funny .. how can you compare XM2 to PS3 ... totally different league .. entry level vs high performance tyre ..

Beside ps3, is there no others brand model can compare with it? Like cheaper but performance not different so much.

you can look into goodyear/bridgestone

then there are the japanese yokohama/toyo

scaling further down would be the koreans (kumho/hankook), even further down indonesia (GT radial/achilles)

but PS3 not cheap.. around 450 a piece rite? in comparison hankook v12 is abt 300+ a piece...

guys i have different opinion for PS3, currently using it on my hyundai accent 195/55/15, change it from Good Year GSD3 eagle f1. But once compare in wet wat i feel is gsd3 would be much more better than ps3.

Before change it to ps3 a lot of ppl recommend this saying that its much more better than my gsd3. In dry condition i got no problem with it but wet i doubt it.

Any comment.

Currently all 4 corners im on RE002, n damn, this tires is damn grippy in the dry... Now clocked almost 15k kms on this set of tires, n im loving every bit of it... But, noisy also, but negliable for me

This post has been edited by ikiey: Apr 20 2012, 11:26 AM

u can go search tyre review.

which they took several tyres and compare.

in terms of wet & overall

GY F1Ass2 > PS3



F1A2 is above GSD5 ( no more GSD3, but ppl claimed GSD3 is better than GSD5).

F1A2 and PS3 very very emphasis on wet, which is very important in malaysia. Dry grip is nothing unless u go sepang. rainy day we see malaysian accident very frequent.

but look at the groove on GSD5, i would say wet performance is not as good as PS3.

simple, look at ps3 and F1A2, the straight groove is big....GSD5 is V thread for dry grip

directional tires are primarily for wet traction.
V treads or directional treads have NO ADDITIONAL benefits compared to regular tires (or asymmetrical tires) for dry performance, grip or traction
do note that grip and traction while inter-related, are different things altogether.

the only drawback for directional tires are less options for tire rotations, and tire noise.

ah, yes u are right.

the F1 D5 also has straight groove

This post has been edited by turbocharged: Apr 20 2012, 12:25 PM

using 225/45/18 on camry 2.0G..... using 3rd set now for ps3... in my opinion is noisy... but is because i'm now 225 with 18 inch... good grip but 60 series tyres are more on comfort oriented instead of performance... actually the highest range of all are the pilot super sports for michelin.. but those are only for performace car... coz smallest size are 18 inch...


btw... noise is very subjective where the car NVH alone are the key player...

well, another thing to note is AS2 is GY's flagship UHP and price ranges of rm500-1.7k. (give/take)
while D5 is mid-range UHP and ranges from rm300-800+

so logically, AS2 should be better than D5

depends on the size

i'm on 195/55/15 so PS3 is RM288 for me while V12 is RM205 lol. Thats why they say the V12 is value for money king.

never tried the GSD3 so no comment but i tried the Goodyear F1 D5 and the PS3 trumps it in every way. Just my honest review

IMO the Goodyear F1 D5 is very very similar to the V12 in terms of grip in dry and wet. Only thing noticeable is the harder sidewalls compared to the V12, other than that pretty much the same.

price almost the same leh...

price almost same..not sure...
performance totally not...
michelin XM2 is intended for long lasting.fuel saving..fuel saving tires has less grip...so means not for performance that u can get from performance tires...
google la...u'll find ur answer...
right now i'm driving on XM2...this tire only for silent,decent dry n wet grip...decent..very decent...comfort tire..what do u expect it for?

see here..

XM2

PS3

see the big differences?if still think XM2 is on PS3 level,then u really need to learn more...

This post has been edited by dinwaja: Apr 20 2012, 07:45 PM

not necessary bro...

yeah...expensive not always means good or better...

Yeah the Goodyear F1 Directional 5 costs RM265 a piece but then IMO the performance is more or less the same with a Hankook Ventus V12 which costs RM205 a piece. The PS3 is on a totally different level though so to me the RM288 price is justified

ps3 more comfort than xm2 ???

r u referring to the links given?erm...that i can't comment..never use PS3....XM2 yes...but i know PS3 is way higher level than XM2...

my PS3 after almost 50k is quite noisy. in terms of dry and wet grip is absolute top notch though. but PS3 is considered as high performance tire.
Primacy LC is very quiet but grip and stability less since it's a comfort tire

CSC5 don't have 16" sizes. high performance tire

Goodyear Eagle F1 asymmetric 2; performance tire, i heard it's pretty quiet too.



This post has been edited by phas3r: Apr 20 2012, 08:12 PM