thats y got lag..
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Actually no need to move the shift stick I think.

Keep in D/S, press footbrake to hold the car and open the clutch. When going to move, pull handbrake then releasing footbrake, press a bit of throttle then release handbrake.

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